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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Remember in November

Akron, OH

#27790 Oct 9, 2013
Just Remember in November that ONLY union school board members would ever consider "adopting a standard that is known to be detrimental to children..." and Mr. Malone has already told voters that he is running for election to gain control of the board's successful children's first budget and re-instate union first business as usual. Now what could be more detrimental to our school children and community than a union controlled school board?
Springboro Voters can't just invest our future in the Malone/Stuckey/Anderson status quo.
Just Say No!

We have to invest in a Vision of Reform for our students' 21st Century Education.

Stay the Course in 2013....
VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN!
November 5, 2013.
No show

Toledo, OH

#27791 Oct 9, 2013
Ask Ron Malone wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
You could have had your candidates ask the questions but they won't show. Tough luck!
Non-Partisan

Ft Mitchell, KY

#27792 Oct 9, 2013
After seeing signs from both candidates today, I checked out both websites and was surprised at the stark contrast between the two tickets. You really can't find out much about MSA from their website. On the other hand, when I looked at the Bitner/Vaughn website, I was pleased to see so much more information about their views. One site feels like a big downer and the other site is bright and exciting. One group of candidates appear to have no new ideas, boring and exhausted. The other group is vibrant, excited and full of motivation to do the best for the students and the community. I have to agree with the majority on here. I will be casting a vote for BITNER and VAUGHN on November 5. :-)
We the Sheeple

Cleveland, OH

#27793 Oct 9, 2013
Anyone else been noticing the sets of small American flags perched at the top of each Dale Lamb yard sign?
Lamb's campaign needs to be hearing from concerned citizens in this community about their campaign's FLAGRANT MISUSE of our nation's flag for the purpose of personal political gain.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27794 Oct 9, 2013
Voter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =eln9uVOBWqUXX&sns=em
What other communites think of The Springboro BOE.
Maybe not so much as you believe. The truth will triumph and reveal the depths at which a union program will go to espouse half truths, innuendo, smear, and lies.

They may have overplayed their card this time and awaken a sleeping bear.

Here is the report on Channel 2 and the response from Mr. Petrey.

http://www.wdtn.com/news/local/warren/springb...

Look in your mailbox in the next day or so for actual documentable facts on the state of our district.

Compare the past to the future and what has been accomplished in the past 1.5 years.

I think you will like the direction in which we are headed.
Lerxst

Miamisburg, OH

#27795 Oct 9, 2013
Ask Ron Malone wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
This question MUST be asked to the big three. When is the debate?
mailboxes

Springboro, OH

#27796 Oct 9, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe not so much as you believe. The truth will triumph and reveal the depths at which a union program will go to espouse half truths, innuendo, smear, and lies.
They may have overplayed their card this time and awaken a sleeping bear.
Here is the report on Channel 2 and the response from Mr. Petrey.
http://www.wdtn.com/news/local/warren/springb...
Look in your mailbox in the next day or so for actual documentable facts on the state of our district.
Compare the past to the future and what has been accomplished in the past 1.5 years.
I think you will like the direction in which we are headed.
How do you know we will be seeing something in our mailboxes in the next day or so? Did you help write whatever it is we will be receiving from the schools?
Heart Burn

Atlanta, GA

#27797 Oct 9, 2013
mailboxes wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know we will be seeing something in our mailboxes in the next day or so? Did you help write whatever it is we will be receiving from the schools?
You are more concerned about who wrote something coming from the school other than what it will say. It's much easier that way to be dismissive of the facts contained within isn't it? It's a lot easier to make up your mind ahead of time isn't it?

You are so transparent.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27798 Oct 9, 2013
mailboxes wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know we will be seeing something in our mailboxes in the next day or so? Did you help write whatever it is we will be receiving from the schools?
The truth has a funny way of leaking out to the general public.

Thomas Jefferson said in 1782.(Notes on the State of Virginia)

"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree."

Truth and knowledge have a tendency to keep government square, it was true 231 years ago and it is true today.

Vote for the "sunshine", not the darkness.

Vote for those who believe in transparency, not the ones who like to file bad news away in the dark recesses of their high school file cabinets.
certainly worth repeating

Cleveland, OH

#27799 Oct 9, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Vote for the "sunshine", not the darkness.
Vote for those who believe in transparency, not the ones who like to file bad news away in the dark recesses of their high school file cabinets.
Vote for the "sunshine", not the darkness.
Vote for those who believe in transparency, not the ones who like to file bad news away in the dark recesses of their high school file cabinets.
booster rocket

Cleveland, OH

#27800 Oct 9, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
The truth has a funny way of leaking out to the general public.
Thomas Jefferson said in 1782.(Notes on the State of Virginia)
"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves, therefore, are its only safe depositories. And to render them safe, their minds must be improved to a certain degree."
Truth and knowledge have a tendency to keep government square, it was true 231 years ago and it is true today.
Vote for the "sunshine", not the darkness.
Vote for those who believe in transparency, not the ones who like to file bad news away in the dark recesses of their high school file cabinets.
It's interesting that you bring up "file cabinets" and "dark recesses". We all know there's a former Springboro booster right now who's in a "dark recess" of his life. Court transcripts describe habits of the former Boro boosters organization as having next to no cross-accountability. Almost no one around here lives in a world of illusion the total amount of missing Booster money was anywhere close to 100% accounted for in the amount Harves was court-ordered to reimburse.

Near the bottom of lots of black yard signs around town, the following words can be easily viewed...
"PAID FOR BY FRIENDS OF MALONE STUCKEY AND ANDERSON"

Oh, the irony...

Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27801 Oct 9, 2013
Lerxst wrote:
<quoted text>
This question MUST be asked to the big three. When is the debate?
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15
Springboro School Board
Candidate Forum
7:00 p.m.

What? Candidates running for seats on the Springboro School Board will take part in a community forum....
Springboro John Agenbroad will serve as a moderator.

Where? Springboro High School Auditorium, 1675 S. Main St.

INFO: The Springboro Education Association, which organized the event, represents the district's 333 educators.
Keep It Simple

Akron, OH

#27802 Oct 9, 2013
We now have less than one month to get out our message that November 5, 2013, is a turning point in the future success of our students' quality classroom education.
We can't just invest in the status quo of re-instating Ron Malone's business as usual union first inept leadership.
We MUST invest our votes and our money in a
VISION OF REFORM!
The Choice Is Simple!

Only our two non-union school board candidates,
DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
are ON BOARD with our Current board's
VISION OF REFORM!

Spread the Good News!
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the school board candidates who MUST be our next two elected board representatives! Our future depends upon electing PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!

VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
on November 5, 2013!
STUDENTS FIRST! RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!

Our future is going to be brighter than status quo tunnel vision of past failed practices of union controlled Board of Education elected officials;

AND WE ARE ON OUR WAY... NO TURNING BACK!
Remember in November

Akron, OH

#27803 Oct 9, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
We can do little to influence other school districts except by setting the example. We have only our own district where we can successfully impact its performance and the actual amount of true learning that takes place in our classrooms.
Wasting your time chasing others to the bottom is an exercise in futility.
The latest report from the High Schools That Works covered the school year 2011 - 2012, the current school board took over in January of 2011 and immediately began pushing to add more Advanced Placement courses. Mr. Malone responded by requesting one A/P Statistics class, a current events class, and a beginning guitar class. The board to its credit approved the A/P class, denied the guitar class, and to its discredit approved the current events class.
The reports from 2007 and 2010 note the same problems in each year as we see in 2012. Mr. Malone made the conscious decision to ignore to the detriment of the children the recommendations his professional peers were making. Paramount of them was increasing the strength of the curriculum and promoting more A/P classes.
Mr. Malone enjoyed the authority and influence conferred upon in him in both the academic community and the community at large as principal of the high school. How he chose to weld that authority and influence is a demonstration of where his priorities truly lie. Sadly it seems it is not with our children's long term futures.
As a private citizen I would still enjoy the opportunity to debate the point of academic achievement of our school district and Mr. Malone's record on such matters.
Perhaps the public would like to know more about why Mr Malone knowingly promotes PROFICIENT as a standard that equates to FAILURE.
Very Much Worth Repeating!
Thank You.
Listentothepeopl e

Painesville, OH

#27804 Oct 9, 2013
We the Sheeple wrote:
Anyone else been noticing the sets of small American flags perched at the top of each Dale Lamb yard sign?
Lamb's campaign needs to be hearing from concerned citizens in this community about their campaign's FLAGRANT MISUSE of our nation's flag for the purpose of personal political gain.
.

Just when you think LAMB and WADE could not stoop any lower, they pardon the chief for a criminal act and place American flags on their campaign signs. How shameful are these people

Lamb is anything but an American. He is Anthony Weiner all over again. No one likes him and he needs to leave the community in shame. How dare you deface the American flag. How dare you even call yourself an American.
You call that a debate

Springboro, OH

#27805 Oct 9, 2013
No show wrote:
<quoted text>You could have had your candidates ask the questions but they won't show. Tough luck!
Actually, I believe the moderator is the only person who is able to ask questions during a debate. I believe we all know what kind of questions the good old boys will be asked. Union supported people sitting down to have a "debate" with other union supported people, sounds like everything will be on the up and up, LOL!!!
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27806 Oct 9, 2013
I note with a degree of irony the number of cars floating around Springboro with stickers promoting the fact that they support teachers and staff.

That is akin to saying I breath air, not hardly an exclusive group, who doesn't support their kid's teachers.

The bumper sticker I like better is the one that Mr. Vaughn and Mr. Bitner have been rolling with from the inception of their campaign

I Support Springboro Students!

Finally a couple of parents who are looking out for the children rather than the interests of the union.

Look for Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey to copy this one soon as they decide that just representing the union might leave them vulnerable.

Then again it is hard to teach veteran union dogs new tricks.
Remember in November

Akron, OH

#27807 Oct 10, 2013
Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners can only teach our veteran union school board candidates, Ron Malone,David Stuckey,Charles
Anderson, at the polls on November 5, 2012, that a deal is a deal, and Mr. Malone, it really is time for you to go...
Just Say NO to investing our hard earned school tax dollars, and our VOTES in the old outdated leadership philosophy of Malone's status quo.......

Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners must invest our votes and our school tax dollars in a Vision of Reform!
Only non-union school board candidates,
DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
are already on board with
our current board's winning agenda of
STUDENTS FIRST
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!

What's NOT to love about that "SANE AND FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE" leadership philosophy?
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27808 Oct 10, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
I note with a degree of irony the number of cars floating around Springboro with stickers promoting the fact that they support teachers and staff.
That is akin to saying I breath air, not hardly an exclusive group, who doesn't support their kid's teachers.
The bumper sticker I like better is the one that Mr. Vaughn and Mr. Bitner have been rolling with from the inception of their campaign
I Support Springboro Students!
Finally a couple of parents who are looking out for the children rather than the interests of the union.
Look for Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey to copy this one soon as they decide that just representing the union might leave them vulnerable.
Then again it is hard to teach veteran union dogs new tricks.
So saying you support the teachers is "akin to saying I breath air" but saying you support the student's isn't??? Why else would one support the teachers?

And by the looks of the signs Bitner and Vaughn are Parent's representing Parents. Shouldn't that be Parent's representing Children if they are truley children first? Confusing message.

And as for Lamb using the flag. There are no less than 3 pictures of the american flag on the home page of the Bitner Vaughn site (one of them at half mast) and one with the POW flag. No outrage about that? Of course not. Only people who are not liked around here are blasted for raising an American flag. So biast.

Finally I notice their signs state "Parent's of students". So I'm guessing they would be in opposition to current board members who are not "Parent's of students?"
Union Bashing

Dayton, OH

#27809 Oct 10, 2013
What's with the union bashing? It's getting real old.

Unions are and always will be a part of this country. They touch each of our lives from the streets we drive on (and the cars we drive on them), to the concert's we go to, etc..

I would agree that some unions are bad, but there are alot of good ones as well. They are just "an organized association of workers formed to protect and further their rights and interests"

I believe the NRA could be classified as "an organized association of <gun owners> formed to protect and further their rights and interests"

Yet I see noone bashing the NRA.

I guess eveyone here is also against these other OHIO unions and the 1,269,657 people that are in them (SEA isn't included, I guess they didn't make the list):

AFGE - American Federation Of Government Employees

AFM - American Federation of Musicians

AFSCME - American Federation of State, County, and Municipal Employees

AFT - American Federation of Teachers

AFTRA - American Federation of Television and Radio Artists

ANA - American Nurses Association

APWU - American Postal Workers Union

ATU - Amalgamated Transit Union

BAC - International Union of Bricklayers and Allied Craft Workers

BBF - International Brotherhood of Boilermakers

BCTD - Building & Construction Trades Department

BCTGMI - The Bakery, Confectionery, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers International Union

BLE - Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers

BMWE - Brotherhood of Maintenance of Way Employees

BRS - Brotherhood of Railroad Signalmen

BSOIW - International Association of Bridge, Structural, Ornamental, and Reinforcing Iron

CJA - The United Brotherhood of Carpenters and Joiners of America

CWA - Communication Workers of America

GCIU - Graphics Communication International Union

GMP - Glass, Molders, Pottery, Plastics, & Allied Workers International Union

IAFF - International Association of Fire Fighters

IAM - International Associations of Machinists and Aerospace Workers

IATSE - International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees

IBEW - International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers

IBT - International Brotherhood of Teamsters

ILA - International Longshoremen's Association

IUEC - International Union of Elevator Constructors

IUOE - International Union of Operating Engineers

IUPAT - The International Union of Painters and Allied Trades Home

LIUNA - Laborers International Union of North America

MTTD - MARITIME TRADES DEPT AFL-CIO

NALC - National Association of Letter Carriers

NAPFE - National Alliance of Postal and Federal Employees

NATCA - National Air Traffic Controllers Association

NEA - National Education Association

NFFE - National Federation of Federal Employees

NIW - Industrial Workers of the World

NPMHU - National Postal Mail Handlers Union

NTEU - National Treasury Employees Union

OPCMIA - Operative Plasterers' and Cement Masons' International Association

OPEIU - Office and Professional Employees International Union

PPF/UA - Plumbers and Pipe Fitters Union

RLCA - National Rural Letters Carrier's Association

RWAW - United Union of Roofers, Waterproofers and Allied Workers

SEIU - Service Employees International Union

SMW - Sheet Metal Workers International Association

SPFPA - International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America

TCU - Transportation Communications International Union

TWU - Transit Workers Union

UAW - United Auto Workers

UE - United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers of America

UFCW - United Food and Commercial Workers

UGSOA - United Government Security Officers of America

UMW - Union Miners Workers Of America

USW - United Steel Workers

UTU - United Transportation Union

(from http://www.unions.org )

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