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They already hatched

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#30291 Feb 1, 2014
Tell It Like It is wrote:
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What a waste of resources at taxpayer's expense!
Weather too cold for our students to get out to school?
Did anybody else notice around town during these schools-closed days the crowds of parents and their young children milling around in shopping malls, local restaurants,
public libraries, etc? Anybody else hear parents complaining about cabin fever and just needing to get the kids out of the house; Or hear parents complaining about their work schedules being disrupted because school employee John Pennell "feels" like it is too cold for kids to go to school?
What a bunch of wimps our Springboro school leaders are proving themselves to be! No backbone or resolution to instill the will of mind over matter! Aren't our educators supposed to be the wind beneath the wings of our students? But instead, aren't we stuck with a bunch of educators in Springboro Schools that just want to gather our students under their wings and hunker down in their comfort zone; for fear they will ruffle some feathers for S-U-R-E; and receive the same false demonization of their character, that for S-U-R-E was launched against Springboro Parent, Kelly Kohls, during the last four years of Dr.Kohls' responsible good service to our school children and community, as Board of Education elected official.
"Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work."
-Thomas Edison
Ummm, pretty sure your beloved (gag) KPR board is the one who hired the current superintendent who is ultimately responsible for making the decision about school cancellations. Man, KPR must have really sucked!
They already hatched

United States

#30292 Feb 1, 2014
Tell It Like It is wrote:
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As proven in the true history of Superintendent Gene Lolli's annual performance evaluation of Mr. Malone stating:
"Mr. Malone does demonstrate the ability to affect change, but sometimes very reluctantly. It sometimes takes numerous requests by Superintendent before changes are implemented."
"Mr. Malone needs to IMPROVE on getting request goals to the Superintendent in a timely fashion. Examples include: Requested schedule of events for delayed start at the beginning of the year, at semester, and last week and have not yet received. Also requested times and dates of all staff meetings and quarterly updates on the High Schools That Work per 2011-2012 job targets."
For the record, you can learn more about Mr. Malone's reluctance to work in cooperation
with school policies and by-laws and work closely with Parents in collecting necessary school fees. During the 2012-2013 school year, when Mr. Malone was employed as high school principal, attention was brought to public meeting that building principals had failed in their responsibility to collect school fees.(It does appear that our former principal feared losing his reputation of being insanely popular IF he acted on school policy; collecting from parents these past due student fees.) That's the way it was when Mr. Malone run our SHS in his arrogantly rude under-performing leadership.
Did you notice there is no Reluctance whatsoever in the leadership of our New SHS principal who is sending this Alarm to our students' parents who are now past due in $250,000 school fees....
Attention Parents:
School Fees are Past Due
More than $250,000 of school fees are still unpaid for the 2014-2015 year, and this directly impacts school operations. If you have paid this year's school fees, thank you.
If your child has unpaid school fees (and/or fines), there will be a student fee invoice in their report card tomorrow. In the event school fees are not paid in full or payment arrangements are not made with your school building's main office by January 31, 2014, we are required by board policy 6152 to enforce the following:
• Turn off Progress Book (Note: If you have multiple students linked to one account, that account will be turned off.) If you need assistance with Progress Book, contact your building secretary.
• Withhold report cards and credits.
• Prohibit participation in high school commencement.
• Prohibit participation in school-sponsored activities, groups, or organizations such as instrumental and interscholastic athletic programs, field day, vocal music performances, and all other programs outside the regular school day.
Accumulated unpaid fees in excess of $300 by the end of the school year will be subject to a legal fee collection process.
Once again, if you have unpaid school fees, please make immediate payment via EZ-Pay or contact your building’s main office to make payment arrangements no later than January 31, 2014.
Right, an Lolli got tired of being bullied by KPR so he left.
They already hatched

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#30293 Feb 1, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Well we know that Mr. Harves wrote checks to himself over a seven year period totaling $438,000. The prosecutor stated that was as much as they could prove because banks are only required to hold records for seven years and no one else had any other records. That comes to $62,571 per year.
Does anybody out there seriously believe that a man who is brazen enough to write checks to themselves to the tune of $62,571 per year from a non-profit organization charged with raising money for children, would be above taking cash from the bags of uncounted cash, generated throughout the year from various fund raisers, just sitting on his kitchen table?
Since no one bothered to count or verify the monies, or keep any type of records, the prosecutor could not charge the man with anything in that regard. Nor could they find any other records previous to the 7 years the banks had on record.
Mr. Harves was treasurer for the entire 13 years Mr. Malone tenure. Mr. Harves was inducted into the Springboro Hall of Fame a few short months before Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano's dogged pursuit of the truth about funding led him to give up the ghost.
Does anyone seriously believe that Mr. Harves only began his embezzlement career during the time frame the bank kept records?
Does anyone seriously believe that Mr. Harves had the moral fiber and character to resist the temptation of uncounted bags of cash sitting on his kitchen table year after year?
Why would Mr. Harves feel so secure in writing checks to himself year after year after year?
Because he knew he had nothing to fear from the administration?
Mr. Malone did not appear to exert any of his influence on the Boosters to cooperate with the Board's Budget and Finance Committee and to provide the requested financial information. In fact, Mr Malone looks as though he may have been operating in the other direction, the one of obstruction and obfuscation.
Why have we been unable to discover who nominated the treasurer of the Boosters, Mr. Harves, for inclusion in the Springboro Hall of Fame?
Why did Mr. Holtrey explain that the reason there were no IRS filings after 2005 for the Boosters was because the boosters did not raise enough money to be required to file?(The amount at that time was just $25,000 for filing requirements.)
You do the math, over a thirteen year period, that would amount to roughly $77,000 per year.
I guess Mr. Malone just wasn't close enough too notice that kind of penny ante discrepancy year after year after year.
In other words, you grossly exaggerated the amount. Ok, gotcha.
They already hatched

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#30294 Feb 1, 2014
You know everything wrote:
So you say the h.s. principal needs to work closely with the organizations....hmm, where has the new principal been?
Lol the high school students call the new principal "The Phantom" because they never see her. I sincerely hope this boards brings in better admins.
The More You Know

Springfield, OH

#30295 Feb 1, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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Why are you so uninformed yet pretend to know everything? Maney isn't even there anymore.
Maybe it's because "They already hatched" keeps talking even when there is nothing to say
that informs.

Who are "They" that already "hatched?"

Maney isn't even there anymore.... you say?

Then can you tell us here where Maney is now?

Why did Maney resign as Social Studies teacher?

Did Maney resign as SEA president and pro-levy lover of promoting over-taxing Springboro families, holding Taxpayers hostage over things like safe transportation and activity fees?

The More You Know is What we now want to know.

So, what do you know about Maney that we do not know?

Or, could it be that "They already hatched" is just pretending to know everything?
They already hatched

United States

#30296 Feb 1, 2014
proof wrote:
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Don't bother with Mr. Wiedeman. He is a hypocrite as has been illustrated many times. He holds a much higher standard for others than he does himself. He counsels others not to call people names and attack others, yet he attacks Dr. Malone relentlessly. He tells people to provide proof of their comments, yet does not provide any proof of his own comments. He throws out numbers such as the $1,000,000 like it is fact, when he himself stated the prosecutor could not PROVE any more than what Mr. Harves was charged with. If you repeat something enough, even without PROOF, he believes it makes it fact.
So true! Nobody really listens to Weaselman anymore except himself, KPR, and a few other crazy people.
They already hatched

United States

#30297 Feb 1, 2014
historian wrote:
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and millions voted for Obama...point being, the one that wins isn't necessarily the right choice.
Very true, as demonstrated when Kohls, Petroni, and Rigano managed to win.
They already hatched

United States

#30298 Feb 1, 2014
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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I it is all about efficiently and effectively educating ALL of the children of this district to the utmost of the children's potential.
It costs money to educate our children, 80% of our school district budget is dedicated towards human resources. How we utilize that expenditure to maximize the amount of knowledge our children receive is the issue.
For all of everyone's protestations about this being for the kids, this is not an altruistic calling, NO ONE is working for free in education.
What we do expect is that our tax dollars are spent with the well being of the children's education first and foremost in budgeting our scarce tax dollars.
Reward our teachers who do outstanding work, and punitively reward those whose performance is substandard.
No offense, but I don't think you know the first thing about education. All you care about is your taxes, which I'm not even disagreeing with. Leave the education of our kids to the people who know what the hell they're doing. Recognize that you are not one of these people. You are not an expert in this area, not even close. Leave it to the people who know what they're doing. Yes, people can care about kids, care about teachers, care about the bottom line, etc. at the same time. Recognize your limitations and run your mouth accordingly.
They already hatched

United States

#30299 Feb 1, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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Maybe it's because "They already hatched" keeps talking even when there is nothing to say
that informs.
Who are "They" that already "hatched?"
Maney isn't even there anymore.... you say?
Then can you tell us here where Maney is now?
Why did Maney resign as Social Studies teacher?
Did Maney resign as SEA president and pro-levy lover of promoting over-taxing Springboro families, holding Taxpayers hostage over things like safe transportation and activity fees?
The More You Know is What we now want to know.
So, what do you know about Maney that we do not know?
Or, could it be that "They already hatched" is just pretending to know everything?
Unlike you, I wouldn't post anything that I don't know to be true. I feel like I'm often the last to find things out, so I assumed it was common knowledge.
The More You Know

Springfield, OH

#30300 Feb 1, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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Thank you, Lord! Well, it doesn't matter if they run or not - the result would be the same. Just glad that we will have to see and hear her less. Great news! Let us rejoice!
We can thank the Lord that "when one door closes in ones's opportunity to serve others; another door opens, often with greater responsibility! Springboro parent and good neighbor, Kelly Kohls, is just the kind of public servant that will always have a work to do in service to others, doing what's right, whether or not it is the popular thing with the established status quo. That's why no matter which way political parties and elections go, Kelly Kohls will always be a winner.

We can give thanks that a door of opportunity, of greater responsibility, in our local community is now open to Kelly. Let's Rejoice and spread the great news! It could be that we now have the benefit of hearing more of what our former BOE president Kelly Kohls had to say to Springboro Families; because this is exactly what we want to hear from our current BOE members (including Ron Malone):

Kohls explained,“We have listened to our community. We are committed to providing a quality education, being fiscally prudent and being as fair to our employees as is possible in these difficult economic times. The board is also driven by a ‘Children First’ budget that takes into account all aspects of our children’s education.”

Now those are Inspiring and Encouraging Words for the future of our school children and community! Thanks, Kelly!
The More You Know

Springfield, OH

#30301 Feb 1, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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Unlike you, I wouldn't post anything that I don't know to be true. I feel like I'm often the last to find things out, so I assumed it was common knowledge.
So? If you know something to be true, then why not tell us the truth?

Forget about your FEELINGS and just state the facts.

We know that it is a fact that Scott Maney has resigned in the middle of the school year and walked out on his Social Studies classroom. We know that a replacement has been hired for our children's classroom.

We DON'T know WHY Scott Maney chose to walk out on our kids in the middle of the school year. We DON'T know IF Scott Maney has left our school district as a Union Employee.

So? Do you know if Scott Maney is still President of the SEA Or, Do you know if
Scott Maney is now employed in another school district?

Seems like a simple question to ask of "They already hatched." What say ye??
They already hatched

United States

#30302 Feb 1, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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We can thank the Lord that "when one door closes in ones's opportunity to serve others; another door opens, often with greater responsibility! Springboro parent and good neighbor, Kelly Kohls, is just the kind of public servant that will always have a work to do in service to others, doing what's right, whether or not it is the popular thing with the established status quo. That's why no matter which way political parties and elections go, Kelly Kohls will always be a winner.
We can give thanks that a door of opportunity, of greater responsibility, in our local community is now open to Kelly. Let's Rejoice and spread the great news! It could be that we now have the benefit of hearing more of what our former BOE president Kelly Kohls had to say to Springboro Families; because this is exactly what we want to hear from our current BOE members (including Ron Malone):
Kohls explained,“We have listened to our community. We are committed to providing a quality education, being fiscally prudent and being as fair to our employees as is possible in these difficult economic times. The board is also driven by a ‘Children First’ budget that takes into account all aspects of our children’s education.”
Now those are Inspiring and Encouraging Words for the future of our school children and community! Thanks, Kelly!
"Children's First Budgeting" has got to be the biggest misnomer Springboro has ever seen. I think "Tea Party First Budgeting" or maybe "Trying to Dismantle Public Schools Budgeting" would be a better name for the misguided policies of the FORMER board, THANK GOD, the new board will have some sense!
They already hatched

United States

#30303 Feb 1, 2014
The More You Know wrote:
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So? If you know something to be true, then why not tell us the truth?

So? Do you know if Scott Maney is still President of the SEA Or, Do you know if
Scott Maney is now employed in another school district?
Seems like a simple question to ask of "They already hatched." What say ye??
Ummmm, I did say the truth, ya ninny. Do you pay attention at all. I said he's no longer there, and that is the truth.

In answer to your other question, he is neither.
Say It Again

Springfield, OH

#30304 Feb 1, 2014
HAHAHAHA wrote:
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It is agreed that our community has had Enough of Dr. Malone using our students to his own self-glory; but those good old days are over now that Malone is in the board room. You can Keep Your Belief in him; Just Keep his hands out of the pockets of Springboro families.
It has already been proven (along with Malone's true history of past failed practices) that this school district doesn't need more money; it just needs more accountability.
Malone will need more than quite a few votes for his position on School Tax Increases. The only thing our community made clear is that even an under-performing, arrogantly rude and quite lazy-minded "has been a principal for the PAST thirteen years" really can win election on name recognition; and a well-funded two-year advertising campaign. Malone is mistaken if he thinks the community was voting him number two board meeting so that he could raise taxes to feed his addiction for more, more, more dues for the union. Enough is Enough.
That's funny, Haha... but seriously, Malone's Tax and Spend Addiction for more, more, more dues for the union really is worth saying again:

"Malone is mistaken if he thinks the community was voting him number two board member so that he could raise taxes to feed his addiction for more, more, more dues for the union. Enough is Enough."

Malone is no longer proving himself to be insanely popular with the community... now that he is in the board room he is, no doubt, proving that he truly is a big "joke" in this community...and a legend only in his own mind.

Just a matter of time.... Thank goodness he already has an expiration date of 2017 stamped on his forehead!
Pray for Bro Ron

Springfield, OH

#30305 Feb 1, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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"Children's First Budgeting" has got to be the biggest misnomer Springboro has ever seen. I think "Tea Party First Budgeting" or maybe "Trying to Dismantle Public Schools Budgeting" would be a better name for the misguided policies of the FORMER board, THANK GOD, the new board will have some sense!
Let us join in prayer for Brother Ron, Thanking God that he will have some sense!

For S-U-R-E no dollars and cents will be INVESTED in NEW TAXES as long as Ron Malone's severely misguided status quo tunnel vision leadership has influence in this school district.

Let us join in prayer for Bother Ron, that he will return to his first love of being "the beloved cheerleader captain" who just wants to have fun with the students; and who should launch a campaign for revenge against the Athletics Boosters Board President! Malone could "fit" right in with "collecting the money bags" at the end of each event of praise and worship of himself.
HAHAHAHA

Springfield, OH

#30307 Feb 1, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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No offense, but I don't think you know the first thing about education. All you care about is your taxes, which I'm not even disagreeing with. Leave the education of our kids to the people who know what the hell they're doing. Recognize that you are not one of these people. You are not an expert in this area, not even close. Leave it to the people who know what they're doing. Yes, people can care about kids, care about teachers, care about the bottom line, etc. at the same time. Recognize your limitations and run your mouth accordingly.
No offense taken, but I know enough about "education" to be Proficient enough in Spelling to know HOW to spell M-O-N-E-Y; obviously our SEA/union activists for SURE think that money is spelled R-E-S-P-E-C-T; and they run their mouth accordingly.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30308 Feb 2, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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No offense, but I don't think you know the first thing about education. All you care about is your taxes, which I'm not even disagreeing with. Leave the education of our kids to the people who know what the hell they're doing.
I will most gladly do just that as soon as we can locate a few.

A system that produces only 20% of our children who can score higher than 75% on the 8th grade Ohio Achievement Assessment test year after year after year does not lead one to believe the system we have now knows what the hell its doing.

One does not need to be a rocket scientist to know that if only 20% of the rockets you design don't blow up, most people would not sign up for a ride.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30309 Feb 2, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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"Children's First Budgeting" has got to be the biggest misnomer Springboro has ever seen. I think "Tea Party First Budgeting" or maybe "Trying to Dismantle Public Schools Budgeting" would be a better name for the misguided policies of the FORMER board, THANK GOD, the new board will have some sense!
If you cannot argue against a point rationally, you are left with attempting to demonize the position with appellations that most would find offensive.

What exactly do you not like about budgeting our scarce resources with our children first and foremost at the head of the line?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30310 Feb 2, 2014
Enough wrote:
Dr. Malone got quite a few votes for his position on the school board! I think our community made it clear who we want making decisions for our kids!! We BELIEVE in him!
He was easily outpolled by Mr. Anderson.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#30311 Feb 2, 2014
They already hatched wrote:
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You will find scores plummet across the nation. Be prepared for scores everywhere to be awful. In part, the number of tests in and of itself is ridiculous. Next year's Ohio sophomores will be required to take 17 tests, some of them requiring multiple hours and sessions. Not only is that much testing simply ridiculous, but also it takes away from instructional time. Bitch all you want about Springboro, but I'd lay money on the fact that Our scores won't be good, but they'll be among the best around. Don't like the test? The scoring? Etc.? You're barking up the wrong tree. Your issue should be with the state!
If the test scores are awful it is because the adults in the system have failed the children. If our teachers are capable of teaching the material in the text books our district taxpayers have provided, the test will seem quite easy for most. If we fail at that basic mission then we have only ourselves and not the children to blame.

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