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Where is the Outrage

Springboro, OH

#31110 Apr 3, 2014
Wait it is for the kids wrote:
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After parents were told that students did not have to take the stupid, invasive, waste of time survey PRIDE survey once students were peeled away from parents and in the building where they were sitting ducks.
"Unforeseen issues" splayed out at board meetings yet this one was well seen. The whole HS was told to make these surveys optional yet, our children were forced to fill it out. This is abuse, telling children the PARCC is mandatory when it is not is yet again child abuse, using their protected private information for personal benefit is yet again abuse.
BTW the hysteria of "what if something happens", law suits and accidents and water-mane breaks- all to save money for adults. Come on Todd and Lee, News flash the district has insurance for everything you mentioned. Why are you telling fibs, do you really think we are all stupid?
Sadly many Springboro residents seem to be willing to sacrifice their children into oppression and despotism at the hands of our out of control Federal Government.
http://www.crazyhousereviews.com/2014/03/comm...
Wow Wow Wow

Springboro, OH

#31111 Apr 3, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Do you honestly believe if Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano had done anything illegal that the wolves would not have been howling at their doors long ago?
Ok, you asked for my opinion, here is what I think.

When they put Anderson’s name on their signs for school board, it was the most unethical political move I have ever witnessed. That move alone told me they would do anything to stay in power.

When I saw the story on TV about Mr. Petroni and his comments to a student, that move told me he is a bully and a power freak wanting to be in control.

Here is what I know; I have never used my work email for anything other than work. The only time I have ever used my work email was to receive updates from the school. I thought I was safe and those emails would not be used by anyone other than the school. About a month later, I starting receiving emails from Educate Springboro written my Mr. Petroni. As I told a few people about this happening, I was told of others that had the same thing happen to them.

So, to answer your question, yes, based on my observations, you combine a bully that uses unethical tactics with a control freak type of personality and I believe they obtained school email addresses and used them for their political gains. Once again, that is what I have heard and that is my opinion.

Now, I never accused them of doing something illegal. Do I believe what I am hearing when I hear Karen DeRosa worked on their campaign and she could of possibly gained access to those email addresses, yes. Do I believe they used those email address, yes.

Put that information on a message board that is 99% Educate Springboro followers and you get bullied and attacked.
Say It Again

Springboro, OH

#31112 Apr 3, 2014
poundsand wrote:
Is anybody here REEEALLY surprised Ms. Ray hasn't had even the mildest rebuke for the taking of private records collected for official school business and then using them for her own private agenda?
The inmates are running the asylum.
Quite Obviously Wow Wow Wow is the Union Steward for The Inmates Who Are Running the Asylum (based on these Wow Wow Wow comments posted on Topix blog).
Wow Wow Wow

Springboro, OH

#31113 Apr 3, 2014
Say It Again wrote:
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Quite Obviously Wow Wow Wow is the Union Steward for The Inmates Who Are Running the Asylum (based on these Wow Wow Wow comments posted on Topix blog).
You don't have to be a union member to be non Educate Springboro.

I am and have been anti-union my entire life.

I did identify things from ES that should appall both sides of the isle unless you are so biased you don't care about the truth.

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Brain Drain Alert

Springboro, OH

#31114 Apr 3, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
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You don't have to be a union member to be non Educate Springboro.
I am and have been anti-union my entire life.
I did identify things from ES that should appall both sides of the isle unless you are so biased you don't care about the truth.
it's ok to be open minded for Sure-just not so much that your brains fall out!

(oops -- too late for that good advice for Wow Wow Wow)

how's about we just agree to disagree - you keep your paws out of my pockets of money; and same respect will come right back at you; and we'll get along just fine, in perfect harmony of agreement that our school district doesn't need more of its taxpayers money -- taxpayers just need more accountable from our school district leaders.
paranoid revisionist

Springboro, OH

#31115 Apr 3, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, you asked for my opinion, here is what I think.
When they put Anderson’s name on their signs for school board, it was the most unethical political move I have ever witnessed. That move alone told me they would do anything to stay in power.
When I saw the story on TV about Mr. Petroni and his comments to a student, that move told me he is a bully and a power freak wanting to be in control.
Here is what I know; I have never used my work email for anything other than work. The only time I have ever used my work email was to receive updates from the school. I thought I was safe and those emails would not be used by anyone other than the school. About a month later, I starting receiving emails from Educate Springboro written my Mr. Petroni. As I told a few people about this happening, I was told of others that had the same thing happen to them.
So, to answer your question, yes, based on my observations, you combine a bully that uses unethical tactics with a control freak type of personality and I believe they obtained school email addresses and used them for their political gains. Once again, that is what I have heard and that is my opinion.
Now, I never accused them of doing something illegal. Do I believe what I am hearing when I hear Karen DeRosa worked on their campaign and she could of possibly gained access to those email addresses, yes. Do I believe they used those email address, yes.
Put that information on a message board that is 99% Educate Springboro followers and you get bullied and attacked.
There sure are a hellava lot of "I believes" going on in this post!
This begs the question...
In order to justify the breaking of state and federal student privacy laws, how many "I believes" does the average person need to conjure up in their mind?
Thanks so much for providing that answer!
MSA guilty consciences

Springboro, OH

#31116 Apr 3, 2014
for the kids wrote:
<quoted text>
Come on Petrey put the kids first for once. Spend $12,000 to get kids reading not on your adult friend to help this admin stick it to us. When does this board of education listen to the people in Springboro themselves? Why were they elected? Were they elected to hire an outsider, buddy to Petrey, marketer for levies, to manipulate facts, "convince us that we want more taxes? How stupid do you think we are Petrey, Malone, Anderson and Stuckey? If you can't do your job why did you run and why do we pay you nearly $150,000 in slaary and benefits?
Stop spending our money on your buddies and start spending it on our kids.
News alert this community is struggling to make ends meet and are highly offended by your manipulations. Put these kids first again not your pockets and friends.
Earlier this evening it was quite apropos that Charles Anderson broke for a brief recess in order to allow S.I. students and their parents to get up and leave. With all those parents, and all the 6th grade puppy-dog-eyes out of the room, voting to pilfer a quarter million dollars out of the general fund must've been a lot easier for MS&A to stomach.

Mr. Petroni, thanks for your valiant attempt in attempting to attain a sensible compromise.

If Boro sports gets $250,000 it's logical equal capital be devoted to student education needs. The money to Boro athletics is MSA's payback to Boro Boosters for pain and suffering they endured, not unlike Boro administrators feeling sorry for Molly Wray after she'd received her (ahem) "punishment".

You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand what's going on. Four months ago this district forecasted no need for a levy until at least 2017. What Malone Stuckey and Anderson are doing is classic liberal politics - create perceived needs, then proceed to fill these perceived needs by wasting money . Boro athletes and band members will benefit from this campaign payback but only by pennies on the dollar. The lion's share is going to end up in increased salaries and benefits for coaches.. plus extra cash for whoever they might need to pay off.

Jeff Stec's involvement is part of it too. Stec is all about Obviously this is part of MSA's set-up to create a "perceived need" for a levy by having as many "stewards" as possible dream up what-do-you-want-Springboro-to -be like-in-10-years "wish-lists" !!

$250,000 being pulled from the general fund is part of MSA's and Petrey's overall plan to spend the budget 'til the budget breaks. This is the precise opposite of Children First. Throughout 2014, for lots of reasons less than efficient, and not-so-much directly relating to our childrens' educations, money from Boro's general fund is going to disapper fro sight faster than a scalded dog.
Precisely Watson

Dayton, OH

#31117 Apr 4, 2014
MSA guilty consciences wrote:
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This is the precise opposite of Children First. Throughout 2014, for lots of reasons less than efficient, and not-so-much directly relating to our childrens' educations, money from Boro's general fund is going to disapper fro sight faster than a scalded dog.
Good points. I am not at all surprised by your final comment. In fact, it's exactly what I expected to happen from this newly elected union-first school board. Say goodbye to "children first" budgeting!

How long until we hear the school district needs more new money?

How long until we hear threats to cut services?

How long until we hear threats to raise pay to participate fees, as well as a host of other onerous threats?

Bottom line ... how long before the new levy advertising campaign starts?
Last Man Standing

Springboro, OH

#31118 Apr 4, 2014
Precisely Watson wrote:
<quoted text>
Good points. I am not at all surprised by your final comment. In fact, it's exactly what I expected to happen from this newly elected union-first school board. Say goodbye to "children first" budgeting!
How long until we hear the school district needs more new money?
How long until we hear threats to cut services?
How long until we hear threats to raise pay to participate fees, as well as a host of other onerous threats?
Bottom line ... how long before the new levy advertising campaign starts?
For S-U-R-E Number One For the Money "Jeff Stec Advertising Campaign" has been in effect since Mr. Petrey's Renewed Vision Presentation at the February 1, 2014, BOE workshop meeting. Mr. Petrey has taken total control of our taxpayer-funded $50 million school budget; and is telling us that our School Superintendent has no "Mission of Vision" and has now employed Jeff Stec to engage our Springboro Community of Unionism in "stating the Beliefs, Mission and Vision for Springboro Community City Schools."

The Dirty Deed of Board Votes 4-1 in favor of Jeff Stec has been signed, sealed and delivered in the Board room April 3, 2014; and the SEA War of Words Against Springboro Families and Taxpaying Homeowners is "Fully Blessed."

FOR THE RECORD: check the school website under Board of Education heading:
www.Springboro.K12.oh.us

Subject

4.7 Approval of Agreement with Jeff Stec for Community Facilitation Services

Meeting

Apr 3, 2014 - SPRINGBORO BOARD OF EDUCATION MEETING

Category

4. Superintendent's Report

Type

Action

Recommended Action

Request: Approval of Agreement with Jeff Stec for Community Facilitation Services.


File Attachments

STEC Agreement.pdf (72 KB)

Motion & Voting

Request: Approval of Agreement with Jeff Stec for Community Facilitation Services.

Motion by Ron Malone, second by Dave Stuckey.

Final Resolution: Motion Carries

Yea: Charles Anderson, Ron Malone, David F Petroni, Dave Stuckey

Nay: Jim N Rigano

MoreRon Status Quo

Springboro, OH

#31119 Apr 4, 2014
MSA guilty consciences wrote:
<quoted text>
Earlier this evening it was quite apropos that Charles Anderson broke for a brief recess in order to allow S.I. students and their parents to get up and leave. With all those parents, and all the 6th grade puppy-dog-eyes out of the room, voting to pilfer a quarter million dollars out of the general fund must've been a lot easier for MS&A to stomach.
Mr. Petroni, thanks for your valiant attempt in attempting to attain a sensible compromise.
If Boro sports gets $250,000 it's logical equal capital be devoted to student education needs. The money to Boro athletics is MSA's payback to Boro Boosters for pain and suffering they endured, not unlike Boro administrators feeling sorry for Molly Wray after she'd received her (ahem) "punishment".
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand what's going on. Four months ago this district forecasted no need for a levy until at least 2017. What Malone Stuckey and Anderson are doing is classic liberal politics - create perceived needs, then proceed to fill these perceived needs by wasting money . Boro athletes and band members will benefit from this campaign payback but only by pennies on the dollar. The lion's share is going to end up in increased salaries and benefits for coaches.. plus extra cash for whoever they might need to pay off.
Jeff Stec's involvement is part of it too. Stec is all about Obviously this is part of MSA's set-up to create a "perceived need" for a levy by having as many "stewards" as possible dream up what-do-you-want-Springboro-to -be like-in-10-years "wish-lists" !!
$250,000 being pulled from the general fund is part of MSA's and Petrey's overall plan to spend the budget 'til the budget breaks. This is the precise opposite of Children First. Throughout 2014, for lots of reasons less than efficient, and not-so-much directly relating to our childrens' educations, money from Boro's general fund is going to disapper fro sight faster than a scalded dog.
There were no guilty MSA consciences among Union First Board Members (to the detriment of our Children First) Charles Anderson, Ron Malone and Dave Stuckey in the April 3, 2014 board votes in favor of Jeff Stec's Waste of taxpayers time and money; only proverbial wisdom of words found in Proverbs 26:11: "Like a dog that returns to its vomit is a fool who reverts to his folly."
Question

Detroit, MI

#31120 Apr 4, 2014
MSA guilty consciences wrote:
<quoted text>
Earlier this evening it was quite apropos that Charles Anderson broke for a brief recess in order to allow S.I. students and their parents to get up and leave. With all those parents, and all the 6th grade puppy-dog-eyes out of the room, voting to pilfer a quarter million dollars out of the general fund must've been a lot easier for MS&A to stomach.
Mr. Petroni, thanks for your valiant attempt in attempting to attain a sensible compromise.
If Boro sports gets $250,000 it's logical equal capital be devoted to student education needs. The money to Boro athletics is MSA's payback to Boro Boosters for pain and suffering they endured, not unlike Boro administrators feeling sorry for Molly Wray after she'd received her (ahem) "punishment".
You don't need to be a rocket scientist to understand what's going on. Four months ago this district forecasted no need for a levy until at least 2017. What Malone Stuckey and Anderson are doing is classic liberal politics - create perceived needs, then proceed to fill these perceived needs by wasting money . Boro athletes and band members will benefit from this campaign payback but only by pennies on the dollar. The lion's share is going to end up in increased salaries and benefits for coaches.. plus extra cash for whoever they might need to pay off.
Jeff Stec's involvement is part of it too. Stec is all about Obviously this is part of MSA's set-up to create a "perceived need" for a levy by having as many "stewards" as possible dream up what-do-you-want-Springboro-to -be like-in-10-years "wish-lists" !!
$250,000 being pulled from the general fund is part of MSA's and Petrey's overall plan to spend the budget 'til the budget breaks. This is the precise opposite of Children First. Throughout 2014, for lots of reasons less than efficient, and not-so-much directly relating to our childrens' educations, money from Boro's general fund is going to disapper fro sight faster than a scalded dog.
The 250k being "pulled" is just part of the money the old regime pilfered from the sports account to pad the general fund.
Crickets

Detroit, MI

#31121 Apr 4, 2014
Question wrote:
<quoted text>Has Ms. Wray be formally charged with said broken law?
No response?
truth to power

Springboro, OH

#31122 Apr 4, 2014
Question wrote:
<quoted text>Has Ms. Wray be formally charged with said broken law?
The following is an exerpt from a Springboro schools public document dated 1/27/14:

"...As you are aware, Ms. Wray unfortunately decided to use protected student information under R.C.§3319.321 and FERPA 20 USC 1232g for personal use. The Administration of the Springboro Community City School District discussed this matter with Ms. Wray and disciplined Ms. Wray in the matter they believed was appropriate. Further, Ms. Wray’s impermissible use of protected student information..."

Very truly yours,

Terrah Floyd, Treasurer

__________

Any other questions?
accountability

Springboro, OH

#31123 Apr 4, 2014
Question wrote:
<quoted text> The 250k being "pulled" is just part of the money the old regime pilfered from the sports account to pad the general fund.
WHY did Kohls Petroni & Rigano make that decision?
They made that decision because key levels of fiscal accountability had disappeared from Boro Boosters in the wake of the Harves scandal. The board and top district admins knew the truth, well before the story broke in the papers about Springboro coaches funneling summer camp money thru their personal bank accounts.

It's all about accountability, and the lack thereof.
Last night, Springboro as a community witnessed plenty of "lack thereof".
BoroKidz indoctrination

Springboro, OH

#31124 Apr 4, 2014
Where is the Outrage wrote:
<quoted text>
Sadly many Springboro residents seem to be willing to sacrifice their children into oppression and despotism at the hands of our out of control Federal Government.
http://www.crazyhousereviews.com/2014/03/comm...
In my estimation the root problem is twofold...

1) Concerning education, there is lots of abject apathy within this, and other communities.
2) There's also a significant number of Springboro educators who are themselves brainwashed and indoctrinated into Obama's style of liberal-socialism, even though a certain number of them go out of their way to publically label themselves as being conservative.

Last's evening's board meeting presentations by S.I. students were quite impressive. Regardless of the side of the fence you're on, every citizen of this district has a lot to be proud of in terms of where Springboro schools is right now.

What was the terrible irony of last evening? The presentations by 6th grade S.I. students were done in front of 3 newly elected board members who have an agenda that involves little to nothing to do with continuing the level of excellence demonstrated by the 6th graders. Unlike the previous BOE, the 3 newly elected board majority doesn't abide by Children First philosophy. Without a shadow of a doubt, last evening proved Malone Stuckey and Anderson are together in lock-step in a "Paybacks First, Children Second" philosophy.

The date of April 3, 2014 will be written into Springboro history as the date student union indoctrination turned 180 degrees, then marched back into the Boro boardroom. One of the students from S.I. did a presentation involving "S.T.A.R.T", describing her successes and setbacks, and how..."...Common Core had helped her to do better in math..."

Regarding which S.I. teacher / admin that coached this 6th grader to use the term "Common Core" in her presentation, your guess is every bit as good as mine.

Perhaps the same S.I.teacher / admin might explain to this student as well as the rest of the 6th grade class the truth about Common Core? Perhaps they might explain about how Common Core is designed by liberals to tear control of public education away from local control, and their parents? Perhaps they might explain Common Core is designed by liberals to centralize the public school curriculum of all 50 states to the control of a pack of Washington D.C. Obama-loving bureaucrats?

None of this truth about Common Core will ever be spoken to our kids... unless it's is done by Boro parents. Why? Because many of our children's teachers have already bought the lies. They've already swallowed the koolade. Teachers who've resisted this type of indoctrination are likely to be in the minority. They're likely to be too intimidated by their brainwashed, often pro-union peers to speak up to their students out about the actual truth regarding Common Core.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#31125 Apr 6, 2014
Crickets wrote:
<quoted text>No response?
Who would have the standing to press charges? The school district, but I doubt that would happen as she is protected by the union and a union controlled board of education.

Privacy and confidentiality are situational terms and concepts that only apply when they can be used to further the goals and aspirations of the union and its minions.
Answer

Springboro, OH

#31126 Apr 6, 2014
Question wrote:
<quoted text>Has Ms. Wray be formally charged with said broken law?
Previous post
"There has been 2 crimes committed in connection to Mollygate...
1) Molly Wray's violation of state and Federal student privacy laws
2) Springboro Schools administration not suspending Molly Wray

__________

The following is a slice of a Springboro schools document which is available to the general public...

"...Ms. Wray unfortunately decided to use protected student information under R.C.§3319.321 and FERPA 20 USC 1232g for personal use. The Administration of the Springboro Community City School District discussed this matter with Ms. Wray and disciplined Ms. Wray in the matter they believed was appropriate..."

Terrah Floyd, Treasurer
Springboro Community City Schools

______

So what was the manner of discipline Todd Petrey and Lee Vincent believed was "appropriate" for Molly Wray's violation of state and federal student privacy laws? A verbal lecture and a "letter of understanding" in Molly Wray's personnel file, to be removed after six months? For a flagrant offense involving a health teacher who lured recent Boro alumni to go to her personal website by informing them about a.... "really important election for the school board".... only to have web-browsers discover her personal endorsement of Malone Stuckey & Anderson....... UNBELIEVABLE!

One of the first things every higher-level administrator of any given school district has to understand is the decisions they make set examples / precedents for their subordinates to follow. This is true not only in decision-making, but also in setting discipline patterns. In the exerpt (above), the treasurer of Springboro Community City Schools, Terrah Floyd, confirms that Springboro high school health teacher violated both state of Ohio as well as federal FERPA student privacy law.

In receiving a "letter of understanding" to be removed after six months, Molly Wray received nothing more than a slap on the wrist for her flagrant violation of trust. In being weak in their discipline, Springboro administrators have not only set a poor example directly in front of the eyes of Springboro High School students, Springboro admins have also set a terrible precedent for our students' and alumnis' privacy to be flagrantly abused and misused again in the future."

It is hard to believe this is the only time this has happened and we should know who this information went to and who else used this ill-gotten list.

Does Acorn have the private information of our students? Does the Democratic party, as Stephanie Bindeman is on the Democratic Central Committee, does she now have this list of our voting students?
What other information has been misused to work over our kids?
Is this the way they got the 99%ers to rally?
I am outraged by this information, aren't all of you?
Can someone call the board of elections and the prosecutor?
MoreRon Status Quo

Springboro, OH

#31127 Apr 6, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't have to be a union member to be non Educate Springboro.
I am and have been anti-union my entire life.
I did identify things from ES that should appall both sides of the isle unless you are so biased you don't care about the truth.
Finally Wow Wow Wow uncovers a big truth that those of us on All Sides agree upon:
"You don't have to be a union member to be non Educate Springboro."
That's True For S-U-R-E.

You only have to be Against Children First Budgeting's Vision of Reform, doing what's right for our school children and community, to be NON-Educate Springboro.

And where is fiscal integrity and priority of highest academic achievement for ALL students in our MSA "moreron's status quo" of reinstating all the failed practices of the past?
Precisely Watson

Springboro, OH

#31128 Apr 6, 2014
MoreRon Status Quo wrote:
<quoted text>
Finally Wow Wow Wow uncovers a big truth that those of us on All Sides agree upon:
"You don't have to be a union member to be non Educate Springboro."
That's True For S-U-R-E.
You only have to be Against Children First Budgeting's Vision of Reform, doing what's right for our school children and community, to be NON-Educate Springboro.
And where is fiscal integrity and priority of highest academic achievement for ALL students in our MSA "moreron's status quo" of reinstating all the failed practices of the past?
Th Baker regime lives on. Version 2.0, code named 'Malone' promises enhanced features and more of the same updates that union-first lovers have come to love and adore.

Stay tuned ...

Updates to come - the school district needs more new money

Updates to come - new threats to cut services

Updates to come - pay to play participate fees to increase

And more!
Not so Little Richard

Springboro, OH

#31129 Apr 6, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
While you are on your knees and praying for me, open the Bible and see what is says about passing judgement.
I asked a couple questions and quickly I have been bullied and judged. Is this a pattern from your side of the political isle? If you knew me I think you would find I am a very nice person. Why the hatred? I know I am a Christian, you state that you are a Christian. My opinion is different than yours but please do not attack me. Not how Children of God should act towards one another. I will not treat you that way!
I am very interested in some transparency from both sides of the isle. Not asking you to commit a crime, just tell the truth or start asking questions.
Did Karen DeRosa provide district email address to Educate Springboro? If not, how did they seem to get email address that are possibly from when community members that signed up for the Springboro District Updates?
Any help would be appreciated. If Educate Springboro obtained email address illegally, would you want to seek the truth?
Thank you and have a Blessed day.
<quoted text>
Good Golly Miss Molly !
Sure like to bawl !

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