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Springboro, OH

#30852 Mar 2, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
I raise serious issues, real concerns, actual points of contention in the debate and this is the best you can come up with on the subjects.
Way to advance the discourse.
Why do you not address the points I raised and tell us why you think these are bad ideas?
1) Balanced budgets with surpluses
2) Renewal levy that reduced our taxes,
3) Reduced pay to participate fee
4) Reduced school fees
5) Restored busing
6) Restored building maintenance program that maintains our property
7) Money and resources finally directed towards our gifted and early intervention programs in elementary schools
8) Added an ACT class
9) Placed true emphasis on early college credit programs through the high school
10) Balancing our class sizes
11) Strengthening our curriculum
12) Upgrading our technology plan with 1100 new computers
13) Laptops to every teacher
14) Wireless plan in every building that ties it all together.
15) And of course I forgot the last board's Budget and Finance Committee led by David Petroni and Jim Rigano that finally brought to light the long term looting of the Boosters that was allowed to fester under the watchful eye of Mr. Malone and Mr Holtrey.
I may be full of scatological reserves, but facts remain facts.
Bravo! Bravo!

These facts are enough to get me started In Appreciation of our previous board's fiscal integrity in the direction of financial sustainability through the year 2017; giving back to Springboro families a slight reduction in renewal levy; while celebrating in appreciation more money for every school employee!

Applause! Applause!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30853 Mar 2, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
I raise serious issues, real concerns, actual points of contention in the debate and this is the best you can come up with on the subjects.
Way to advance the discourse.
Why do you not address the points I raised and tell us why you think these are bad ideas?
1) Balanced budgets with surpluses
2) Renewal levy that reduced our taxes,
3) Reduced pay to participate fee
4) Reduced school fees
5) Restored busing
6) Restored building maintenance program that maintains our property
7) Money and resources finally directed towards our gifted and early intervention programs in elementary schools
8) Added an ACT class
9) Placed true emphasis on early college credit programs through the high school
10) Balancing our class sizes
11) Strengthening our curriculum
12) Upgrading our technology plan with 1100 new computers
13) Laptops to every teacher
14) Wireless plan in every building that ties it all together.
15) And of course I forgot the last board's Budget and Finance Committee led by David Petroni and Jim Rigano that finally brought to light the long term looting of the Boosters that was allowed to fester under the watchful eye of Mr. Malone and Mr Holtrey.
I may be full of scatological reserves, but facts remain facts.
My apologies, I forgot a couple

16) Raises for the first time in 5 years for all classified employees (my thanks to Ms. Bellar)
17) Raises to base pay and step increases for our staff

You can thank the previous board for all of those accomplishments, including the teacher's raises.
Thanks Indeed

Maineville, OH

#30854 Mar 2, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
My apologies, I forgot a couple
16) Raises for the first time in 5 years for all classified employees (my thanks to Ms. Bellar)
17) Raises to base pay and step increases for our staff
You can thank the previous board for all of those accomplishments, including the teacher's raises.
You also forgot
18) Choosing Todd Petrey as our new superintendent
19) Keeping Dr. Malone on staff as Principal through the 2013 school year.
And most importantly...
20) Helping awake a community that saw over 5,000 voters throw their support behind and elect Mr. Anderson, Dr. Malone & Mr. Stukey to the board!
Yes, thanks previous board, thanks indeed.
The More You Know

Maineville, OH

#30855 Mar 2, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
We certainly could tolerate no more balanced budgets with surpluses, any more levies that reduce our taxes, reduced pay to participate fees, reduced school fees, restored busing, building maintenance that maintains our property, money and resources finally directed towards our gifted and early intervention programs in elementary schools, adding an ACT class, a true emphasis on early college credit programs through the high school, balancing our class sizes, and strengthening our curriculum, while upgrading our technology plan with 1100 new computers, laptops to every teacher, and a wireless plan in every building that ties it all together.
You are right, what could we possibly have been thinking to allow the previous board to do all of those things?
Don't know Doug, but I know there are over 5,000 voters you can ask. Wait, you tried that with signs before the election to no avail.

In a capitalist system the more experienced, better professionals should get more money. Those who are more qualified are told to go after as much money as the market will bear. Why else would they be behind the CEO's of corporations making millions?

By that logic in order to get the best teachers you would have to PAY MORE in order to get ones that would take our kids back into "proficiency".

I still can't understand why the Tea Party is for CEO's of companies banking millions but at the same time they are against the teachers making as much money as they can.

I guess when you believe in capitalism it's a pick and choose game.
Encore

Springboro, OH

#30856 Mar 2, 2014
Thanks Indeed wrote:
<quoted text>
You also forgot
18) Choosing Todd Petrey as our new superintendent
19) Keeping Dr. Malone on staff as Principal through the 2013 school year.
And most importantly...
20) Helping awake a community that saw over 5,000 voters throw their support behind and elect Mr. Anderson, Dr. Malone & Mr. Stukey to the board!
Yes, thanks previous board, thanks indeed.
Don't forget MollyGate!

Come listen to the story of teacher Molly Wray
Who met her students at the door with a smile every day!
Till when one day, the students’ names lost their faces;
‘Cause Molly Wray was secure in high political places,
She collectively gathered her students’ records of ID;
Insanely supporting the political campaign of MSA!

Go Molly! Go Molly!
Encore

Springboro, OH

#30857 Mar 2, 2014
teaching R kids 2 cheat wrote:
According to a district document, Springboro high school health teacher Molly Wray used contact information improperly obtained from old parent permission slips to send a mass email to Springboro High School graduates last August, encouraging them to vote in the upcoming school board election. She also encouraged the graduates to access her Facebook page, where she posted endorsements for three candidates opposing the conservative candidates.
Springboro Treasurer Terrah Floyd acknowledges that the student information Wray used to send her email was protected under Ohio state law and the federal government’s Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA). In other words, Wray illegally copied email addresses from confidential district records.
Despite the improper use of protected information for personal and political reasons, the only disciplinary action Springboro school leaders apparently took against Wray was to place a “letter of understanding” in her personnel file that gently reminds the veteran educator to maintain a “professional” relationship with former students.
Wray’s email to students last August mentioned three separate reasons for writing. The first two involved school and alumni news. The third item – which accounted for 50 percent of the email – dealt with a district levy renewal vote and the hotly contested Nov. 5 school board races.
“It is VERY important to vote on November 5th if you are still a Springboro resident,” Wray wrote, according to a copy of the email provided to EAGnews.“YOUR VOTE COUNTS and just may be the difference maker on November 5th.”
The veteran educator then provided graduates with step-by-step instructions for when, where and how they could register to vote in the election. She also encouraged readers to “share this with your Springboro contacts so that (they) see it, use it, and share it too! THANKS!!!”
While Wray stopped short of endorsing any candidates in the August email, she did encourage former students to look her up on Facebook, where she posted two items on the day before the election formally endorsing the three candidates who went on to win their races.
After the results were announced on election night, Wray posted a “thank you” to Springboro voters for electing the three candidates and passing the levy renewal.
District leaders placed a “letter of understanding” in Wray’s personnel file late last month that very gently reminded the veteran educator that district employees are encouraged “to maintain professional relationships with prior students” and “to ensure that the individuals contacted have given permission for you to contact them.”
District officials apparently view the email as a harmless reminder containing a class reunion announcement and a nonpartisan reminder to vote in the November election. They obviously saw no harm or foul when she encouraged the potential voters to refer to her Facebook site for more details – or recommendations.
Go Molly! Go Molly!
just loving some non partisan MSA majority living way down low in the boro!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30858 Mar 3, 2014
Thanks Indeed wrote:
<quoted text>
You also forgot
18) Choosing Todd Petrey as our new superintendent

Yes, thanks previous board, thanks indeed.
You are correct, replacing Mr. Lolli with Mr. Petrey was a step forward.

19) Tammy Strittenberger and Lee Vincent and Jeff Madden in the central office as opposed to
Sandra Warner and George Long.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30859 Mar 3, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>

In a capitalist system the more experienced, better professionals should get more money. Those who are more qualified are told to go after as much money as the market will bear. Why else would they be behind the CEO's of corporations making millions?
By that logic in order to get the best teachers you would have to PAY MORE in order to get ones that would take our kids back into "proficiency".
I still can't understand why the Tea Party is for CEO's of companies banking millions but at the same time they are against the teachers making as much money as they can.
I guess when you believe in capitalism it's a pick and choose game.
Where to start, CEO's who make MILLIONS as heads of companies that make BILLIONS are chosen and compensated by the people whose money he/she is managing. The shareholders choice is one of free will, not government enforcement.

The BEST teachers should by all means be paid more than mediocre of bad teachers, on that we categorically agree.

The union, however, does not allow such heresy in terms of compensation. In the union's eyes all teachers are equal and do equal amounts of work and all deserve the same pay.

Allocating resources to benefit the greatest number of children possible would most likely precluded such compensation mysteries as to why we have $80,000 grade school PE teachers working 185 days per year and $45,000 A/P Calculus teachers working the same amount

Why does society pay a heart surgeon more than a retail manager at Tire America? Supply and demand.

Your second point is if we did hire the BEST teachers to get back to PROFICIENCY (which as we all know is failing by any reasonable measure), who would you fire in this district to make room for the BEST?

I am all for people rising to the greatest heights they strive for in this lifetime. The issue is by your overly simplistic definition could be applied to the same analogy as why don't we pay grocery store baggers as much as teachers?

Some of them as you well know also possess college diplomas.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30861 Mar 3, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct, replacing Mr. Lolli with Mr. Petrey was a step forward.
19) Tammy Strittenberger and Lee Vincent and Jeff Madden in the central office as opposed to
Sandra Warner and George Long.
20) Lest we forget, Terrah Floyd in treasurer office rather than the oft befuddled and cackling Tracey Jarvis.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30862 Mar 3, 2014
21) Kyle Martin as principal at Springboro Intermediate

22) Jeff Blakely as principal at the Junior High

23) Tina Daniels as principal at the High School

Let's see what our scores look like in three years.

The past board reset the entire landscape with new, fresh, and energetic individuals in nearly every leadership position in the district.
hiding behind the cross

Springboro, OH

#30863 Mar 3, 2014
Encore wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't forget MollyGate!
Come listen to the story of teacher Molly Wray
Who met her students at the door with a smile every day!
Till when one day, the students’ names lost their faces;
‘Cause Molly Wray was secure in high political places,
She collectively gathered her students’ records of ID;
Insanely supporting the political campaign of MSA!
Go Molly! Go Molly!
The illegal and unethical actions of Molly Wray before last fall's election epitomize what the MSA campaign was all about starting from day number one of their collective campaign.....
perpetuating a long history of union-influenced misuse-of-power in the core of this district's administration as well as with many of its teachers.

Molly Wray response:

"This is full of inaccuracies and is very biased, poor reporting. It's sad that the facts are slanted in order to create a story that will support your website's cause. Because I am a woman of faith, I trust the apostle Paul's words that reassure me that...'all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose'. I trust you believe the same and will pray that in everything you post in the future you will consider whether it is in the service of God. If you, in good faith and strong conviction of the truth, trust that what you report is accurate and truthful, not self-serving, then I am in full support of you as a brother. As for now, I feel like a brother and sister in Christ have turned on me for their own gain, not Christ's."
___

"The Devil lurks behind the cross."

Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra
1547-1616

___

Whether or not Ms. Wray was given punishment by Lee Vincent and Todd Petrey is immaterial, and does not dilute the fact that Wray broke FERPA federal privacy law.
Early last fall, months before the election, Wray illegally used old district permission slips in order to access names and emails of recent Springboro alumni, only to then steer them toward Wray's personal website, where the campaign of Malone Stuckey and Anderson was promoted heavily.
Wow Wow Wow

Springboro, OH

#30864 Mar 3, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
20) Lest we forget, Terrah Floyd in treasurer office rather than the oft befuddled and cackling Tracey Jarvis.
I thought the old board hired Tracey Jarvis?

Also, where did Educate Springboro get all of their email address? Some how I signed up for the principal update and Educate Springboro started sending me their emails as well?

Doug, will you please answer these two questions?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30865 Mar 3, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
<quoted text>
I thought the old board hired Tracey Jarvis?
Also, where did Educate Springboro get all of their email address? Some how I signed up for the principal update and Educate Springboro started sending me their emails as well?
Doug, will you please answer these two questions?
Negative on the only one question you asked.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30866 Mar 3, 2014
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
<quoted text>

Also, where did Educate Springboro get all of their email address? Some how I signed up for the principal update and Educate Springboro started sending me their emails as well?
Doug, will you please answer these two questions?
Educate Springboro is in no way affiliated with the school district. That is the purview of a few teachers, administrators, coaches, and Springboro Education Association operatives.
The More You Know

Maineville, OH

#30867 Mar 3, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
21) Kyle Martin as principal at Springboro Intermediate
22) Jeff Blakely as principal at the Junior High
23) Tina Daniels as principal at the High School
Let's see what our scores look like in three years.
The past board reset the entire landscape with new, fresh, and energetic individuals in nearly every leadership position in the district.
24) Keeping Dr. Malone on staff as Principal through the 2013 school year.
And most importantly...
25) Helping awake a community that saw over 5,000 voters throw their support behind and elect Mr. Anderson, Dr. Malone & Mr. Stukey to the board!
The More You Know

Maineville, OH

#30868 Mar 3, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Educate Springboro is in no way affiliated with the school district. That is the purview of a few teachers, administrators, coaches, and Springboro Education Association operatives.
"We’re glad you’re here. This blog is the place for authoritative information directly from Springboro School Board Members Jim Rigano and David Petroni." - http://educatespringboro.org/...

Not affiliated, but DIRECTLY connected.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30869 Mar 4, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
"We’re glad you’re here. This blog is the place for authoritative information directly from Springboro School Board Members Jim Rigano and David Petroni." - http://educatespringboro.org/...
Not affiliated, but DIRECTLY connected.
Do they have any news on the State Audit report, the one that everyone is so eager to bury and back pedal from?

The "everybody else does it" defense did not work with Mom for a good reason.

Who is Mr. Holtrey telling the truth to when asked about summer camps?

The Dayton Daily News report who he tells:

Q – What about the summer camp accusation?

A - Somebody made an accusation to the state auditor’s office that coaches were running camps (and keeping profits) and that was fraudulent.(The school board) won’t even share with you what the accusation was.… It was not an investigation. They were following up on an accusation that in my view was a flagrant accusation with the intent of causing problems that there was never any truth to.

Or the state audit investigator who Mr. Holtrey tells

State Auditor Report
Springboro Community City School District
December 12, 2013

"1. Springboro Boys Basketball Camps
A bank account was maintained by Troy Holtrey, the former Springboro High School head basketball coach and former ATHLETIC DIRECTOR who operated the camp. Mr. Holtrey indicated that he had been operating camps for approximately 20 years. He believes he opened the account in 2004/05 per the request of the Superintendent. Prior to operating his own bank account the camps financial activity was accounted for by the Springboro Boosters. Mr. Holtrey indicated that after he had paid for all of the expenses (camp workers, t- shirts, basketballs, etc.) related to the camp, he considered any funds remaining from the fees he collected to be his stipend.

I wonder what Mr. Malone thought when he read both of these polar opposite statements?

Particularly the first one.
TV Land

Springboro, OH

#30870 Mar 4, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
24) Keeping Dr. Malone on staff as Principal through the 2013 school year.
And most importantly...
25) Helping awake a community that saw over 5,000 voters throw their support behind and elect Mr. Anderson, Dr. Malone & Mr. Stukey to the board!
Now we all know, that private business owner in Springboro and good citizen, Charles Anderson, was indeed elected as number one Springboro Board of Education member,
because of Educate Springboro's endorsement of Mr. Anderson's financial expertise and
capabilities of wise leadership.

Since the new leadership of our Board of Education MSA Team has only just begun,
community members must stay engaged in our local school government business meetings
(most of us through the TV broadcasts provided for our information) and stand firm on
holding our new MSA team accountable to conduct all Board of Education business in
an open and transparent manner before the public; within our Board of Education
policy/bylaws.

Let's stay focused on demanding that all District Committees are open to the public within the state's Sunshine Laws, which are the legal rights of all citizens. Let's stay focused on transparency and fiscal integrity in our school district's budget/finance affairs.

Our School Employees and Our Taxpaying Citizens of Springboro may differ in our individual emotional intelligence; but each citizen has a masters degree in managing our own
household budget; and each family has first responsibility to budget carefully for our
future well-being; and protect ourselves from being emotionally blackmailed by our local
government for unnecessary Tax Increases.
concerned parent

Springboro, OH

#30871 Mar 4, 2014
hiding behind the cross wrote:
<quoted text>
The illegal and unethical actions of Molly Wray before last fall's election epitomize what the MSA campaign was all about starting from day number one of their collective campaign.....
perpetuating a long history of union-influenced misuse-of-power in the core of this district's administration as well as with many of its teachers.
Molly Wray response:
"This is full of inaccuracies and is very biased, poor reporting. It's sad that the facts are slanted in order to create a story that will support your website's cause. Because I am a woman of faith, I trust the apostle Paul's words that reassure me that...'all things work together for good for those who love God and are called according to His purpose'. I trust you believe the same and will pray that in everything you post in the future you will consider whether it is in the service of God. If you, in good faith and strong conviction of the truth, trust that what you report is accurate and truthful, not self-serving, then I am in full support of you as a brother. As for now, I feel like a brother and sister in Christ have turned on me for their own gain, not Christ's."
___
"The Devil lurks behind the cross."
Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra
1547-1616
___
Whether or not Ms. Wray was given punishment by Lee Vincent and Todd Petrey is immaterial, and does not dilute the fact that Wray broke FERPA federal privacy law.
Early last fall, months before the election, Wray illegally used old district permission slips in order to access names and emails of recent Springboro alumni, only to then steer them toward Wray's personal website, where the campaign of Malone Stuckey and Anderson was promoted heavily.
The pathetic slap on the wrist Molly Wray recieved by Springboro schools administration...(a "letter of understanding" in Wray's personnel file, to be automatically removed after 6 months)... is an indication that our district's leadership feels as though they have license to put blinders on at any point in time and release information protected under Ohio state law and the federal government's Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA).
Say It Again

Springboro, OH

#30872 Mar 4, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Do they have any news on the State Audit report, the one that everyone is so eager to bury and back pedal from?
The "everybody else does it" defense did not work with Mom for a good reason.
Who is Mr. Holtrey telling the truth to when asked about summer camps?
The Dayton Daily News report who he tells:
Q – What about the summer camp accusation?
A - Somebody made an accusation to the state auditor’s office that coaches were running camps (and keeping profits) and that was fraudulent.(The school board) won’t even share with you what the accusation was.… It was not an investigation. They were following up on an accusation that in my view was a flagrant accusation with the intent of causing problems that there was never any truth to.
Or the state audit investigator who Mr. Holtrey tells
State Auditor Report
Springboro Community City School District
December 12, 2013
"1. Springboro Boys Basketball Camps
A bank account was maintained by Troy Holtrey, the former Springboro High School head basketball coach and former ATHLETIC DIRECTOR who operated the camp. Mr. Holtrey indicated that he had been operating camps for approximately 20 years. He believes he opened the account in 2004/05 per the request of the Superintendent. Prior to operating his own bank account the camps financial activity was accounted for by the Springboro Boosters. Mr. Holtrey indicated that after he had paid for all of the expenses (camp workers, t- shirts, basketballs, etc.) related to the camp, he considered any funds remaining from the fees he collected to be his stipend.
I wonder what Mr. Malone thought when he read both of these polar opposite statements?
Particularly the first one.
Worth Repeating, again and again.

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