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Wanna-be Americans

Dayton, OH

#29757 Dec 19, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, nothing to do with the protection plan at all. It's called THE LAW.
There is such a thing in this country as innocent until proven guilty. The driver is suspended until the court date.
Let the driver have their day in court, then the administration will take action.
Wow, 2 find the legal process in the country "nuts"! Maybe they should go back to communist China!
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29758 Dec 19, 2013
Drunk Bus Drivers wrote:
Worry about your DUI bus operators weaving all over the damn place!
Thank you!
We don't have to worry about it because police stopped them and took them off the road. Hope the same can be said in your city.
get a clue

Springfield, OH

#29759 Dec 19, 2013
You Get A Clue wrote:
<quoted text>
Got back and read the question to your post again. As anyone can see,
there was no such claim made. There was only a question asked.
Why so defensive? Just stating the truth is sufficient.
You're so fu###ng messed up inside your head that you can't remember earlier lies you posted here!

Please reference post # 29747

"Are you telling me the Program that I need to get with, Simply Put, is that the
Springboro Boosters got away with their own bad financial management and embezzlement
of the Students pay to play fees; AND they are continuing to do so, and that Taxpayers are now supposed to "move on" to the next round of Boosters Badgering Taxpayers...?"

P.S....Don't even try to tell me you're not "Show Me The Money"!
tea party hypocrites

Springfield, OH

#29760 Dec 19, 2013
Where Is The Outrage wrote:
<quoted text>
Get Real! There is also such a thing in the private sector workplace known as
Common Sense, which seems to be an unknown factor in the protection plan of
job security for school union employees. In the real world where I live and work,
when a co-worker came to work drunk, he was told to pick up his coffee cup and
leave and that his final pay check would be mailed.
According to the news, The police stopped the bus because the driver was not in control. The police arrested the bus driver on a DUI charge. From my point of view, as a parent,
the bus driver is guilty of endangering the lives of precious children; judgment is already
rendered in the court of common sense; and the only action that should follow is
firing the driver so that this drive is never given a second change to put our children's
in harm's way, because of a stupid, uncaring decision to drink and then drive a
school bus.
Of course, there will be a trial of "innocent until PROVEN guilty" by the legal system.
Then no doubt the union member will get "lawyered up" at taxpayers expense and then
the legalities of "unionized collective bargaining" will begin as to just how much it will cost to keep this driver from getting a second chance to endanger our children's lives. My guess,
it will be resolved with the driver getting a smack on one hand, and handed the keys to
the bus in the other hand. What say ye, on behalf of "tolerance" of drunk school bus drivers being innocent until proven guilty, then turned over to the administration to state the
union negotiating process with this school bus drive with 20 years work experience?
Will it be accepting a resignation; or a early retirement buy-out plan?
I hereby declare you GUILTY of consistently being an intolerant a##hole.
No trial is necessary.
No jury is necessary.
There! Did you enjoy that?!?.
Can I interest you in a one way ticket to Beijing?
Just Asking

Springfield, OH

#29761 Dec 19, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to get with the program. The $400,000 in question wasn't "spent" by the Boosters on this district's various athletic programs. The $400,000 in question disappeared into the back pockets of Harves, and probably as well into back pockets of other former Booster representatives who didn't got caught.
$400,000 is a figure that was arrived at and agreed upon by a consortium of parties that came together to help straighten things out after this damage to the community had become obvious. This pre-determined figure of $400,000 was agreed to by the court. Because the (former) Springboro Boosters had such awful problems consistently tracking their own records and keeping accurate figures, no one will ever know the actual dollar figure.
So, What Is the Program?

So, the Springboro Boosters had such awful problems consistently tracking their own
records.....

So, which one of the Springboro Boosters was responsible for tracking their own records
and keeping accurate figures, during the 2012-2013?

So, which one of the Springboro Boosters is currently responsible for tracking their own
records and keeping accurate figures?
Stay Cool

Springfield, OH

#29762 Dec 19, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You're so fu###ng messed up inside your head that you can't remember earlier lies you posted here!
Please reference post # 29747
"Are you telling me the Program that I need to get with, Simply Put, is that the
Springboro Boosters got away with their own bad financial management and embezzlement
of the Students pay to play fees; AND they are continuing to do so, and that Taxpayers are now supposed to "move on" to the next round of Boosters Badgering Taxpayers...?"
P.S....Don't even try to tell me you're not "Show Me The Money"!
Looks like "get a clue" just "blew a fuse." Wonder why?

oh, by the way, did the Boosters officer actually "get away with it all?" With bad financial
management (that none of his fellow officers every bothered to question or look into
all those years--just going along to get along?) and then, finally, having his day in court, then being found guilty of embezzlement, do you know if the Boosters officer ever paid back the money, or if the Boosters officer ever went to jail?
Stay Cool

Springfield, OH

#29763 Dec 19, 2013
tea party hypocrites wrote:
<quoted text>
I hereby declare you GUILTY of consistently being an intolerant a##hole.
No trial is necessary.
No jury is necessary.
There! Did you enjoy that?!?.
Can I interest you in a one way ticket to Beijing?
Why not cool down and try keeping up with "current events?"

Why not interest the drunk school bus driver in a one way ticket.... out of Springboro?

You know, why not do it "for the kids?" YOU do love OUR kids, don't you?
Got Brain Drain

Springfield, OH

#29764 Dec 19, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
It must be sad to go through life with such pent-up anger. Wonder when and where you will pop...
"No debate means No choice EQUALS Brain Drain.

Must be sad to go through life with such ill-gotten Brain Drain. Much too late
for "early" intervention.
Springboro Taxpayers

Springfield, OH

#29765 Dec 20, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You need to get with the program. The $400,000 in question wasn't "spent" by the Boosters on this district's various athletic programs. The $400,000 in question disappeared into the back pockets of Harves, and probably as well into back pockets of other former Booster representatives who didn't got caught.
$400,000 is a figure that was arrived at and agreed upon by a consortium of parties that came together to help straighten things out after this damage to the community had become obvious. This pre-determined figure of $400,000 was agreed to by the court. Because the (former) Springboro Boosters had such awful problems consistently tracking their own records and keeping accurate figures, no one will ever know the actual dollar figure.
WE BELIEVE.... The Springboro Boosters "need to get with the program" of respecting
the authority of their own Constitution and By Laws.

WE BELIEVE....When we all work together, each performing our own role, working in a unified direction, our athletic programs will flourish.

According to the Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution and By-Laws, "the purpose of this club shall be:

1. To encourage school activities which provide training in sportsmanship, clean thinking, and the spirit of friendly competition.
2. To bring a closer relationship and understanding between the School and the Community.
3. To assist in school athletic activities without attempting to direct the technical functions of policies of the School Administration, its teachers, or its coaches.
4. To be the SOLE SOURCE of Voluntary Financial Support for the Springboro Junior High and High Schools' recognized athletic activities.
5. To recognize the value of ALL extracurricular sports activities which train the student for a worthwhile maturity.
6. To actively seek sportsmanship on the part of spectators as well as players.
7. To promote athletic activities at all levels of this school system.

These are worth goals for our Booster organization, and hopefully, all that our Springboro Athletic Boosters Association does is to further this purpose.

Transparency, accountability, and ethical conduct are critical in everything the school district does, including our athletic programs and the closely associated booster organization.
When parents volunteer thousands of hours and raise hundreds of thousands of dollars, they need to have confidence that their effort and the money they raise will be directed to its intended purpose.

When we all work together, each performing our own role working in a unified direction,
our athletic programs will flourish.
According to the Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution
get a clue

Springfield, OH

#29766 Dec 20, 2013
Just Asking wrote:
<quoted text>

So, which one of the Springboro Boosters was responsible for tracking their own records
and keeping accurate figures, during the 2012-2013?
So, which one of the Springboro Boosters is currently responsible for tracking their own
records and keeping accurate figures?
You'd know these kinds of things if you'd get out from under that rock you live under.
Springboro Taxpayers

Springfield, OH

#29767 Dec 20, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, nothing to do with the protection plan at all. It's called THE LAW.
There is such a thing in this country as innocent until proven guilty. The driver is suspended until the court date.
Let the driver have their day in court, then the administration will take action.
Actually, it is against the LAW to Drink and Drive. So, it is already proven, even BEFORE
the Police saw the erratic swerving of the school bus, that the school employee was
GUILTY of breaking the law. Inquiring minds can only shudder at the thought of what
"could have been" had not the Police been at the "right place at the right time."
Inquiring minds can only wonder IF this is the first time this school employee has broken the
law by ignoring Administrative Policy (zero tolerance for drug abuse). In the TV News, Mr. Pennell said that screening for drug and alcohol use is school policy, therefore, this
school employee was well aware of school policy against the use of drugs and alcohol, but chose NOT to respect the authority of administrative policy and state law. Inquiring minds can only ask why this school employee obviously had NO FEAR of getting fired IF school administrative policy AND State Laws were broken; and how can a school employee who
uses such poor judgement, putting the lives of everyone on the highway at risk, be
trusted by the Springboro Taxpayers in the future, after the "day in court" and the
handling of the school administrative's "due process according to the school employee's
Union collective bargaining rights?"
get a clue

Springfield, OH

#29768 Dec 20, 2013
Springboro Taxpayers wrote:
<quoted text>
WE BELIEVE.... The Springboro Boosters "need to get with the program" of respecting
the authority of their own Constitution and By Laws.
WE BELIEVE....When we all work together, each performing our own role, working in a unified direction, our athletic programs will flourish.
According to the Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution and By-Laws, "the purpose of this club shall be:
1. To encourage school activities which provide training in sportsmanship, clean thinking, and the spirit of friendly competition.
2. To bring a closer relationship and understanding between the School and the Community.
3. To assist in school athletic activities without attempting to direct the technical functions of policies of the School Administration, its teachers, or its coaches.
4. To be the SOLE SOURCE of Voluntary Financial Support for the Springboro Junior High and High Schools' recognized athletic activities.
5. To recognize the value of ALL extracurricular sports activities which train the student for a worthwhile maturity.
6. To actively seek sportsmanship on the part of spectators as well as players.
7. To promote athletic activities at all levels of this school system.
These are worth goals for our Booster organization, and hopefully, all that our Springboro Athletic Boosters Association does is to further this purpose.
Transparency, accountability, and ethical conduct are critical in everything the school district does, including our athletic programs and the closely associated booster organization.
When parents volunteer thousands of hours and raise hundreds of thousands of dollars, they need to have confidence that their effort and the money they raise will be directed to its intended purpose.
When we all work together, each performing our own role working in a unified direction,
our athletic programs will flourish.
According to the Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution
Wonderful! Perhaps now, you could put this newfound education about Springboro Boosters to a productive use by becoming one of their active supporters?

Oh crap! I almost forgot! Your life's mission is to be an "againster".
Oops! How could I have had such a awful brain fart?
punctuation tutor 101

Springfield, OH

#29769 Dec 20, 2013
Stay Cool wrote:
<quoted text>
Why not cool down and try keeping up with "current events?"
Why not interest the drunk school bus driver in a one way ticket.... out of Springboro?
You know, why not do it "for the kids?" YOU do love OUR kids, don't you?
Quotation marks(") are used to enclose words that are quoted from the original source, or to set off dialog from narrative. They always come in pairs—open quotation marks and close quotation marks—which in most typefaces (albeit not this one) are typographically distinct. We'll help sort this all out, and show you how to quote things "properly."

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Quotation-Marks-Co...
Got Brain Drain

Springfield, OH

#29770 Dec 20, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
You'd know these kinds of things if you'd get out from under that rock you live under.
You'd be able to participate in a civil-minded discussion of important issues, including
our students pay to play fees, and holding Adults accountable for their bad decision;
IF you did not have Brain Drain, caused by your narrow-minded status quo tunnel vision. Obviously, you are still "fearfully clinging to all those failed practices of the past, of which the public has now learned the true history-- not only the Springboro Athletics Boosters Association, but also the true history of board member-elect, Ron Malone, who has
been a high school principal, for the PAST 13 years, running our high school like
a union shop.

Oh, by the way, the writer of this post does not live "under a rock," ..... instead, the
writer of this post lives in a beautiful Springboro neighborhood in a very expensive home,
rich enough to pay taxes due to our support our great schools and safety protection
of police and fireman for all Springboro Families.... but still smart enough to vote
AGAINST NEW LEVIES FOR INCREASED TAXES, just because it has been
so-o-o-o Long since our last Big Tax Increase.
Answer

Springfield, OH

#29771 Dec 20, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonderful! Perhaps now, you could put this newfound education about Springboro Boosters to a productive use by becoming one of their active supporters?
Oh crap! I almost forgot! Your life's mission is to be an "againster".
Oops! How could I have had such a awful brain fart?
To answer your question:

Obviously, quite easily.... since there you go Again.
Stay Cool

Springfield, OH

#29772 Dec 20, 2013
punctuation tutor 101 wrote:
<quoted text>
Quotation marks(") are used to enclose words that are quoted from the original source, or to set off dialog from narrative. They always come in pairs—open quotation marks and close quotation marks—which in most typefaces (albeit not this one) are typographically distinct. We'll help sort this all out, and show you how to quote things "properly."
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Quotation-Marks-Co...
Thank you, but I can "sort out free expression of my own ideas" without the
micro-managing of the punctuation tutor.

Why waste YOUR "professional" educator's skills to major on such minor things as
quotation marks?

Can you UTILIZE your ABILITY to sort out this Boosters Association financial mess
and Show us on this blog where the Boosters officers "improperly sorted" our
$400,000, plus a lot more, that was stolen from our parents whose kids play
Springboro Sports? That would be great!
Question

Springfield, OH

#29773 Dec 20, 2013
get a clue wrote:
<quoted text>
Wonderful! Perhaps now, you could put this newfound education about Springboro Boosters to a productive use by becoming one of their active supporters?
Oh crap! I almost forgot! Your life's mission is to be an "againster".
Oops! How could I have had such a awful brain fart?
Where did you get the idea that the "Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution
and By-Laws" is NEWFOUND EDUCATION? Just because the Boosters have ignored their
own by-laws and shown no RESPECT for school board authority all these years, doesn't
negate their RESPONSIBILITY to Acknowledge these by-laws for years and get to work, today, each performing individual roles and working in a unified direction, putting our students athletic programs best interest FIRST; instead of the status quo, business as usual way, putting individual sports coaches best financial interests FIRST?
Isn't that what all YOUR "get a clue" crap is really all about?

Who is your Springboro Athletics Boosters Association LEADER?
Who is your President?
Who is your Vice President?
Who is your Treasurer?
Who is the Boosters Leader that works with the Schools Athletic Director, to bring
together the work of the Boosters and the work of the School Board, with the framework
of respecting authority of our school policies and by-laws, already in place (and have
been in place all these years that our Boosters and Sports Coaches have ignored
these laws).

Now, if your "mission" on this blog does not engage your "skill set" of knowledge
and civil tongue to impart that knowledge, then:

Why should anyone believe your crap and just become an active Supporter of the Boosters, when it appears that the Boosters are operating their own hidden mission, asking citizens to trust that the Boosters know better how to spend OUR money; when the True History of Boosters stealing OUR money is now proven facts?

Do you know if the convicted Boosters officer (after his due date in court) was ever
held accountable for violating the Boosters own by-laws, including the Boosters
responsibility and Purpose of the Club, which is..... To bring a closer relationship and understanding between the school and the community?

Are you, "get a clue" a member of the Boosters? If so, do YOU believe that your
posts on this blog are "bringing a closer relationship and understanding between
the school and the community?
Question

Springfield, OH

#29774 Dec 20, 2013
punctuation tutor 101 wrote:
<quoted text>
Quotation marks(") are used to enclose words that are quoted from the original source, or to set off dialog from narrative. They always come in pairs—open quotation marks and close quotation marks—which in most typefaces (albeit not this one) are typographically distinct. We'll help sort this all out, and show you how to quote things "properly."
http://www.wikihow.com/Use-Quotation-Marks-Co...
This "punctuation tutor 101" is crap.(You do know that one definition of "crap"
is "a meaningless statement" don't you?)

Why not stop shoving your crap on this blog, and try improving yourself, instead of
"teaching others" punctuation on this blog?

Why not look up this "quotation" on the internet and show yourself how to sort out all
your crap?

"There's only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own
self." - Aldous Huxley


Tell It Like It is

Springfield, OH

#29775 Dec 21, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
What happened to the proposed contract with the consulting firm to look at the Treasurer's office and its function? I don't recall it being voted on and I don't see it on tonight's agenda.
Excuse me for taking so long to get an answer to your question, but I have done some
Lengthy background research in the school board meeting minutes and found some useful
Information.

It seems that the unusually large crowd, who showed up with the news reporters, to
Question the authority of board member Kelly Kohls to bring this contract to the BOE
For public discussion, was the same old crowd for S-U-R-E that has consistently
Used the media circus to harass, bully, and ridicule board member Kelly Kohls,
Throughout her service of elected office, while humiliating and embarrassing
Our community as a whole, in their S-U-R-E politics of personal destruction, against
Kelly Kohls, who stands firm on principles of her commitment to ensure that the children of the Springboro community receive an excellent education while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending.

It appears that this group for S-U-R-E will not stop their witch hunt, obviously, because
They hate all that is fiscal conservative, and an interruption of their political agenda
To re-instate the status quo business as usual agenda of past failed practices, to the
Detriment of our school district’s agenda of putting Students First, while maintaining fiscal integrity.

You see, as a matter of routine, our schools use outside firms to audit our facilities and departments, but as usual, this S-U-R-E hysteria of another manufactured crisis was
Started because the board would be voting on a firm that may be tied to
Conservatism. The sheer FEAR of differing opinions (of those Outside the union
Insiders) being publicly discussed in the School Board business meetings always brings out the pre-arranged Insanity of the Maney-Acts for S-U-R-E.

As it turned out, the Board did not vote approval on the contract, but voted to
Table the contract; which means there is NO obligation on the board member’s part to
Bring it back to the next board meeting. Hopefully, that helps you understand why
It was not on the agenda at the last meeting.
get a clue

Springfield, OH

#29776 Dec 21, 2013
Question wrote:
<quoted text>
Where did you get the idea that the "Springboro Athletic Boosters Association Constitution
and By-Laws" is NEWFOUND EDUCATION? Just because the Boosters have ignored their
own by-laws and shown no RESPECT for school board authority all these years, doesn't
negate their RESPONSIBILITY to Acknowledge these by-laws for years and get to work, today, each performing individual roles and working in a unified direction, putting our students athletic programs best interest FIRST; instead of the status quo, business as usual way, putting individual sports coaches best financial interests FIRST?
Isn't that what all YOUR "get a clue" crap is really all about?
Who is your Springboro Athletics Boosters Association LEADER?
Who is your President?
Who is your Vice President?
Who is your Treasurer?
Who is the Boosters Leader that works with the Schools Athletic Director, to bring
together the work of the Boosters and the work of the School Board, with the framework
of respecting authority of our school policies and by-laws, already in place (and have
been in place all these years that our Boosters and Sports Coaches have ignored
these laws).
Now, if your "mission" on this blog does not engage your "skill set" of knowledge
and civil tongue to impart that knowledge, then:
Why should anyone believe your crap and just become an active Supporter of the Boosters, when it appears that the Boosters are operating their own hidden mission, asking citizens to trust that the Boosters know better how to spend OUR money; when the True History of Boosters stealing OUR money is now proven facts?
Do you know if the convicted Boosters officer (after his due date in court) was ever
held accountable for violating the Boosters own by-laws, including the Boosters
responsibility and Purpose of the Club, which is..... To bring a closer relationship and understanding between the school and the community?
Are you, "get a clue" a member of the Boosters? If so, do YOU believe that your
posts on this blog are "bringing a closer relationship and understanding between
the school and the community?
For one who perpetually paints themselves as an arrogant, self-righteous tea party know-it-all, you really don't know sh## about the movers and shakers and happenings in this community!

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