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Springboro, OH

#29162 Nov 14, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Springboro DOES NOT score quite well on these tests as is evidenced by the previous four years of tests results.
7th Grade OAA Math results
Year test taken.....2009-2010.....2010-2 011.....2011 - 2012.....2012 - 2013
(% Correct on Test.......... of students in each scoring band each year)
93% and above ........2..........9.......... 1..........1
85%- 92%......... 28..........25..........36.... ......34
75%- 84%......... 79..........60..........56.... ...... 77
64%- 74%......... 93..........79.......... 79.......... 108
63% and below........228..........239. ......... 211.......... 282
Pass/Fail..........114/429.... .....87/402..........101/391.. ........112/502
% Scoring 75% or >..26.50%.........21.60%... ......25.80%.........22.30%
The fact of the matter is that over the past four years, less than 1 in 4 of our children are able to score at least 75% on a basic math assessment test. These results are indicative of the level of education we are providing.
This is simply unacceptable given the quality of students, parents, teachers, administrators, and infrastructure we enjoy in this community.
Anyone who can look you square in the eye and tell you these results are good must think you are incredibly stupid and will believe anything they tell you.
Those who purport this as success do a disservice to all involved.
The TEST is unacceptable. Springboro scores quite well in comparison to other similar districts and considering the flaws of the test. In another district those same students would perform far worse on the test. However, you are citing numbers under Ms. Cook. Considering those numbers, it's clear that the stellar leadership of Ron Malone at the high school helped improve those kids' scores by the time they got to his school. Kudos to Ron Malone! Gee, maybe he should be on the school board or something...oh wait...he IS. And that's SUPER!
Motovoter

Mason, OH

#29163 Nov 14, 2013
So just saw that the best supporter of the current school board, the self-styled “Sönny” Thomas will be hosting a Jew-hating event at the high school on November 18. All couched in “End the Fed” nonsense. Is Springboro High School now a forum for anti-Semitism?
Upward Tornado

Miamisburg, OH

#29164 Nov 14, 2013
spin doctor wrote:
<quoted text>
And as a previous poster remarked - ever consider socio-economics might just happen to come into play for education?
Sure. That requires spending $30K/year?
spin doctor wrote:
And their cost of living is much higher in DC, so obviously they will pay more for education, but maybe not have the best of results because of the actual students and their familial backgrounds, homelife, etc.
Absolutely, higher cost of liveing explains some of the disparity. But, four to five times the disparity and without results? If you are going to blame family life, background, etc. then there is no amount of money that government can spend to create success.
spin doctor wrote:
Certainly kids can escape their "backgrounds" and we need to celebrate those victories and figure out how to do it for everyone, but socio-economic factors can effect education to a degree.
Sure, to a degree. But, it's clear that the money spent in DC is not having the desired effect. Think it ever occurred to the powers that me that maybe,just maybe, they ought to look elsewhere than more money for the solution?

Since: Dec 09

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#29165 Nov 14, 2013
The theme on this board recently is seemingly drifting towards spending more money on a sputtering education system. Oh boy, here comes the levies...AGAIN. Told ya so.
Seriously Laughable Ron

Springboro, OH

#29166 Nov 14, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Malone was elected by the community.
WILL YOU PLEASE GO NOW!!!!
LOL
Dr. Kelly Kohls was also elected by the community in November 2009, but the union activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the union activists refused to show Professional Respect for Dr. Kohls, who, btw, recieved the highest number of votes in November 2009, BY THE COMMUNITY.

Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano won their hard-fought battle for school board election in November 2011, receiving the most votes in first and second place among the six candidates on the ballot, four of whom were supported by the Union.
Again the union activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the union activists refused to show Professional Respect for Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano.

It is no laughing matter that Mr. Malone, who only received 5673 (or 25.9%) votes on November 5th, only 2nd in popularity, is now
stating in the Star Press that some of his goals while working on the board are to restore people's confidence and trust in the school board and to make sure student's educational needs are met, such as special needs and advanced students in a way that is fiscally responsible.

Mr. Malone, YOU ARE SERIOUSLY LAUGHABLE! Are you trying to tell us that you were only "awakened" on November 5th, to the fact that you are Now back in the time of March 2012, and "being re-instated" by the March 2012 board president, Scott Anderson, to get back to "business as usual".... running our school district the same way that you ran our high school...like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose skills were not in demand...?

Take a look at the FACTS of your PAST LEADERSHIP when you could have done the things that you now say our current board and new school district leadership has not done, For Example:

Number of Dual College Credit Classes available when Mr. Malone retired - 0
Number of Dual College Credit Classes added after Mr. Malone retired June 30, 2013 - 6

Misallocation of district and taxpayer resources:
34 out of 77 elective classes at the high school had less than 20 students, more than a few had multiple classes.
IE: Children's Literature, 2 classes - 27 total students,
Entrepreneurship, 2 classes - 20 total students, etc.

... and there's lots more proof of Mr. Malone's lazy minded status quo leadership as a SHS principal, which proves to this community of taxpayers that Mr. Malone who has been a high school princiPAL was not FIT professional educator; and winning Number Two in the November 5th popularity contest does not prove Mr. Malone to be a FIT board representative who now, says he is "grateful" to the community that they have TRUST in himself....

Get Real Malone! Will you please go home now?
... the Springboro "union shop" went out of business on
June 30, 2013.
Seriously Laughable Ron

Springboro, OH

#29167 Nov 14, 2013
Not so much wrote:
<quoted text>
I LOVE to research! I was hoping you could, for once, consolidate your thoughts and remove superfluous verbiage. Of course you can't answer my question because there is no legitimate reason why a school should not have lower-level classes. Did you know that there are some kids in Springboro who aren't sure If there electric will be on when they get home? They could care less what a gerund phrase is - they need "survival" language arts, not honors. Don't you care about these kids? They have no aspirations to go to college, and THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. They need the lower level courses to help them prepare for the workplace. Why do you think we shouldn't have classes for them?
A point you keep missing is that most of the community does not see what the board has done over the last few years as "progress." Quite the contrary. You can rattle off as many accomplishments as you want, but none of it matters as much as the divisiveness they created. If the community liked what the current board was doing Bitner and Vaughn would have been elected
lol... The Great PrinciPAL Ron, and Executive Business Manager of the PAST Springboro High School Union Shop, is not even officially "on board" yet...

but just look at the D-i-v-i-s-i-v-e-n-e-s-s that this
proven lazy minded poorly performing retired school employee is already creating among his very own supporters, who are now on this blog trying to convice others that Ron Malone, who is only Number Two in popularity, is actually the ONE that will bring Solidarity and Prosperity
once again, to the victimized union masters...

Bring on the TV cameras... the fun is only just begun!
No debate means No choice

Maineville, OH

#29168 Nov 14, 2013
Seriously Laughable Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
Again the union activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the union activists refused to show Professional Respect for Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano.
Again the ES activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the ES activists refused to show Professional Respect for Dr. Malone.

Using YOUR own words and logic, you should RECOGNIZE THE PEOPLE's VOICE. Neither candidate supported by ES won. Get over it. Everyone else has....
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29169 Nov 14, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
<quoted text>
aw, come on now...we all know the truth! It is Ron Malone and his Boro Alumni Community of Blah blah blah that are severely misleading themselves, and the community as a whole, with their
lies and deceit; using the DDN to demonize Springboro parent/board member Kelly Kohls, AND folding board members Jim Rigano and David Petroni into their OEA War of Words, attacking Springboro Taxpayers with their politics of forced unionism.
Listen Up, Boro Alumni Community of the Blah, blah, blah...
The Time Has Now Come to STOP SPREADING LIES, in your petty,
revengeful efforts to demonize and discredit the progress made in the last two years by our current board and our NEW School Superintendent and school district leaders.
Your false accusations made in your above post is mean-spiritied,
motivated by Boro Alumni Community of the Blah, blah, blah's
petty feelings of "entitlement" of Mr. Malone to continue "running" this school district in the same old status quo outdated way as it was in the Year 2000, when Mr. Malone was first employed by Springboro Taxpayers as SHS principal.
Listen Up... The time has now come to stop spreading lies, distorting the agenda of our current BOE, including this one:
"Moves by the current BOE to decrease Springboro's science education standards by injecting creationism and being critical of the main basis of all biology, evolutionary processes, will not help our students in these standardized scores."
There has been NO MOVES of this silly sort made by our current
BOE.
It is my understanding that Springboro Parent/Board Member Kelly Kohls DID gain awareness of her high school student's concern regarding the high school's required summer reading program; and
as any parent, who is actively engaged in their own child's education SHOULD do, Mrs. Kohls started asking questions about her high school student's education. It is unfortunate that concerned parents, including Kelly Kohls, who have the WILL and the SKILL to serve our school children and our community as board representative, is personally ATTACKED and DEMONIZED, simply because she voices parental concerns and ASKS questions about BOE By-laws and Policies regarding our School District Curriculum.
What a Waste of Kelly Kohls' Good Leadership... thrown out of the board room all in the name of PrinciPAL Ron's Vote for Revenge and the Boro Alumni Community of Blah blah blah Campaign AGAINST our
STUDENTS FIRST/MAINTAINING FISCAL INTEGRITY winning agenda of
our current board and new school district leaders.
Special Thanks and Appreciation should be given our BOE members,
Mrs. Kohls, Mr. Rigano, Mr. Petroni, Mr. Miller, Mrs. Kull, AND
Mr. Petrey and our NEW team of Professional Educators.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO BOTH THE SCHOOL COMMUNITY OF EMPLOYEES
AND THE COMMUNITY OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS/TAXPAYERS!
THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING STUDENTS FIRST!
THANK YOU FOR INCREASED PAY FOR EVERY SCHOOL EMPLOYEE!
THANK YOU FOR THE PROGRESS MADE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS!
THANK YOU FOR RENEWAL LEVY THAT SAVES TAXPAYERS $6.5 MILLION!
Well, hello, Ms. Kohls! Fancy meeting you here! You sure like tooting your own horn, don't you?

Well, this is very enlightening, now, isn't it? So, what you're saying is YOU USED YOUR POWER ON THE BOARD to challenge something in your daughter's class when THE MAJORITY OF THE OTHER STUDENTS AND PARENTS WERE FINE WITH IT. You used your elected office for YOUR PERSONAL AGENDA. Kind of like how you have electives removed until your daughter wants to take them? You see, Ms. Kohls, you are done being able to use your power for your own agenda because you now HAVE NO POWER. The community now sees right through you (and the pizza boys), and finally we have a school board that will listen to the majority of its constituents. I hope you enjoyed your ride because it has come to a screeching halt. And that is just SUPER!
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29170 Nov 14, 2013
Seriously Laughable Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Kelly Kohls was also elected by the community in November 2009, but the union activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the union activists refused to show Professional Respect for Dr. Kohls, who, btw, recieved the highest number of votes in November 2009, BY THE COMMUNITY.
Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano won their hard-fought battle for school board election in November 2011, receiving the most votes in first and second place among the six candidates on the ballot, four of whom were supported by the Union.
Again the union activists refused to recognize the People's Voice in a free election and the union activists refused to show Professional Respect for Mr. David Petroni and Mr. Jim Rigano.
It is no laughing matter that Mr. Malone, who only received 5673 (or 25.9%) votes on November 5th, only 2nd in popularity, is now
stating in the Star Press that some of his goals while working on the board are to restore people's confidence and trust in the school board and to make sure student's educational needs are met, such as special needs and advanced students in a way that is fiscally responsible.
Mr. Malone, YOU ARE SERIOUSLY LAUGHABLE! Are you trying to tell us that you were only "awakened" on November 5th, to the fact that you are Now back in the time of March 2012, and "being re-instated" by the March 2012 board president, Scott Anderson, to get back to "business as usual".... running our school district the same way that you ran our high school...like a union shop, making up classes with scant demand to ensure employment for those whose skills were not in demand...?
Take a look at the FACTS of your PAST LEADERSHIP when you could have done the things that you now say our current board and new school district leadership has not done, For Example:
Number of Dual College Credit Classes available when Mr. Malone retired - 0
Number of Dual College Credit Classes added after Mr. Malone retired June 30, 2013 - 6
Misallocation of district and taxpayer resources:
34 out of 77 elective classes at the high school had less than 20 students, more than a few had multiple classes.
IE: Children's Literature, 2 classes - 27 total students,
Entrepreneurship, 2 classes - 20 total students, etc.
... and there's lots more proof of Mr. Malone's lazy minded status quo leadership as a SHS principal, which proves to this community of taxpayers that Mr. Malone who has been a high school princiPAL was not FIT professional educator; and winning Number Two in the November 5th popularity contest does not prove Mr. Malone to be a FIT board representative who now, says he is "grateful" to the community that they have TRUST in himself....
Get Real Malone! Will you please go home now?
... the Springboro "union shop" went out of business on
June 30, 2013.
Yes, Kohls was elected by the community FOUR YEARS AGO. Ron Malone was also voted for BY THE COMMUNITY! In fact, he received MORE VOTES THAN KOHLS!!!! Hahahaha!!! I LOVE it!! Kohls received a mere 4678!!! This seriously just made my day!!!!! Typical spin Kohls and met minions put on numbers!! She knew better than to run this time!
Wow Wow Wow

Springboro, OH

#29171 Nov 14, 2013
You are using old math. Dr. Malone and his staff taught us new math. There were a little more than 7000 voters. 5673 of those 7000 voted for Dr. Malone. THAT IS OVER 81% OF THE VOTERS VOTED FOR DR. MALONE.

THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN. YOU NEED TO LISTEN.

QUOTE FROM EARLIER POST.
It is no laughing matter that Mr. Malone, who only received 5673 (or 25.9%) votes on November 5th.

IF HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED ALL THE VOTES, HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED 33%.
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29172 Nov 14, 2013
*her
Straight to the Point

Springboro, OH

#29173 Nov 14, 2013
Not so much wrote:
<quoted text>
A point you keep missing is that most of the community does not see what the board has done over the last few years as "progress." Quite the contrary. You can rattle off as many accomplishments as you want, but none of it matters as much as the divisiveness they created. If the community liked what the current board was doing Bitner and Vaughn would have been elected
Quite the contrary. It is proven that 6086 voters has seen what progress this board has made, since Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, came on board in January 2012, and their accomplishments in the school district (including NEW buses for our kid's safety) are absolutely, amazingly, awesome!

It is proven by the election of Mr. Anderson as number one,
that most of the community does see what Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano have accomplished with their reform-minded vision of students first, while maintaining fiscal integrity! Truth is,
that most people in the community associated the endorsement
of Charles Anderson with our children's first budgeting school board members, Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, and cast their votes on November 5th for the threesome of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Petroni and Mr.Rigano, as the most qualified to run the school district's education business and manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget.

Truth is, most people in our community are quite optimistic about the future of our schools and community, under the good leadership our of New School Superintendent, Mr. Petrey, AND our NEW School District Staff. They have worked as a Great Professional Team over the past year, since Mr. Petrey came on board, with BOTH board members, Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano; and most of our community wishes Mr. Anderson, Mr. Stuckey, and Mr. Malone Congratulations. We feel confident that Mr. Petroni, Mr. Rigano, and Mr. Anderson have a solid professional business management background that will serve to "mentor" our TWO retired educators, Mr. Stuckey and Mr. Malone; IF the two retired educators are open to applying themselves to learning our school districts VISION of our Students First 21st century classroom education.
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29174 Nov 14, 2013
Seriously Laughable Ron wrote:
<quoted text>
lol... The Great PrinciPAL Ron, and Executive Business Manager of the PAST Springboro High School Union Shop, is not even officially "on board" yet...
but just look at the D-i-v-i-s-i-v-e-n-e-s-s that this
proven lazy minded poorly performing retired school employee is already creating among his very own supporters, who are now on this blog trying to convice others that Ron Malone, who is only Number Two in popularity, is actually the ONE that will bring Solidarity and Prosperity
once again, to the victimized union masters...
Bring on the TV cameras... the fun is only just begun!
I agree! The fun has just begun!!

The fun of restoring the community's faith in its school board.
The fun of allowing STUDENTS to have a voice.
The fun of seeing the community come together, with a few loud and crazy exceptions.
The fun of watching the tea party squirm.
The fun of returning Springboro to what it should be known for - a quality education.
The fun of seeing a school board actually respect it's teachers.

Etc.. I can't wait!
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29175 Nov 14, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
You are using old math. Dr. Malone and his staff taught us new math. There were a little more than 7000 voters. 5673 of those 7000 voted for Dr. Malone. THAT IS OVER 81% OF THE VOTERS VOTED FOR DR. MALONE.
THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN. YOU NEED TO LISTEN.
QUOTE FROM EARLIER POST.
It is no laughing matter that Mr. Malone, who only received 5673 (or 25.9%) votes on November 5th.
IF HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED ALL THE VOTES, HE WOULD HAVE RECEIVED 33%.
So very true!! They try SO HARD to spin those numbers, don't they?
Got Donuts

Springboro, OH

#29176 Nov 14, 2013
Not so much wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree! The fun has just begun!!
The fun of restoring the community's faith in its school board.
The fun of allowing STUDENTS to have a voice.
The fun of seeing the community come together, with a few loud and crazy exceptions.
The fun of watching the tea party squirm.
The fun of returning Springboro to what it should be known for - a quality education.
The fun of seeing a school board actually respect it's teachers.
Etc.. I can't wait!
Oh Fiddle dee dee... such childish petty silliness our community hasn't seen the likes of since old man malone tried hiding his leadership inefficiences behind the high school kids! Sounds like PrinciPAL Ron's Vote for Revenge Kids are on a "sugar buzz."

Bring on the FUN of allowing disrespectful smart-mouthed STUDENTS
"to have a voice" in front of the TV cameras! That's a Sure-Fire Winner of NO NEW TAXES for S-U-R-E!
Got Donuts

Springboro, OH

#29177 Nov 14, 2013
Not so much wrote:
<quoted text>
So very true!! They try SO HARD to spin those numbers, don't they?
Since you obviously are at least proficient in math, listen carefully to a sweeter version of election results. Maybe it will
make the truth that Mr. Malone is only Number Two a little easier to swallow.

Alls Ima Sayin is that "If everybody that voted for retired educator, Mr. Malone, on November 5th, brought PrinciPAL Ron a Donut; then Mr. Malone would have a total of 5673 donuts; And if everybody that voted for community business man, Charles Anderson, brought Mr.Anderson a donut, then Mr. Anderson would have a total of 6086 donuts, which is Number One the sweetest place on the ballot, over Mr. Malones Number Two place. Number Two just has to
try harder; not sure that Mr. Malone can FIT his past experience into the challeges that lie ahead, with his PROVEN past employment record of keeping our kids behind.
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29178 Nov 14, 2013
Got Donuts wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh Fiddle dee dee... such childish petty silliness our community hasn't seen the likes of since old man malone tried hiding his leadership inefficiences behind the high school kids! Sounds like PrinciPAL Ron's Vote for Revenge Kids are on a "sugar buzz."
Bring on the FUN of allowing disrespectful smart-mouthed STUDENTS
"to have a voice" in front of the TV cameras! That's a Sure-Fire Winner of NO NEW TAXES for S-U-R-E!
Whoaaaa, wait a minute! I thought you were all about the students!! Children first, right?! But now you call them "disrespectful" and " smart-mouthed"? Make up your mind! Ohhhhhh, I get it, if they agree with you and your hidden agenda, they're worth fighting for, but if they disagree with you they're "smart-mouthed" and "disrespectful". Oh, it's so nice to see your true colors!!
No debate means No choice

Maineville, OH

#29179 Nov 14, 2013
Straight to the Point wrote:
<quoted text>
Quite the contrary. It is proven that 6086 voters has seen what progress this board has made, since Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, came on board in January 2012, and their accomplishments in the school district (including NEW buses for our kid's safety) are absolutely, amazingly, awesome!
It is proven by the election of Mr. Anderson as number one,
that most of the community does see what Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano have accomplished with their reform-minded vision of students first, while maintaining fiscal integrity! Truth is,
that most people in the community associated the endorsement
of Charles Anderson with our children's first budgeting school board members, Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, and cast their votes on November 5th for the threesome of Mr. Anderson, Mr. Petroni and Mr.Rigano, as the most qualified to run the school district's education business and manage our multi-million dollar school tax budget.
Truth is, most people in our community are quite optimistic about the future of our schools and community, under the good leadership our of New School Superintendent, Mr. Petrey, AND our NEW School District Staff. They have worked as a Great Professional Team over the past year, since Mr. Petrey came on board, with BOTH board members, Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano; and most of our community wishes Mr. Anderson, Mr. Stuckey, and Mr. Malone Congratulations. We feel confident that Mr. Petroni, Mr. Rigano, and Mr. Anderson have a solid professional business management background that will serve to "mentor" our TWO retired educators, Mr. Stuckey and Mr. Malone; IF the two retired educators are open to applying themselves to learning our school districts VISION of our Students First 21st century classroom education.
You must bathe in the kool-aid...But at least you can do it in the nude since it's lonely in your world of delusion. Only 431 of the 2300 people who voted for B/V also voted for A. As for R/P, the clock is ticking...
Not so much

Springboro, OH

#29180 Nov 14, 2013
Got Donuts wrote:
<quoted text>
Since you obviously are at least proficient in math, listen carefully to a sweeter version of election results. Maybe it will
make the truth that Mr. Malone is only Number Two a little easier to swallow.
Alls Ima Sayin is that "If everybody that voted for retired educator, Mr. Malone, on November 5th, brought PrinciPAL Ron a Donut; then Mr. Malone would have a total of 5673 donuts; And if everybody that voted for community business man, Charles Anderson, brought Mr.Anderson a donut, then Mr. Anderson would have a total of 6086 donuts, which is Number One the sweetest place on the ballot, over Mr. Malones Number Two place. Number Two just has to
try harder; not sure that Mr. Malone can FIT his past experience into the challeges that lie ahead, with his PROVEN past employment record of keeping our kids behind.
Nobody is debating that Anderson garnered more votes, you silly goose. Your PERCENTAGES were WAY WRONG. I'm totally happy as long as MSA got on the board, the order makes no difference to me at all. I know all three of them personally, and I'm quite happy with the outcome of the election!
Just Listening

Springboro, OH

#29181 Nov 14, 2013
Wow Wow Wow wrote:
.
THE COMMUNITY HAS SPOKEN. YOU NEED TO LISTEN.
Just Listening. So tell me now, which one of Principal Rons's kids on this blog has totaled spreading the most lies?

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