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Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Bad Choice

Akron, OH

#27728 Oct 7, 2013
choice wrote:
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Is it A)?
Are you asking if we should allow the union school board candidates to gain control of spreading the wealth only in the direction of the union's financial circle of greed, now seeking to control the lives of all our citizens from the "womb to the tomb?"

Spread the good news to just say NO to the bad choice of union school board candidates Ron Malone, David Stuckey, Charles Anderson at the polls on November 5, 2013.
November and Beyond

Akron, OH

#27729 Oct 7, 2013
........time to get out in your neighborhood and spread the good news that David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the only two non-union school board candidates....
and that David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are PARENTS REPRESENTING PARENTS and should be our next TWO elected board representatives.

VOTE NOVEMBER 5 for the only TWO Students First/Responsible Budgeting school board candidates!
David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn are the only TWO Parents Representing Parents school board candidates that are a good "fit" with our children's first budgeting 21st century education!
wonderlandvisito r

Mason, OH

#27730 Oct 7, 2013
tellthetruth wrote:
Any vote for ED WADE or DALE LAMB is a vote for further corruption, unethical behavior and stealing from the public. Tell WADE and LAMB that they NO LONGER have access to taxpayers funds as their own PIGGY BANK!
dale isnt going for re-election and ed isnt on this ballot take alice back home moran
partisan

Dayton, OH

#27731 Oct 7, 2013
wonderlandvisitor wrote:
<quoted text>dale isnt going for re-election and ed isnt on this ballot take alice back home moran
Moran ? who's the real moron here ? And Lambs name is on the ballot....not reelected, but IS running AGAIN for township trustee. Your post is full of errors, MORON.
No show

Toledo, OH

#27732 Oct 7, 2013
Why were Bitner and Vaughn absent from the League of Women Voters forum on the mvcc? Will we ever hear these candidates speak in public, or do we have to go to one of their meet and greets? Are there any debates planned before the election?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#27733 Oct 7, 2013
choice wrote:
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Or maybe its because the BOE is elected to be policy makers and not be micro-managers.
If you have capable employees who do the job they are hired to do, that works great. When you have employees such as a high school principal who files unflattering portraits of his high school deep in the back side of a file cabinet, you need someone to manage that individual a little more closely.

When you have people who allow others to steal from the high schools programs for years on end, that person needs a manager.

When you have a leader of a high school that makes the conscious decision to dumb down the curriculum and add fun electives at the expense of core courses, that man needs some management guidance.

The morale of the story would be that good employees seldom need to interact with their management more than necessary, while those employees that are struggling to do the right thing need more supervision, not less.

I wonder where Mr. Malone fell on that scale?
tellthetruth

Cleveland, OH

#27734 Oct 7, 2013
Any vote for ED WADE or DALE LAMB is a vote for further corruption, unethical behavior and stealing from the public.

Tell WADE and LAMB that they NO LONGER have access to taxpayers funds as their own PIGGY BANK!

YES, WADE & LAMB ARE ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT and we have a chance to inform them that their "service" is no longer needed, wanted, or even cared for!
Another View

Akron, OH

#27735 Oct 7, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
From the Dayton Daily News voters guide, Mr. Malone's answer.
http://vote.daytondailynews.com/candidate-det...
"What is your key issue?
My key issue, and my major reason for running, is that the Board of Education has strayed from its role as a policy maker and had regularly become involved in the day to day operations of the district. It must stop micro- managing the affairs of the district and return to its original role."
I strongly disagree with everything Mr. Malone claims is key issue and major reason for running. Mr. Malone can "run" but he cannot hide from the truth - The bottom line is that Mr. Malone seeks to re-instate the power and control of our successful children's first budgeting process, if elected as board representative, and then return the power and money to Mr. Maney's SEA control, just as it was before Dr. Kohls came on board in January 2010.

Mr. Malone's unionized tunnel vision cannot see that the Taxpayers of this school district are the original ones who OWN the affairs of our elected officials on the Board of Education. The SEA president OWNS the affairs of the Springboro Education Association.
The responsibility of the elected board members is to listen to BOTH the needs of the school community of employees AND the needs of their constituents who voted them into elected office; and that both school and community members are governed by our Board of Education By-laws and Policies in accordance with state laws. Dr. Kohls was the first ever board member to say in public meeting that the Taxpayers voices should be listened to (and respected) in the business of the Board of Education meetings. Previous board members agreed with our SEA president that taxpayers had no business interferring with school business -- just shut up and say yes to new levies.

The way I see it, since January 2012, Mr. Malone has joined with the SEA President, Mr. Maney, in efforts to micro-manage our community-wide elected BOE officials "business" to FIT the wants of the Springboro Education Association, while leaving our students first educational needs left behind. Why would anyone in our community want to turn back to those failed practices of previous union controlled school board members? Why would anyone vote for retired school employees as board representatives "of the community, for the community, and by the community" when everything that Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey know about managing finances they learned from the union mandate.... we need a new levy?

Why would anyone NOT vote for the only two non-union school board candidates who are already on board with our current board's Students first/Responsible budgeting PROVEN successful leadership?
Why not spread the good news that David Bitner and Kolton Vaughn should be our next TWO elected school board representatives?
Get on the phone, walk your neighborhoods, and don't be intimidated by the MaloneStuckeyAnderson signs of darkness.
Those in our neighborhoods who show signs of darkness are the ones most needing to let the light shine through!

VOTE BITNER/VAUGHN!
NOVEMBER 5, 2013
Lerxst

Cleveland, OH

#27736 Oct 7, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
From the Dayton Daily News voters guide, Mr. Malone's answer.
http://vote.daytondailynews.com/candidate-det...
"What is your key issue?
This is excellent. Note that there are only two candidates that acknowledge the farce that is 'Proficient.' I would love to hear the other three comment on this.
No debate means No choice

Dayton, OH

#27737 Oct 7, 2013
Lerxst wrote:
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This is excellent. Note that there are only two candidates that acknowledge the farce that is 'Proficient.' I would love to hear the other three comment on this.
Seems like the debate(s) would be the time to do it. But as long as certain candidates are unwilling to even be involved with anything SEA, that won't happen. Kind of makes you think that if they can't even be involved in a debate with the other candidates and a moderatior chosen by the people (he is the mayor) then they have no business being on the school board where dealing with the teachers union is mandatory.

Also we made the YouTube circuit...



I'd just like to have a board that could keep us out of the media!
Synchronistic Wanderings

Dayton, OH

#27738 Oct 7, 2013
How can people make a decision by only hearing some of the candidates debate? What candidates don't want to have a voice? I guess it's like mom said, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all."

I will say I've noticed alot of the Malone/Stucky/Anderson signs around town. Reminds me of Rigano/Petroni signs a couple of years ago.

November 5th will be interesting.
In The News

Akron, OH

#27739 Oct 7, 2013
I just want to say thanks to our Board of Education members, for their diligence in being accountable to their community wide constituents b keeping us well informed through the media, through the school website, BOE updates, and the Transparency project.
Special thanks to our BOE President, Dr. Kelly Kohls, for the report to the news media printed in the October 3, 2013, The Springboro Star Press: Board President comments on Auditor of State Report.
In case you did not hear Dr. Kohls read this
statement at the last board meeting, you can educate yourself by reading the newspaper, thanks to our BOE president who diligently seeks to communicate with the public, using all means of the news media.
I am encouraged that our board keeps us informed through the media and appreciate Dr. Kohls closing statements in the Star Press:

"We look forward to the full final report being released to the public soon, and we hope it fosters even more cnstructive discussion. We want to reassure the Springboro community that weh ave taken action, in particular to bring these summer camps into the district athletic department, which will resolve many of these issues. Thank you."

Stay Tuned for more good news from our Board...
the more you know, the more appreciation will grow for the the good leadership of our current board, doing what's right for our school children and community.
truth to power

Cleveland, OH

#27740 Oct 7, 2013
No debate means No choice wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems like the debate(s) would be the time to do it. But as long as certain candidates are unwilling to even be involved with anything SEA, that won't happen. Kind of makes you think that if they can't even be involved in a debate with the other candidates and a moderatior chosen by the people (he is the mayor) then they have no business being on the school board where dealing with the teachers union is mandatory.
Also we made the YouTube circuit...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =eln9uVOBWqUXX
I'd just like to have a board that could keep us out of the media!
So you're afraid of media cameras? What's wrong? Is it that your face look good on camera?

I recommend you make a serious attempt to reach for every ounce of common sense you were born with so that you're strong enough to resist the array of left wing lies and propaganda that are deeply embedded in the Olentangy youtube you posted.
Question Everything

Akron, OH

#27741 Oct 7, 2013
Synchronistic Wanderings wrote:
How can people make a decision by only hearing some of the candidates debate? What candidates don't want to have a voice? I guess it's like mom said, "If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all."
I will say I've noticed alot of the Malone/Stucky/Anderson signs around town. Reminds me of Rigano/Petroni signs a couple of years ago.
November 5th will be interesting.
And why should concerned voters waste our time going to the one-sided pre-arranged presentation of the SEA views of the union school board candidates, Malone-Stucky-Anderson?
The November 2011 union school board candidates didn't have anything constructive to say; but they showed up to say nothing constructive anyway.
Isn't this production of the Mayor of Unionism just a repeat performance for Sure that has been played out in our public school board meetings since January 2010?
Our Students First/Responsible Budgeting non-union school board candidates, DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN, are wise not to waste their time.
Ode to B V

Cleveland, OH

#27742 Oct 7, 2013
Isn't it rich?
How we're a pair!
We running for Students First
They mired in greed...
Where are the signs?

Isn't it bliss
Will you approve?
They're spending money galore
We just can't move...
Where are the signs?
Send in the signs.

Just when we'd stopped shuttering doors
Parents here for parents, our children, and yours
Student First budgets, of that, we do care
Sure of this goal...
Help us get there

Don't we love drama?
Don't we love sneers?
He said that I said what they said...
We got that this year!
And where are the signs?
Send in the signs...

http://www.supportborostudents.com/
The ONLY way to Vote

Cleveland, OH

#27743 Oct 7, 2013
Question Everything wrote:
<quoted text>
And why should concerned voters waste our time going to the one-sided pre-arranged presentation of the SEA views of the union school board candidates, Malone-Stucky-Anderson?
The November 2011 union school board candidates didn't have anything constructive to say; but they showed up to say nothing constructive anyway.
Isn't this production of the Mayor of Unionism just a repeat performance for Sure that has been played out in our public school board meetings since January 2010?
Our Students First/Responsible Budgeting non-union school board candidates, DAVID BITNER and KOLTON VAUGHN, are wise not to waste their time.
Malone/Stuckey/Anderson for school!!
poundsand

Cleveland, OH

#27744 Oct 7, 2013
The ONLY way to Vote wrote:
<quoted text>
Malone/Stuckey/Anderson for school!!
let me fix that for you...

Malone/Stuckey/Anderson for UNIONS FIRST + SEA = MORE LEVIE$$$!!
lol

Akron, OH

#27745 Oct 7, 2013
poundsand wrote:
<quoted text>
let me fix that for you...
Malone/Stuckey/Anderson for UNIONS FIRST + SEA = MORE LEVIE$$$!!
new levies for SEA?.... not in MY community!
lol

Akron, OH

#27746 Oct 7, 2013
..@ode to B V

looks like that has been principal ron's kids are at it again!... kids say the darndest things.
lol

Akron, OH

#27747 Oct 7, 2013
The ONLY way to Vote wrote:
<quoted text>
Malone/Stuckey/Anderson for school!!
The ONLY way to Vote for Malone/Stuckey/Anderson is
the WRONG way.... for our school children's future education.

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