Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Boro Funnies

Springboro, OH

#31520 Jun 13, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Bully bully bully.
Grow up, are you still in 2nd grade? Have you never in your life learned how to deal with people who put forth a better program than you do?
How about giving credit where credit is due?
The union out messaged you, plain and simple. Was the union right, hardly, but the point is more people got their message and their spin than got ours.
Bully? I don't think so.
Quit whining, it makes you seem small and inconsequential.
If you can't stand the heat get out of the fire.
That's Funny! But Seriously,

I disagree that the "union out messaged you."

Truth Be Told, "the union OUT-WHINED you.

Now, plain and simple, I'm not a two year old; but as a mature grown up, I do know that nothing wears down a grown-ups resolve and patience like the whining of a two year old child.

I saw that put in practice as a two year old threw a hissy fit on the grown up caretaker at the grocery store; the child loudly demanded candy from the many varieties stacked near the check out line; and the embarrassed grown-up's will to keep reasoning was worn down.
Proof for SURE that the Springboro Parent acting like a "two year old" who "WHINES" the loudest and the "LONGEST" wears down the resolve of the school superintendent to do what's right for our school children and community.

Kinda like what's happening in Springboro School District with insanely popular influential "grown-ups" whining like two year olds for more Respect for teachers; translated "Give us more money or we will walk out of our union indoctrinated classrooms and bring harm to your child's future education and loss of value to the homes of Springboro families." But, where's the funny in that?
Oh Snap

Springboro, OH

#31521 Jun 13, 2014
finding religion wrote:
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Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if a lot more time is used to positivively vocalize these types of points in the board room vs. the practice of HURLing virtually non-stop, nonsensical, redundant, aimless internet political propoganda.
It Happened!

finding religion? Not In Our Springboro Students Classrooms With A Union Teacher!

Haven't you heard our Springboro Education Association officer Sarah Thornbury testify in the board room that she is a Christian and that Christians should keep their religion behind the closed doors of their churches?

Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if All our Professional Educators modeled professional behavior with mutual respect for all Springboro Citizens, modeling Good Citizenship for All school children and community residents, regardless of the individual's Beliefs in Values of Education, Religion, or Politics?
Insanely Hypocritical

Springboro, OH

#31522 Jun 13, 2014
finding religion wrote:
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Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if a lot more time is used to positivively vocalize these types of points in the board room vs. the practice of HURLing virtually non-stop, nonsensical, redundant, aimless internet political propoganda.
..........finding religion?

Wasn't that lost cause of "finding religion" in the board room disrespectfully hurled at Springboro Board of Education members by one of our own community Pastors, preaching that it would be a sin for Troy Holtrey not to be hired for open employment position, even though Mr. Holtrey had not even applied for the position? here's SEA officer Sarah T when you need her, hurling aimless union political testimonies that Christians (including pastors) should keep their religion in their church? What a waste of time role modeling such disrespect for Authority before our school children and community.

lol...... Where in the world is that SEA officer, Sarah T, when you need her to preach to the Union Choir Masters of Propaganda, that they need to keep their religion at church?
There is no place in our Board Room for local pastors to vocalize this negative role modeling before our school children and community members.
simple think simple mind

Springboro, OH

#31523 Jun 13, 2014
Oh Snap wrote:
<quoted text>
It Happened!
finding religion? Not In Our Springboro Students Classrooms With A Union Teacher!
Haven't you heard our Springboro Education Association officer Sarah Thornbury testify in the board room that she is a Christian and that Christians should keep their religion behind the closed doors of their churches?
Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if All our Professional Educators modeled professional behavior with mutual respect for all Springboro Citizens, modeling Good Citizenship for All school children and community residents, regardless of the individual's Beliefs in Values of Education, Religion, or Politics?
Perhaps if you'd shut down that modem & spend a few weeks this summer attaining the G.E.D you've been putting off for years. you'd finallly attain the capacity to grasp the word "religion" from EVERY definition and context.
Narrow Mind

Springboro, OH

#31524 Jun 13, 2014
simple think simple mind wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps if you'd shut down that modem & spend a few weeks this summer attaining the G.E.D you've been putting off for years. you'd finallly attain the capacity to grasp the word "religion" from EVERY definition and context.
Perhaps if you'd broaden your narrow mind and attain the capacity to grasp the critical thinking skills needed, you'd finally attain the capacity to grasp the truth about your own mindset of having no new ideas at all --and stop just rearranging your prejudices against others who independently think differently from you.
Amazing Grace

Springboro, OH

#31525 Jun 14, 2014
finding religion wrote:
<quoted text>
Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if a lot more time is used to positivively vocalize these types of points in the board room vs. the practice of HURLing virtually non-stop, nonsensical, redundant, aimless internet political propoganda.
who=finding religion??

It is not Religion that is lost in Springboro, but our Students in public schools with a union classroom teacher who have lost the Amazing opportunity of being taught the original intent of our Great Founding Fathers Constitutional Freedoms, grounded in the Values of the Greatest Story Ever Told throughout the Ages, The Holy Bible. May God Bless America!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31526 Jun 14, 2014
finding religion wrote:
<quoted text>
Just imagine the potential positive differences for our kids that could be achieved if a lot more time is used to positivively vocalize these types of points in the board room vs. the practice of HURLing virtually non-stop, nonsensical, redundant, aimless internet political propoganda.
I find Mrs. Hurley's points on topic and logically presented. It is only those to whom she poses these questions that find them annoying and uncomfortable. This feeling on the part of the recipients is most likely caused by knowing she is right in her analysis and they have nothing with which to refute her point of contention.

Bravo Mrs. Hurley for your intestinal fortitude and persistent manner, if they don't answer the question the first time, you need to ask it again. If they don't answer the question fully, there is always the follow up question to clarify the issue.

The truth is neither political or propaganda, it is simply an honest statement of fact.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31527 Jun 14, 2014
Got Respect wrote:
<quoted text>
Your One Voice (One Vote) is Recognized.
But why no respect for others who see differently?
Why do you believe your ONE VOICE is so big in getting out YOUR message, that the ONE VOICE of others "seems small and inconsequential" in comparison?
The perpetual whiners of the world always seem small and inconsequential.
finding religion

Springboro, OH

#31528 Jun 14, 2014
Amazing Grace wrote:
<quoted text>
who=finding religion??
It is not Religion that is lost in Springboro, but our Students in public schools with a union classroom teacher who have lost the Amazing opportunity of being taught the original intent of our Great Founding Fathers Constitutional Freedoms, grounded in the Values of the Greatest Story Ever Told throughout the Ages, The Holy Bible. May God Bless America!
America is s a nation organized by the Founding Fathers who recognized a need for religious freedom. "Religious freedom" means that each and every Americans, under the U.S. Constitution, has freedom to worship any way they choose. Or Americans can make a conscoius decision to not worship at all, and not be legally prosecuted. They can choose to be Christian. They can choose to be Jewish. They choose to be Muslim. They can choose to be Buddhist. They can choose to be Hindu. They can choose to be atheist, or to not affilate themselves with organized religion, whatsoever. All of this has been Constitutionally guaranteed for over 230 years.

What's your problem LH? Do you believe all other Americans should be worshiping the same as you? LOL! If they were still alive today, the Founding Fathers would be laughing their a&&es off at your myopic, selfish bigotry!

How Sweet The Sound

Springboro, OH

#31529 Jun 14, 2014
Amazing Grace wrote:
<quoted text>
who=finding religion??
It is not Religion that is lost in Springboro, but our Students in public schools with a union classroom teacher who have lost the Amazing opportunity of being taught the original intent of our Great Founding Fathers Constitutional Freedoms, grounded in the Values of the Greatest Story Ever Told throughout the Ages, The Holy Bible. May God Bless America!
June 14 is Flag Day and a Celebration of Dual Citizenship (earthly citizenship and Heavenly Citizenship) for all those Believers in God's Gift of Salvation through His Son, Jesus Christ.
The Christian Citizen's Values in Education are deeply rooted in "Teaching for Eternity" and we are equally yoked with all Good Citizens of our Springboro Education Association's
ONE community of Union Solidarity. Christian Citizens take different paths from our ONE community of Union Solidarity where K-12 public school education is all about money and power and who gets to control both.

We all stand together as ONE COMMUNITY pledging allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, but Thanks to Our Founding Fathers Godly Wisdom and Constitutional Rights, Christian Citizens can also pray silently to Our Heavenly Father our pledge of Christian citizenship that we were taught at home and at the church of our choice.....
I pledge allegiance to the Christian Flag, and to the Savior for which it stands........!

How Sweet The Sound of Children's Voices reciting the Pledge to the Christian Flag, along with the The Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag of the Unitied States of America!
Springboro Schools are now closed for Summer Vacation and that means that our community churches will once again be opening its doors for children to attend Vacation Bible School! Parents are encouraged to get involved in joining your churches efforts to reach out to all children in our community, investing in the lives and future of our children and the future leaders of our Great Nation, The United States of American! May God Bless America and May God Bless Us All!
The More You Know

Springboro, OH

#31531 Jun 14, 2014
Our Need to Know More wrote:
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What's in a name? No matter who the SEA president is at this time, the game of Big Bully Union Solidarity Against Our Children First is the same.
The battle plan strategy of the Springboro Education Association for SURE that is outlined by Scott Maney on the Ohio E&A website is still Moving Forward under the marching orders of School BoardPresident Charles Anderson and Vice PresidentRon Malone. This website article This Is What Solidarity Looks Like clearly shows that the Teachers Union set out to silence the Voices of Three Board Of Education elected officials by personally demonizing each one's character in efforts to discredit, distort and detract attention away from the AMAZINGLY AWESOME progress being made, doing what's right for our school children and community.
Scott Maney and Ron Malone led the Union Youth Group in a community wide PROTEST against these newly elected board members in March 2012; with students, parents and Teachers lining up in the SHS auditorium in public meeting demanding that these board members leave "education" to the experts. Scott Maney and Ron Malone refused to recognize the constitutional rights of three elected officials to render their rightful service to Springboro Families and community members, with priority of highest individual academic achievement for all students first and fiscal responsibility.
David Baker is no longer Superintendent in our school district, EXCEPT by another name,
Todd Petrey.
So, we all need to know Who is current SEA President, who will be leading attacks against Springboro families demanding MORE next year in teacher contract negotiating than ever before; OR emotionally blackmailing of threats to walk out on Strike against our children's classroom, IF their bully demands are not met in full?
Did you know that our Springboro School Superintendent, Todd Petrey, extends his invitation to attend Jeff Stec's School-Community Meetings in notices all over town, stating the "logo" One Boro Community- Many Voices- One Future?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's invitation states that "there are many voices in our school district. And we want to hear yours?" And that Todd Petrey is charging Springboro Taxpayers $12,000 to "hear" our voice in his levy promotion campaign; but that Todd Petrey refused to listen to the "many voices in our school district" regarding important policy issues, but only chooses ONE voice for SURE as all the help needed from parents on his Union controlled District Policy Committee?

Did you know that this highest paid ever school employee, Todd Petrey,($130,000/yr for five year employment contract) who is financially supported by All Springboro Taxpaying Families
recently in public board meeting told a Volunteer Parent asking to serve on the District Policy Committee that he had enough input from parents (other than ONE Springboro Mom for SURE who is the ONLY community member appointed to Petrey's Policy Committee).
Can you imagine a school superintendent who is hired to manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget to the best interest of all our students future education telling a Springboro Parent that he only wants to hear from Stephanie Bindemann regarding important Policy Committee issues that affect all our school children and community members?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's consideration of the Big Picture about Education's role in our community is what ONE Future of Union Solidarity looks like? Read the proof on the ohea.org website that our Springboro Education Association is planning ONE future for our school children and community that FREES the union classroom teacher from accountability of performance based on merit pay system; that brings health insurance in line with the private sector; and that requires that teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community?

Just Read It and Believe It!
www.ohea.org/this-is-whatsolidarity-looks-lik...
a coward

Springboro, OH

#31532 Jun 14, 2014
Well, at least you're consistent. You're the same on the 'net as the board room.
Professional Whiners

Springboro, OH

#31533 Jun 14, 2014
a coward wrote:
Well, at least you're consistent. You're the same on the 'net as the board room.
@who="a coward" - Never mind the whiners on this topix blog who are trained professionals in the expertise of "Whining" attacks of Ridicule, hoping to destroy the Truths of important issues with their FEAR (false evidence appearing real) of losing power and control over others.

This professional whining shown in the above post is consistent with Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. One of the most effective tactics of the professional whiners is described in the book as follows:

Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
In conflict tactics there are certain rules that should be regarded as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and frozen....

..any target can always say, "Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?" When you freeze the target, you disregard these rational but distracting arguments... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the others come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target.....
(Remember - a good tactic is one your people enjoy! And oh how our Springboro professional educators do enjoy huddling together in ridicule against Springboro Familes! Talk about biting the hand hand that feeds you!.... And at Taxpayers Expense!)
"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on ONE side and all the devils on the OTHER." - pages 127-134

The Springboro Education Association members/union activists for SURE are Masters of Professional Whiners, well versed on many of these harmful Rules for Radicals tactics practiced in efforts to wear down the will of their opposition.
People in this community should read the book and Believe in themselves to stand strong doing what's right, in spite of these silly politics of personal destruction coming from our professional whiners on the left.

Education is all about power and money and who has control of both.
Remember Voters - Only YOU have the Power to say NO to the SEA's professional whiners begging for New Taxes "for the kids"........ coming soon to the Boro!
The More You Know

Springboro, OH

#31534 Jun 14, 2014
Did you know that our Springboro School Superintendent, Todd Petrey, extends his invitation to attend Jeff Stec's School-Community Meetings in notices all over town, stating the "logo" One Boro Community- Many Voices- One Future?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's invitation states that "there are many voices in our school district. And we want to hear yours?" And that Todd Petrey is charging Springboro Taxpayers $12,000 to "hear" our voice in his levy promotion campaign; but that Todd Petrey refused to listen to the "many voices in our school district" regarding important policy issues, but only chooses ONE voice for SURE as all the help needed from parents on his Union controlled District Policy Committee?

Did you know that this highest paid ever school employee, Todd Petrey,($130,000/yr for five year employment contract) who is financially supported by All Springboro Taxpaying Families
recently in public board meeting told a Volunteer Parent asking to serve on the District Policy Committee that he had enough input from parents (other than ONE Springboro Mom for SURE who is the ONLY community member appointed to Petrey's Policy Committee).
Can you imagine a school superintendent who is hired to manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget to the best interest of all our students future education telling a Springboro Parent that he only wants to hear from Stephanie Bindemann regarding important Policy Committee issues that affect all our school children and community members?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's consideration of the Big Picture about Education's role in our community is what ONE Future of Union Solidarity looks like? Read the proof on the ohea.org website that our Springboro Education Association is planning ONE future for our school children and community that FREES the union classroom teacher from accountability of performance based on merit pay system; that brings health insurance in line with the private sector; and that requires that teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community?

Just Read It and Believe It!
www.ohea.org/this-is-whatsolidarity-looks-lik ...
Monday Monday

Springboro, OH

#31535 Jun 16, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Did you know that our Springboro School Superintendent, Todd Petrey, extends his invitation to attend Jeff Stec's School-Community Meetings in notices all over town, stating the "logo" One Boro Community- Many Voices- One Future?
Did you know that Todd Petrey's invitation states that "there are many voices in our school district. And we want to hear yours?" And that Todd Petrey is charging Springboro Taxpayers $12,000 to "hear" our voice in his levy promotion campaign; but that Todd Petrey refused to listen to the "many voices in our school district" regarding important policy issues, but only chooses ONE voice for SURE as all the help needed from parents on his Union controlled District Policy Committee?
Did you know that this highest paid ever school employee, Todd Petrey,($130,000/yr for five year employment contract) who is financially supported by All Springboro Taxpaying Families
recently in public board meeting told a Volunteer Parent asking to serve on the District Policy Committee that he had enough input from parents (other than ONE Springboro Mom for SURE who is the ONLY community member appointed to Petrey's Policy Committee).
Can you imagine a school superintendent who is hired to manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget to the best interest of all our students future education telling a Springboro Parent that he only wants to hear from Stephanie Bindemann regarding important Policy Committee issues that affect all our school children and community members?
Did you know that Todd Petrey's consideration of the Big Picture about Education's role in our community is what ONE Future of Union Solidarity looks like? Read the proof on the ohea.org website that our Springboro Education Association is planning ONE future for our school children and community that FREES the union classroom teacher from accountability of performance based on merit pay system; that brings health insurance in line with the private sector; and that requires that teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community?
Just Read It and Believe It!
www.ohea.org/this-is-whatsolidarity-looks-lik ...
Did you know that you're a certifiable obseessive-compusive lunatic?

(- ;
Did You Know

Springboro, OH

#31536 Jun 16, 2014
Did you know that former SEA president, Scott Maney, who has been a Springboro Schools Social Studies union classroom teacher is rumored around the Boro as having said in the DDN that his Topix blog is like a cancer in Springboro?
Monday Morning post is proof that at least for once during Scott Maney's employment in Springboro schools that he actually told the truth. What a Rotten comment for Monday Morning to make on this Topix blog! Bet that professional opinion attacking Springboro families was based on the insanely rude diagnosis o retired educators/board members Ron Malone and David Stuckey.
The More You Know

Springboro, OH

#31537 Jun 16, 2014
Did you know that our Springboro School Superintendent, Todd Petrey, extends his invitation to attend Jeff Stec's School-Community Meetings in notices all over town, stating the "logo" One Boro Community- Many Voices- One Future?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's invitation states that "there are many voices in our school district. And we want to hear yours?" And that Todd Petrey is charging Springboro Taxpayers $12,000 to "hear" our voice in his levy promotion campaign; but that Todd Petrey refused to listen to the "many voices in our school district" regarding important policy issues, but only chooses ONE voice for SURE as all the help needed from parents on his Union controlled District Policy Committee?

Did you know that this highest paid ever school employee, Todd Petrey,($130,000/yr for five year employment contract) who is financially supported by All Springboro Taxpaying Families
recently in public board meeting told a Volunteer Parent asking to serve on the District Policy Committee that he had enough input from parents (other than ONE Springboro Mom for SURE who is the ONLY community member appointed to Petrey's Policy Committee).
Can you imagine a school superintendent who is hired to manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget to the best interest of all our students future education telling a Springboro Parent that he only wants to hear from Stephanie Bindemann regarding important Policy Committee issues that affect all our school children and community members?

Did you know that Todd Petrey's consideration of the Big Picture about Education's role in our community is what ONE Future of Union Solidarity looks like? Read the proof on the ohea.org website that our Springboro Education Association is planning ONE future for our school children and community that FREES the union classroom teacher from accountability of performance based on merit pay system; that brings health insurance in line with the private sector; and that requires that teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community?

Just Read It and Believe It!
www.ohea.org/this-is-whatsolidarity-looks-lik ...
the truth hurts doesnt it

Springboro, OH

#31538 Jun 16, 2014
Did You Know wrote:
Bet that professional opinion attacking Springboro families was based on the insanely rude diagnosis o retired educators/board members Ron Malone and David Stuckey.
Bet you're wrong...(as per usual).
the truth hurts doesnt it

Springboro, OH

#31539 Jun 16, 2014
Did You Know wrote:
Bet that professional opinion attacking Springboro families was based on the insanely rude diagnosis o retired educators/board members Ron Malone and David Stuckey.
Are you making a claim that your opinions parallel the opinions of ALL Springboro families?
Professional Whiners

Springboro, OH

#31541 Jun 16, 2014
Professional Whiners wrote:
<quoted text>
@who="a coward" - Never mind the whiners on this topix blog who are trained professionals in the expertise of "Whining" attacks of Ridicule, hoping to destroy the Truths of important issues with their FEAR (false evidence appearing real) of losing power and control over others.
This professional whining shown in the above post is consistent with Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals. One of the most effective tactics of the professional whiners is described in the book as follows:
Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.
In conflict tactics there are certain rules that should be regarded as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and frozen....
..any target can always say, "Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?" When you freeze the target, you disregard these rational but distracting arguments... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the others come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target.....
(Remember - a good tactic is one your people enjoy! And oh how our Springboro professional educators do enjoy huddling together in ridicule against Springboro Familes! Talk about biting the hand hand that feeds you!.... And at Taxpayers Expense!)
"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on ONE side and all the devils on the OTHER." - pages 127-134
The Springboro Education Association members/union activists for SURE are Masters of Professional Whiners, well versed on many of these harmful Rules for Radicals tactics practiced in efforts to wear down the will of their opposition.
People in this community should read the book and Believe in themselves to stand strong doing what's right, in spite of these silly politics of personal destruction coming from our professional whiners on the left.
Education is all about power and money and who has control of both.
Remember Voters - Only YOU have the Power to say NO to the SEA's professional whiners begging for New Taxes "for the kids"........ coming soon to the Boro!
More Professional Whiners on this topix board -- Welcome Monday Monday and The Truth Hurts Doesn't It!

Unlike our school superintendent who is charging Springboro Families $12,000 for Jeff Stec to "hear our voices" ....... All Voices are Welcome to chime in on the Topix discussion blog!

No ONE Solidarity for SURE on this Topix discussion blog, unlike our school superintendent's District Policy Committee where Mr. Petrey listens ONLY to ONE voice for SURE.

Does Mr. Petrey actually believe that the ONE voice for SURE activist, Stephanie Bindemann, really represents ALL Springboro Families???

Why the preferred status of the school superintendent to hearing only ONE for SURE
voice?

OK..... let the Whining begin! This should be Fun!

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