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Worth Repeating

Springfield, OH

#31293 May 9, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
Speaking of casting unwarranted aspersions where are the champions for Ms Grigsby?
Ms Grigsby settled with the insurance company for enough to pay her lawyers. She did not get the apology from the current board that she so hoped would vindicate her fight against unfair hiring practices as exhibited by Jeff Renshaw, George Long, Gene Lolli, and everyone seemingly above and below Ron Malone.
Mr. Malone was most likely the victim of all of the misdeeds of those who were his nominal employees and boss. They probably did not want to bother Mr. Malone with anything as trivial as denying a perfectly competent woman a job in his high school.
Makes one wonder why nobody bothered to confer with their boss, Mr Malone, before they headed down this path that cost the district wasted time, energy, and money.
And why would Mr. Malone deny this poor woman who has been through so much a formal apology from the board of education that he now controls?
And who went down to represent the board at settlement time?
Wasn't it Mr. Malone? Probably to explain why Ms Grigsby's apology would not be forthcoming. Mostly because some unkind reflections upon his countenance and reputation may arise. So sorry for you, but you understand, its for the greater good and your usefulness as a pawn is at an end.
Self interest seems to show its ugly head around those we admire unconditionally.
Most often to the chagrin and discomfort of those who held them so.
Self interest seems to show its ugly head especially around those who unconditionally worship and praise themselves. Isn't that Malone?
Worth Repeating

Springfield, OH

#31294 May 9, 2014
names wrote:
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You must take into account that there are probably only 12-14 Democrats living in those voting districts. This is Springboro/Warren County. And there are probably 500 Republicans in Mr. Petroni's voting district. Looks like he didn't fare so well.
You must take into account that there are large numbers of Union First activists that collectively flock together in Springboro/Warren County politics of forced unionism--in both the Republican and Democratic parties. Real leaders, of whom David Petroni is ONE, never puts collective party interests first to further his own political agenda; regardless of election results David Petroni fairs quite well as the Real Winner, even in the midst of a majority of losers.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31295 May 10, 2014
Stephanie Bindemann wrote:
Doug
There are 44 registered Democrats in my precinct. I was honored to receive 24 votes out of the 27 Dems who voted. Still wish more people had exercised their right to vote.
The Big Kahuna
Absolutely fabulous, congratulations on your runaway victory, I expect you will be every bit as magnanimous and gracious in victory as you are in real life.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31296 May 10, 2014
Stephanie Bindemann wrote:
Doug
There are 44 registered Democrats in my precinct. I was honored to receive 24 votes out of the 27 Dems who voted. Still wish more people had exercised their right to vote.
The Big Kahuna
Now Kahuna, what are your thoughts on the shabby treatment Ms Grigsby received by those at the high school playing politics with her life and career?

Aren't you wondering why no formal board apology has been brought forward by Mr Malone?

The case has been settled for nearly two months and nary a peep from the media, nor those who loudly championed her cause, has been heard.

It is almost like she was used as a pawn in someone else's game.

But who do you think that would be?
Anti-school politicians

Springfield, OH

#31297 May 10, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Who, pray tell, did win in these races?
Are you saying by implication that Ms. Bindeman is a Democrat weasel who won her unopposed race with just 24 votes?
How about Ms. Greenburg is she also a Democrat weasel who won her unopposed race with just 11 votes?
Ms. Gregg a Democrat weasel who won her unopposed race with a mere 9 votes?
How about Joe Kirby, he received 12,000 plus votes in his unopposed race, is he also a Republican weasel?
All of the above ran unopposed.
Mr. Petroni in defeat and aside from a continual smearing of his name for two years still outpolled Ms Bindeman, Ms Greenburg, and Ms Gregg in their combined total votes cast.
Your disparaging and inane comments are once again revealed to be the product of ill conceived hatred and the apparent lacking of a logical mind.
Good luck with that combination in the future.
You guys aren't weasels because you ran unopposed; you just got LUCKY. You would have had your asses handed to you. You're weasels because, well, you're weasels.
Idiot

Springfield, OH

#31298 May 10, 2014
lol wrote:
Now everybody loves a joker... but really, Mr. Anderson!!!
Our newly elected Springboro School Board President, Charles Anderson, sold so many of his funeral home business ads to Springboro students at $1.00 per Like on Facebook; that now Inquiring Minds are asking: Is there a quality education in store for our schools' future..... OR a funeral for our 21st Century education Vision of Reform putting Kids first???
Spin much? Only you could spin a great thing he was doing - helping with afterprom - into something to slam him on. Way to squelch any future donations from other businesses.
Good Golly

Springfield, OH

#31299 May 10, 2014
Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
Spin much? Only you could spin a great thing he was doing - helping with afterprom - into something to slam him on. Way to squelch any future donations from other businesses.
That's so funny! do you mean like union classroom teacher Molly Wray helping herself to our students' ID's to help promote the school board election of two retired educators, Ron Malone and David Stuckey and one old has been a former school board member, Charles Anderson?

Do you really think our union controlled Board of Education's vote to reward Molly Wray with a supplemental contract as mentor to our students will "squelch" future violations of our students' privacy from being repeated by our union classroom teachers, who feel they are above the rule of the authority of laws that are meant to protect all citizens?

Since: Dec 09

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#31300 May 10, 2014
Idiot wrote:
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Spin much? Only you could spin a great thing he was doing - helping with afterprom - into something to slam him on. Way to squelch any future donations from other businesses.
get over it, Jobe.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#31301 May 10, 2014
Anti-school politicians wrote:
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You guys aren't weasels because you ran unopposed; you just got LUCKY. You would have had your asses handed to you. You're weasels because, well, you're weasels.
how many Id's do you use, Jobe ?...talking about weasels....
lol

Springfield, OH

#31302 May 10, 2014
Anti-school politicians wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys aren't weasels because you ran unopposed; you just got LUCKY. You would have had your asses handed to you. You're weasels because, well, you're weasels.
Hey There You Anti-School Politicians with your mouth below your belt! Watch the language on this blog!

Don't you know that you are supposed to follow the role model of Big K and take it to the boardroom in front of the TV cameras! Then, our Springboro School Superintendent will "appoint" you collective minded ones for S-U-R-E to the Superintendent's District Policy Committee! That's the way Board Policy is handled way down low in the Boro in our union controlled Board room, under the Majority Leadership of Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, and David Stuckey.
Anonymous

Springfield, OH

#31303 May 10, 2014
Anti-school politicians wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys aren't weasels because you ran unopposed; you just got LUCKY. You would have had your asses handed to you. You're weasels because, well, you're weasels.
If the writer of "Anti-school politicians" is a Boro Alumni, don't forget to stop running your mouth long enough to say thank you to a SEA union classroom teacher for instilling in your mind and heart such a great appreciation of "your fellow Americans!"
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31304 May 11, 2014
Idiot wrote:
<quoted text>
Spin much? Only you could spin a great thing he was doing - helping with afterprom - into something to slam him on. Way to squelch any future donations from other businesses.
Mr. Anderson was not "donating", he was buying greater internet presence for his business to enhance his personal wealth.

When BEI donated the use of a much needed trailer to the track teams to properly store the team's equipment, BEI did so by giving up a revenue stream that reduced their personal wealth. They did this because it was the right thing to do and they had the means to accomplish the necessary goal for the track team. No one at BEI is in anyway affiliated with the track team, so BEI had no underlying ulterior motive other than just helping out where they could for the betterment of the program and the community.

The family that runs BEI is not alone, there are many instances of others aiding our children, programs, and schools in many unsung ways that do not garner a shout out from the district for purchasing advertising for the Board of Education's business.

Sorry Charlie, but you took an opportunity to selflessly help others and turned it into an opportunity enhance your personal wealth by bribing children to enhance your web presence.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31305 May 11, 2014
Anti-school politicians wrote:
<quoted text>
You guys aren't weasels because you ran unopposed; you just got LUCKY. You would have had your asses handed to you. You're weasels because, well, you're weasels.
The last refuge of those with no points left to debate, name calling.

"Let us take a patriot, where we can meet him; and, that we may not flatter ourselves by false appearances, distinguish those marks which are certain, from those which may deceive; for a man may have the external appearance of a patriot, without the constituent qualities; as false coins have often lustre, though they want weight."

Still true these many years after Samuel Johnson penned them.

Can you say Ron Malone?

A man who would tell another person to sell anyone else down the river to enhance his own personal reputation.

For instance our children's future for the sake of a hollow approbation that he knows means nothing.

Lest we forget it was Ron Malone who according to his peers at the Warren County Education Service Center during their audits of Ron's program of studies at the high school noted:

Why the School Should Continue to Address This Key Practice. According to Table 8, only 43 percent of SHS students have completed the HSTW-recommended curriculum (Ohio Core), a 34 percent decrease from 2008. Although interviews indicate that this sharp decrease is the result of changes in the process for coding transcripts, versus changes in curriculum, the decrease is still noteworthy. Only 60 percent of SHS students completed four credits of CP English, a decrease of 33 percent from 2008. There was a five percent drop between 2008 and 2010 with 77 percent of students completing four credits of CP mathematics. Eighty percent completed three credits of CP science, a decrease of 12 percent from 2008. Only 55 percent of SHS students completed at least one concentration, 30 percent below the HSTW goal.

SHS still offers general level classes (Algebra 1A and 1B, physical science, US History, and World History). Thus, not all students experience a college-preparatory curriculum. Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the HSTW philosophy, SHS BELIEVES THAT OFFERING LOW LEVEL CLASSES IS IN THE BEST INTEREST of students. This belief, however, was NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA.

Who drove that horse, the compliant, unquestioning school boards of the past who acted on Ron Malone's recommendation during that 2008-2010 period?

Or the author of those recommendations whose personal pursuit of phony awards and approbations cheated untold children, parents, and taxpayers of the education they were promised?
In the News

Springfield, OH

#31306 May 11, 2014
Lest we forget.....

According to the DDN, who was it who interrupted his student during OGT classroom time, requesting that student to email a protest against Board authority; which is clearly a violation of student code?

Could it be none other than our insanely popular with the SEA Union Activists, former SHS Principal Ron; who now sits as Vice President of the Board of Education, using MSA popular majority rule to re-instate status quo past failed practices?
Just Wondering

Springfield, OH

#31307 May 11, 2014
In the News wrote:
Lest we forget.....
According to the DDN, who was it who interrupted his student during OGT classroom time, requesting that student to email a protest against Board authority; which is clearly a violation of student code?
Could it be none other than our insanely popular with the SEA Union Activists, former SHS Principal Ron; who now sits as Vice President of the Board of Education, using MSA popular majority rule to re-instate status quo past failed practices?
What would Springboro Board of Education Vice President, Ron Malone, do IF the tables were turned on him and the current Board President, and a community wide protest was launched against their Union First Leadership Representing Only Recommendations from the SEA Staff; protesting that they step down in the Board Room and let the Children First Leadership BOE elected officials take the positions of President and Vice President of the Springboro Board of Education, doing what's right for our school children and community, making tough decisions in the best interest of our students, even when it isn't the insanely popular thing to do?
The More You Know

Springfield, OH

#31309 May 12, 2014
If your busy work schedule and priority family responsibilities prevent you from attending the Springboro School Board of Education public meetings, seeing firsthand how a union controlled Board is wasting our school tax dollars, then you can go to www.mvcc.net and check on TV/video service, then click on TV playback schedules, and choose "eatv21; then you can choose the week and view the playback times. Also, you can check out the school district website for postings of board videos.
Appreciate GOOD Teachers

Springfield, OH

#31310 May 12, 2014
Good Golly wrote:
<quoted text>
That's so funny! do you mean like union classroom teacher Molly Wray helping herself to our students' ID's to help promote the school board election of two retired educators, Ron Malone and David Stuckey and one old has been a former school board member, Charles Anderson?
Do you really think our union controlled Board of Education's vote to reward Molly Wray with a supplemental contract as mentor to our students will "squelch" future violations of our students' privacy from being repeated by our union classroom teachers, who feel they are above the rule of the authority of laws that are meant to protect all citizens?
The Boro BOE certainly has shown a lot of appreciation for this district's teachers.

The BOE shows their appreciation by negotiating 6% raises. What percentage of the rest of the community receives 6% annual raises?

Teachers receive FREE exercise classes.at Springboro Intermediate.
Many of the rest of us pay annual dues for our families for Coffman YMCA or some other fitness club.

Teachers receive "continuing contracts" which means they're tenured; they cannot be discharged from their employment except for the most serious of offenses, such as theft.
Almost every other mode of work is regarded as employment-at-will, jobs which may be terminated at any time, by either the employer or the employee, for virtually no reason.

Tenure in public education has been proven to be harmful to student success.

It's important for this community that the district openly celebrate Springboro's group of extremely talented, caring teachers. At the same time, it's equally important that administrators and the BOE delve this praise toward teachers who've EARNED this praise, recognition and reward.

Around this district, there are a number of teachers who should not be teaching.

Some teachers have been around for decades, know fully well that they're tenured, and know it's next to impossible that they could be dismissed. The guarantees of tenured employment is reflected in the lackluster way many of them go about the daily rituals of instructing children. Certain other teachers should not be teaching children any longer because they're "burnt-out" and need to find another occupation . Still others lack vital communication tools, which are of course completely indispensible for all sorts of classroom interaction. Then, there's out there who use Boro alumni for personal gain, or as political pawns.

In recent weeks the Springboro BOE has made a gesture toward older students by inviting increased student involvement in the board room. I think this is a fabulous idea. However, increased student involvement in the board room should have ramifications other than just students learning about debate, how the BOE works, etc.

If SHS AND Jr High students are being invited into the board room, they ought to have the priveledge of being polled, anonymously,(by a neutral outside party) regarding the overall effectiveness of EACH AND EVERY ONE of their teachers.
The More You Know

Springfield, OH

#31311 May 12, 2014
Appreciate GOOD Teachers wrote:
<quoted text>
The Boro BOE certainly has shown a lot of appreciation for this district's teachers.
The BOE shows their appreciation by negotiating 6% raises. What percentage of the rest of the community receives 6% annual raises?
Teachers receive FREE exercise classes.at Springboro Intermediate.
Many of the rest of us pay annual dues for our families for Coffman YMCA or some other fitness club.
Teachers receive "continuing contracts" which means they're tenured; they cannot be discharged from their employment except for the most serious of offenses, such as theft.
Almost every other mode of work is regarded as employment-at-will, jobs which may be terminated at any time, by either the employer or the employee, for virtually no reason.
Tenure in public education has been proven to be harmful to student success.
It's important for this community that the district openly celebrate Springboro's group of extremely talented, caring teachers. At the same time, it's equally important that administrators and the BOE delve this praise toward teachers who've EARNED this praise, recognition and reward.
Around this district, there are a number of teachers who should not be teaching.
Some teachers have been around for decades, know fully well that they're tenured, and know it's next to impossible that they could be dismissed. The guarantees of tenured employment is reflected in the lackluster way many of them go about the daily rituals of instructing children. Certain other teachers should not be teaching children any longer because they're "burnt-out" and need to find another occupation . Still others lack vital communication tools, which are of course completely indispensible for all sorts of classroom interaction. Then, there's out there who use Boro alumni for personal gain, or as political pawns.
In recent weeks the Springboro BOE has made a gesture toward older students by inviting increased student involvement in the board room. I think this is a fabulous idea. However, increased student involvement in the board room should have ramifications other than just students learning about debate, how the BOE works, etc.
If SHS AND Jr High students are being invited into the board room, they ought to have the priveledge of being polled, anonymously,(by a neutral outside party) regarding the overall effectiveness of EACH AND EVERY ONE of their teachers.
Can you tell us WHY the Springboro BOE making a gesture toward older students by inviting increased student involvement for S-U-R-E in the board room is a "fabulous idea?"
Insanely Hypocritical

Springfield, OH

#31312 May 12, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Anderson was not "donating", he was buying greater internet presence for his business to enhance his personal wealth.
When BEI donated the use of a much needed trailer to the track teams to properly store the team's equipment, BEI did so by giving up a revenue stream that reduced their personal wealth. They did this because it was the right thing to do and they had the means to accomplish the necessary goal for the track team. No one at BEI is in anyway affiliated with the track team, so BEI had no underlying ulterior motive other than just helping out where they could for the betterment of the program and the community.
The family that runs BEI is not alone, there are many instances of others aiding our children, programs, and schools in many unsung ways that do not garner a shout out from the district for purchasing advertising for the Board of Education's business.
Sorry Charlie, but you took an opportunity to selflessly help others and turned it into an opportunity enhance your personal wealth by bribing children to enhance your web presence.
Can you say Charles Anderson by any other name than Insanely Hypocritical.

... and that's not a beautiful thing.
Support GOOD Teachers

Springfield, OH

#31313 May 12, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you tell us WHY the Springboro BOE making a gesture toward older students by inviting increased student involvement for S-U-R-E in the board room is a "fabulous idea?"
Older students (16,17 and 18 year olds, particularly) should have a general understanding of the type of community input and debate that's neccessary in order for boards of education to consciously make / amend policy. In other words, Springboro school board meetings are, natural real-life extentions of what many Boro students are attempting to learn; board meetings should be a complement to government classes.

In regard to the distinct possibility of intentional political indoctrination occuring with students of this still somewhat immature age, ensuring a neutral, unbias atmosphere at each meeting is the responsiblity of the BOE president, as well as with the superintendent.

However, currently, unbiasness is not being accomplished. Currently, many Boro's students are being successfully indoctrinated into Ron Malone's cult of insane popularity. Other Boro students currently are being blind-sided by Bindeman's unapologetic pro-socialist ideals.

Education oppurtunity is there for students in the board room if they are patient and have initiative. Danger for our children lies wherever there are uneven, compromised playing fields.

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