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The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31271 May 8, 2014
Candidate--Total--Votes---Perc entage
Wiedeman----103-----65-----63. 11 %
Petroni-----143-----50-----34. 97 %

Bindemann----27-----24-----88. 89 %
GreenBerg----13-----11-----84. 62 %
Gregg--------13------9-----69. 23 %

Trying to make it easier to read plus...it's worth repeating....:)
Survey Says 100 Per Cent

Springfield, OH

#31272 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't realize that. I ran the numbers again and it looks like B/G/G out did both you and Mr. Petroni...
Candidate Total Votes Percentage
Wiedeman 103 65 63.11 %
Petroni 143 50 34.97 %
Bindemann 27 24 88.89 %
GreenBerg 13 11 84.62 %
Gregg 13 9 69.23 %
Petroni was actually bested by at least 35 points by each of the dems.
Thanks for helping me prove my point, glad you asked me to run the numbers.....
Survey says "the more you know" is proven 100% certified, as being the bigger bully, "out-doing" both Republican and Democrat good neighbors. Where's the glad in that?
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31273 May 9, 2014
Survey Says 100 Per Cent wrote:
<quoted text>
Survey says "the more you know" is proven 100% certified, as being the bigger bully, "out-doing" both Republican and Democrat good neighbors. Where's the glad in that?
How is stating the FACTS bullying. Especially when I was clarifying what Doug asked me to clarify???

Also why are these two not being accused of bullying:

John Parise: "Jobe, I was wondering how long you could go without rearing up your ugly face. "

Doug Wiedeman: "Your disparaging and inane comments are once again revealed to be the product of ill conceived hatred and the apparent lacking of a logical mind."

For that matter you insinuating I'm a bully is bullying.....

I wouldn't condiser me out doing someone who stated someone had an "ugly face" or caliming someone has "the apparent lacking of a logical mind" but you are entitled to your opinion.

I guess that's what you have to resort to when presented with the FACTS.
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31274 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Candidate--Total--Votes---Perc entage
Wiedeman----103-----65-----63. 11 %
Petroni-----143-----50-----34. 97 %
Bindemann----27-----24-----88. 89 %
GreenBerg----13-----11-----84. 62 %
Gregg--------13------9-----69. 23 %
Trying to make it easier to read plus...it's worth repeating....:)
Interesting how these FACTS can be claimed as nuts or be disagreed with. Alot of denial out there.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31275 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>

Doug Wiedeman: "Your disparaging and inane comments are once again revealed to be the product of ill conceived hatred and the apparent lacking of a logical mind."
.
Because your ill conceived hatred and inane comments once again reveal the lack of a logical mind.

That is not bullying, just stating the obvious.

Try not hating so much, it will be good for your health.
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31276 May 9, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Because your ill conceived hatred and inane comments once again reveal the lack of a logical mind.
That is not bullying, just stating the obvious.
Try not hating so much, it will be good for your health.
Telling someone they lack a logical mind IS a form of bullying. It's belittling them just to make them look inferior to you.

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. "

The way to call people names on here and belittle them definitely is repeated and habitual. But why bother with FACTS.

Now about those FACTUAL statistics you asked me to post....
Brain Drain Alert

Springfield, OH

#31277 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't realize that. I ran the numbers again and it looks like B/G/G out did both you and Mr. Petroni...
Candidate Total Votes Percentage
Wiedeman 103 65 63.11 %
Petroni 143 50 34.97 %
Bindemann 27 24 88.89 %
GreenBerg 13 11 84.62 %
Gregg 13 9 69.23 %
Petroni was actually bested by at least 35 points by each of the dems.
Thanks for helping me prove my point, glad you asked me to run the numbers.....
Excuse Me, protesting "the more you know" proves "the meaner you grow."

You are trying to prove that Democrats "bested" Republicans in a primary election; but do you know that in the primary election, that Democrats and Republicans are electing their respective party leaders; and the Democrats and the Republicans are not running against each other; so how can you say that a Democrat "bested" a Republican, when Democrats were not even running in the primary election against Republicans?

Good Golly Miss Molly! You sure do like to bawl grandstanding your Winning a Race in which you weren't even in the running.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31278 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Didn't realize that. I ran the numbers again and it looks like B/G/G out did both you and Mr. Petroni...
Candidate Total Votes Percentage
Wiedeman 103 65 63.11 %
Petroni 143 50 34.97 %
Bindemann 27 24 88.89 %
GreenBerg 13 11 84.62 %
Gregg 13 9 69.23 %
Petroni was actually bested by at least 35 points by each of the dems.
Thanks for helping me prove my point, glad you asked me to run the numbers.....
Less You Seemingly Know, even a child that has the rudimentary math education our schools provide would recognize the sheer folly of your argument.

If you add up the three distinct precincts that voted for these Democratic women, they were still out polled by what Mr.Petroni did in one precinct.

This despite the fact that these genteel women spent the better part of two and half years smearing Mr. Petroni with lies, innuendo, and a half truths.

And all they could muster between the three of them combined was 44 votes.

Mr Petroni earned 50 votes in one distinct precinct in defeat.

50 for one person

44 for THREE people

I wonder who got the most votes?

Come on now you can do this, who got more votes cast for their name?

Ms Gregg at 9 total votes?

Ms. Greenburg at 11 total votes?

Or the big Kahuna, Ms Bindeman at 24 total votes?

Or perhaps Mr. Petroni at 50 total votes?

9,11,24, or 50 which number is the largest?

Try again.
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31279 May 9, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Ms Gregg at 9 total votes?
Ms. Greenburg at 11 total votes?
Or the big Kahuna, Ms Bindeman at 24 total votes?
Or perhaps Mr. Petroni at 50 total votes?
9,11,24, or 50 which number is the largest?
Try again.
You are a true bully at heart. "big Kahuna"? I thought you were better than name calling, but I guess not.

Talk percentages:

Ms. Gregg: 69.23 %
Ms. Greenberg: 84.62 %
Ms. Bindeman: 88.89 %

Mr. Wiedeman: 63.11 %
Mr. Petroni: 34.97%

34, 63, 69, 84, or 88 which number is the largest.

No doubt about it who the real bully is.....
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31280 May 9, 2014
Brain Drain Alert wrote:
<quoted text>
Excuse Me, protesting "the more you know" proves "the meaner you grow."
You are trying to prove that Democrats "bested" Republicans in a primary election; but do you know that in the primary election, that Democrats and Republicans are electing their respective party leaders; and the Democrats and the Republicans are not running against each other; so how can you say that a Democrat "bested" a Republican, when Democrats were not even running in the primary election against Republicans?
Good Golly Miss Molly! You sure do like to bawl grandstanding your Winning a Race in which you weren't even in the running.
Thanks, I know what a primary is, that's why I used the number of dems/reps to prove the point. I was merely pointing out that as far as percentages go the dems recieved more votes (support) from their constituents than the reps did.

Kind of obvious really.

Less than 35% of the voters bothered to "vote" or fill in a circle for him. Even when he was the only choice, they decided on NO choice.

Enjoy life in the bubble.....
Proverbial Wisdom

Springfield, OH

#31281 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
Candidate--Total--Votes---Perc entage
Wiedeman----103-----65-----63. 11 %
Petroni-----143-----50-----34. 97 %
Bindemann----27-----24-----88. 89 %
GreenBerg----13-----11-----84. 62 %
Gregg--------13------9-----69. 23 %
Trying to make it easier to read plus...it's worth repeating....:)
Not really worth repeating "The More You Know" since "The More You Know" refuses to grow from the better understanding of others on this blog.

We do see exercised by "The More You Know" the closed mindset of this Proverbial Wisdom:

"But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
-see Biblical reference in 2 Peter 2:22-
The More You Know

Dayton, OH

#31282 May 9, 2014
Proverbial Wisdom wrote:
<quoted text>
Not really worth repeating "The More You Know" since "The More You Know" refuses to grow from the better understanding of others on this blog.
We do see exercised by "The More You Know" the closed mindset of this Proverbial Wisdom:
"But it has happened to them according to the true proverb: "A dog returns to his own vomit," and "a sow, having washed, to her wallowing in the mire."
-see Biblical reference in 2 Peter 2:22-
"

You forgot "judge not least ye be judged" or "do unto others..." oh, what's the use.

"You can't teach an old dog new tricks." "If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig."
Waste Watchers

Springfield, OH

#31283 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>"
You forgot "judge not least ye be judged" or "do unto others..." oh, what's the use.
"You can't teach an old dog new tricks." "If you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig."
Speaking of "Proverbial Wisdom" Springboro Families would be wise to take a look at what's happening now in our SEA/ Union controlled board room meetings. What a waste of opportunity for our school district to Compete for the best teachers for our children's future education by re-instating the old outdated practice of voting Continuing Contract for Five of our classroom teachers.

Yes it is true if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.

It is also true IF you provide lifetime employment security Contract to whom the superintendent judges Today as "great" .... and then that old teacher doesn't learn new tricks and that's bad.... Tenure is still a lifetime employment security contract fully protected by the Springboro Education Association.... and that's potentially bad for the future of our schools and community.

Oh yeah...! About that pig in lipstick: ever hear the one about "IF you give a Pig a Pancake, the Pig will come back and take away your syrup and butter?

Worth Repeating

Dayton, OH

#31284 May 9, 2014
Candidate--Total--Votes---Perc entage
Wiedeman----103-----65-----63. 11 %
Petroni-----143-----50-----34. 97 %

Bindemann----27-----24-----88. 89 %
GreenBerg----13-----11-----84. 62 %
Gregg--------13------9-----69. 23 %

it's worth repeating....
names

Springboro, OH

#31285 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a true bully at heart. "big Kahuna"? I thought you were better than name calling, but I guess not.
Talk percentages:
Ms. Gregg: 69.23 %
Ms. Greenberg: 84.62 %
Ms. Bindeman: 88.89 %
Mr. Wiedeman: 63.11 %
Mr. Petroni: 34.97%
34, 63, 69, 84, or 88 which number is the largest.
No doubt about it who the real bully is.....
No, Doug isn't better than name calling, although he will lecture you if/when you might call people names. The hypocricy is astonishing.
Say It Again

Springfield, OH

#31286 May 9, 2014
lol wrote:
<quoted text>
20/20 Vision can clearly see on this blog that Doug is 100% winner even among the majority of losers for S-U-R-E.
20/20 Vision can clearly see on this blog that Doug is 100% winner even among the majority of losers for S-U-R-E.
What Is In A Name

Springfield, OH

#31287 May 9, 2014
names wrote:
<quoted text>
No, Doug isn't better than name calling, although he will lecture you if/when you might call people names. The hypocricy is astonishing.
Simply put, Doug is much better at addressing important issues on this blog
(unlike "the more you know") and that is a winner on this blog, no matter the name.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31288 May 9, 2014
Worth Repeating wrote:
Candidate--Total--Votes---Perc entage
Wiedeman----103-----65-----63. 11 %
Petroni-----143-----50-----34. 97 %
Bindemann----27-----24-----88. 89 %
GreenBerg----13-----11-----84. 62 %
Gregg--------13------9-----69. 23 %
it's worth repeating....
Yup, it sure is worth repeating.

The Democratic primary voters gave a grand total amongst of 44 votes from three distinct and separate Democratic precincts for the genteel women of the left.

Combined they were unable to pull in as many votes as Mr. Petroni did in one precinct.

Petroni 50 votes

Bindeman, Greenburg, and Gregg combined for 44 votes total from like minded Democrats

It sure enough is worth repeating.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31289 May 9, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a true bully at heart. "big Kahuna"? I thought you were better than name calling, but I guess not.
Talk percentages:
Ms. Gregg: 69.23 %
Ms. Greenberg: 84.62 %
Ms. Bindeman: 88.89 %
Mr. Wiedeman: 63.11 %
Mr. Petroni: 34.97%
34, 63, 69, 84, or 88 which number is the largest.
No doubt about it who the real bully is.....
Total votes tell us once again

The Big Kahuna aka Ms Bindeman pulled in a whopping 24 votes from her fellow Democratic voters.

Ms. Greenburg pulled in a whopping 11 votes from her fellow Democratic voters

Ms. Gregg pulled in a whopping 9 votes from her fellow Democratic voters

Mr. Petroni pulled in 50 votes from his fellow Republican voters despite being smeared for two and a half years by at least a couple of the new Democratic leadership.

For those who are culturally unaware the Big Kahuna is the most important person; a chief.

So contrary to your aspersions and mischaracterizations, I am paying all due homage to the Big Kahuna, Ms. Bindeman.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31290 May 9, 2014
Speaking of casting unwarranted aspersions where are the champions for Ms Grigsby?

Ms Grigsby settled with the insurance company for enough to pay her lawyers. She did not get the apology from the current board that she so hoped would vindicate her fight against unfair hiring practices as exhibited by Jeff Renshaw, George Long, Gene Lolli, and everyone seemingly above and below Ron Malone.

Mr. Malone was most likely the victim of all of the misdeeds of those who were his nominal employees and boss. They probably did not want to bother Mr. Malone with anything as trivial as denying a perfectly competent woman a job in his high school.

Makes one wonder why nobody bothered to confer with their boss, Mr Malone, before they headed down this path that cost the district wasted time, energy, and money.

And why would Mr. Malone deny this poor woman who has been through so much a formal apology from the board of education that he now controls?

And who went down to represent the board at settlement time?

Wasn't it Mr. Malone? Probably to explain why Ms Grigsby's apology would not be forthcoming. Mostly because some unkind reflections upon his countenance and reputation may arise. So sorry for you, but you understand, its for the greater good and your usefulness as a pawn is at an end.

Self interest seems to show its ugly head around those we admire unconditionally.

Most often to the chagrin and discomfort of those who held them so.

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