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What other communites think of The Springboro BOE.

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perception is in the eye of beholder what you and i deem important may not be someone elses opinon look at the football syadium vs your numbers and mr M's percieved public view
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Mighty hard to spin PROFICIENT as anything but FAILURE.
Who among us would see anyone as scoring 34% on a test as anything but FAILING?
Spin as you wish, the hard reality is that literally thousands of our children are not getting the quality education the tax payers have funded.
At the high school level under Mr. Malone, the High Schools That Work report from January 2013 notes "only 43% of the Springboro High School students have completed the High Schools That Work recommended curriculum (Ohio Core), a 34% DECREASE from 2008."
Not my words, but the words of the professional peers of Mr. Malone who are paid to evaluate high schools for the Warren County Educational Service Center.
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We now have less than one month to get out our message that November 5, 2013, is a turning point in the future success of our students' quality classroom education.
We can't just invest in the status quo of re-instating Ron Malone's business as usual union first inept leadership.
We MUST invest our votes and our money in a
VISION OF REFORM!
The Choice Is Simple!

Only our two non-union school board candidates,
DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
are ON BOARD with our Current board's
VISION OF REFORM!

Spread the Good News!
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the school board candidates who MUST be our next two elected board representatives! Our future depends upon electing PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!

VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
on November 5, 2013!
STUDENTS FIRST! RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!

Our future is going to be brighter than status quo tunnel vision of past failed practices of union controlled Board of Education elected officials;

AND WE ARE ON OUR WAY... NO TURNING BACK!
No debate means No choice

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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Mighty hard to spin PROFICIENT as anything but FAILURE.
Who among us would see anyone as scoring 34% on a test as anything but FAILING?
Spin as you wish, the hard reality is that literally thousands of our children are not getting the quality education the tax payers have funded.
At the high school level under Mr. Malone, the High Schools That Work report from January 2013 notes "only 43% of the Springboro High School students have completed the High Schools That Work recommended curriculum (Ohio Core), a 34% DECREASE from 2008."
Not my words, but the words of the professional peers of Mr. Malone who are paid to evaluate high schools for the Warren County Educational Service Center.
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I've noticed that when you talk about these numbers you fail to mention what other schools in the area look like. Are we the only ones who have this "problem"?

Also it occurs to me that from 2008 - 2013 would cover the time the current school board was in "power". Don't they have anything to do with this "failure" or are their hands clean? After all these do have to do with Ohio "core" and there are those on the board that reject the "core".

If the curriculum is the principal's responsibility then you should have been opposed to the school board trying to influence the curriculum. If the BOE has oversight of the curriculum then they should be held responsible for your said "failure". It's either one way or the other.

As far as you debating Malone, you had your chance but didn't run for BOE. It's always easier being a fan or a cheerleader than a player. Those that need to be at the debate are missing MULTIPLE opportunities to give the public an idea of the choices they have.
No debate means No choice

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Ask Ron Malone wrote:
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Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
Wow, if there were only other candidates that would show up at the debate, maybe they could ask him.

So much for that idea....
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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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The signs were not illegally placed.
The question is a rather salient one:
How will a UNION CONTROLLED school board spend your TAX DOLLARS?
I suppose some folks would rather not have others exposed to such thinking, but what exactly was inaccurate about that sign?
Presiding over 12 years of looting of over $1,000,000 of the booster money while head of the high school and then fighting against necessary reforms to combat this sort of behavior in the future certainly is not many people's way of gaining trust or honor. Maybe in Mr. Malone's tiny part of the world that makes sense, but I doubt it works elsewhere.
Knowingly dumbing down the curriculum of the high school in the face of NO RESEARCH OR DATA that supports that course of action as beneficial to the students is not demonstrating either leadership nor ethics. When will Mr. Malone explain to us how not providing a more challenging educational atmosphere was good for our children and their future?
Just Say No Way to the Old Way of Ron Malone's status quo union first business as usual.

VOTE FOR OUR TWO REFORM MINDED PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS!
DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN MUST BE ELECTED AS OUR NEXT TWO
BOARD REPRESENTIVES!
STUDENTS FIRST!
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!
It's a win-win ticket for all students, parents, school employees, and community wide taxpayers.

NO TURNING BACK ON NOVEMBER 5, 2013!
VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN!
OUR FUTURE DEPENDS ON TODAY'S INVESTMENT IN A VISION OF REFORM!
truth to power

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Voter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =eln9uVOBWqU&sns=em
What other communites think of The Springboro BOE.
Correction:
What an extremely bitter and spiteful group of Delaware county Ohio extremist liberals think of The Springboro BOE.
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No debate means No choice wrote:
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I've noticed that when you talk about these numbers you fail to mention what other schools in the area look like. Are we the only ones who have this "problem"?
Also it occurs to me that from 2008 - 2013 would cover the time the current school board was in "power". Don't they have anything to do with this "failure" or are their hands clean? After all these do have to do with Ohio "core" and there are those on the board that reject the "core".
If the curriculum is the principal's responsibility then you should have been opposed to the school board trying to influence the curriculum. If the BOE has oversight of the curriculum then they should be held responsible for your said "failure". It's either one way or the other.
As far as you debating Malone, you had your chance but didn't run for BOE. It's always easier being a fan or a cheerleader than a player. Those that need to be at the debate are missing MULTIPLE opportunities to give the public an idea of the choices they have.
Excuse Me, but what difference does it make on November 5, 2013,
what other school are doing or what others are saying about our schools and community or even who or whom is responsible?
Why waste our time? Our busy schedules would be better served by taking that time to walk through our neighborhoods spreading the good news that DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN are the non-union candidates that should be our next two elected board representatives.

The time has now come to focus on our responsibility to stay the course of our Children's First Budgeting success, and go to the polls and Vote for DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN, the only two non-union school board candidates, who are already on board with our current board's Vision of Reform.

VOTE NOVEMBER 5, 2013 to Stay the Course!
VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN
STUDENTS FIRST!
RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!
A WIN-WIN TICKET FOR ALL STUDENTS, PARENTS, SCHOOL EMPLOYEES
and TAXPAYING VOTERS!
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No debate means No choice wrote:
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Wow, if there were only other candidates that would show up at the debate, maybe they could ask him.
So much for that idea....
To debate Malone is a zero sum game. Think of Malone as an elephant. This particular elephant has long been a dominant figurehead of the savannah. During a debate, this elephant may choose to tell the truth, he may choose to lie or deceive, or he could be absolutely clueless. At the end of the day, this elephant can do almost nothing to harm his reputation in the public's eye because this elephant remains the insanely popular king of the Springboro high school savannah.

On the other hand, during the next 4 weeks Malone has something to lose lots of sleep over because elephants of the African savannah are absolutely terrified of ANT HILLS.

Attn: ANTS
Let's get to it!
Doug Wiedeman

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No debate means No choice wrote:
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I've noticed that when you talk about these numbers you fail to mention what other schools in the area look like. Are we the only ones who have this "problem"?
Also it occurs to me that from 2008 - 2013 would cover the time the current school board was in "power". Don't they have anything to do with this "failure" or are their hands clean? After all these do have to do with Ohio "core" and there are those on the board that reject the "core".
If the curriculum is the principal's responsibility then you should have been opposed to the school board trying to influence the curriculum. If the BOE has oversight of the curriculum then they should be held responsible for your said "failure". It's either one way or the other.
As far as you debating Malone, you had your chance but didn't run for BOE. It's always easier being a fan or a cheerleader than a player. Those that need to be at the debate are missing MULTIPLE opportunities to give the public an idea of the choices they have.
We can do little to influence other school districts except by setting the example. We have only our own district where we can successfully impact its performance and the actual amount of true learning that takes place in our classrooms.

Wasting your time chasing others to the bottom is an exercise in futility.

The latest report from the High Schools That Works covered the school year 2011 - 2012, the current school board took over in January of 2011 and immediately began pushing to add more Advanced Placement courses. Mr. Malone responded by requesting one A/P Statistics class, a current events class, and a beginning guitar class. The board to its credit approved the A/P class, denied the guitar class, and to its discredit approved the current events class.

The reports from 2007 and 2010 note the same problems in each year as we see in 2012. Mr. Malone made the conscious decision to ignore to the detriment of the children the recommendations his professional peers were making. Paramount of them was increasing the strength of the curriculum and promoting more A/P classes.

Mr. Malone enjoyed the authority and influence conferred upon in him in both the academic community and the community at large as principal of the high school. How he chose to weld that authority and influence is a demonstration of where his priorities truly lie. Sadly it seems it is not with our children's long term futures.

As a private citizen I would still enjoy the opportunity to debate the point of academic achievement of our school district and Mr. Malone's record on such matters.

Perhaps the public would like to know more about why Mr Malone knowingly promotes PROFICIENT as a standard that equates to FAILURE.
Doug Wiedeman

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To debate Malone is a zero sum game. Think of Malone as an elephant. This particular elephant has long been a dominant figurehead of the savannah. During a debate, this elephant may choose to tell the truth, he may choose to lie or deceive, or he could be absolutely clueless. At the end of the day, this elephant can do almost nothing to harm his reputation in the public's eye because this elephant remains the insanely popular king of the Springboro high school savannah.
On the other hand, during the next 4 weeks Malone has something to lose lots of sleep over because elephants of the African savannah are absolutely terrified of ANT HILLS.
Attn: ANTS
Let's get to it!
It is hard to lie when the person you are attempting to BS has a grounding in the subject. It is also hard to lie when the facts are printed by the state on its web pages for everyone to view.

It is easy to lie to willing participants in the lie, but not everyone in this community fits that bill.
November and Beyond

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ask and U shall receive wrote:
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http://supportborostudents.com/
Elect
David Bitner
and
Kolton Vaughn
Springboro BOE
Vote Tues. November 5th
http://supportborostudents.com/
The more we know....

Spread the Good News!

Now we all know that David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the
two school board candidates, who are fully vested in a Vison of Reform for future education, are Parents Representing Parents, putting our STUDENTS FIRST, and Staying the Course of RESPONSIBLE BUDGETING!

Why would anyone who cares about the future financial stability of our school children's education vote to re-instate control of status quo leadership that had lost its balance?

If there was any balance at all in the past, it was an eye for
an eye. As this community said "no" to five new money levies, district leaders failed to find levy alternatives. The status quo threatened the community with cuts. Thankfully, many of those leaders have left, but some now would like toreturn to sit on our school board.
NO DEBATE ABOUT IT....

This year's record is easy to defend because it consistently demonstrates investing in Children First. From replacing the districts aging computers, buses, to implementing new curriculum and raising expectations with new standards, testing --
we have progressed! Why would we give control back to those who slowed this district's progress? Those who inflated budget forecasts? Those who ignored the capital needs of the District?
Most importantly, why would we elect the same people who neglected to put Children First in our schools?

Children First Budgeting Works in the best financial/academic interest of our Students First, our quality classroom teachers
and all school employees, providing a quality education while keeping our schools both safe and affordable. Why would anyone vote against Children First?
Remember in November

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Just Remember in November that ONLY union school board members would ever consider "adopting a standard that is known to be detrimental to children..." and Mr. Malone has already told voters that he is running for election to gain control of the board's successful children's first budget and re-instate union first business as usual. Now what could be more detrimental to our school children and community than a union controlled school board?
Springboro Voters can't just invest our future in the Malone/Stuckey/Anderson status quo.
Just Say No!

We have to invest in a Vision of Reform for our students' 21st Century Education.

Stay the Course in 2013....
VOTE FOR DAVID BITNER AND KOLTON VAUGHN!
November 5, 2013.
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Ask Ron Malone wrote:
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Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
You could have had your candidates ask the questions but they won't show. Tough luck!
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After seeing signs from both candidates today, I checked out both websites and was surprised at the stark contrast between the two tickets. You really can't find out much about MSA from their website. On the other hand, when I looked at the Bitner/Vaughn website, I was pleased to see so much more information about their views. One site feels like a big downer and the other site is bright and exciting. One group of candidates appear to have no new ideas, boring and exhausted. The other group is vibrant, excited and full of motivation to do the best for the students and the community. I have to agree with the majority on here. I will be casting a vote for BITNER and VAUGHN on November 5. :-)
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Anyone else been noticing the sets of small American flags perched at the top of each Dale Lamb yard sign?
Lamb's campaign needs to be hearing from concerned citizens in this community about their campaign's FLAGRANT MISUSE of our nation's flag for the purpose of personal political gain.
Doug Wiedeman

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Voter wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =eln9uVOBWqU&sns=em
What other communites think of The Springboro BOE.
Maybe not so much as you believe. The truth will triumph and reveal the depths at which a union program will go to espouse half truths, innuendo, smear, and lies.

They may have overplayed their card this time and awaken a sleeping bear.

Here is the report on Channel 2 and the response from Mr. Petrey.

http://www.wdtn.com/news/local/warren/springb...

Look in your mailbox in the next day or so for actual documentable facts on the state of our district.

Compare the past to the future and what has been accomplished in the past 1.5 years.

I think you will like the direction in which we are headed.
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Ask Ron Malone wrote:
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Do you think if we all show up at the union school board candidates debate that the Mayor can get Ron Malone to give Springboro parents an answer in regards to Mr. Wiedeman's data?
This question MUST be asked to the big three. When is the debate?
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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Maybe not so much as you believe. The truth will triumph and reveal the depths at which a union program will go to espouse half truths, innuendo, smear, and lies.
They may have overplayed their card this time and awaken a sleeping bear.
Here is the report on Channel 2 and the response from Mr. Petrey.
http://www.wdtn.com/news/local/warren/springb...
Look in your mailbox in the next day or so for actual documentable facts on the state of our district.
Compare the past to the future and what has been accomplished in the past 1.5 years.
I think you will like the direction in which we are headed.
How do you know we will be seeing something in our mailboxes in the next day or so? Did you help write whatever it is we will be receiving from the schools?
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How do you know we will be seeing something in our mailboxes in the next day or so? Did you help write whatever it is we will be receiving from the schools?
You are more concerned about who wrote something coming from the school other than what it will say. It's much easier that way to be dismissive of the facts contained within isn't it? It's a lot easier to make up your mind ahead of time isn't it?

You are so transparent.

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