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Question

Dayton, OH

#28114 Oct 21, 2013
In viewing the Vaughn/Bitner site and following their explanation for the volations on the signs they state:

"Your Candidates for membership on the Springboro School Board: you only need to vote for two!"

Isn't this a false statement since the ballot will state you need to vote for three?
Thats Silly

Ft Mitchell, KY

#28115 Oct 21, 2013
Question wrote:
In viewing the Vaughn/Bitner site and following their explanation for the volations on the signs they state:
"Your Candidates for membership on the Springboro School Board: you only need to vote for two!"
Isn't this a false statement since the ballot will state you need to vote for three?
It actually states: For Member of Board of Education(Vote for not more than 3). Nobody can force you to vote for anyone. If you only want to vote for two, just vote for two. If you only want to vote for one, just vote for one. You can't vote for more than three though.
http://voterfind.tzo.org/warrenoh/data/201311...
DIDYOU KNOW

Cleveland, OH

#28116 Oct 21, 2013
Did you know that as a Springboro resident, you have a vote in the Clearcreek Township Trustee Election!

Did you know that WADE & LAMB is spending YOUR hard earned taxpayer's funds to cover their CRIMINAL ACTS! They held off the trial until after the NOVEMBER election. Here is what the Ohio Appeals Court said...

Ohio — A lawsuit challenging a township's longstanding practice of holding informal gatherings before official public meetings is headed back to a southwest Ohio court.

An Ohio 12th District Court of Appeals judge ruled recently that the lawsuit was dismissed prematurely by a Warren County court. He sent it back to resolve conflicting testimony on whether Clearcreek Township trustees are violating state open meetings law.

Judge Robert Ringland wrote that were too many unanswered questions, including whether the "pre-meeting meetings were prearranged, what the purpose of the meetings was and whether deliberations took place therein." Township officials defend the practice of having informal gatherings in the administrator's office ahead of the twice-monthly township meetings.

Dennis Hetzel, executive director of the Ohio Newspaper Association, thinks the township practice is questionable.

"When they have these information-gathering sessions, if they are discussing stuff, I think you can argue that they are deliberating," Hetzel said. "If they start asking questions or discussing, they have moved over from information-gathering to deliberating."

PLEASE, for the sake of our community, DO NOT PUT WADE & LAMB back into office.
Vote Bitner-Vaughn

Akron, OH

#28117 Oct 21, 2013
Visit www.SupportBoroStudents.com
SUPPORT THE PROGRESS MADE IN THE PAST TWO YEARS...
Renewal levy that saves taxpayers $6.5 million.
Reduced school fees, lower pay to participate fees, as well as restored busing, and building maintenance.
We believe over taxation of the taxpayers is wrong!
We believe in supporting the amount of necessary taxation required to do the job correctly.
We believe that excess tax money in any government body tends to insopire creative ways to spend that money.
We believe transparency, from budgeting to policy formulation to meetings, leads to good governance in all levels of government.
We believe in maintaining fiscal integrity and
We believe in LISTENING ....and That's a Good Thing!
You Are Invited to meet and greet your
Students First/Responsible Budgeting
School Board Candidates
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn
October 21, 2013
6:30 p.m.- 8:30 p.m.
205 East St.
Springboro, Ohio 45066

Since: Sep 12

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#28118 Oct 21, 2013
Question wrote:
In viewing the Vaughn/Bitner site and following their explanation for the volations on the signs they state:
"Your Candidates for membership on the Springboro School Board: you only need to vote for two!"
Isn't this a false statement since the ballot will state you need to vote for three?
no you can vote for two but they elect the top 3
real information here

Miamisburg, OH

#28119 Oct 21, 2013
Vote MSA wrote:
The MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE in this upcoming election is and should always be who will guide the district in the best direction for THE STUDENTS.
.... More students were encouraged to take PSEO but in reality many of those students are getting less of an education.
So tell us how the PSEO students are getting less of an education. They still have to meet all the state requirements to graduate. Are you saying that the state requirements PLUS college classes would mean LESS of an education than just state requirements? You are correct the most important issue is the students. However, your Less is better argument clearly shows you are not worried about the students.
truth to power

Cleveland, OH

#28120 Oct 21, 2013
DIDYOU KNOW wrote:
PLEASE, for the sake of our community, DO NOT PUT WADE back into office.
Me thinks it's something way beyond coincidence that a certain incumbant township trustee's surname rhymes with... "PAID".
go to rear of class

Cleveland, OH

#28121 Oct 21, 2013
Observer wrote:
BLAH BLAH BLAH.....AKA DOUG WEIDEMAN YOUR AN IDIOT!
Re:
YOUR / YOU'RE

Unlike you, "idiot" Doug Wiedeman has a solid grasp of how to properly utilize a contraction.
Non Partisan

Akron, OH

#28122 Oct 21, 2013
truth to power wrote:
<quoted text>
Me thinks it's something way beyond coincidence that a certain incumbant township trustee's surname rhymes with... "PAID".
Voters who are for electing local government officials who are responsible spenders of our hard earned money should look carefully beyond the symbolism of "Conservative Republican"
claim of township trustee candidate, Dale Lamb.

Shouldn't local government leaders have only the best interest of serving their constituents, regardless of political party interest? Shouldn't our local government leaders be Independent
Thinkers, instead of flocking together to protect party politics for the Union?

Vote to Re-Elect the Township Trustee that has a proven record of
putting Springboro Familes best interest First, keeping our family homes both safe and affordable! It's a Good Thing!

Remember on November 5, 2013, to vote for the re-election of
Cathy Anspach, the only Township Trustee that voted against
putting the May 2013 fire levy tax increase of 93% on the ballot!

Remember ONLY re-electing Cathy Anspach will ensure protection of Township homeowners against a status-quo business as usual pro-
union controlled Clearcreek Township local government.

Vote to Re-Elect Cathy Anspach on November 5, 2013!
StayThe Course

Cleveland, OH

#28123 Oct 21, 2013
This is a pivotal school board election. The outcome of this election will affect the direction of this district for years, and possibly decades to come. We may choose to regress toward a repetition of many of the mistakes this district has made in the past by consciously voting for a union-controlled school board.

Or we can stay the course by continuing in a fiscally responsible manner, ensuring that meeting kids’ educational needs are the first priority. The school board exists to represent the interests of parents and the public providing a check and balance to assure the school system meets the needs of the community.
Parent and community representation are critical. David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are both parents of children enrolled in Springboro Schools and have committed to making education their top priority. Bitner and Vaughn support the “Children First” philosophy.

Two of David’s and Kolton’s opponents – Ron Malone, former high school principal and David Stuckey a former teacher – retired this last year. Electing these two and their partner Charles Anderson would create a school board where none of the 5 members is parent with children enrolled in school. My advice is to elect a couple of men with young kids to the board. The school district already has 400 employees with Education background and experience.

Unions are doing to public education what they have done to GM and Chrysler. Quality of education is declining as the unions force more money into compensation and away from improving the product – highly educated children. The result is persistent requests for additional taxes as the school system’s resources are drained.

Our board has been able to strike a balance that is sustainable, but negotiations will begin again in March 2015. The teacher’s union supports the Malone, Stuckey, Anderson ticket and hopes to get two very friendly allies on the school board. It is important to have Bitner and Vaughn on the board as advocates for parents and children during the next round of negotiations.
A UNION CONTROLLED BOARD WILL PLACE PRIORITY ON MEETING THE DESIRES OF ITS MEMBERS.


Vote 4
David Bitner &
Kolton Vaughn
PSEO

Dayton, OH

#28124 Oct 21, 2013
real information here wrote:
<quoted text>
So tell us how the PSEO students are getting less of an education. They still have to meet all the state requirements to graduate. Are you saying that the state requirements PLUS college classes would mean LESS of an education than just state requirements? You are correct the most important issue is the students. However, your Less is better argument clearly shows you are not worried about the students.
I never argued that less is better. But the fact is I am not a fan of the PSEO option simply because it can allow students to take it easy. Take a poll for yourself, how many PSEO students are in class the same number of hours that a typical HS student is. How many are taking only one or two classes and the rest of the time spent doing nothing. How many PSEO students aren't being challenged by their PSEO classes? Maybe I shouldn't compare to when I went to school, but I was able to take challenging classes all the way through school up to graduation. There was not a time when I didn't have options for classes to take, even when my graduation requirements were completed. I don't think the same can be said for Springboro.
Fair and Balanced

Akron, OH

#28125 Oct 21, 2013
Fair and Balanced!
Children's First Budgeting Works!
Putting Children First!
It's a good thing...
for our children, our community and toward a better future for our schools!

Fresh ideas have allowed our district to sustain itself in an uncertain economy with NO new money required.
Vote YES for Reduced Renewal Levy on November 5, 2013!

Just say No to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson status quo
business as usual failed practices of the past...

Vote Yes! Yes! for our Children's First Budgeting
school board candidates, David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn, whose leadership as elected board representatives will continue to challenge the status quo where need be... in the direction of common sense and fiscal responsibility.

Vote For David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn!
Parents Representing Parents!
Students First!
Responsible Budgeting!
The Next Day

Cincinnati, OH

#28126 Oct 21, 2013
PSEO wrote:
<quoted text>
I never argued that less is better. But the fact is I am not a fan of the PSEO option simply because it can allow students to take it easy. Take a poll for yourself, how many PSEO students are in class the same number of hours that a typical HS student is. How many are taking only one or two classes and the rest of the time spent doing nothing. How many PSEO students aren't being challenged by their PSEO classes? Maybe I shouldn't compare to when I went to school, but I was able to take challenging classes all the way through school up to graduation. There was not a time when I didn't have options for classes to take, even when my graduation requirements were completed. I don't think the same can be said for Springboro.
Related note: the more competitive colleges, tend to accept AP classes and not PESO. Reason being, the AP classes must met national criteria whereas the PESO classes do not as they could be taught by a wide range of types and quality of colleges. I have personally had this confirmed when asking questions during college visits. Based on recent comments made by the BOE in their meetings, I think they have now gained an understanding of this. I was concerned earlier on that they thought PESO classes were the solution to everything. They can be an excellent option for students who plan on attending the less competitive colleges. Both PESO and AP classes are good, just in different situations.
Out of Balance

Akron, OH

#28127 Oct 21, 2013
PSEO wrote:
<quoted text>
I never argued that less is better. But the fact is I am not a fan of the PSEO option simply because it can allow students to take it easy. Take a poll for yourself, how many PSEO students are in class the same number of hours that a typical HS student is. How many are taking only one or two classes and the rest of the time spent doing nothing. How many PSEO students aren't being challenged by their PSEO classes? Maybe I shouldn't compare to when I went to school, but I was able to take challenging classes all the way through school up to graduation. There was not a time when I didn't have options for classes to take, even when my graduation requirements were completed. I don't think the same can be said for Springboro.
...Anytime the status quo changes, there is resistance. Panicked petitions and hysterical headlines have made things "FEEL" out of balance. So now, our slate of three candidates want to return to the past - which "FELT" balanced.

...However, today we can see just how far out of balance we actually WERE under the previous leadership. Some of the imbalances of the past include:

Capping high school class sizes in the 20s; while other grades who most need teacher attention, had larger class sizes (often up to 30).

Teaching the majority to meet the Proficient standard; while our district receives a "D" in gifted education and a "C" for our more challenged, lowest 20%.

Ignoring the changing curriculum and testing standards for students.

Charging higher pay-to-play and school fees than were necessary.

Failing to plan for technology in our classrooms and then spending resources on wireless technology that was inadequate and required replacement.

Ignoring recommendations to improve the rigor of our high school academic programs by failing to promote college credit options for our students.

Reacting to circumstances and spending more than budgeted instead of planning to invest and keeping up our buildings, grounds and
bus fleet.

Assuming the only solution was higher taxes and hoping for a new levy to pass.

...These are symptoms of the status quo controlling a schol district that lost its balance. Why would we give control back to those who slowed this district's progress?
Those who inflated budget forecasts? Those who ignored the capital needs of the District? Most importantly, why would we elect the same people who neglected to put Children First in our schools?

HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD MIS-USE OUR CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
Vote Bitner-Vaughn

Akron, OH

#28128 Oct 21, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
Related note: the more competitive colleges, tend to accept AP classes and not PESO. Reason being, the AP classes must met national criteria whereas the PESO classes do not as they could be taught by a wide range of types and quality of colleges. I have personally had this confirmed when asking questions during college visits. Based on recent comments made by the BOE in their meetings, I think they have now gained an understanding of this. I was concerned earlier on that they thought PESO classes were the solution to everything. They can be an excellent option for students who plan on attending the less competitive colleges. Both PESO and AP classes are good, just in different situations.
"Where the board's at right now is wanting the highest academic achievement and fiscal responsibility," Petrey said. "That's what I stand for."

Only school board candidates DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN are parents representing parents, who should be elected our next two school board representatives.

Students First/Responsible Budgeting school board candidates,
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are committed to ensuring that
all children of the Springboro community receive an excellent education, while keeping the costs of that education affordable
by carefully adhering to responsible spending.

VOTE NOVEMBER 5, 2013 FOR CHILDREN FIRST!
VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN!
Vote Bitner-Vaughn

Akron, OH

#28129 Oct 21, 2013
Out of Balance wrote:
<quoted text>
...Anytime the status quo changes, there is resistance. Panicked petitions and hysterical headlines have made things "FEEL" out of balance. So now, our slate of three candidates want to return to the past - which "FELT" balanced.
...However, today we can see just how far out of balance we actually WERE under the previous leadership. Some of the imbalances of the past include:
Capping high school class sizes in the 20s; while other grades who most need teacher attention, had larger class sizes (often up to 30).
Teaching the majority to meet the Proficient standard; while our district receives a "D" in gifted education and a "C" for our more challenged, lowest 20%.
Ignoring the changing curriculum and testing standards for students.
Charging higher pay-to-play and school fees than were necessary.
Failing to plan for technology in our classrooms and then spending resources on wireless technology that was inadequate and required replacement.
Ignoring recommendations to improve the rigor of our high school academic programs by failing to promote college credit options for our students.
Reacting to circumstances and spending more than budgeted instead of planning to invest and keeping up our buildings, grounds and
bus fleet.
Assuming the only solution was higher taxes and hoping for a new levy to pass.
...These are symptoms of the status quo controlling a schol district that lost its balance. Why would we give control back to those who slowed this district's progress?
Those who inflated budget forecasts? Those who ignored the capital needs of the District? Most importantly, why would we elect the same people who neglected to put Children First in our schools?
HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD MIS-USE OUR CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
HOW WOULD A UNION CONTROLLED SCHOOL BOARD MIS-USE OUR CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?

Simply put, a Malone/Stuckey/Anderson controlled school board would re-instate the business as usual SEA agenda of union first best financial interests..... No fresh ideas, No Fixing Budgets, No Levy Alternatives... Just business as usual...Assuming the only solution was higher taxes and hoping for a new levy to pass.

Why would our community want to go back to Malone/Stuckey/Anderson status quo leadership?

Why would anyone who cares about the future of our children, our schools, and our community not vote for David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn as our next two board representatives, who will provide continuous 4-1 BOE majority Children First Budgeting successful leadership?
Inexperience

Dayton, OH

#28130 Oct 21, 2013
HOW WOULD AN INEXPERIENCED SCHOOL BOARD MIS-USE OUR CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
Non Partisan

Akron, OH

#28131 Oct 21, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
Related note: the more competitive colleges, tend to accept AP classes and not PESO. Reason being, the AP classes must met national criteria whereas the PESO classes do not as they could be taught by a wide range of types and quality of colleges. I have personally had this confirmed when asking questions during college visits. Based on recent comments made by the BOE in their meetings, I think they have now gained an understanding of this. I was concerned earlier on that they thought PESO classes were the solution to everything. They can be an excellent option for students who plan on attending the less competitive colleges. Both PESO and AP classes are good, just in different situations.
...based on recent comments made by the BOE in their meetings, I think they have now gained an understanding of this....

Thanks to the good leadership of our current Students First
BOE members, Kelly Kohls and Wendy Kull, who are Parents Representing Parents... Now, ALL parents in our school district have gained an understanding of something was "hidden" by prevous school leaders...

Keep in mind that the Superintendents Survey of Students asking what characteristics the high school principal should have
revealed... Ron Malone's weakness in advising PARENTS how they could work with the school district to ensure that all students were challenged to reach their highest individual academic potential....

And that's not a good thing for the Malone/Stuckey/Anderson
school board campaign. If Mr. Malone did not put Students Highest Individual Academic Achievement FIRST when he was serving as High School Principal, how can he have the WILL and the SKILL to put Students First as an elected BOE official?

I hope you are as tired of the controversy surrounding the school board as I am. The controversy has been exaggerated by MSA's supporters to gain advantage and influence this election against the incumbent board members. The best way to move beyond the controversy is to not perpetuate it by electing one side then the next repeatedly.

Only two school board candidates, DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN, are independent thinkers without allegiance to any faction.
The time has now come to end the controversy by electing
DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN as our next two school board representatives on November 5, 2013.
Non Partisan

Akron, OH

#28132 Oct 21, 2013
Inexperience wrote:
HOW WOULD AN INEXPERIENCED SCHOOL BOARD MIS-USE OUR CHILDREN'S FIRST BUDGETING SCHOOL TAX DOLLARS?
Don't worry about inexperienced union first school board candidates gaining control of our Children's First Budgeting school tax dollars.
Just Say No to the status quo business as usual Ron Malone/
David Stuckey/Charles Anderson leadership, so that our children's 21st century quality classroom education will never suffer again from Malone's inept leadership of past failed practices.

Just VOTE YES! YES! for DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN,
who are the only two school board candidates, who are on board
with our current board's successful Children's First leadership...

Remember in November that Two plus Two Children's First board representatives equals a 4-1 BOE Children's First Majority!
There is no place in our children's 21st Century classroom education for the status quo union first leadership of
school board candidates Ron Malone/David Stuckey/Charles Anderson.

Why would our community want to turn back?
Inexperience

Dayton, OH

#28133 Oct 21, 2013
Non Partisan wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't worry about inexperienced union first school board candidates gaining control of our Children's First Budgeting school tax dollars.
Just Say No to the status quo business as usual Ron Malone/
David Stuckey/Charles Anderson leadership, so that our children's 21st century quality classroom education will never suffer again from Malone's inept leadership of past failed practices.
Just VOTE YES! YES! for DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN,
who are the only two school board candidates, who are on board
with our current board's successful Children's First leadership...
Remember in November that Two plus Two Children's First board representatives equals a 4-1 BOE Children's First Majority!
There is no place in our children's 21st Century classroom education for the status quo union first leadership of
school board candidates Ron Malone/David Stuckey/Charles Anderson.
Why would our community want to turn back?
You can't turn back time. It's impossible. I've seen the way the inexperienced handle their compliance with SIMPLE election rules. They failed. Now their signs are all written on with the "sharpie of shame". Looks real professional.

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