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Just Asking

Springboro, OH

#31566 Jun 20, 2014
sad but true wrote:
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Ask any junior or senior at SHS whos' taking advanced Spanish about fellow peers they may be aware of who have felt compelled to drop this foreign language after 2 to 3 years of concerted effort. Without a doubt they'll tell you the reason many students are (perennially) forced to bail toward another elective is because of subpar performance of a certain SJHS teacher. Letters / e-mails have been sent by a number of frustrated parents around the district to the superintendent, who most certainly has to be acutely aware of the situation.
The fact of the matter is, if an educator has achieved tenure, teacher's union contracts prohibit public school district administrators / BOE's to doing not a lot more than wrist-slapping (i.e. Molly gate)........unless any offense is heightened to the seriousness of theft, etc.
Doesn't the true professional value most the things worked hardest to get?

While recognition of a job well done can be a good thing, because it encourages working harder; but getting too easily may develop a sense of entitlement, whether or not it is earned
by "hardly working."

"That which we obtain too easily, we esteem too lightly."
-Thomas Paine
Just Asking

Springboro, OH

#31567 Jun 20, 2014
Could this be the One Future "Mission and Vision Statement" for Springboro Schools SEA, whose values and beliefs in education mean
"Getting too easily" while hardly working at all as others in the community, who so generously finance our tax-paying funded Springboro schools?

Can anybody spell: E-l-i-t-i-s-t E-n-t-i-t-l-e-m-e-n-t?

"The school board was freely stating its plans to move to a merit pay systems, bring health insurance in line with the private sector and have teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community."(from OEA website article submitted by Scott Maney, Springboro Education Association President, and Marla Bell, OEA/LRC)
Just Asking

Springboro, OH

#31569 Jun 21, 2014
sad but true wrote:
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Ask any junior or senior at SHS whos' taking advanced Spanish about fellow peers they may be aware of who have felt compelled to drop this foreign language after 2 to 3 years of concerted effort. Without a doubt they'll tell you the reason many students are (perennially) forced to bail toward another elective is because of subpar performance of a certain SJHS teacher. Letters / e-mails have been sent by a number of frustrated parents around the district to the superintendent, who most certainly has to be acutely aware of the situation.
The fact of the matter is, if an educator has achieved tenure, teacher's union contracts prohibit public school district administrators / BOE's to doing not a lot more than wrist-slapping (i.e. Molly gate)........unless any offense is heightened to the seriousness of theft, etc.
Who is this certain "elitist" SJHS teacher (who obviously feels exempt from working as hard as fellow community members to earn our daily bread)?

Our school superintendent's MVP invitation states "Public Schools Belong to the Community" but questions from the "Community" regarding important school district issues like policy making and budget/finance matters are dismissed by our school district leaders and board president, Charles Anderson.

If parents have sent emails to the school superintendent, then aren't these emails subject to public review? How can community members move through the "politically correct" process of requesting and obtaining these complaints to the superintendent? Todd Petrey has been heard saying that he believes the complaints of parents should go through the "levels of accountability" such as a parent should first talk to the classroom teacher; then if the complaint is not resolved to the parent's satisfaction regarding their child's experience in the classroom, the parent should take up the complaint with the building principal who is the Teacher's superior; then if the principal cannot hold teacher accountable, the parents' complaint should then be taken to the superintendent.

Have copies of these "frustrations" of subpar performance of SJHS teacher been sent by concerned parents to editors of local newspapers?

How can our community as a whole (made up of 67% of households with NO children enrolled in our Springboro Schools with a Union Teacher in Every Classroom) know that our school tax dollars are being wasted by our union classroom teachers, unless concerned parents inform all Springboro Stakeholders?
Just Asking

Springboro, OH

#31570 Jun 21, 2014
Reject Forced Unionism wrote:
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Only Three Little Words in Response to ONE future of union solidarity against Springboro taxpayers - NO NEW TAXES!
Wake Up Springboro!

Did you know that our school superintendent's greatest FEAR (false evidence appearing real) is being unable to pass a New School Levy Tax Increase, overtaxing all Springboro families, within the remaining three years of his 2012 five year contract as Superintendent of Springboro Schools?

It's True! Long before our union controlled board majority members, Charles Anderson/Ron Malone/David Stuckey were elected, our school superintendent and former school treasurer presented a false budget crisis to our Board Budget/Finance Committee meeting, during which time our school superintendent was hear saying that there are lots of superintendents out there looking for employment and that school superintendents who can't pass New Levies don't get hired.

Guess that proves that education priority in Springboro is all about being the biggest Fund Raiser; as the Ohio School Boards Association indoctrinates school board members and district leaders throughout our state of forced unionism politics; at the expense of local taxpaying homeowners.
Waste Watchers

Springboro, OH

#31571 Jun 21, 2014
Do any of our "powers that be" have the financial expertise and politically correct communication skills to find out how much of taxpayers money has been wasted on MSA approval votes in the board room doing good for the union?

How much money has been spent hiring FULL time Treasurer Terrah Floyd? OR is this a big secret denied by the Treasurer to Inquiring minds of Springboro taxpayers?

How much money has been spent on OSBA membership fees; conference fees/ travel/lodging expenses for New School Levy promotion indoctrination/union first propaganda?

How much money was spent on the new software for the Treasurer's update of the school districts five year forecast?

How many New Administrators has Todd Petrey ADDED to his Staff since our union controlled Board majority members came on board in January 2014?

What cost to taxpayers are the members of Terrah Floyd's Staff?
How many staff members does full time school treasurer,Terrah Floyd, need to help her implement her new state mandated software for school treasurers?

How many staff members are on board with Curriculum Director, Tammy Strittenberger, and at what bloated admininstrative cost to Springboro taxpayers?

Why is our school superintendent engaging in year-long meetings with hired outside facilitator, Jeff Stec, in search of Springboro stakeholders' values and beliefs in Education, costing taxpayers $12,000 plus;
while telling one Springboro parent volunteering input on District Policy Committee that there were enough parents already giving input, when in reality, Mr. Petrey has appointed only ONE parent for SURE activist, Stephanie Bindemann?

How can this ONE voice of One Future of Union Solidarity represent the Many Voices of Diversity in Values and Beliefs held among ALL Springboro citizens?

Why are Springboro taxpayers being indebted another $5 million energy contract to the allegedly legally troubled Tremco Company; whose employee is Todd Petrey's Appointee to Petrey's District Budget Committee?
sad but true

Springboro, OH

#31572 Jun 22, 2014
Just Asking wrote:
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Who is this certain "elitist" SJHS teacher (who obviously feels exempt from working as hard as fellow community members to earn our daily bread)?

Ask any parent of any Boro student that's taking, or has taken advanced Spanish @ SHS.
Just Asking

Springboro, OH

#31573 Jun 22, 2014
sad but true wrote:
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Ask any parent of any Boro student that's taking, or has taken advanced Spanish @ SHS.
Okay. Thank you.
Reject Forced Unionism

Springboro, OH

#31574 Jun 23, 2014
Boro parent wrote:
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This couldn't happen too soon here in Ohio. In addition to having many teachers who are truly excellent, Springboro schools employs quite a number of educators who collectively fall into the category "low performing / incompetent".
Many Boro students realize much less than their potential in their K-12 education because these low performing, incompetent teachers' jobs are union-protected.
Only Three Little Words in Response to K-12 "low performing, incompetent teachers in their union protected jobs: No New Taxes!

The best interests of unions and the best interests of students don't always align, and when they don't, the choice should be obvious - Put Kids First.

Based on the DDN website article by Jill Kelley, dated June 2012, it is obvious that Todd Petrey was hired as superintendent to protect our Children First highest academic priority while living within our community means of our children first budgeting Vision of Reform VS former superintendents' Status Quo employment protection for union classroom teachers.

"Petrey said he was offered the job June 1, the night after he and fellow finalist Richard Earley talked to the community in a public forum.....Petrey entered into further discussions with the board, but then wavered on whether to take the job."

"We started negotiating, and the board gave me time to think," said Petrey, who is married and has a 6-year-old son. "They gave me time to make sure this is what I wanted, and this was going to work for my family. The board is very crystal clear in what they expect from me."

"Anderson added: "They were tough negotiations, but it all worked out. We offered him a little bit more money to come."

"Petrey said he would earn $130,000 per year at Springboro, which is about a $30,000 raise compared to his salary and benefits at Lakota."

"That also is a higher salary than Lolli's, who made $105,000 in the position; the contract is for five years as opposed to three."

"Anderson said he feels Petrey will be able to bridge some of the recent conflict in the district, which was reflected in Lolli's resignation amid a difference in philosophy with the school board and the public outcry over the proposed reassignment of Springboro High School Principal Ron Malone."

"He's a very good communicator, and he has a history here at Springboro," Anderson said of Petrey. "If anyone can do it he can."

"Sometimes conflict creates the best plans," he said, "and that's what's going to happen in Springboro."

TODAY, under the leadership of retired educators Ron Malone and David Stuckey, and Board of Education President, Charles Anderson, Todd Petrey has made good his agenda to broaden the conflict in Springboro by throwing out of the Board room our Children First Budgeting Vision of Reform doing good for our Children; and has Renewed Status Quo Budget/Policy doing good for the union, to the detriment of our Children First best interest of highest academic priority and fiscal responsibility.

Under the leadership of Petrey/Stec Many Voices Project of Levy Promotion Campaign
(at taxpayers expense) Education in Springboro is all about More Money and More Power and ONE future of MSA/ Union Solidarity controlling both. Our union controlled school district leaders and union controlled BOE majority members do not need MORE money for Education in our children's classrooms; but each ONE of our union classroom teachers need to be held accountable for each one's low performance and incompetency.

Reject Forced Unionism in Springboro Schools = No New Taxes.
the inside track

Springboro, OH

#31575 Jun 23, 2014
Q) How was this morning's turnout at SHS?
A) Not a lot more than an orchestra of crickets.
Update

Springboro, OH

#31576 Jun 23, 2014
the inside track wrote:
Q) How was this morning's turnout at SHS?
A) Not a lot more than an orchestra of crickets.
These so called "Many Voices Meetings" are a joke and a waste of time and money! They are nothing but a way for Petrey to do a PR on his image and for Babb to be on a committee!
Boro Housewives

Springboro, OH

#31579 Jun 24, 2014
Petrey's PR image is going down the drain for SURE with his potty mouthed Springboro Mom, Mrs. B, chosen as the only ONE voice that he is willing to listen to regarding important school district policy issues, which could possibly financially and academically negatively affect ALL Springboro families, no matter diversity of individual religious choices, politics, nor basic values in education..........And that's a Stinking Petrey PR image for SURE.
De Ja Vu

Springboro, OH

#31580 Jun 24, 2014
Springboro Resident wrote:
Unfortunately the admin environment has not welcomed parent's concerns about the teachers. The Board was never parent-friendly. It was always a "we know better than you what is best for your child" attitude. Maybe now it will change with our new board members.
Having spoken with a parents about the bad teachers I find that they are scared to complain during the school year because of their student being singled out, embarrassed etc. by the teacher. This happens. Then - when the year is over the parents are just glad to be done and rarely will go back and say anything. It is a small network and everything gets repeated. Parents who complain get marked as "pains". Why do you think these awful teachers are still teaching?
I find that I MUST speak up about this comment. My 2 children who graduated from Springboro Schools are now both in grad school...only AFTER they left Springboro did they blossom and become leaders... Our family had a terrible time with some teachers and the High School Principle...and YES, the children are retaliated against when parents have concerns or problems with teachers...if their ever is a platform to testify and show documents against the bad teachers... sign me up! There are many like me and we vote NO! til you clean up the teaching staff!
Above comments are from this Topix blog dated December 2011!

Why are these same union classroom teachers and union controlled staff members/board members allowed to bully our students out of the quality education they deserve and for which taxpayers are generously financially supporting, year after year .....

Why are parents in this school district afraid of speaking out lest their children suffer relentlessly at the hands of the SEA bullies?
truth to power

Springboro, OH

#31581 Jun 24, 2014
De Ja Vu wrote:
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Above comments are from this Topix blog dated December 2011!
Why are these same union classroom teachers and union controlled staff members/board members allowed to bully our students out of the quality education they deserve and for which taxpayers are generously financially supporting, year after year .....
Why are parents in this school district afraid of speaking out lest their children suffer relentlessly at the hands of the SEA bullies?
How has this atmosphere changed since December 2011? A very important line has been crossed...

What used to be subtle pro-union manipulation of students (and their parents) 5-6 years ago has since morphed into a well-organized no-holds-barred campaign to recruit high school & jr high students in order to indoctrinate their minds to agree with agendas that fall in-line with the philosophy of the Springboro Education Association.
truth to power

Springboro, OH

#31582 Jun 24, 2014
De Ja Vu wrote:
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Why are parents in this school district afraid of speaking out lest their children suffer relentlessly at the hands of the SEA bullies?
Very effectively, you answered your own question.

If it's your wish for your kid to have a fair, equal shake in the classroom. don't dare stand up in front of the BOE and rub against the union's grain.
If you want your kid to have a realistic shot at making varsity, don't dare stand up in front of the BOE and rub against the union's grain.
If it's your wish for your Boro graduate to accumulate teachers as references, don't dare stand up in front of the BOE and rub against the union's grain.
Community Engagement

Springboro, OH

#31583 Jun 25, 2014
truth to power wrote:
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How has this atmosphere changed since December 2011? A very important line has been crossed...
What used to be subtle pro-union manipulation of students (and their parents) 5-6 years ago has since morphed into a well-organized no-holds-barred campaign to recruit high school & jr high students in order to indoctrinate their minds to agree with agendas that fall in-line with the philosophy of the Springboro Education Association.
Now that we know the Ohio Education Association Encourages Teachers to Indoctrinate Ohio's Kids, as dictated to teachers in their monthly newsletter, how do we gain access to this union propaganda that dictates "it's essential that they not only be teacher unionists but teachers of unionism who need to create a generation of students who support teachers and the movements of teachers for their rights?" Isn't the goal of our State Department of Education and our State Elected Officials to "train up" a generation of tomorrow's leaders in Ohio's Politics of Forced Unionization System that Rewards Maintaining the Status Quo?

Wasn't the goal of Principal Ron's Kids March 2012 community wide protest AGAINST the Board Authority of Children First Budgeting philosophy VS the philosophy of the Union First Springboro Education Association to show proof that Scott Maney and Ron Malone had successfully indoctrinated our SHS students, violating their own student code of behavior in disrespectfully taunting BOE elected officials that they would vote revenge against the Children First Vision of Reform philosophy; AND with the help of union classroom teacher and student mentor, Molly Wray, didnít these Boro Alumni help throw out our school districts
Children First Vision of Reform, and successfully re-instated Malone's status quo failed practices of the past?

What we need now in Springboro is not more "dialogue" preaching the Springboro Education Association union first philosophy to their own choir (as is happening in the $12,000 Many Voices Project community meetings during the next year) but what the Boro needs now is a community wide debate with open discussion among all Springboro stakeholders on the future of our schools and community.

Do we have a future or a funeral for Springboro schools as we Move Forward under the union controlled leadership of Charles Anderson and Ron Malone?

Don't we need to re-instate our Children First philosophy board members as our Board of Education leaders, putting the Re-Emphasis back on highest academic achievement priority and fiscal responsibility, living within the means of our children first budgeting five year forecast, with no new taxes needed for a quality 21st century classroom education for All students?
Community Engagement

Springboro, OH

#31584 Jun 25, 2014
......In theory, school board associations exist to strengthen public education. One of the ways they do that is by helping school officials stay on top of ever-changing education laws. For a fee, school board associations provide districts with sample policies that help school boards stay in full compliance with the law.
Thatís pretty benign and noncontroversial........

But critics say school board associations too often veer outside of their narrow, nonpartisan mission and serve as mouthpieces for the teacher unions...... And that's what Todd Petrey's hired facilitator Jeff Stec's Citizens for Civic Renewal $12,000 Contract (at taxpayer expense) looks like....OSBA indoctrinated Todd Petrey's Big Picture of Education in Springboro Schools is just a Big Bully Mouth Piece for the Springboro Education Association, and that's for SURE!
The Pied Piper of Boro

Springboro, OH

#31585 Jun 25, 2014
Community Engagement wrote:
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Now that we know the Ohio Education Association Encourages Teachers to Indoctrinate Ohio's Kids, as dictated to teachers in their monthly newsletter, how do we gain access to this union propaganda that dictates "it's essential that they not only be teacher unionists but teachers of unionism who need to create a generation of students who support teachers and the movements of teachers for their rights?" Isn't the goal of our State Department of Education and our State Elected Officials to "train up" a generation of tomorrow's leaders in Ohio's Politics of Forced Unionization System that Rewards Maintaining the Status Quo?
Wasn't the goal of Principal Ron's Kids March 2012 community wide protest AGAINST the Board Authority of Children First Budgeting philosophy VS the philosophy of the Union First Springboro Education Association to show proof that Scott Maney and Ron Malone had successfully indoctrinated our SHS students, violating their own student code of behavior in disrespectfully taunting BOE elected officials that they would vote revenge against the Children First Vision of Reform philosophy; AND with the help of union classroom teacher and student mentor, Molly Wray, didnít these Boro Alumni help throw out our school districts
Children First Vision of Reform, and successfully re-instated Malone's status quo failed practices of the past?
How did a former principal manage to do this?
It was done by utilizing a concept that's close to the heart of virtually every 16, 17 and 18 year old high school student.......popularity.
It was done by knowingly taking advantage of student friendships in order to further a political campaign.
Ironically, last fall's political campaign has already resulted in various amounts of damage to younger siblings of students /alumni. These voting age SHS students and recent alumni were effectively indoctrinated by pro-union types. No need to name names. We all know who they are. These voting age SHS students / recent alumni were coerced and manipulated into believing they not only should support the liberals, but they should also recruit their peers to do so, as well.
Lurker

Springboro, OH

#31586 Jun 25, 2014
Member of Board of Education
SPRINGBORO COMMUNITY CITY SCHOOL DIST
(Vote for not more than ) 3
(WITH 30 OF 30 PRECINCTS COUNTED)
Charles Anderson ........ 6,151 27.88
Ronald L. Malone ........ 5,734 25.99
David Stuckey ......... 5,450 24.70
David Bitner ......... 2,401 10.88
Kolton Vaughn ......... 2,329 10.56
Total ......... 22,065

Just how many if these young voters are there in Springboro? Seems like the whole community spoke!
What Is In A Name

Springboro, OH

#31587 Jun 26, 2014
The Pied Piper of Boro wrote:
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How did a former principal manage to do this?
It was done by utilizing a concept that's close to the heart of virtually every 16, 17 and 18 year old high school student.......popularity.
It was done by knowingly taking advantage of student friendships in order to further a political campaign.
Ironically, last fall's political campaign has already resulted in various amounts of damage to younger siblings of students /alumni. These voting age SHS students and recent alumni were effectively indoctrinated by pro-union types. No need to name names. We all know who they are. These voting age SHS students / recent alumni were coerced and manipulated into believing they not only should support the liberals, but they should also recruit their peers to do so, as well.
R U SURE there's "No Need to Name Names?"

It was done knowingly taking advantage of student friendships in order to further a political campaign.....

"Breach of Ohio and FURPA law by Springboro Teacher"
As you are aware, Ms. Wray unfortunately decided to use protected student information under RC 3319.31 and FERPA 20USC 1232g for personal use.
What Is In A Name

Springboro, OH

#31588 Jun 26, 2014
Charles Anderson did get the largest number of votes in the MSA November 2013 school board election, based on the endorsement of Educate Springboro, which is a Name that community wide Voters
trusted to do what's right for our school children and community.

Educate Springboro got it Right; it is Charles Anderson who chooses to name our K-12 Springboro students "The Big Losers" under his leadership of the Springboro Education Association union controlled
Board of Education.

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