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Livin in 5 Points

Girard, OH

#26889 Aug 28, 2013
New Day New Attitude wrote:
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That's funny! But, that was the principal who has been on the job for the PAST forty years... so a few naps here and there are in order, but not in the board room!
Dr. Malone and Don Miller are like two sleepy, confused peas tucked tightly in a pod. Obviously they're under an impression district voters elect citizens to the Springboro School BORED.
tongue in cheek

Girard, OH

#26890 Aug 28, 2013
New Day New Attitude wrote:
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In fact, the following needs are ACCOUNTED FOR in the current budget through the 2017 budget:
· over $2 million in text books and new adoptions
· over $2.1 million for new buses
· over $3.7 million in capital needs and deferred maintenance
· over $1.5 million in technology
· over $7.5 million increase for our staff in raises.
For Sure Springboro parents owe a debt of gratitude to Springboro taxpayers and our school board representatives and school district leaders, for all that they do ensuring a quality classroom education for all students, while making Springboro a safe and affordable place to live, learn, work, and play sports!
With our school community and community of taxpayers Working Together, our kids really can have it all for a great future
while living within the framework of children's first budget and renewal levy in the fall.
But! But! Who around here really cares about facts and figures?!?
There's nothing "happy and shiny" about facts and figures!!!
Electing "insanely popular" Ron Malone to the BOE will help make Springboro Schools "happy and shiny" like they used to be!!
Don't take it from me...Go ask the students at the high school!
They know what works best for our schools!!

(-;
Remember the TIme

Piqua, OH

#26891 Aug 28, 2013
tongue in cheek wrote:
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But! But! Who around here really cares about facts and figures?!?
There's nothing "happy and shiny" about facts and figures!!!
Electing "insanely popular" Ron Malone to the BOE will help make Springboro Schools "happy and shiny" like they used to be!!
Don't take it from me...Go ask the students at the high school!
They know what works best for our schools!!
(-;
Happy and Shiny?...lol
Remember the time during 2008 new levy frenzy, Lisa/NFSS gals were roaming through our neighborhoods pleading with us to just skip a cup of Starbucks coffee -one day at a time-for the rest of our lives; and give the money to the professional educators? Then came the rumor that our kids bathrooms and sports locker rooms had gross mold and mildew; and we asked the business manager if this was true; And he just told us that "if we would volunteer for a committee, then we could learn about all the good things the school was doing?" omg... those were the days!
But we will never go back to that old business as usual when parents just said yes to levies and left everything to the union teacher in every classroom!
Every time I go to our kids' schools, I can see the good things that our children's first budgeting is doing for our children;
everytime I see our kids' bus "coming home" I feel good knowing that our kids have had a good day at school; and it's good to know that our money is being carefully budgeted, so that the good times can just keep rolling along until 2017! All we have to do is get out to vote victory at the polls for that renewal; and then follow those three new BOE members into the business meetings and hold them Accountable for every decision made -- making sure that our kid's best interest is Number One in every decision made!
We must make sure that come January 2014 that "we the people" have our rightfully purchased seat at the Head Union Master's Table in the Boro Board Room.
Survey Says

Piqua, OH

#26892 Aug 28, 2013
tongue in cheek wrote:
<quoted text>
But! But! Who around here really cares about facts and figures?!?
There's nothing "happy and shiny" about facts and figures!!!
Electing "insanely popular" Ron Malone to the BOE will help make Springboro Schools "happy and shiny" like they used to be!!
Don't take it from me...Go ask the students at the high school!
They know what works best for our schools!!
(-;
How many parents studied the results of the Springboro High School Student Survey - Tally of Desired Characteristics in a New Principal? This was conducted in the Spring, 2013, by our school superintendent and the results were brought to the public board meeting. The results clearly revealed that Principal Ron really was more of a Pal than a professional educator by the answers of only 429 students, ages 14-17, out of a total high school enrollment of approximately 1563 students. You Are Right-- If you go ask the students what works best for our schools -- All 429 students agreed that the the most important characteristic for our new high school principal was "To listen to student ideas and suggestions." (Now, it's interesting that number of about 400 keeps coming up among the parents/alumni of boro that petitions every decision the board makes to meet their demands.)

Only 17 of these kids surveyed thought it was the principal's job to "Implement practices to hold the school accountable for student success; and Inform families of practices." Guess that's why the Kids "PAL" Ron Malone hid the WC ESC report in the drawer of his desk. Guess that's why the importance of parents paying student activities fees were never communicated from the school to the students parents at home; And why at the time of the Spring 2013 principal survey, the students' class activities fees were past due in the amount of $31,000!
Parents must be more diligent getting engaged in their own
child's success in academic achievement; and demand more than another PAL in our professional educators at school.
(And Voters Must Demand More in the Board Room than a Great PAL for the Springboro Education Association).
Eyes Wide Open

Piqua, OH

#26893 Aug 28, 2013
What is true wrote:
WOW how disappointing our kids got the shaft in high school.
What about Stucky? Did he teach?
Yes, it is disappointing how our kids got the shaft in high school.
Our priority now is making sure in November that Ron Malone does not get a second chance to "shaft" our kids in the board room.
motorvoter

Cincinnati, OH

#26894 Aug 28, 2013
Does anyone know the scope of the popularity of these phony Constitution classes on Tuesday nights? Apparently they're being taught by someone named Ricki Pepin, who apparently has no law degree or teaching degree or any other discernible qualification.

And it's worse than that. She also peddles religious snake oil. If you send her $30, she'll tell you how to prevent almost all diseases through a Biblical diet. She wants everyone to go back to a time when life expectancy was far lower. And anyone who thinks that diet will cure you should look at the case of Steve Jobs. Despite apparently having no medical qualifications, she thinks she's an expert in this are as well.

At 1:00 of the following video, she expressly rejects the germ theory of disease:
www.youtube.com/watch...

This is the person that the current majority of the Board wants to educate your children regarding the U.S. Constitution.

This just gets more bizarre as time goes on.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26895 Aug 28, 2013
motorvoter wrote:
Does anyone know the scope of the popularity of these phony Constitution classes on Tuesday nights? Apparently they're being taught by someone named Ricki Pepin, who apparently has no law degree or teaching degree or any other discernible qualification.
And it's worse than that. She also peddles religious snake oil. If you send her $30, she'll tell you how to prevent almost all diseases through a Biblical diet. She wants everyone to go back to a time when life expectancy was far lower. And anyone who thinks that diet will cure you should look at the case of Steve Jobs. Despite apparently having no medical qualifications, she thinks she's an expert in this are as well.
At 1:00 of the following video, she expressly rejects the germ theory of disease:
www.youtube.com/watch...
This is the person that the current majority of the Board wants to educate your children regarding the U.S. Constitution.
This just gets more bizarre as time goes on.
It is a sad state of affairs when you would cast aspersions upon someone wishing to advance knowledge regarding the United States Constitution simply because the woman is neither a lawyer nor a professional educator. Ms Peppin does appear to be able to read and comprehend the written word and in all likelihood is better educated by today's standards than the men who wrote the document themselves 230 years ago.

To assume that only a select few with dubious qualifications are competent to interpret the meaning of those words that form the foundation of our country does disservice to the words themselves and the spirit in which they were written.

The second part of your rant against this woman reveals an even slimier side that projects your hatred and disgust of anyone with a belief system that is not your own. I watched and listened to Ms Peppin describe her belief in we are a product of what we eat. I double checked her statements and found that they follow generally accepted medical practice in this country. Too much sugar is bad for you, obesity can lead to undesirable health consequences that can be ameliorated by a common sense diet.

Ms. Peppin makes none of the assertions you abscribe to her and you do not have to be a doctor or medical professional to note them. The evidence, the studies, and the research have been done by abler persons than I in this area. As a consequence I am able to read and comprehend the results of others hard work in these areas without the benefit of a medical degree and draw my own conclusions.

The outright attempt to denigrate this woman for her belief system and faith is nothing less than despicable and once again reveals more about the culture and character of those who purvey this garbage.

Don't let the darkness descend, vote for the sunshine, vote for inclusiveness, and vote for the people who will continue to support the free expression of ideas.
motorvoter

Cincinnati, OH

#26896 Aug 28, 2013
Heh Doug - before I respond to this in full - I'd like to know - are you sending Ms. Peppin $30.00 to get rid of 80% of the diseases you might one day suffer? She really doesn't say too much about the magic remedies she's discovered, as she really really wants $30.00 a pop, but it does seem that, if you believe that she's qualified,$30.00 is quite a bargain for preventing the suffering and perhaps death of you and your loved ones.

So - when will you be sending her the money?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26897 Aug 28, 2013
motorvoter wrote:
Heh Doug - before I respond to this in full - I'd like to know - are you sending Ms. Peppin $30.00 to get rid of 80% of the diseases you might one day suffer? She really doesn't say too much about the magic remedies she's discovered, as she really really wants $30.00 a pop, but it does seem that, if you believe that she's qualified,$30.00 is quite a bargain for preventing the suffering and perhaps death of you and your loved ones.
So - when will you be sending her the money?
Once again as you so always do, you slime people with innuendo, half truth, and lies.

No where in the video you produced does Ms Peppin make any such claim.

Perhaps you can make sense of this report by peers of Mr. Malone and explain what it means to our readers. It is more on topic about the rigor, or lack thereof, of course work our children face each day and who is responsible for that curriculum.

Ask Mr. Malone who is responsible for that one, or better yet interpret what his peers at the Warren County Educational Services Center who audited his program of studies had to say.

Page 10

From the 2012 report by the Warren County Educational Service Center.

Mr. Malone had been reviewed numerous times previously and made aware of his program of studies shortcomings.

Why did Mr. Malone choose not to pursue the direction and recommendations provided for the benefit of the children?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS...

"SHS still offers general level classes (Algebra 1A and !B, physical science, US HIstory, and World History) Thus, not all students experience a college preparatory curriculum. Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the High Schools That Work (HSTW) philosophy, SHS believes that offering low level courses is in the best interest of students. THIS BELIEF, however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA."

Dumbing down the curriculum is apparently not in the best interest of the student.

Nothing substantiates this belief in either research or data.

Yet, that was the path Mr. Malone chose for your children.

These are not my conclusions, but the conclusions of professional educators hired by the school district to audit our program of studies before this board ever came to be.
motorvoter

Cincinnati, OH

#26898 Aug 28, 2013
Heh Doug - if this Pepin has found the magic secret to good health and avoiding death, why doesn't she just tell us? Why does she want to charge $30?

Some Christian, huh?

And this is the person you apparently want to teach constitutional law to your children.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26899 Aug 29, 2013
motorvoter wrote:
Heh Doug - if this Pepin has found the magic secret to good health and avoiding death, why doesn't she just tell us? Why does she want to charge $30?
Some Christian, huh?
And this is the person you apparently want to teach constitutional law to your children.
On a purely voluntary basis, interested ADULTS who wished to learn more about our Constitution did so.

Why do you feel the need to tell less than the truth?

Ms. Peppin is a private citizen who is not employed by our school system, has no sway nor control over our educational system in Springboro, and only wished to utilize space to teach her class.

One person who does have that sway and had that control is one Ron Malone.

Maybe we should be more interested in why Mr. Malone chose, according to his professional peers, to dumb down our curriculum to the detriment of our children, their families, and the taxpayers.
Perhaps you could explain to us mere mortals the meaning of the Warren County Educational Services Centers reports regarding Mr. Malone's dumbing down of our children's curriculum.

Mr. Malone had been reviewed numerous times previously and made aware of his program of studies shortcomings.

Why did Mr. Malone choose not to pursue the direction and recommendations provided for the benefit of the children?

Page 10

From the 2012 report by the Warren County Educational Service Center.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS...

"SHS still offers general level classes (Algebra 1A and !B, physical science, US HIstory, and World History) Thus, not all students experience a college preparatory curriculum. Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the High Schools That Work (HSTW) philosophy, SHS believes that offering low level courses is in the best interest of students. THIS BELIEF, however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA."

Dumbing down the curriculum is apparently not in the best interest of the student.

Nothing substantiates this belief in either research or data.

Yet, that was the path Mr. Malone chose for your children.

These are not my conclusions, but the conclusions of professional educators hired by the school district to audit our program of studies before this board ever came to be.
Surely You Jest Sir

Maineville, OH

#26900 Aug 29, 2013
It is a sad state of affairs when you would cast aspersions upon someone wishing to advance knowledge regarding the United States Constitution simply because the woman is neither a lawyer nor a professional educator. Ms Peppin does appear to be able to read and comprehend the written word and in all likelihood is better educated by today's standards than the men who wrote the document themselves 230 years ago.

Doug, I doubt that very much. The Founding Fathers were extremely well educated and spoke/read Greek and Latin: Classical training usually began at age eight, whether in a school or at home under the guidance of a private tutor. One remarkable teacher who inculcated his students with a love of the classics was Scotsman Donald Robertson. Many future luminaries were enrolled in his school: James Madison, John Taylor of Caroline, John Tyler and George Rogers Clark, among others. Robertson and teachers like him nourished their charges with a healthy diet of Greek and Latin, and required that they learn to master Virgil, Horace, Justinian, Tacitus, Herodotus, Plutarch, Lucretius and Thucydides. Further along in their education, students were required to translate Cicero’s Orations and Virgil’sAeneid. They were expected to translate Greek and Latin passages aloud, write out the translations in English, and then re-translate the passages back into the original language using a different tense.
There was a more pragmatic side to the Founders’ classical education as well.Twenty-seven of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were college educated. Moreover, of the 55 delegates who attended the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia in 1787, 30 were college graduates. That is an impressive feat given the challenging entrance requirements of 18th-century universities. Fortunately for the young Founding Fathers, the teachers of the day exercised their students in Greek and Latin, so that their pupils could meet the rigorous entrance requirements of colonial colleges. Those colleges stipulated that entering freshmen be able to read, translate and expound the Greco-Roman classical works.
http://21stcenturycicero.wordpress.com/tyrran...

Ms. Peppin cannot be compared to the Founding Father's as far as education is concerned...or anything else. She's is just trying to make a living.
Surely You Jest Sir

Maineville, OH

#26901 Aug 29, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
... THIS BELIEF, however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA."
Dumbing down the curriculum is apparently not in the best interest of the student.
Nothing substantiates this belief in either research or data.
Yet, that was the path Mr. Malone chose for your children.
These are not my conclusions, but the conclusions of professional educators hired by the school district to audit our program of studies before this board ever came to be.
I guess creationism and pseudo-history is substantiated by research and data? How does this elevate the curriculum when it is not even included in the assessments/testing that the students are required to know? I must have missed those questions on the ACT...didn't ever see those questions.
Surely You Jest Sir

Maineville, OH

#26902 Aug 29, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
On a purely voluntary basis, interested ADULTS who wished to learn more about our Constitution did so.
Why do you feel the need to tell less than the truth?
Ms. Peppin is a private citizen who is not employed by our school system, has no sway nor control over our educational system in Springboro, and only wished to utilize space to teach her class.
From Ms. Peppin's Week 4 Class Outline. These are her comments at the bottom of the page: An add-on to Lesson 4 article on Socialism & Education.
This is another eye-opener for why our schools cannot be reformed in their current state. They need to be completely
dismantled and rebuilt. Our educational system IS working to perform what it was designed to perform, as stated below –
creating students who will follow a new social order, NOT THINK FOR THEMSELVES USING ABSOLUTE TRUTH AS
THEIR BASIS. School levies perpetuate the below-stated outcomes. This is not an indictment against individual teachers,
but rather against what they are REQUIRED to teach. It’s in the curriculum. Sometimes it is subtle, and even the best
teachers will not be able to overcome the basic foundational elements that are being put forth in the curriculum.
Blessings, Ricki :)
1/26/2012 http://www.arky.org/Constitution/IOTC/Educati...

"Completely dismantled and rebuilt" is the summary of the Constitutional Nutritionist on education? I'd say she has more of an agenda than the Constitution and nutrition. Ok...now you go Doug...relate this back to Malone...
SAY NO TO CRAZY

Maineville, OH

#26903 Aug 29, 2013
reality wrote:
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Please stop it!! I'm at board meetings all the time!!!You know exactly what I'm talking about. Springboro board meetings are lined wall to wall with teachers. Speakers are required to state their name and street address. If and when a parent of a district student speaks in support of a conservative agenda or speaks out strongly against a SEA agenda, they run a serious risk that their children or their families will become targets for some sort of future retaliation. This sort of stuff went on unabated during the David Baker era and much of it continues today. The majority of parents in this district over time tend to either get discouraged or disgusted with school politics. It's not surprising that many parents that consistently attend board meetings do so because they have union jobs or strong union ties, and they feel as though it's their duty to support union brethren.
Nope...don't have a union job. Nope...don't have strong union ties. Just trying to keep the crazy out of the curriculum.
STEPPING STONE

Maineville, OH

#26904 Aug 29, 2013
Did You Know wrote:
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Mrs. Kohls said from the beginning of her service to our schools and community that her end game was not "just to get re-elected"...
No, her end game was to send out flares via national news stories, such as creationism, pseudo-history, charter schools, etc. to get the attention of "like-minded" people to garner future support for after the Springboro BOE. That was her strategy, along with using the BOE position to start the OSBLC, get into bed with AFP, "campaign" across Ohio under the guise of her presentations, and then good-bye to Springboro! Boro was just a stepping stone...just wait and watch...the supporters were duped.
tellthetruth

Cleveland, OH

#26905 Aug 29, 2013
Why is this dirtbag still employed?

Clearcreek administrator retiring after 35 years

CLEARCREEK TWP., Warren County — Township Administrator Dennis Pickett is expected to announce his retirement Wednesday after 35 years in public administration.

Pickett, 57, said he was retiring, effective July 31, 2012.“It’s just time,” he said.

Pickett, administrator in Clearcreek Twp. since November 1985, also worked as administrative assistant in Franklin Twp.“I certainly will miss him. He’s been good for Clearcreek Twp.,” said Ed Wade, chairman of the township trustees.

In his time with the township, Pickett has seen the community and staff grow, and the government move from a small office to a sprawling government center.

However, he clashed with Linda Oda, the fiscal officer elected in 2007, prompting a review last year by the trustees. Also last year, Trustee Cathy Anspach sought discipline against Pickett for failing to advise township officials that former trustee Dr. Greg McDonald, a local dentist, had been receiving health insurance for himself and his wife that was subsidized through funds set aside for unemployed workers.

On Tuesday Anspach said their dispute was in the past.

“I think he’s just burned out on the job,” she said.
partisan

Dayton, OH

#26906 Aug 29, 2013
STEPPING STONE wrote:
<quoted text>
No, her end game was to send out flares via national news stories, such as creationism, pseudo-history, charter schools, etc. to get the attention of "like-minded" people to garner future support for after the Springboro BOE. That was her strategy, along with using the BOE position to start the OSBLC, get into bed with AFP, "campaign" across Ohio under the guise of her presentations, and then good-bye to Springboro! Boro was just a stepping stone...just wait and watch...the supporters were duped.
Duped ? 4 years of no levy tax increases ?...dupe way...works for me...no tax increase is no tax increase any way you spin it !
partisan

Dayton, OH

#26907 Aug 29, 2013
tellthetruth wrote:
Why is this dirtbag still employed?
Clearcreek administrator retiring after 35 years
CLEARCREEK TWP., Warren County — Township Administrator Dennis Pickett is expected to announce his retirement Wednesday after 35 years in public administration.
Pickett, 57, said he was retiring, effective July 31, 2012.“It’s just time,” he said.
Pickett, administrator in Clearcreek Twp. since November 1985, also worked as administrative assistant in Franklin Twp.“I certainly will miss him. He’s been good for Clearcreek Twp.,” said Ed Wade, chairman of the township trustees.
In his time with the township, Pickett has seen the community and staff grow, and the government move from a small office to a sprawling government center.
However, he clashed with Linda Oda, the fiscal officer elected in 2007, prompting a review last year by the trustees. Also last year, Trustee Cathy Anspach sought discipline against Pickett for failing to advise township officials that former trustee Dr. Greg McDonald, a local dentist, had been receiving health insurance for himself and his wife that was subsidized through funds set aside for unemployed workers.
On Tuesday Anspach said their dispute was in the past.
“I think he’s just burned out on the job,” she said.
Pickett has had or still has issues with beverages if you get my drift....of course he's burned out, better yet, should have been PUT out years ago.
Reject Forced Unionism

Piqua, OH

#26908 Aug 29, 2013
Children are better off with a parent who has limited knowledge about the world, but a lot of love to give them than a teacher with a doctorate who makes too much money and is instructing children to vote for progressive causes ruining the mind of young people for the first 15 years of their life, till they wake up at age 35 and realize that all the leftist causes they believe in were the creations of their public schools. They spend the rest of their lives unlearning all the garbage they learned in K-12 education. It would save them a great deal of headache later to not learn those things at all and let a computer at home teach them the basics like math, English, science, then letting The History Channel teach them everything else. That would be much more effective than even the best public schools paid for with stolen property tax money.

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