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spin doctor

Springboro, OH

#29347 Nov 21, 2013
jumpin jack flash wrote:
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You are implying that they shouldn't have to pay the going rates for non school union employees.
Not implying that at all. Maybe 35% is justified? Maybe it isn't. Just wondering how charging 35% "helps the children"? Isn't that what it is all about on this blog?
Same Old Status Quo

Springfield, OH

#29348 Nov 21, 2013
Boroman54 wrote:
<quoted text>Your post(s) is another example of the "ole politico motto if you can't say anything to help your candidate bury the truth in manure so the opposite view can't see it. P/R have provided many talking points(i agree with most) and again I challenge you to provide Babbs talking points because I find none - "happy teachers" is not a talking point just a union RaRa cheer.
The above quote is from October 2011, during the school board campaign of pro-union school board candidate, Lisa Babb, VS
the Children's First Budgeting candidates, David Petroni and
Jim Rigano...

Although David Petroni and Jim Rigano were elected as our next two board representatives in November 2011, Lisa Babb and pro-union
activists continues even "Today and in the Future" to lobby "status quo" in the board room for Ron Malone's vote for
revenge AGAINST our school districts winning agenda of putting students best interest first with our school tax dollars,
maintaining QUALITY classroom courses and highly qualified classroom teachers, while living within the guidelines of
our children's first budgeting five year forecast; staying on course raising the bar for ALL students AND teachers.

Guess it's true that "everything OLD of PAST November 2011,
is PRESENT today and in the future of our students' 21st
Century classroom education.

Stay Alert Voters! Taxpayers must hold our new board members,
including Ron Malone, ACCOUNTABLE to TAXPAYERS, holding ALL
board members to the current boards CONTRACT of Renewal levy
saving taxpayers $6.5 million...with NO NEW TAXES!

SOS TO STATUS QUO MALONE... A DEAL IS A DEAL! IF YOU DON'T
ALIGN WITH THE OEA UNION ACTIVISTS WAR OF WORDS AGAINST
SPRINGBORO TAXPAYERS EMOTIONALLY BLACKMAILING TAXPAYERS FOR NEW MONEY TO RUN OUR EDUCATION BUSINESS... then Springboro Taxpayers will not engage in the business of your "insanely popular" politics of personal destruction AGAINST you as an elected
BOE official.
Come Grow With Us

Springfield, OH

#29349 Nov 21, 2013
"Happiness is neither virtue nor pleasure nor this thing nor that ..but simply growth. We are happy when we are growing."
-William Butler Yeats

....in the direction of balance!

Board of Education members are elected to represent the community in the school district.

The board is elected to balance the interests of students, parents, taxpayers, and employees. Many school boards lack balance because they are comprised of people with more allegiance to maintaining a specific establishment than to the greater cause.

In Springboro, blance has been restored. With a new administrative team, the Springboro school district has adopted a mission to "accelerate student achievement and support qualified staff with a balanced budget."

These are not emply words: They summarise actions.
Together, our school leaders have achieved a
blanced budget. Look at Today and the Future:

We are on the right course,
with our school districts' new reform minded
philosophy, but those who oppose putting our students first are forced to re-think their long held beliefs of the past, and still cling in
"FEAR" to their status quo failed practices, and
still spread False Evidence Appearing Real in protests to "re-instate Ron Malone" keeping it just the way it was in the year 2000, when Mr. Malone's professional experience was a better
"fit" with our status quo school district
philosophy.

Special Thanks And Appreciation are due our current board members and new school distirct leaders for the amazing progress made in just the past two years! Special Thanks and Appreciation
are due our school board budget/finance committee members, Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano!
Please know that Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners fully support your Children's first budgeting agenda, doing what's right for all our school children and our community. Your hard work and tireless service helping Springboro be a better place to live, work, learn, and play sports
is appreciated! Thank you for helping keep our schools and community BOTH safe AND affordable!
jumpin jack flash

Dayton, OH

#29350 Nov 21, 2013
spin doctor wrote:
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Not implying that at all. Maybe 35% is justified? Maybe it isn't. Just wondering how charging 35% "helps the children"? Isn't that what it is all about on this blog?
And how is increasing teachers pay, and reduced benefit costs helping the children ? Are you saying teachers will work harder only if they are paid more ? How is that helping the children ?
hello Mr Obvious

Springfield, OH

#29351 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
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You forgot to THANK THE TEACHERS. 50+ students scoring over a 30 is something to be proud of. Most of these kids were attending high school with Dr. Malone at the helm and Mr. Stuckey teaching and still they were able to overcome(lol). Tells you something about how some people have NO IDEA what they are talking about. Those numbers seem pretty PROFICIENT.
lol! How can you possibly forget to give credit where credit is due?
Certainly the majority of these 50+ high school students began learning proper study habits before they graduated from Pampers pull-ups. How does this happen? It's apPARENT!
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29352 Nov 21, 2013
hello Mr Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>
lol! How can you possibly forget to give credit where credit is due?
Certainly the majority of these 50+ high school students began learning proper study habits before they graduated from Pampers pull-ups. How does this happen? It's apPARENT!
So get rid of the schools and the teachers and we'll all save lot's of tax money. Plus we wouldn't have to deal with KRP on the BOE!

With that logic we could get rid of every college!

Although I don't know too many parents that could handle Algebra 2 without a refresher, let alone AP classes. Sorry, I'll let you get back to your physics paper now.

(I've come to expect this from Pickerington, you must have been home schooled!)
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29353 Nov 21, 2013
hello Mr Obvious wrote:
<quoted text>
lol! How can you possibly forget to give credit where credit is due?
Certainly the majority of these 50+ high school students began learning proper study habits before they graduated from Pampers pull-ups. How does this happen? It's apPARENT!
Credit goes to the student, teachers, parents and those of us who fund their education in that order.(I don't think parents spend 7 hours a day teaching thier kids after school).

"It takes a village." - Hillary Clinton
jumpin jack flash

Dayton, OH

#29354 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
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Credit goes to the student, teachers, parents and those of us who fund their education in that order.(I don't think parents spend 7 hours a day teaching thier kids after school).
"It takes a village." - Hillary Clinton
"what difference does it make" ----Hillary Clinton
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29355 Nov 21, 2013
jumpin jack flash wrote:
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"what difference does it make" ----Hillary Clinton
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29356 Nov 21, 2013
Well, we went to a new page, must be time for a long post from Pickerington....
jumpin jack flash

Dayton, OH

#29357 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
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"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
depends what your definition of "is" is-----Bill Clinton
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#29358 Nov 21, 2013
jumpin jack flash wrote:
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depends what your definition of "is" is-----Bill Clinton
If you're going to quote, please get it right and in context.

"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If 'is' means 'is and never has been' that's one thing - if it means 'there is none', that was a completely true statement." - Bill Clinton

(Didn't your parents teach you good study habits?)
jumpin jack flash

Dayton, OH

#29359 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're going to quote, please get it right and in context.
"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If 'is' means 'is and never has been' that's one thing - if it means 'there is none', that was a completely true statement." - Bill Clinton
(Didn't your parents teach you good study habits?)
ah...feeling a little sensitive there, are ya now? You sound like you may need counseling. Hopefully, it's in your union contract.
Boro Future Brighter

Springfield, OH

#29360 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
If you're going to quote, please get it right and in context.
"It depends upon what the meaning of the word 'is' is. If 'is' means 'is and never has been' that's one thing - if it means 'there is none', that was a completely true statement." - Bill Clinton
(Didn't your parents teach you good study habits?)
Forget about Bill Clinton's physical and emotional abuse of women... let's just celebrate the closing of Ron Malone's
SHS union shop and dreadful misallocation of our school district
and Taxpayer Resources. We can say goodbye to those bad old
good old boy days, now that Ron Malone is not in high school
anymore running the high school like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose
skills were not in demand. This tactic ROBBED resources from
areas of greater need in the district. Those who suffered the most were the gifted and thos in need of early intervention.

The true history of a man through official documents has now proven that it is not as golden as you have been led to believe;
yielding a "black" mark on our excellent with distinction school district of a "D" grade on gifted intervention and "C" grade on the lowest 20% in achievement from state.

As status quo Malone moves on up to the board room, our future looks much brighter now that his narrow tunnel vision can be broadened by our reform-minded board members and community taxpayers.

By proven record of Malone's past employment in our school district, Taxpayers can expect Malone's resistance to change
and the need for Taxpayers to repeatedly request of Mr. Malone
to utilize his ABILITY to get on board with our current board's
winning agenda of Children's First Budgeting with our school tax dollars.
hello Mr Obvious

Springfield, OH

#29361 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
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Credit goes to the student, teachers, parents and those of us who fund their education in that order.(I don't think parents spend 7 hours a day teaching thier kids after school).
"It takes a village." - Hillary Clinton
Obviously you continue to not get the point, Mr. Obvious.

Of course,(effective) teachers are extremely important in each and every student's overall education. Almost without exception, the students who rise to graduate near or at the top of their respective class are the students with parents / guardians with tremendous work ethic. These are the type of parents who take time to teach their children how to read and write before they ever set foot in kindergarten. These are the type of parents who know how to inspire. These are the type of parents who are literate enough to know the correct spelling of the adjective ...'their'.
Reality Bytes

Springfield, OH

#29362 Nov 21, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
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"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
It is stupid of the FEARFUL ones to distort the proven FACTS,
by spreading lies and False Evidence Appearing Real, AGAINST
the progress made in the last two years by our current board's reform-minded Children's First philosophy.

No debate about it; We can't just invest in status quo.
We Must Utilize Our School District's Leadership Ability
to INVEST in a broader VISION of Raising the Bar for Our
Students AND Teachers.

Malone NOW has NO CHOICE in the board room, but to get on board with our Students First 21st Century classroom education!

Fresh Ideas have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required.

Community Taxpayers will continue to CHALLENGE the status quo where need be... and that IS a good thing!
Glass houses

Springfield, OH

#29363 Nov 21, 2013
hello Mr Obvious wrote:
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Obviously you continue to not get the point, Mr. Obvious.
Of course,(effective) teachers are extremely important in each and every student's overall education. Almost without exception, the students who rise to graduate near or at the top of their respective class are the students with parents / guardians with tremendous work ethic. These are the type of parents who take time to teach their children how to read and write before they ever set foot in kindergarten. These are the type of parents who know how to inspire. These are the type of parents who are literate enough to know the correct spelling of the adjective ...'their'.
First of all, your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are atrocious, so I find it quite ironic that you would point out an error in someone else's post. And for the record, "their" is a PRONOUN, not an adjective. I must have had better parents than you according to your post.

This brings me to another point. Yes, many -- even most -- students who are at the top of their (there's that pesky pronoun again...a possessive pronoun to be exact) classes have involved parents. Guess what? Not all do. What about them? Some students got screwed in the parent department, and their teachers are the only ones who care about their educations. Teachers perform miracles every day, often in those low-level classes you speak so poorly of. It's a big deal when Johnny gets his low-level English credit and can actually graduate, even though he came from parents who didn't care. The teacher played a critical role in that child's life, and frankly I don't care if it's only one student (even though it isn't). He was worth it. That same teacher may have helped Sam improve his ACT score by one point, but that one point allowed him to get into MIT, the school of his dreams. One point is no big deal, right? It was to Sam. Fortunately, he had parents who pushed him and helped create the foundation, but perhaps it was the teacher who gave that all-important final push. My kids have had excellent teachers in Springboro. I'm an involved parent, but I'm only one piece of the puzzle. Sadly, in some cases, the teacher is the only piece of the puzzle for some kids. Just because this isn't YOUR experience, doesn't mean that this isn't how our world is.
No jealousy here

Springfield, OH

#29364 Nov 21, 2013
Got Brain Drain wrote:
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...sounds like your dreadful narrow mindedness could certainly
welcome some improvement; but it'll take more than a standing ovation to rise above your low mental capacity. A mind is a
terrible thing to lose to jealousy and envy; don't think
even Dr. Malone has a prescription for that in the board room.
I really don't get what you think I'm so jealous of. Kelly Kohls? Seriously? The most hated person in Springboro, next to crazy Sonny? Um, no thank you. What is there to be jealous of? That she's the school board president for another couple of months? Her fashion sense? Her power point presentations? Her droning voice? Her inability to work collaboratively with teachers? Her psychosis? Her illusions of grandeur? Her ability to lie and believe herself?

Really, I see nothing to be jealous of. At all.
Kelly Kohls Paraphrase

Springfield, OH

#29365 Nov 21, 2013
Kelly Kohls: "Hey, we aren't going to let the Ohio School Boards Association tell us what to do and how to be good board members!! No way! I'm an individual! Hey, I know what I'll do. I'm going to create my OWN little group - the Ohio School Boards Leadership Council - so I can tell them how to be good board members and what to do. Oh, wait a minute..."

Hypocritical much?
the decider

Dayton, OH

#29366 Nov 21, 2013
No jealousy here wrote:
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I really don't get what you think I'm so jealous of. Kelly Kohls? Seriously? The most hated person in Springboro, next to crazy Sonny? Um, no thank you. What is there to be jealous of? That she's the school board president for another couple of months? Her fashion sense? Her power point presentations? Her droning voice? Her inability to work collaboratively with teachers? Her psychosis? Her illusions of grandeur? Her ability to lie and believe herself?
Really, I see nothing to be jealous of. At all.
Jobe, you are jealous of everyone who is a civil person.

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