If this is the case then we can expect the MAS to not hear one bit about all the numbers that Doug has been posting. Which begs the question, where does the mayor get his list of questions from?<quoted text>
Actually, I believe the moderator is the only person who is able to ask questions during a debate. I believe we all know what kind of questions the good old boys will be asked. Union supported people sitting down to have a "debate" with other union supported people, sounds like everything will be on the up and up, LOL!!!
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#27810 Oct 10, 2013
#27811 Oct 10, 2013
Thats a copout, have you not heard candidates formulate questions directed towards their opponents during a debate before? Why doesn't B/V call a debate and invite MSA? At least if MSA is a no show we call heard these two candidates speak.
#27812 Oct 10, 2013
Have you ever seen a debate? I have seen several candidates throw a question at their opponent. If a question is asked the candidate can answer the question, tie it to one he wants to answer and throw it by ending with "I'd like to know how my opponent feels about that". It's a key debating tactic.
I guess if you can't stand the heat...
#27813 Oct 10, 2013
No one bashes the NRA? You have got to be kidding they are among the favorite targets for bashing by the media and liberals day in and day out.
#27814 Oct 10, 2013
It would certainly be creepy if you are advocating elected leaders bypass parents and go directly to the children as their wards of state. That sounds like a Ron Malone platform plank I would strenuously disagree with in total.
Last I checked, parents are the legal guardians of their children, as such parents are in the best position to decide what is best and right for their child.
Giving a voice to parents with children in our district certainly cannot be a bad thing?
The current board contains three people with children in the district schools. Since all are retiring, who is left to represent actual parents with children in the district?
After all did the certain segments of the community not attempt to crush Mr. Petroni for not having his children in the district classrooms?
Is this just a case of union situational ethics?
I am all for flying the flag proudly. Free elections are America's backbone, I agree whole heartedly with you on that point.
And let us not forget those who gave all and did not come back, it is the least we can do.
#27815 Oct 10, 2013
Have you noticed that as well?
The board bashers go to great lengths to manufacture conflict that does not exist, oppose everything the board proposes, stonewall answers, and provide less than full information when requested.
The one thing the board bashers never seem to do is analyze our district test results.
The state provides over a decades worth of historical data on this subject, yet they never seem to touch it or provide any alternative interpretation as to why PROFICIENT is FAILURE.
Absolutely no one has come forth to defend the granting of the title PROFICIENT to a child who has scored a 34% on an Ohio Achievement Assessment test.
What could they possibly be afraid of in this area?
#27816 Oct 10, 2013
I was reffering to those here bashing the SEA not bashing the NRA.
#27817 Oct 10, 2013
1) The reason communities support teachers is because teachers teach CHILDREN who of course collectively represent this nation's future.
2) Quite obviously you're all about placing a unique slant on matters such as this. The Bitner / Vaughn campaign has implemented multiple slogans including "Students First", "Parents Representing Parents" and "Responsible Budgeting".
3) Attn: Dale Lamb
The use of PICTURES of American flags is one thing. The misuse of ACTUAL American flags is another thing altogether.
4) "Biased" is the word you were in search of, not "biast".
5) The last point you attempt to make is senseless. However, I can tell you this: Unlike you, they have a strong grasp of the correct use in English punctuation in that the Bitner / Vaughn website doesn't misuse apostropes in the words... "Student's" and "Parent's".
#27818 Oct 10, 2013
Once again with the "P" word. What do other districts do by comparison? Is the test graded on a curve? What were the numbers like a decade ago? I would attest that compared to Japan our children are not "PROFICIENT".
According to the PISA the USA ranks as follows:
Maths: 30 out of 65
Sciences: 23 out of 65
Reading: 17 out of 65.
Guess who is 1st in all 3 China (a communist country, I believe).
Granted, their one child policy helps them in this so are you suggesting that in order to become "proficient" we bring in the one child policy and adopt communism?
#27819 Oct 10, 2013
I guess I'm just proof of how "PROFICIENT" the US education system is. Again with the English lessons, are you a teacher? Oh wait, you'd have to join a union...sorry.
Even through my misuse of "proper" English you still were able to get my point. "LOL"
#27820 Oct 10, 2013
And exactly how is the flag being "misused".
Also, you spelled apostrophes wrong!
#27821 Oct 10, 2013
interesting that wherever I see those black signs of Malone's, the property owners are big union fans...very interesting...what was that about the kids ? Unless one has been on the planet Mars, it's a given if the union people take control of the school board, we will immediately see a levy put on the ballot !
#27822 Oct 10, 2013
Planet of the Apes. 1968. The final scene...
Charlton Heston & Linda Harrison are making an escape on horseback, striking out alone on a sandy, desolate beach. Heston glaces up from the beach to notice something odd above the shoreline over to his left. In a mere split second, Heston realizes his own, as well as all of humanity's destiny.
On a global scale, STUBBORNNESS AND GREED are indirectly responsible for the scourges of war, and the poverty, pestilence and disease outbreaks that often go with them.
For the past two to three generations, American educators have been riding in tandem along the beach. In solidarity, they refuse to move their eyes from the tail end of the horse directly in front of them.
#27823 Oct 10, 2013
The people of Springboro have absolutely zero control over what goes on in any district besides our own. The Springboro School District is positively the only district over which we can maintain any semblance of control over our destiny.
How other districts wish to handle these issues is totally and entirely up to them, the state of Ohio minimum standards, and the federal government's minimum standards.
The Chinese utilize a system of competitive education to garner the results they have achieved. More or less a free market competition that rewards those who perform best. A race to the top with winners and losers, but of one thing you may rest assured, they do not lower the bar to make everyone a "winner".
The people of Springboro know the value of education and where it can and cannot take a child.
The level of expectations in this district is much higher than the state mandated "PROFICIENT".
I dare say, most parents around Springboro are not doing cartwheels in the front yard when little Jimmy or Susie brings home a test with only 34%- 56% correct.
We can and must do better for the sake of our children.
As they say, the longest journey begins with the first step. In Springboro it is acknowledging that we have been led in the pursuit of a false standard of excellence.
We can ill afford to year after year cede precious time and knowledge to others around the world.
For the sake of our children's future we must reject the course of study that demands so little of all of us and strive for true achievement across the board for all children in Springboro.
#27824 Oct 10, 2013
Ya think ?!?
#27825 Oct 10, 2013
If you don't understand the concept of ethical missuse of an American flag for purpose of personal political gain, you should seriously consider enrolling in citizenship class.
Thank you for the spelling correction. I see it took you an extra three minutes to fish out that one. Today's modern spell-check programs are quite nifty and handy, aren't they?
#27826 Oct 10, 2013
The flag is not being used on their candidates' signs...so therefore, the flag is being "mis-used".
The federal law that governs the use and display of the US flag is advisory in nature and there is no penalty for displaying or using the flag contrary to the law's guidance. The US Supreme Court has ruled on this many times.
#27827 Oct 10, 2013
Actually, the Chinese are able to achieve their high standards on testing and such because they do not educate every child as we do in this country. They have a "free market" system alright - they only educate those that can score high on achievement tests. And you are correct - they don't lower the bar for anyone. They don't actually set a bar for certain segments of their population. And typically, as I have researched, the Chinese only report test scores from certain areas of the country where students tend to score higher on standardized tests, than other parts of the country where they don't....or don't really educate at all.
And while we should want and expect ALL students in our district to be high achievers, some simply are not. And not that we shouldn't strive to create an environment that allows ALL students to be high achievers, we absolutely should with every waking moment we have.....but some kids are proficient and that is the best they will be. And you know what - that is ok if that is who the individual child is. Sorry, but that is the reality. Not everyone is meant to go to college. Not everyone is meant to be CEO of a company. Just like some kids can run fast and some can't. Some kids can throw a baseball and some can't.
Ft Mitchell, KY
#27828 Oct 10, 2013
I am simply expressing my viewpoint. I totally respect Bitner and Vaughn for putting themselves in this race to represent a different philosophy. You are probably right about me though, I couldn't stand the heat so I didn't throw my hat in the ring, which makes me respect these two guys even more. As far as me watching other debates, I can assure you I am very involved in the politics of our nation and I have seen many debates which is exactly why I support Bitner and Vaughn's choice to not attend the SEA pep rally. You see, as I watch politics on a global scale, I get upset every time the candidate I am pulling for agrees to "debate" the opposition strictly on the terms of the opposition. I personally just don't see the reason for it. Bitner and Vaughn seem to have a backbone and I think that shows that they will fight for all the kids in the district.
#27829 Oct 10, 2013
So when I see all the tea party websites with all the flags on them, what does that mean? What about a picture of a flag on a political website in the same shot as the candidate?
As for the spell-check, not handy enough for you to use.
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