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What Price Safety

Springfield, OH

#31212 Apr 22, 2014
hypocrisy in the BOE wrote:
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Todd Petrey has recently expressed concerns about past security issues in the board room, as well as a concern about future security. If Petrey is sincere about working to improve security in the board room, he needs to begin by addressing security problems at the specific points at which they've originated in the past. This would necessitate direct heart-to-heart conversations with notorious instigators such as S. Bindemann. I don't see this happenin' any time soon.
Todd Petrey has recently proposed board policy changes to Public Participation, by requiring citizens to "sign in" at the beginning of the meeting. Todd Petrey has recently expressed concerns about his responsibility of protecting our students' Safety; and it appears that Todd Petrey believes requiring citizens to sign in with their name, address, group affiliation if any, and topic of their comments to the board, will better protect our kids from Springboro citizens attending the public school board business meeting and the work session meeting.

This "sign in" policy is not really new -- our previous school superintendent and school treasurer tried this "requirement" (and some of those attending board meetings during that time still have copies of the form that the treasurer handed to citizens to fill out; so that the superintendent could then review whether or not the citizens concerns were worth being heard by the BOE elected officials. It's not known the reason "Why" previous school leaders believed they needed to "approve" citizens "safety clearance" before citizens could address board members, who are elected to represent all community members, and sworn into office to uphold the Constitution of the United States.

Our school district employees certainly have the upper hand by their Wordmanship of Legalities; but people in this community should remind Todd Petrey, IF he feels that our children's safety is compromised by Springboro citizens attending a Board of Education Business meeting with our own elected representatives, exercising our Constitutional rights of free speech, then why isn't it the responsibility of Superintendent Todd Petrey and BOE President, Charles Anderson, to STOP using our Children in the Board Business Meetings for Inspiration/Indoctrination? As responsible adults, if it is a known danger to our children's safety, the FIRST step in protecting our Children First is to REMOVE our children from that danger. Trying to micro-manage citizens "speech" in a Community Business meeting is not the best approach. It does conjure up a whole lot of "emotionalism" attached to these requirements proposed on citizens attending a public board meeting, when the Why for
proposing this change is to protect the children.
truth to power

Springfield, OH

#31213 Apr 22, 2014
What Price Safety wrote:
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Todd Petrey has recently proposed board policy changes to Public Participation, by requiring citizens to "sign in" at the beginning of the meeting. Todd Petrey has recently expressed concerns about his responsibility of protecting our students' Safety; and it appears that Todd Petrey believes requiring citizens to sign in with their name, address, group affiliation if any, and topic of their comments to the board, will better protect our kids from Springboro citizens attending the public school board business meeting and the work session meeting.
This "sign in" policy is not really new -- our previous school superintendent and school treasurer tried this "requirement" (and some of those attending board meetings during that time still have copies of the form that the treasurer handed to citizens to fill out; so that the superintendent could then review whether or not the citizens concerns were worth being heard by the BOE elected officials. It's not known the reason "Why" previous school leaders believed they needed to "approve" citizens "safety clearance" before citizens could address board members, who are elected to represent all community members, and sworn into office to uphold the Constitution of the United States.
Our school district employees certainly have the upper hand by their Wordmanship of Legalities; but people in this community should remind Todd Petrey, IF he feels that our children's safety is compromised by Springboro citizens attending a Board of Education Business meeting with our own elected representatives, exercising our Constitutional rights of free speech, then why isn't it the responsibility of Superintendent Todd Petrey and BOE President, Charles Anderson, to STOP using our Children in the Board Business Meetings for Inspiration/Indoctrination? As responsible adults, if it is a known danger to our children's safety, the FIRST step in protecting our Children First is to REMOVE our children from that danger. Trying to micro-manage citizens "speech" in a Community Business meeting is not the best approach. It does conjure up a whole lot of "emotionalism" attached to these requirements proposed on citizens attending a public board meeting, when the Why for
proposing this change is to protect the children.
Perhaps Petrey could implement a separate sign-in sheet to help reel in union-bullies and the levy-ladies.

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Waste Watchers

Springfield, OH

#31214 Apr 23, 2014
truth to power wrote:
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Perhaps Petrey could implement a separate sign-in sheet to help reel in union-bullies and the levy-ladies.
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Could it be that Petrey has already been reeled in by union-bullies and the levy-ladies by his super sweet surrender for S-U-R-E activist Mom; and could it be that Petrey is now taking his marching orders from levy lady MSA campaign manager?

Could it be that Petrey has lost credibility with Springboro Stakeholders as he has publicly embraced S-U-R-E activist Mom as having the experience he needs to re-instate MoreRon status quo past failed practices into Board policy; while telling another Springboro Mom in public board meeting that he had all the parents he needed on the Policy Committee and her volunteer offer to serve on Policy Committee was denied by Petrey?

It appears that Petrey's "Values in Beliefs" of forced unionism merits wasting $12,000 plus of Springboro families' school tax dollars in hiring Jeff Stec's year-long program of Community Engagement to rationalize "What Are the Values in the Beliefs of Springboro Taxpayers" but, in public meeting, Petrey denied One Springboro Parent opportunity to Volunteer giving input of "Values in Beliefs" as a member of Petrey's hand-picked Moms to serve with him on the Policy committee.

What a Waste of school tax dollars and even more important, what a waste of expertise of this Springboro Mom, that Petrey so arrogantly and rudely tossed aside; in favor of his arrogant and rude Springboro Mom activist for S-U-R-E.

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Boros puppet Supt

Springfield, OH

#31217 Apr 25, 2014
Waste Watchers wrote:
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Could it be that Petrey has already been reeled in by union-bullies and the levy-ladies by his super sweet surrender for S-U-R-E activist Mom; and could it be that Petrey is now taking his marching orders from levy lady MSA campaign manager?
Could it be that Petrey has lost credibility with Springboro Stakeholders as he has publicly embraced S-U-R-E activist Mom as having the experience he needs to re-instate MoreRon status quo past failed practices into Board policy; while telling another Springboro Mom in public board meeting that he had all the parents he needed on the Policy Committee and her volunteer offer to serve on Policy Committee was denied by Petrey?
It appears that Petrey's "Values in Beliefs" of forced unionism merits wasting $12,000 plus of Springboro families' school tax dollars in hiring Jeff Stec's year-long program of Community Engagement to rationalize "What Are the Values in the Beliefs of Springboro Taxpayers" but, in public meeting, Petrey denied One Springboro Parent opportunity to Volunteer giving input of "Values in Beliefs" as a member of Petrey's hand-picked Moms to serve with him on the Policy committee.
What a Waste of school tax dollars and even more important, what a waste of expertise of this Springboro Mom, that Petrey so arrogantly and rudely tossed aside; in favor of his arrogant and rude Springboro Mom activist for S-U-R-E.
Perhaps Petrey arrogantly and rudely tossed aside a common sense Springboro Mom in favor of an arrogant and rude S-U-R-E activist Springboro Mom. However there's much more here that should be kept in perspective.

When MSA collectively won last November, Petrey surely had to understand his options.
Option One involved working to show he would adhere to MSA's obvious Union First, Children Second agenda.

Option Two involved staying true to the inner conscience as well as to the students of Springboro by remaining steadfast to hard-fought pre-election Children First initiatives.

The fact of the matter is this entire thread is a complete loop of irony. Boro schools is back to where they were in 2008 when Dr. David Baker served as the BOE's unofficial mouthpiece of deception.

Boro's supintendent isn't the problem.
Boro's problems lie within the hearts of those who are currently manipulating our superintendent.
And They Want More

Springfield, OH

#31218 Apr 25, 2014
Springboro wake up wrote:
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You are so right now Obama minions, liberals and communists are in full control of Springboro education. Let them have it but my kids are out. I saw this union, leftist control years ago when the word creationism made the lefties go berserk. That was it I immediately took my kids out. The liberal communists were the only ones speaking up and the only ones this apathetic community listened to. Instead of standing up for religious freedom, support our families and churches, this community got steam rolled and spun a rumor mill. Totally shameful, totally nauseating and I saw a side of Springboro that every district employee was a part of. They wanted raises, they wanted to feel good, they wanted to be held up as our heroes more than they wanted to protect their own religious rights not to mention our children. Shame, Shame, Shame on all of them. Now Malone scoffs at the word creationism, said at the candidate forum that "we will not discuss that kind of nonsense". Springboro wake up, this is the anti faith, anti religious freedom coward you elected. Springboro if you let this go you are responsible for your children losing their freedoms including their faithful rights. Realize that they scoff at faith inside the schools making you appear silly, discrediting your church and telling kids that that silly god created the world should be laughed at, not respected. Call for three resignations.
Springboro's community of unionism can never get enough of what they really don't need.....
......and that's draining our teachers' salaries with unnecessary union dues.

First they wanted raises; then they wanted to feel good about their raises; but even that wasn't enough to satisfy their greed for more union dues to be collected; Now they want more big increases in school staff, so that more increased union dues can be drained out of our children's classrooms; and into the SEA treasure chest.
MoreRon Narcissism

Springfield, OH

#31220 Apr 25, 2014
Narcissism wrote:
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Yes Mr Petrey makes it up as he goes. Narcissism abounds in Springboro. The idiots of Springboro, including Mr. Miller fall for everything they are told. This ghost, Springboro student is a lie and the idiots fall for it every time. Petroni is the only intelligent person calling it what it is, a hoax. You fools embarrass everyone in Springboro. Next lets watch our School resource officer be the anonymous panther. Hiding behind others seems to be the rule in Springboro lying to the public is a matter of routine. Get your kids out of this sick system. A single brain shared by three board members and the Springboro admin is going to harm your children. Let Strittenburger go or are you afraid you won't replace her with another minion follower?
check it out on the school website April 14 BOE agenda - Subject 5.1 Approval of Personnel Items Director of Resources Report: No. 9 Approval to employ Classified substitute
Sheri Malone, Home Instruction 2013-2014 school year.
Proverbial Wisdom

Springfield, OH

#31221 Apr 26, 2014
Boros puppet Supt wrote:
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Perhaps Petrey arrogantly and rudely tossed aside a common sense Springboro Mom in favor of an arrogant and rude S-U-R-E activist Springboro Mom. However there's much more here that should be kept in perspective.
When MSA collectively won last November, Petrey surely had to understand his options.
Option One involved working to show he would adhere to MSA's obvious Union First, Children Second agenda.
Option Two involved staying true to the inner conscience as well as to the students of Springboro by remaining steadfast to hard-fought pre-election Children First initiatives.
The fact of the matter is this entire thread is a complete loop of irony. Boro schools is back to where they were in 2008 when Dr. David Baker served as the BOE's unofficial mouthpiece of deception.
Boro's supintendent isn't the problem.
Boro's problems lie within the hearts of those who are currently manipulating our superintendent.
"As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeats his folly."
Proverbs 26:11
MoreRon Status Quo

Springfield, OH

#31222 Apr 26, 2014
Survey Says 100 Percent wrote:
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100% of those Springboro Stakeholders, who already know that our MSA BOE majority and our school district leaders/staff do not care about anyone's rights, beliefs, and thoughts
on the outside of their own community of unionism activists, promoting the lust and love of more money and power...... even to the extent of our union classroom teacher, Molly Wray, violating our own Students' privacy rights, using students personal ID school records to further her personal interest in promoting election of retired educators, Ron Malone and David Stuckey, to Springboro School Board of Education.
Who Is Todd Petrey?

Even before the SEA activists took control of the MSA BOE majority, school superintendent Todd Petrey remained loyal to his pro-union roots, singing praise and honor of our former SHS principal, who is insanely popular with SEA pro-levy activists; and for S-U-R-E our Youth Union activists, all of whom joined in the March 2012 Ron Malone protest against Board authority, in their community-wide (failed) efforts to throw out of office the newly elected board representatives.

Remember the student survey that Todd Petrey conducted among students to find out what characteristics the high school students wanted in their new principal? Remember the results revealed in public meeting -- surprise! surprise! what the students want is Principal Ron! Remember the comments made by the superintendent that it would take Three inexperienced administrators to replace the expertise of this ONE Principal Ron, who is insanely popular with the SEA activists and parents for S-U-R-E and the SEA student union group?

Now that retired educator Ron Malone is BOE vice president, school superintendent Todd Petrey has re-grouped his Superintendent/Board of Education Student Communication Council; (wonder if Anonymous Panther is the Student Communication Council Chairperson?).....

Remember Ron Malone's nod of appreciation to the school superintendent in public board meeting recently; with MoreRon's comments that these youth union activists meetings would be making a greater impact on the future decisions being made in the Board's business meetings?
Panther indoctrination

Springfield, OH

#31223 Apr 28, 2014
MoreRon Status Quo wrote:
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Remember the student survey that Todd Petrey conducted among students to find out what characteristics the high school students wanted in their new principal? Remember the results revealed in public meeting -- surprise! surprise! what the students want is Principal Ron!

Remember the comments made by the superintendent that it would take Three inexperienced administrators to replace the expertise of this ONE Principal Ron, who is insanely popular with the SEA activists and parents for S-U-R-E and the SEA student union group?
Thanks to former SHS principal Malone, the future direction of Springboro Schools is being handed over to the "popularity" whims of its jr high and high school students, particularly.

ALL HAIL MALONE - THE PIED PIPER OF SPRINGBORO!!
Hold the Applause

Springfield, OH

#31224 Apr 28, 2014
Panther indoctrination wrote:
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Thanks to former SHS principal Malone, the future direction of Springboro Schools is being handed over to the "popularity" whims of its jr high and high school students, particularly.
ALL HAIL MALONE - THE PIED PIPER OF SPRINGBORO!!
Neither Thanks Nor Applause is due to former Dennis Elementary principal Todd Petrey (and current school superintendent) for handing over leadership of the future direction of Springboro Schools for S-U-R-E/ community organizer, Jeff Stec.

Mr. Stec will do little toward establishing and maintaining an environment of Trust with all stakeholders in the district and community....... but much harm can be expected to result in the program of community engagement of special interest groups launching their hostile War of Words against Springboro families who do not embrace their collective philosophy of forced unionism, with no freedom of choice.
Good Golly

Springfield, OH

#31225 Apr 28, 2014
Hold the Applause wrote:
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Neither Thanks Nor Applause is due to former Dennis Elementary principal Todd Petrey (and current school superintendent) for handing over leadership of the future direction of Springboro Schools for S-U-R-E/ community organizer, Jeff Stec.
Mr. Stec will do little toward establishing and maintaining an environment of Trust with all stakeholders in the district and community....... but much harm can be expected to result in the program of community engagement of special interest groups launching their hostile War of Words against Springboro families who do not embrace their collective philosophy of forced unionism, with no freedom of choice.
Taxpayers in this community should ask Todd Petrey why the waste of our school tax dollars hiring Jeff Stec to launch war of words against Springboro families? Isn't that the job of Anonymous Panther who is most willing to take the lead, just for the kindness of it all?
G-O P-A-N-T-H-E-R-S G-O!
Good Golly

Springfield, OH

#31226 Apr 28, 2014
Good Golly wrote:
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Taxpayers in this community should ask Todd Petrey why the waste of our school tax dollars hiring Jeff Stec to launch war of words against Springboro families? Isn't that the job of Anonymous Panther who is most willing to take the lead, just for the kindness of it all?
G-O P-A-N-T-H-E-R-S G-O!
In the news recently our SHS principal stated The fact that it's anonymous doesn't really bother me because I think it says people are watching no matter what you do and even if they're not watching you, you should always be kind to someone......

Guess union classroom teacher Molly Wray didn't get the word that even if We the People are not watching you inside our schools of excellence with distinction, you should always show respect for authority of the law and never intentionally violate our Springboro students privacy rights......... Where's the Values in the Beliefs of our classroom teacher who would do that just to further personal political agenda?
Where Is the Belief

Springfield, OH

#31227 Apr 28, 2014
Good Golly wrote:
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In the news recently our SHS principal stated The fact that it's anonymous doesn't really bother me because I think it says people are watching no matter what you do and even if they're not watching you, you should always be kind to someone......
Guess union classroom teacher Molly Wray didn't get the word that even if We the People are not watching you inside our schools of excellence with distinction, you should always show respect for authority of the law and never intentionally violate our Springboro students privacy rights......... Where's the Values in the Beliefs of our classroom teacher who would do that just to further personal political agenda?
What are the Values in the Beliefs of our school superintendent who is now pushing the BOE members to change Public Participation Policy 0169.1 including, forbidding Springboro stakeholders attending public business meetings, to ask our BOE elected officials questions? Our school superintendent "Believes" he needs to move to more structure for safety's sake; based on the public meetings last year during which conversion schools topics were on the agenda. But some Springboro stakeholders who attended last week's board meeting Believe that the superintendent should not use the emotional issue of keeping kids safer to push limitations on free communication in public board business meetings between Springboro Board of Education members and their Constituents, who elected the board members to represent the community as a whole, in addition to the responsibility of the board to represent all School employees.
Idiocracy

United States

#31228 Apr 28, 2014
You pulled your kids out? Really? Highly doubt it.

I'm sure you're making this up to appear "credible".(If you even have kids)

So where do you send your kids now? What school do you find acceptable?

Typical right wing rhetoric - can't think for yourself just repeat what you hear on Fox News.

I can prove it -

We get it, you don't like POTUS, you believe there's an invisible man in the sky that wants you to behave a certain way, and if you don't you will burn in hell for eternity, you believe all taxes are bad, you believe healthcare is going to bust our budget, you believe everyone should believe what you believe (because you're right, and anyone who disagrees is just an idiot if they don't), you believe in less government ..... Etc etc,...am I on the right track?

Ok.

So - We Get It!!!!

Now- tell us your plan, but do it WITHOUT mentioning any words that reference the left wing, liberals, and don't explain that we "must undo everything that Obama has done". We get it, we will just assume undoing everything liberals have done is part of your master plan.

Get it? Understand the rules?

Great.

Be intelligent, don't use emotion, be factual, be reasonable, and show us why we are wrong.

Now - lets hear your plan.
Springboro wake up wrote:
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You are so right now Obama minions, liberals and communists are in full control of Springboro education. Let them have it but my kids are out. I saw this union, leftist control years ago when the word creationism made the lefties go berserk. That was it I immediately took my kids out. The liberal communists were the only ones speaking up and the only ones this apathetic community listened to. Instead of standing up for religious freedom, support our families and churches, this community got steam rolled and spun a rumor mill. Totally shameful, totally nauseating and I saw a side of Springboro that every district employee was a part of. They wanted raises, they wanted to feel good, they wanted to be held up as our heroes more than they wanted to protect their own religious rights not to mention our children. Shame, Shame, Shame on all of them. Now Malone scoffs at the word creationism, said at the candidate forum that "we will not discuss that kind of nonsense". Springboro wake up, this is the anti faith, anti religious freedom coward you elected. Springboro if you let this go you are responsible for your children losing their freedoms including their faithful rights. Realize that they scoff at faith inside the schools making you appear silly, discrediting your church and telling kids that that silly god created the world should be laughed at, not respected. Call for three resignations.
Dumdownocracy

Springfield, OH

#31229 Apr 28, 2014
Got It! It is Understood that the Renewed Petrey Plan is to re-instate all the failed practices of the past MoreRons, wasting district resources, emotionally blackmailing taxpayers, and holding parents hostage over things like school fees and highly controversial Safety issues.

Let us show you why you are wrong by Bad Girl Bad Girl Example of union classroom teacher Molly Wray doing Our Students Wrong by violating the Laws of Our Students Privacy Rights....
Good Golly

Springfield, OH

#31230 Apr 28, 2014
Idiocracy wrote:
You pulled your kids out? Really? Highly doubt it.
I'm sure you're making this up to appear "credible".(If you even have kids)
So where do you send your kids now? What school do you find acceptable?
Typical right wing rhetoric - can't think for yourself just repeat what you hear on Fox News.
I can prove it -
We get it, you don't like POTUS, you believe there's an invisible man in the sky that wants you to behave a certain way, and if you don't you will burn in hell for eternity, you believe all taxes are bad, you believe healthcare is going to bust our budget, you believe everyone should believe what you believe (because you're right, and anyone who disagrees is just an idiot if they don't), you believe in less government ..... Etc etc,...am I on the right track?
Ok.
So - We Get It!!!!
Now- tell us your plan, but do it WITHOUT mentioning any words that reference the left wing, liberals, and don't explain that we "must undo everything that Obama has done". We get it, we will just assume undoing everything liberals have done is part of your master plan.
Get it? Understand the rules?
Great.
Be intelligent, don't use emotion, be factual, be reasonable, and show us why we are wrong.
Now - lets hear your plan.
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Good Golly! how you do rant on in a most insanely unintelligent way!

Where's the belief that "there's a highly visible hired man in the school district" that wants everyone to believe in the collective politics of forced unionism?

The answer my friend is not written in the wind blowing through the Boro.... the answer is written in Jeff Stec's contract of community engagement for S-U-R-E..... BLOWING our hard earned school tax dollars right out of our children first classrooms..... in the direction of putting MoreRon's re-emphasis back on the union first financial gain and the union employment security plan.

How can you be shown what is wrong with MoreRon's plan when you have the blind majority leading the blind?
Sure like to Bawl

Springfield, OH

#31231 Apr 28, 2014
Good Golly wrote:
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In the news recently our SHS principal stated The fact that it's anonymous doesn't really bother me because I think it says people are watching no matter what you do and even if they're not watching you, you should always be kind to someone......
Guess union classroom teacher Molly Wray didn't get the word that even if We the People are not watching you inside our schools of excellence with distinction, you should always show respect for authority of the law and never intentionally violate our Springboro students privacy rights......... Where's the Values in the Beliefs of our classroom teacher who would do that just to further personal political agenda?
Don't tell me you aren't aware of the lastest Boro fashion?

It's perfectly O.K to break student privacy laws so long as a person believes their actions are justified due to their strong faith in their respective Higher Power.
Dumbdownocracy

Springfield, OH

#31232 Apr 29, 2014
Sure like to Bawl wrote:
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Don't tell me you aren't aware of the lastest Boro fashion?
It's perfectly O.K to break student privacy laws so long as a person believes their actions are justified due to their strong faith in their respective Higher Power.
Have our professional union classroom teachers forgotten so soon the "values in the beliefs" being taught to our Springboro students--one of whom testified in the bully pulpit in the boardroom that God (Our Respective Higher Power) has no place in this country?
POTUS

Springfield, OH

#31233 Apr 30, 2014
“When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don’t really have to do anything, you just let them talk"

So- carry on....
Good Golly wrote:
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Good Golly! how you do rant on in a most insanely unintelligent way!
Where's the belief that "there's a highly visible hired man in the school district" that wants everyone to believe in the collective politics of forced unionism?
The answer my friend is not written in the wind blowing through the Boro.... the answer is written in Jeff Stec's contract of community engagement for S-U-R-E..... BLOWING our hard earned school tax dollars right out of our children first classrooms..... in the direction of putting MoreRon's re-emphasis back on the union first financial gain and the union employment security plan.
How can you be shown what is wrong with MoreRon's plan when you have the blind majority leading the blind?
Where Is Accountability

Springfield, OH

#31234 Apr 30, 2014
POTUS wrote:
“When ignorant folks want to advertise their ignorance, you don’t really have to do anything, you just let them talk"
So- carry on....
<quoted text>
... that's funny! and everybody loves a joker.... but seriously,

Union classroom teacher Molly Wray's violation of our students privacy rights had nothing to do with her Ignorance; Molly Wray was fully educated to her responsibility as a school employee to obey the rules and regulations that govern us in an educated society.

Since Springboro's Professional Educators want to use their political power and influence to openly use their students' ID for their own personal use, to execute their manical plans for social progressive changes at the expense of Springboro families; those of us who care about the future of our school children and our community, will not silently stand by while Molly Wray gets kudos in the board room, rewarded financially, with a supplemental contract as Mentor. What kind of role model of good citizenship is Mentor Molly Wray for our students, who are the futures leaders of America?

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