Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Brain Drain Alert wrote:
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Mrs. B has crossed the line of civility by running her mouth faster than her brain can re-arrange her prejudices and hatred toward everything good that is being accomplished by our reform minded Board of Education elected officials.

Yet another line of civility was crossed the day bulldogs were first allowed to square off beneath her clothing.
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Synchronistic Wanderings wrote:
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Doesn't Doug W. have a beard? Kind of prejeduce don't you think? Funny I though Doug sounded kind of educated.
Personal appearances can change; and beards come and go....

The time has now come for all government leaders who waste our money to GO in the direction of .... OUT OF ELECTED OFFICE.
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Personal appearances can change; and beards come and go....

The time has now come for all government leaders who waste our money to GO in the direction of .... OUT OF ELECTED OFFICE.

SO, If I hear you correctly, it is time for WADE and LAMB and Pickett and Wilhelm to go. They all have been in offce for decades and I would have to agree withyou. It is time to have a fresh set of eyes looking at how out tax payer money is spent. We would probably find that there is NO need for any tax increases and maybe a TAX CUT!

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pass that you are smoking so we can the pretty colors
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Personal appearances can change; and beards come and go....
The time has now come for all government leaders who waste our money to GO in the direction of .... OUT OF ELECTED OFFICE.
SO, If I hear you correctly, it is time for WADE and LAMB and Pickett and Wilhelm to go. They all have been in offce for decades and I would have to agree withyou. It is time to have a fresh set of eyes looking at how out tax payer money is spent. We would probably find that there is NO need for any tax increases and maybe a TAX CUT!
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In the past few decades we have seen a new tact develop in a floundering union system that today has become through legislation and opportunity increasingly irrelevant. A new strategy has evolved that is proving quite successful as public sector unions concentrate on smaller elected positions that control, in aggregate, where most tax revenues are spent in this country.

Most money is spent by obscure public utility commissions, police and fire commissions, port authorities, airport commissions, special districts, school districts, redevelopment districts, cities, and counties.

In Ohio,$57 billion dollars are spent at the local level compared with $62 billion dollars spent at the state government, often by elected officials who are virtually unknown to voters – those many names on the ballot that the typical voter skips over with no recognition whatsoever, as they search for their preferred big candidates running for higher office.

While many members of the fourth estate concentrate on the single source of state spending in Columbus, the myriad of local spending that amounts to just 10% less than the state total goes remarkably under reported.

Voters need to understand that the vast majority of government workers are employed by local agencies and districts that are managed by elected officials nobody’s heard of, EXCEPT for the UNIONS who SELECTED them, FINANCED them, and NOW NEGOTIATE WITH them.

That these unions almost always financially support partisan political parties is secondary to the fact they are acting in the public sector, which means there is a clear conflict of interests between their agenda – more pay, more benefits, more staff, more job security – and the interests of the public at large.

How the reformers of Springboro and Clearcreek Township fare this November bears watching.

Will unions claim control of the purse strings and work conditions, or not?
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When Demorats controlled the levers of power under legendary Speaker Riffe and Governor Celeste in 1983, they rammed through Ohio's pro-union collective bargaining law. That law, far more than any other piece of legislation, is responsible for the ever-increasing compensation package costs of government, especially at the local level. You may support those high costs, and believe taxpayers should foot the bill no matter how high those costs rise, but it is indisputable that public sector collective bargaining drove Ohio's state and local tax burden from among the lowest in the country to among the highest.
The system today is one in which the party leaders control who runs for office (or receives a vacancy appointment) and which pieces of legislation make it out of the legislature. Parties endorse candidates in primaries and then do all that they can do to eliminate primaries or guarantee their endorsed candidate prevails. As a result, legislators are indebted to the poitical party and leadership for their jobs and dependent upon them for reelection support.
This sytem, therefore, leads to the outcome you would expect when party control matters more than implementing the right policies. It frankly doesn't matter who is actually elected. The outcome is one in which timidity of action and nibbling around the margins of big issues predominates. The focus is on doing enough to claim the mantle of reform, but not too much so that the next election is at risk. It is a status quo system.
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Depends on who is hired by the voters.

Professionals or citizen soldiers?
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If you doubt that government labor unions are Ohio's most powerful interest, ponder this question: what business interest in Ohio has thrived over the last three decades without any legislation to curb its power or ability to operate? The answer, of course, is none. Labor unions are big business; and only the unions profit.

We are fortunate in our local school district to have reform minded elected officials; And citizen soldiers fighting to protect our winning agenda of fixing budgets and levy alternatives,
vs. hostile union school board candidates seeking to re-instate Ron Malone's status quo union first
agenda, leaving our kids' best interest behind. financial interest.

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Waste Watchers wrote:
If you doubt that government labor unions are Ohio's most powerful interest, ponder this question: what business interest in Ohio has thrived over the last three decades without any legislation to curb its power or ability to operate? The answer, of course, is none. Labor unions are big business; and only the unions profit.
We are fortunate in our local school district to have reform minded elected officials; And citizen soldiers fighting to protect our winning agenda of fixing budgets and levy alternatives,
vs. hostile union school board candidates seeking to re-instate Ron Malone's status quo union first
agenda, leaving our kids' best interest behind. financial interest.
i agree with your statement
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Thank You Kelly wrote:
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Our Springboro Education Association members and Parents
For S-U-R-E that are embarrassed because our BOE President, Kelly Kohls, is In The News, should read the comparison of Michigan news in the above post vs what is said in Ohio about Springboro Schools. The following is from Letters to the editor in the Dayton Daily News, August 18, 2013.
Springboro citizens should thank Kohls
Re “Kohls won’t run for re-election,” Aug, 8:
A renewal levy with a decrease? Unheard of, except in Springboro, Ohio.District citizens should thank Springboro school president Kelly Kohls and board members David Petroni and Jim Rigano for the courage and tenacity exhibited in putting the district’s finances in order while still improving the education of their students. The teachers union and their supporters opposed them at every turn. Common sense and fiscal accountability finally prevailed. A word to the wise: When voting in November for a replacement, keep in mind the belief that put your district into financial difficulty to begin with. That result? Five defeated tax increase levies. The belief: There’s no end to dunning taxpayers for more, using the false mantra “It’s for the kids.”
-Thomas Subler,Versailles
Private sector Ohioans already carry a heavy burden of taxes, have job prospects grimmer than any time since the Great Depression, have homes continuing to decrease in value, and have retirement accounts hit by the stock market declines. Public sector unions wield enormous power and influence, as the most entrenched interest in America and the single largest spenders on elections in America.
Lessoning the power of pubic sector union does not mean balancing the budget on the backs of government workers. It just means placing them in the same shoes their private sector neighbors have been walking in for far too long.
People in this community should ask ourselves if school board candidates Ron Malone and David Stuckey (both of whom are retired career professional educators) are not so deeply embedded in their personal benefits of status quo collective bargaining rights, that they are incapable of seeing that their past expertise in education is all wrong for our kids. Isn't the school board campaign of Ron Malone, David Stuckey, and Charles Anderson all about loyalty and power to unionism; at the great cost of leaving our kids left behind?
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Imagine the FACT that our current reform-minded BOE has and IS investing over $8.5 million in tools for teachers and students; Investing over $7.5 million in ALL our staff (Total of $16 million Thru 2017) and giving the taxpayers a $6.7 million tax break over 5 years! Just Amazing!

Check the BOE meeting agenda on the school website...there's more just amazing facts, including the approval of resolution for setting compensation for admininstrative staff (up to 2% merit raise) as voted on at the August 29 BOE meeting.

Voters in our school district should ask themselves WHY school board candidate Ron Malone has major concerns with decisions being made....
by our reform-minded BOE representatives?

Inquiring minds need to know how Mr. Malone's campaign to gain control of the board to put the re-emphasis on the value of the educator, is doing what's right for our school children and our community members?
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Just Amazing wrote:
Imagine the FACT that our current reform-minded BOE has and IS investing over $8.5 million in tools for teachers and students; Investing over $7.5 million in ALL our staff (Total of $16 million Thru 2017) and giving the taxpayers a $6.7 million tax break over 5 years! Just Amazing!
Check the BOE meeting agenda on the school website...there's more just amazing facts, including the approval of resolution for setting compensation for admininstrative staff (up to 2% merit raise) as voted on at the August 29 BOE meeting.
Voters in our school district should ask themselves WHY school board candidate Ron Malone has major concerns with decisions being made....
by our reform-minded BOE representatives?
Inquiring minds need to know how Mr. Malone's campaign to gain control of the board to put the re-emphasis on the value of the educator, is doing what's right for our school children and our community members?
Inquiring minds need to know how Mr. Malone's campaign to gain control of the board and to re-emphasize the value of the educator will ultimately help stem this perpetual nonending flow of outlandish pay and benefits increases to school union staff who exist, live and breathe in a bubble of entitlement.
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Inquiring minds need to know how Mr. Malone's campaign to gain control of the board and to re-emphasize the value of the educator will ultimately help stem this perpetual nonending flow of outlandish pay and benefits increases to school union staff who exist, live and breathe in a bubble of entitlement.
....Schools on the ballot in November

Voters in our school district will vote to fill three of five seats on the Springboro Board of Education this November. They also will be asked to vote “For” or “Against” Issue 14. Issue 14 is on the ballot to renew a current operating levy that expires at the end of this year. Although it is a renewal, Issue 14 asks for less money than the previous levy. It will assess 8.78 mills for each one dollar of valuation, which equals $0.878 for each one hundred dollars of valuation. Issue 14 is a 15% decrease in school property taxes while also supplying 18% of our school district’s annual operating budget. Bottom line: The proposed renewal reduces your taxes and supports our schools.

Local politicians rarely cut taxes, whether it is our property taxes, city income taxes, county sales taxes, or other local taxes; rates continue to climb and there is little debate about reducing taxes. Ever wonder why that is the case? Human nature and labor unions are the reasons.

The 2013 Board of Education campaign is taking shape in Springboro, and there is a clear theme emerging from three of the candidates. The opposition’s run for school board seems to be fueled by fear. It is dark and angry — promising to bring calm to a storm.
The problem with their platform is that there is no storm.
If there is a sense of turbulence in our community, it has been manufactured by those who oppose change, wish to suffocate debates they would surely lose, and return to the days of endless levies, punitive actions against our citizens, and never ending financial emergencies within the district.
Why would our community want to do that?

The fear of change will not chase our community back into the darkness of previously failed practices.
Let’s stay on this new course and move in the direction of leadership for our children, schools and community.
learn more about us, visit http://educatespringboro.org/ .
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Depression you say -- Clearcreek trustee remains under ethics review"

COLUMBUS — An ethics review involving Clearcreek Twp. Trustee Ed Wade continues despite a special prosecutor’s recommendation against pursuing criminal charges, the chief investigative attorney for the Ohio Ethics Commission.

“At this point, it’s still ongoing,” ethics attorney Paul Nick said. For more than a year, the state ethics commission has been reviewing whether Wade’s insurance agency’s administration of the township government’s health insurance claims violated state law.

State auditors made findings against Wade in connection with about $1.2 million in health insurance coverage provided to the township government administered by Wade’s agency.

Wade, a trustee since 1977, was re-elected in November.

TIME TO GO!

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tellthetruth wrote:
Depression you say -- Clearcreek trustee remains under ethics review"
COLUMBUS — An ethics review involving Clearcreek Twp. Trustee Ed Wade continues despite a special prosecutor’s recommendation against pursuing criminal charges, the chief investigative attorney for the Ohio Ethics Commission.
“At this point, it’s still ongoing,” ethics attorney Paul Nick said. For more than a year, the state ethics commission has been reviewing whether Wade’s insurance agency’s administration of the township government’s health insurance claims violated state law.
State auditors made findings against Wade in connection with about $1.2 million in health insurance coverage provided to the township government administered by Wade’s agency.
Wade, a trustee since 1977, was re-elected in November.
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I agree...I will support, campaign for, and vote for Cathy Anspach, and anyone not connected to the "good ole boys" at the township ..and they are thicker than flies at that place.
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tellthetruth wrote:
Depression you say -- Clearcreek trustee remains under ethics review"
COLUMBUS — An ethics review involving Clearcreek Twp. Trustee Ed Wade continues despite a special prosecutor’s recommendation against pursuing criminal charges, the chief investigative attorney for the Ohio Ethics Commission.
“At this point, it’s still ongoing,” ethics attorney Paul Nick said. For more than a year, the state ethics commission has been reviewing whether Wade’s insurance agency’s administration of the township government’s health insurance claims violated state law.
State auditors made findings against Wade in connection with about $1.2 million in health insurance coverage provided to the township government administered by Wade’s agency.
Wade, a trustee since 1977, was re-elected in November.
TIME TO GO!
In regards to this Wade investigation, in my mind's eye unfortunately I'm seeing a future that involves a rug of substantial size, along with a number of heavy duty brooms.
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bodhisattva wrote:
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In regards to this Wade investigation, in my mind's eye unfortunately I'm seeing a future that involves a rug of substantial size, along with a number of heavy duty brooms.
Taxpayers are fed up with local government leaders whose inept leadership skills are as old and outdated as those old and outdated 1983 collective bargaining laws, fearfully clinging to their wonderful sense of entitlement and ownership of property wealth, all theirs to be used in whatever way they think will help them emotionally blackmail for more, more, more.
I believe voters are responsible enough to recognize this November election day that Enough is Enough and the time has now come for Mr. Wade to go.... Picture It, then practice it into reality...

"To accomplish great things, we must dream as well as act."
(Anatole France)

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it is funny that you chose a french person who wrote under several names to express your thoughts on Ed and you do the same by posting on this blog perceiving a situation is only part of the truth ed's dad got this ball rolling when Ed was dirting his pants it may be wrong but voters in springboro knew this cars history - and voted Ed into office much like the current BOE election if voters "request another" crack of the whip we all suffer here is a thought dont for anyone on BOE ballot as a sign that we voters disapprove of situaion and refuse to be hogged ring into "back to past" BOE methods
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Taxpayers are fed up with local government leaders whose inept leadership skills are as old and outdated as those old and outdated 1983 collective bargaining laws, fearfully clinging to their wonderful sense of entitlement and ownership of property wealth, all theirs to be used in whatever way they think will help them emotionally blackmail for more, more, more.
I believe voters are responsible enough to recognize this November election day that Enough is Enough and the time has now come for Mr. Wade to go.... Picture It, then practice it into reality...
"To accomplish great things, we must dream as well as act."
(Anatole France)
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it is funny that you chose a french person who wrote under several names to express your thoughts on Ed and you do the same by posting on this blog perceiving a situation is only part of the truth ed's dad got this ball rolling when Ed was dirting his pants it may be wrong but voters in springboro knew this cars history - and voted Ed into office much like the current BOE election if voters "request another" crack of the whip we all suffer here is a thought dont for anyone on BOE ballot as a sign that we voters disapprove of situaion and refuse to be hogged ring into "back to past" BOE methods
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Am I correct in picturing you and me on the same page in the direction of political leadership....?

As a parent and teacher of preschoolers, I am a visual learner;
if I tell a child "you are driving me up the wall" then I understand that the child will picture a car driving up the wall;
words are powerful tools for the mind-- that's why I choose to think on words with a message of inspiration.

I'm not an old timer in this community, so I do not know the family background of the powers that be (including Ed Wade/Sandra Wray) who appear to sense entitlement of every homeowner's collective property wealth in this Springboro/Clearcreek Township voting district, as property of the local government to "spread around the way government thinks to their best advantage."

I often hear long time citizens of this community sighing in resignation that -- it's always been like this and it's not going to change -- I disagree with that mental image of defeat.

Voters in this community have opportunity to go to the polls in November and choose reform-minded candidates (or business as usual status quo candidates) to elect as school board representatives and township trustees. When we picture ourselves doing the right thing and then act on that positive image, THEN we have Victory, no matter which way elections go.
We are never victims of circumstances. Doing the right thing is not always popular; and what is popular is not always right.

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i agree with the current BOE action not the view before the change 5 levies vote should show that voters wanted change and money was found. As for Mrs Wray she is a great teacher and admin. one only a few at school syst. now. As for change doing it for the sake of change is wrong, change is necessary when the status quo is changed when i went to boro ralph wade was part of boro school kept moneies her nothing wrong but society has changed for the worse perception is seen as truth
in boro there has been no negative proof against Wades insurance like the athletic boosters treasurer but the preceived view has been tainted

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