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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28027 Oct 17, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Numero Uno:
Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano began investigating athletic funding, the pay to participate policy and its thin justification, and various support organizations for those extracurricular programs. The amount of cooperation they received from each group was appallingly hesitant and drug out. Support from the nominal leader, Mr. Malone, of the staff and the school district would have gone to great lengths to expedite the process. Alas, it did not come.
Numero Dos:
Thank you for pointing out the importance of a comma.
No, technology is the hardware involved in transferring digital information to our children.
Numero Tres:
You are correct and the first attempt made to make our schools wireless resulted in a $500,000 spent for an underpowered, glitchy system that did not work as advertised and was ultimately scrapped.
Our schools now enjoy an integrated wireless network that functions the way it is supposed to function and is scalable for future needs and requirements.
Money well spent this time vs money ill spent originally.
Numero Cuatro:
National attention on left wing blogs aimed at furthering an unsustainable narrative isn't really what I would term national attention.
Maybe CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, NBS, the Washington Post, the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Los Angeles Times, the San Francisco Examiner, etc were at all of our board meetings.
I must have missed them.
Perhaps you have missed yesterday's front page of the Dayton Daily News, of the ever growing number of children taking advantage of early college credit options. Compare that story with the one written by the Warren County Education Service Center in January 2013 about Springboro.
According to the Warren County Educational Service Center reports from 2007, 2010, and 2013, Mr. Malone was engaged in a process that was going in the complete opposite of what the Dayton Daily News reports as a growing interest in the Post Secondary Education Option (PSEO) program, A/P classes, or dual credit high school classes. It would appear funding money had nothing to do with those choices Mr. Malone was making, as the levy up for current renewal was generating the full amount the entire time period under discussion.
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https://docs.google.com/a/springboro.org/file...
"Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the HSTW philosophy, SHS
believes that offering low~level courses is in the best interest of students.≠ This belief,
however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED by research or data."
"Although SHS offers numerous AP and PSEO options, only 20% of the students report they attempted to earn college credit during high school. This is a DECREASE of 43% from 2008, and 60% below the High Schools That Work goal."
Those numbers would mean we had 35% of our students engaged in these courses in 2008.
It would also mean the standard the High Schools That Work program is seeking for a community such as ours would be 50% participation.
For 13 years Mr. Malone had the opportunity and duty to mold a culture within our high school that reflected the community's respect and desire for a challenging education for our children.
Mr. Malone delivered just the opposite.
Vote Bitner, Vaughn, and Anderson
1) The record shows differently.
2) You're welcome
3) I guess Malone put in the original system, must have been his fault somehow.
4) I would suggest that the Huffington Post is as national as the New York Times. I guess all the tv crews at the board meetings are always at every meeting.
5) The board also had an obligation and stood by and did NOTHING.

Vote for who you want...
No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28028 Oct 17, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
No, because the majority of tax payers in this district do not have any children in the school system.
Mr. Rigano's children have graduated from our system.
With the current board you have parents with children in Lytle Five Points, Intermediate School, Junior High, and High School.
With a Malone, Stuckey, and Anderson led school board you would have no parents with children in any of our schools.
The only two running for school board that would have actual experience with the consequences of board decisions would be Bitner and Vaughn.
But didn't Stuckey and Anderson have kids who graduated from our system?

A former teacher and a former high school principal don't have any experience with consequences of board decisions?
Clear choice

Xenia, OH

#28029 Oct 17, 2013
How would a school board without experience in our education system mis-use your Children's First Budgeting school tax dollars?
No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28030 Oct 17, 2013
What small business does Bitner manage? Why the silence on this question?
Just Asking

Akron, OH

#28031 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
What small business does Bitner manage? Why the silence on this question?
Excuse me, Why zoom in on targeting only one of the two
non-union conservative school board candidates?

Why the silence on what occupation the other conservative
non-union school board candidate does in the work place
to earn daily bread for himself and his family?
Remember in November

Akron, OH

#28032 Oct 17, 2013
Clear choice wrote:
How would a school board without experience in our education system mis-use your Children's First Budgeting school tax dollars?
Remember in November that school board candidate Ron Malone
was among the large number of pro-levy union activists, who
endorsed the May 2013 unnecessary 93% fire levy tax increase
on every family's home in our Springboro/Clearcreek Twp voting district. Remember that a few responsible citizens cared enough about keeping our great schools and good neighborhoods, both safe and affordable for our children and grandchildren, that they got to work and spread the truth about the deception of the CCFD Kidd and the unnecessary tax increase levy was defeated.
Just as the CCFD Kidd had decided that the time had come for people to pay more for safety services than was needed,
a union controlled Malone/Stuckey/Anderson board majority will
mis-use our children's first budgeting school tax dollars in the same old status quo way -- promoting a continuous stream of new levies just because the time has come for the school government to collect more taxes and spread the collective wealth around only amongst the union employees.

Remember in November that our current 4-1 BOE majority stands
for fiscal responsibility, firmly supporting our Springboro Schools Superintendent, who working together are committed to ensuring that the children of the Springboro community receive an excellent education, while keeping the costs of that education affordable by carefully adhering to responsible spending.

Remember in November to vote ONLY for the TWO conservative,
responsible budgeting school board candidates, DAVID BITNER and
KOLTON VAUGHN, who are the only TWO children's first candidates and should be our TWO highest votes elected officials on
November 5, 2013!

Time to get to work people!
Spread the exciting news that DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
are the only TWO school board candidates who are a good FIT
with our current board and school district leaders moving ahead
to a better future for our schools and community.

Vote for David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn on November 5, 2013!
Children's First Budgeting Works!
It's a winning ticket for all students, teachers, school district employees, parents, and taxpaying homeowners!
truth to power

Girard, OH

#28033 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
4) I would suggest that the Huffington Post is as national as the New York Times.
LOL! The huff post doesn't have enough integrity to construct bird cage lining.
Remember in November

Akron, OH

#28034 Oct 17, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
No, because the majority of tax payers in this district do not have any children in the school system.
Mr. Rigano's children have graduated from our system.
With the current board you have parents with children in Lytle Five Points, Intermediate School, Junior High, and High School.
With a Malone, Stuckey, and Anderson led school board you would have no parents with children in any of our schools.
The only two running for school board that would have actual experience with the consequences of board decisions would be Bitner and Vaughn.
Remember in November that ALL Students, Parents, Teachers and School Employees, Springboro families, and Taxpaying homeowners
... WOULD HAVE ACTUAL BAD FINANCIAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A UNION CONTROLLED MALONE/STUCKEY/ANDERSON
BOE MAJORITY....

Vote November 5, 2013, for school board candidates who will
serve our schools and community in the best interest of all
students, school community of employees, and our community of Springboro taxpayers!

EVERYBODY WINS BY VOTING YES! FOR REDUCED RENEWAL LEVY AND
YES! YES! FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN WHO SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
AND IN SUPPORT OF OUR CHILDREN'S WIHT DEverybody wins with a YES for Reduced
Renewal Levy and a Y&es
Remember in November

Akron, OH

#28035 Oct 17, 2013
Remember in November that ALL Students, Parents, Teachers and School Employees, Springboro families, and Taxpaying homeowners
... WOULD HAVE ACTUAL BAD FINANCIAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A UNION CONTROLLED MALONE/STUCKEY/ANDERSON
BOE MAJORITY....

Vote November 5, 2013, for school board candidates who will
serve our schools and community in the best interest of all
students, school community of employees, and our community of Springboro taxpayers!

EVERYBODY WINS BY VOTING YES! FOR REDUCED RENEWAL LEVY AND
YES! YES! FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN WHO SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
truth to power

Girard, OH

#28036 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
But didn't Stuckey and Anderson have kids who graduated from our system?
A former teacher and a former high school principal don't have any experience with consequences of board decisions?
Read my lips very carefully...

H-A-V-I-N-G

A

F-O-R-M-E-R

P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L

A-N-D

A

T-E-A-C-H-E-R

O-N

B-O-R-O-'s

S-C-H-O-O-L

B-O-A-R-D

I-S

A

C-O-N-F-L-I-C-T

O-F

I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T
peripheral pieces

Girard, OH

#28037 Oct 17, 2013
Hey jobe, don't make it bad
Take some great signs and make them better
Remember to get yourself a real life
Then you will start to feel better

Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28038 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
1) The record shows differently.
You would be wrong once again, the boosters, with the blessing of the school administration at the time, were happy with the status quo.

So happy in fact, that they put Mr. Harves into the Springboro Athletic Hall of Fame in January 2012.

Hard to believe that the boosters would have sanctioned this, and the school administration would have agreed, if they were on to Mr. Harves antics before Mr. Petroni and Mr Rigano began pressing the organization for financial accountability.

The persistency month in and month out in the Budget and Finance Committee, led by Mr Petroni and Mr Rigano, ultimately led Mr. Harves to realize the game was up. Mr. Harves consequently gave up the ghost, turned in what monies he could muster, and went down to the police station in June 2012.

The boosters then went into blame the board for everything else mode, including the desire to "steal" their money at a rally held in North Park called SOS (Save our Sports). Go back on topix to read contemporaneous descriptions of what transpired, or even the Dayton Daily News coverage, and television coverage of the rally.

Where was Mr. Malone when all of this chicanery was transpiring?

Where was Mr. Malone's leadership and firm moral rectitude when the community needed someone to rein in the high school support organization to better deal with the loss of over $1,000,000 in booster funds (if you believe that he did more than just write checks to himself for only 7 of the 20 years Mr. Harves was in charge of the money and never touched the bags of uncounted cash on the kitchen table)

Did Mr. Malone demand more financial controls and accountability within the groups that supported his high school?

No

Did Mr. Malone work with the board to formulate policy that would help preclude this sort of thing from happening in the future?

Nope

Did Mr. Malone work to quell the misdirected tension and anger from blame the school board to its proper source, the booster board who neglected to perform their most basic tasks?

Not in the least

Where was Mr. Malone when all of this transpired?

Where was Mr. Malone's compassion for the children, parents, and community when it was found that they had been robbed during his tenure?

No where to be found, just like when Mr. Malone was supposed to be providing oversight for his high school's support groups.
No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28039 Oct 17, 2013
truth to power wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my lips very carefully...
H-A-V-I-N-G
A
F-O-R-M-E-R
P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L
A-N-D
A
T-E-A-C-H-E-R
O-N
B-O-R-O-'s
S-C-H-O-O-L
B-O-A-R-D
I-S
A
C-O-N-F-L-I-C-T
O-F
I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T
AND JOINING THE OSBLC (founded by our BOE president) IS NOT A CONFLICT?
No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28040 Oct 17, 2013
Remember in November wrote:
Remember in November that ALL Students, Parents, Teachers and School Employees, Springboro families, and Taxpaying homeowners
... WOULD HAVE ACTUAL BAD FINANCIAL EXPERIENCES WITH THE CONSEQUENCES OF A UNION CONTROLLED MALONE/STUCKEY/ANDERSON
BOE MAJORITY....
Vote November 5, 2013, for school board candidates who will
serve our schools and community in the best interest of all
students, school community of employees, and our community of Springboro taxpayers!
EVERYBODY WINS BY VOTING YES! FOR REDUCED RENEWAL LEVY AND
YES! YES! FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN WHO SHOULD BE OUR NEXT TWO ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD REPRESENTATIVES!
Again, which candidates are a part of a union?
H-O-W

Springboro, OH

#28041 Oct 17, 2013
truth to power wrote:
<quoted text>
Read my lips very carefully...
H-A-V-I-N-G
A
F-O-R-M-E-R
P-R-I-N-C-I-P-A-L
A-N-D
A
T-E-A-C-H-E-R
O-N
B-O-R-O-'s
S-C-H-O-O-L
B-O-A-R-D
I-S
A
C-O-N-F-L-I-C-T
O-F
I-N-T-E-R-E-S-T
H-O-W I-S I-T A CONFLICT? Could a former custodian run? How about a former classroom aide?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28042 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>

4) I would suggest that the Huffington Post is as national as the New York Times. I guess all the tv crews at the board meetings are always at every meeting.
.
You might wish to call the New York Times and ask them if they consider the liberal aggregator of left wing blogs a news organization on par with their world wide news gathering and reporting organization that is engaged throughout the world in its pursuit.

I can only imagine the number of New Yorkers waiting with baited breath to read the summation of a board meeting in Springboro, OH.
Missing the point

Youngstown, OH

#28043 Oct 17, 2013
We are an upscale community. Tea partiers are being run off. They have done too much damage to Springboro already. We republicans are taking our city back. It is time. Kelly Kohls has more sense than any of you, she knew she did not have a chance to get back on the board. Tea Partiers....BE GONE
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#28044 Oct 17, 2013
H-O-W wrote:
<quoted text>
H-O-W I-S I-T A CONFLICT? Could a former custodian run? How about a former classroom aide?
Surprisingly I agree, it is not a conflict of interest for Mr. Malone to run. It would only be a conflict of interest if he were negotiating his own contract or any item of business that would personally benefit himself to a greater degree than it would the general public.

Anyone is free to run if they so wish.

It is up to the electorate to make that decision as to their viability or not.

While Mr. Malone may have been in management and as such not a member of the union, he did manage to support just about every move the union made.

Ever see a levy run around here that did not have Mr. Malone's endorsement attached?

How many of those unnecessary levies dtd Mr. Malone support for the benefit of the unions?

Let us count up five failed school levies that were unnecessary, wasted time, energy, and precious resources.

How about the August election attempt to raise taxes to generate even more money for a Fire Department that continues to bring in over $1,000,000 per year than they spend now?

That money was supposed to be used to pay for the 16 new unionized firefighters and administrators hired by using "FREE" federal grant money from Homeland Security to save existing jobs from loss due to reductions in tax bases brought on by the Great Recession. Now that the money has run out the extra firefighters we did not need are part of an expanded union presence on our public payrolls. 16 new bodies to help maintain the same level of service we enjoyed without issue for three years prior to the new hires.

Mr. Malone was front and center supporting that boondoggle.

Conflict of interest? NO

Poor judgement and putting the union wants before the taxpayers who fund everything? YES
We all know you are MSA

Miamisburg, OH

#28045 Oct 17, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
What small business does Bitner manage? Why the silence on this question?
Have you asked? I looks like they have a place on their website where you could ask questions, but I guess it make it better for the MSA guys if you make it sound sinister. Why donít you try asking instead of spreading your poison? I can see why people just donít run for office. I hope these guys stick with it. I wonder what your next dirty trick is?
No debate means No choice

Xenia, OH

#28046 Oct 17, 2013
We all know you are MSA wrote:
<quoted text>
Have you asked? I looks like they have a place on their website where you could ask questions, but I guess it make it better for the MSA guys if you make it sound sinister. Why donít you try asking instead of spreading your poison? I can see why people just donít run for office. I hope these guys stick with it. I wonder what your next dirty trick is?
After all the scrutiny of MSA on this board I'm just surprised there is not as much thrown the way of the other candidates.

And, I'm neither M or S or A.

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