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Liberal Tolerance

Maineville, OH

#31468 Jun 5, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Oh Ye of little faith and apparent inability to note the world in which you live in daily. Our entire culture and our institutions stem ultimately from the Judeo Christian concepts codified and brought to life over 2000 years ago. Building upon the foundations of ancient Greece and Rome and through the age of Enlightenment our common culture is one of Western Civilization predicated primarily upon the teachings of the church.
Not even Joseph Stalin or Mao have been able to stamp out that light, no matter how nefariously hard they tried.
The left and the progressives speak mightily of tolerance and inclusion, but only if you will join them in lockstep intolerance for those who are not "true" believers in the cause of the left..
You are free to believe however you like. That's what is great about our country. What it really amounts to is being fair. Unlike private schools, public school districts are bound by the Constitution, which forces them into a delicate balance. Board members and school administrators are required to allow personal acts of religious faith but to simultaneously avoid any appearance that religion (or any particular religion) enjoys special status.

The duty to uphold the Constitution is a fundamental difference between public schools and religious schools. While government-sponsored schools must stay neutral (often called separation of church and state), private schools are not similarly bound. The contrast is stark: parochial and religious schools openly inculcate religion while teaching reading, writing, and mathematics.

A few things are clear under the Constitution, however. These absolutes are what distinguish public schools from their private or religious K–12 counterparts. The bright lines in the Establishment and Free Exercise Clauses strike a peace accord that allows believers and skeptics to peacefully co-exist.

Establishment Clause

School districts may not endorse (or appear to be endorsing) religious activities in school sponsored activities. What that means in practice is that schools may not give special treatment to believers nor special prominence to activities that highlight religion. The Establishment Clause, in other words, is the Constitutional device that prevents public entities like schools from taking sides with the faith-based community. The need for the divide harkens back to the founding of this country, when the potential for religious strife was a real threat to the unity of a new nation.

Free Exercise Clause
• Students can pray in school, if they are not disrupting normal activities.
• Students can be released from class for ritual prayer or leave school early for religious instruction.
• School staff and students can wear religious symbols. Staff items cannot contain proselytizing messages, like “I love Allah and you should too.”
• A teacher may not refuse to teach a portion of the approved curriculum based on religious grounds.
• The Free Exercise Clause is commonly combined with the First Amendment Free Speech Clause to combat “viewpoint discrimination.” Religious speech cannot be treated differently simply because of the subject.

Some summarize the twin Constitutional directives this way: Freedom of religion and Freedom from religion. In recent years that duality has been a magnet for lawsuits. For instance, from 1990 to 2001 the National School Boards Association wrote friend-of-the court briefs in 21 religion cases heard by the U.S. Supreme Court or federal appeals courts.

Scholars say the United States is home to more than 2,000 religions and about 400,000 churches, synagogues, and mosques. The public’s schools are a natural battleground, supporting 90 percent of all school-aged children nationwide. The Constitution ensures that every student who receives public schooling has the opportunity to express his or her sincerely held belief, or to be free from the unwelcome pressure to believe at all.
Left Leaning

Maineville, OH

#31469 Jun 5, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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I duly recognize that fact and feel a duty to point out the obvious about the pro union, social justice, and progressive crowd. In the warm and fuzzy world of semantic euphemisms these group are masters at deflecting attention away from their real issues onto phoney ones..
Doug, you need a warm and fuzzy hug!!
Solid Rock Standing Firm

Springboro, OH

#31474 Jun 5, 2014
It's ok to be on the Left Leaning in the Right Direction for our school children and community; but it's just not ok to lean so far to the left that you'll fall for this Petrey/Stec promotion of SEA Solidarity Anti-Children First power grab for the Union first agenda. That's neither warm nor fuzzy, but just cold-hearted and in the wrong direction for a brighter Boro future for our school children and Springboro families throughout our community.

We are a diverse community of many differences in politics and religion and values in education for our children; And we must keep on keeping on......demanding that all our citizens have respect granted from our Springboro Education Association members/union activists for SURE, and that No Not One Conservative is left behind, as we work together, in diversity, in a fair and balanced Win-Win way.

There is NO win-win way in the Petrey/Stec Mission of Tunnel Vision of One future for one community of Union Solidarity! That's what loss of individual constitutional rights and freedom of choice looks like....
and that's not right for our Students First today and our future leaders of America!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31475 Jun 6, 2014
Left Leaning wrote:
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Doug, you need a warm and fuzzy hug!!
That is what I keep telling my wife.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31479 Jun 6, 2014
The question becomes, where did your child fall?

In the Class of 2018 the state claimed 93% of the children were PROFICIENT or better in the 8th grade.

PROFICIENT means the children scored above 40% on the math test.

According to Mr. Malone:

40% is Failing.

50% is Failing

60% is Failing

The reality is the Class of 2018 had just 23% that were able to answer 3 out of 4 questions correctly on a basic math test.

What higher level classes will the vast majority of the class of 2018 be prepared to take in Math at the high school?

What happened to that 40% of our kids who are said to be gifted in each class?

Is it all the kids' fault?

The parents?

Whose?
a call for balance

Springboro, OH

#31480 Jun 6, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
The question becomes, where did your child fall?
In the Class of 2018 the state claimed 93% of the children were PROFICIENT or better in the 8th grade.
PROFICIENT means the children scored above 40% on the math test.
According to Mr. Malone:
40% is Failing.
50% is Failing
60% is Failing
The reality is the Class of 2018 had just 23% that were able to answer 3 out of 4 questions correctly on a basic math test.
What higher level classes will the vast majority of the class of 2018 be prepared to take in Math at the high school?
What happened to that 40% of our kids who are said to be gifted in each class?
Is it all the kids' fault?
The parents?
Whose?
With MSA's priority of Stuffing Union Pockets First, the future's not shaping up to be much better for Boro's students.

Locally, the crime of the millenium is the superintendent's decision to restrict the public's participation in the district policy committee to only ONE individual....

an extremely obnoxious, bleeding heart, heavily biased liberal.
MoreRons Status Quo

Springboro, OH

#31481 Jun 7, 2014
a call for balance wrote:
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With MSA's priority of Stuffing Union Pockets First, the future's not shaping up to be much better for Boro's students.
Locally, the crime of the millenium is the superintendent's decision to restrict the public's participation in the district policy committee to only ONE individual....
an extremely obnoxious, bleeding heart, heavily biased liberal.
And that is What Springboro School Superintendent Todd Petrey's $12,000 MVP Project
looks like. ONE Voice of Petrey's Most Valuable Parent for SURE for ONE Future of SEA Union Solidarity AGAINST our Students First and Springboro Families.
Boro Mission of Failure

Springboro, OH

#31482 Jun 7, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
The question becomes, where did your child fall?
In the Class of 2018 the state claimed 93% of the children were PROFICIENT or better in the 8th grade.
PROFICIENT means the children scored above 40% on the math test.
According to Mr. Malone:
40% is Failing.
50% is Failing
60% is Failing
The reality is the Class of 2018 had just 23% that were able to answer 3 out of 4 questions correctly on a basic math test.
What higher level classes will the vast majority of the class of 2018 be prepared to take in Math at the high school?
What happened to that 40% of our kids who are said to be gifted in each class?
Is it all the kids' fault?
The parents?
Whose?
Under the BOE leadership of union controlled elected officials Anderson/Malone/Stuckey, school superintendent Todd Petrey's performance is rated 100 per cent failure for our school children and Springboro families.

And this is what Oligarchy looks like: 1a. Government by a few, especially by a small faction of persons or families; b. Those making up such a government; 2. A state governed by a few persons.

Here is what Springboro Oligarchy look(MSA Threesome for ONE Future of Union Solidarity)

Here is what Springboro Oligarchy looks like under our Union Controlled MSA Threesome for ONE future Union First:

check the Board of Education heading on the school website Springboro.org .
Jun 03, 2014 - SPRINGBORO BOARD OF EDUCATION SPECIAL MEETING
Category
Business Manager's Report
Subject
Approval of Resolution Declaring a Case of Urgent Necessity to Implement an Energy Conservation Program
Type
Action
Recommended Action
Request: Approval of Resolution Declaring a Case of Urgent Necessity to Implement an Energy Conservation Program.

Energy Conservation Program Urgent Necessity.pdf (13 KB)
Energy Conservation Discussion Sheet.pdf (11 KB)
Energy Conservation Company Information.pdf (1,389 KB)

Motion & Voting
Request: Approval of Resolution Declaring a Case of Urgent Necessity to Implement an Energy Conservation Program.

Motion by Ron Malone, second by Dave Stuckey.
Final Resolution: Motion Carries
Yea: Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, Dave Stuckey
Nay: David F Petroni, Jim N Rigano
Mission of Stupidity

Springboro, OH

#31483 Jun 7, 2014
a call for balance wrote:
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With MSA's priority of Stuffing Union Pockets First, the future's not shaping up to be much better for Boro's students.
Locally, the crime of the millenium is the superintendent's decision to restrict the public's participation in the district policy committee to only ONE individual....
an extremely obnoxious, bleeding heart, heavily biased liberal.
Springboro, We've Got More Than ONE individual... an extremely obnoxious, bleeding heart, heavily biased liberal.....

.... the crime of the millennium is the superintendent's decision to open up a five million dollar contract to the company of his ONE chosen parent for SURE on the District Budget committee; With NO competitive bids Allowed.
lol

Springboro, OH

#31484 Jun 7, 2014
Mission of Stupidity wrote:
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Springboro, We've Got More Than ONE individual... an extremely obnoxious, bleeding heart, heavily biased liberal.....
.... the crime of the millennium is the superintendent's decision to open up a five million dollar contract to the company of his ONE chosen parent for SURE on the District Budget committee; With NO competitive bids Allowed.
Guess that means based on MATH common core standards that the Big Picture of Education in Springboro looks like this:

ONE union first school superintendent Plus ONE union first community business man equals ONE unbroken Circle of Union Solidarity Greed.
circle of indoctrination

Springboro, OH

#31485 Jun 8, 2014
After attending yesterday's Boro commencement, it's obvious that David Petroni was absolutely correct to pressure AP to reveal their actual identity. All Petroni was attempting to do was safeguard the kids' security. At that time there was no one in this community who could tell whether AP was 17 or 70 years old. AP might claim to be all about random acts of kindness and that others can do the same. That's great. The reality of the matter is that the AP originated the same way as almost every other high school hallway drama. It originated from the adolescent yearning to be P-O-P-U-L-A-R.
Mission of Stupidity

Springboro, OH

#31486 Jun 9, 2014
Who is this Left Leaning Anonymous ONE, who fell for that emotional abuse at the hands of our Springboro Professional Educators whose self-interest lust for love of money and power, outweighs their sense of what's right and what's wrong for our Springboro Students?
perspective

Springboro, OH

#31489 Jun 9, 2014
Mission of Stupidity wrote:
Who is this Left Leaning Anonymous ONE, who fell for that emotional abuse at the hands of our Springboro Professional Educators whose self-interest lust for love of money and power, outweighs their sense of what's right and what's wrong for our Springboro Students?
C'mon! You're kidding, right? Here we are, two days after the graduation ceremony. And you're clueless as to AP's identity?
Clueless

Springboro, OH

#31490 Jun 9, 2014
perspective wrote:
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C'mon! You're kidding, right? Here we are, two days after the graduation ceremony. And you're clueless as to AP's identity?
You Betcha I'm Absolutely Clueless! Again, I am asking Who Is That Anonymous Panther?

If this is a student who wanted to play it BIG with the Good ole Boys of Union Solidarity Forces Against our Children First best interest, then this student's BIG show of paying it forward with random acts of kindnes should now be labeled with the proper Student Union Activist Identity. Isn't Recognition what Boro Pride is all about?

It is probably for SURE, "Impossible To Dream" it; but BELIEVE it; There is Life going on outside the doors of our K-12 classrooms, and Life IS Good, without the daily indoctrination of Springboro Students to praise and worship our wonderful union classroom teachers.
Many good people who live and work and educate their own children based on their individual beliefs and values in education, go about doing good for others because it is the right thing to do; NOT to call attention to themselves as an Anonymous do-gooder.
Still Clueless

Springboro, OH

#31491 Jun 9, 2014
perspective wrote:
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C'mon! You're kidding, right? Here we are, two days after the graduation ceremony. And you're clueless as to AP's identity?
Still Clueless as to AP's identity.

It is your perspective that Anonymous Panther has been used in the Board Room during the
SEA Officer's radical ranting that Christians should keep their Religion behind closed doors of their churches?

Is it your perspective that Anonymous Panther is the same student who was manipulated to present tearful testimony that God has no place in this country?

(That was so sad to see that young man so anxious to please his admired authority figures of SEA, showing false confidence in himself as a student union activist stating his own convictions; but really proving that he was just a wanna be kid trying to be popular with the SEA union forces.) And that's what an immature teenager looks like. Shame on our professional educators for exploiting the innocence of Youth to further their own selfish political agendas.
perspective

Springboro, OH

#31492 Jun 9, 2014
Still Clueless wrote:
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Still Clueless as to AP's identity.
It is your perspective that Anonymous Panther has been used in the Board Room during the
SEA Officer's radical ranting that Christians should keep their Religion behind closed doors of their churches?
Is it your perspective that Anonymous Panther is the same student who was manipulated to present tearful testimony that God has no place in this country?
(That was so sad to see that young man so anxious to please his admired authority figures of SEA, showing false confidence in himself as a student union activist stating his own convictions; but really proving that he was just a wanna be kid trying to be popular with the SEA union forces.) And that's what an immature teenager looks like. Shame on our professional educators for exploiting the innocence of Youth to further their own selfish political agendas.
Because the individual in question lives in an unknown cusp, between juvenile and adulthood, you may want to consider becoming informed through a non-social media source.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31494 Jun 9, 2014
perspective wrote:
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Because the individual in question lives in an unknown cusp, between juvenile and adulthood, you may want to consider becoming informed through a non-social media source.
If the individual in question is 18 years or older they are an adult. As such they have the right to learn the hard way how stupid they actually are. I supposed this individual is no different than the vast majority of us who knew way more than our parents upon graduation from high school.

Funny thing is my parents got awful smart over the next seven or so years, because by the time I was 25 or 26 they really seemed to have wised up.
Waste Watchers

Springboro, OH

#31495 Jun 10, 2014
Is it possible to be too helpful? Can our helpfulness actually make life more difficult for others? Yes, if we're being bothersome, intrusive, smothering, manipulative, or controlling.

If the help we are giving is driven only by our own anxiety, we may be just trying to help ourselves.

Springboro Families must be alert to the 2013 "Help Us Help You" failed CCFD campaign to increase fire levy Taxes 93% on all Springboro Famiiles, in the CCFD Fire Chief's efforts to emotionally blackmail Springboro families to Vote Yes for the unnecessary tax increase, OR else our "lives and limbs and property" would be at great risk of suffering great harm (as fire stations were closed and longer response time for emergency services would be used against Springboro families for punishment for not saying yes to the CCFD unnecessary fire levy tax increase).

Springboro families woke up to the fact that our CCFD fire chief's plea to "help him help us" would actually make life more difficult for all others, EXCEPT, those of the CCFD Firefighters Union. Yes, our CCFD Firefighters Union is too bothersome, intrusive, smothering, manipulative and controlling. In the CCFD Firefighters Union's zeal to increase employment security and wages/benefits compensation for the Firefighters Union members, the CCFD chief crossed over the line drawn between being helpful to citizens vs hurting the citizens by just trying to help the firefighters union increase their Union Dues payments.

Yes, the CCFD fire levy tax increase was driven only by the anxiety of the firefighters Union who were just trying to help "themselves" in promoting success of an unnecessary tax increase that would result in hurting the Springboro families that the CCFD falsely claimed they desired to "help."

Wake up Springboro! The CCFD fire chief is hard at work obeying the suggestions of our Clearcreek Township fiscal officer who told the fire chief in public meeting that he had to "Spend" the big Surplus before the Trustees would consider a vote to put the failed 2013 levy back on the ballot. Remember -- in the Union's handbook the word "Spend" and "Waste" are the same.

And that is just a Shame for our Clearcreek Township government to aggressively Waste our hard earned tax dollars, just trying to "justify" hurting Springboro families with another attempt to successfully pass an unnecessary fire levy tax increase.
Waste Watchers

Springboro, OH

#31496 Jun 10, 2014
Is it possible to be too helpful? Can our helpfulness actually make life more difficult for others? Yes, if we're being bothersome, intrusive, smothering, manipulative, or controlling.

If the help we are giving is driven only by our own anxiety, we may be just trying to help ourselves.

...... And that's what Union Solidarity against Springboro families look like. You Betcha the SEA president is driven only by his own anxiety and just trying to help the Union members, not caring at all that his union first agenda of politics of personal destruction is hurting our school children first and our community.

On the ohea.org website, SEA president Scott Maney articulates the teachers union strategy of solidarity success at the high cost of hurting others by their relentless bully campaign of politics of personal destruction against three Board of Education elected representatives:
"But by the November 2011 school board election in which two (2) additional "fiscally conservative" candidates won seats, SEA knew it was time to step it up, especially since negotiations were to commence in March 2013.......

Wake Up People! Can you believe that Scott Maney stated the reason for SURE's campaign of politics of personal destruction against these
"fiscally conservative" BOE elected officials because..........

"The school board was freely stating its plans to move to a merit pay system, bring health insurance in line with the private sector and have teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community."

Our school superintendent is fond of saying that our professional educators are our school districts greatest resource... but at what cost of wasteful spending?..... that we now see our union controlled Board majority listening only to the one voice of union solidarity, leaving our common sense elected officials financial expertise and leadership skills left behind, to the detriment of our Students First?

Circle of Greed

Springboro, OH

#31497 Jun 10, 2014
Waste Watchers wrote:
Is it possible to be too helpful? Can our helpfulness actually make life more difficult for others? Yes, if we're being bothersome, intrusive, smothering, manipulative, or controlling.
If the help we are giving is driven only by our own anxiety, we may be just trying to help ourselves.
...... And that's what Union Solidarity against Springboro families look like. You Betcha the SEA president is driven only by his own anxiety and just trying to help the Union members, not caring at all that his union first agenda of politics of personal destruction is hurting our school children first and our community.
On the ohea.org website, SEA president Scott Maney articulates the teachers union strategy of solidarity success at the high cost of hurting others by their relentless bully campaign of politics of personal destruction against three Board of Education elected representatives:
"But by the November 2011 school board election in which two (2) additional "fiscally conservative" candidates won seats, SEA knew it was time to step it up, especially since negotiations were to commence in March 2013.......
Wake Up People! Can you believe that Scott Maney stated the reason for SURE's campaign of politics of personal destruction against these
"fiscally conservative" BOE elected officials because..........
"The school board was freely stating its plans to move to a merit pay system, bring health insurance in line with the private sector and have teachers work in the same rigorous manner as others in the community."
Our school superintendent is fond of saying that our professional educators are our school districts greatest resource... but at what cost of wasteful spending?..... that we now see our union controlled Board majority listening only to the one voice of union solidarity, leaving our common sense elected officials financial expertise and leadership skills left behind, to the detriment of our Students First?
Our school superintendent is also fond of saying that superintendents who can't pass levies in their school district don't get hired by other school districts and there's a lot of people out there looking to be hired.

Our school superintendent is deeply embedded in the the OSBA philosophy of indoctrination that a school superintendent is really just the Big Chief of Fund Raising and promoting increased taxes as a way of identifying the superintendent as successful. That's the Beliefs and Values in Education embraced by the current SEA union controlled MSA board majority.

That's why Mr. Petrey has hired Mr. Stec to run a wasteful promotion campaign for projected New Taxes needed for employment security and increased wages/compensation benefits packages for Teachers Union members. Keep in mind that the priority agenda of the SEA president is to increase Staff members, Staff Salaries and compensation benefits packages; and keep in mind that the priority of increasing number of Union Teachers is so that the SEA has more union teachers paying Union dues..... the more salary that Maney can manipulate out of our childrens first classroom school tax dollars; equals more dollars paid into local, state, and national dues, then straight into the pockets of politicians of Both political parties. Politicians in Ohio financially benefit greatly from the status quo politics of forced unionism. No matter who gets elected, Taxpayers never get a break!

Stay Alert Voters! Don't let our highly paid fund raising levy promoting school superintendent Todd Petrey break the resolve of Springboro Stakeholders to Vote No on Unnecessary school levy tax increases. Our school district has plenty of money and is now receiving more money from the State than ever before.

Don't let this $5 million DEBT of Todd Petrey's to his district budget committee member for Sure, Todd Smith, enslave our children first and Springboro families with more DEBT to this local school government! Just Say NO to New Taxes!

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