Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Who Do You Trust wrote:
"Wouldn't it be better for the human spirit and for the soul of this nation to encourage people to accept more responsibility to care for each other rather than leaving those tasks to paid bureaucrats." -Ronald Reagan
"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan

"We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we're going to succeed." - Ronald Reagan

"What does an actor know about politics?" - Ronald Reagan

And your point is...?
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bombs away wrote:
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what are the coordinates....latitude and longitude
Now that's that spirt you Sara Pailin wannabe.. If you can't beat'em blow them up!
- GB
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In The Direction of Out
POSTED ON AUGUST 5, 2013 //
By David Bowman

"If you believe that the past year has been a great one for our schools, a year that saw the reputation of our schools strengthen, a year that brightened the future of our children, a year that made you proud to say you are from Springboro, than by all means vote to continue on in this direction. If you believe that divisive politics, guns in classrooms, charter schools, creationism, attorney fees, bad media coverage, poor employee relations, and diminishing academic options are great for our children, will increase our property values, and will make our town a place people will increasingly want to call home, vote to continue in this direction."

I believe that most school districts in the area would love to be as fiscally sound as Springboro is now. Unequivocally and with out any doubt.

Not too long ago it was year after year of levy campaigns demanding more money for our school system or the cataclysmic end was near. Five times they asked for anywhere from $30-45,000,000. Five times the levies failed to pass. At no time during those contentious campaigns were the public ever apprised of the true nature of the school finances. And that was the sum total of the game being played.

Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano brought forth a Budget and Finance committee that operated in the open and was routinely well attended by union representatives, Neighbors for Springboro Schools, and SURE ladies. Those in attendance knew what the Budget and Finance Committee knew, it was all done in the open.

Divisive politics seems to be anything Mr. Bowman disagrees with in theory or practice. The beauty of this school board is that they performed their functions in a public forum that allowed input from the public. This was transparency in action. If you liked the idea or did not like idea, at least it was out front for everyone to see and debate. It was not cloaked in secret, noted late on an agenda, and passed before anyone had seen, heard, or had a chance to vet the concept.

Considering most of the bad media coverage was a direct result of collusion with a compliant media and an active union, this is hardly surprising. How many media outlets like news items on fiscal responsibility, transparency, and accountability? Not many when you can count on the union to drum up a couple hundred people for some good photo ops.

And finally the crux of the entire affair, the diminishing academic options.
Ask Mr. Malone who is responsible for that one, or better yet his peers at the Warren County Educational Services Center who audited his program of studies.

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From the 2012 report by the Warren County Educational Service Center.

Mr. Malone had been reviewed numerous times previously and made aware of his program of studies shortcomings.

Why did Mr. Malone choose not to pursue the direction and recommendations provided for the benefit of the children?

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS ...

"SHS still offers general level classes (Algebra 1A and !B, physical science, US HIstory, and World History) Thus, not all students experience a college preparatory curriculum. Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the High Schools That Work (HSTW) philosophy, SHS believes that offering low level courses is in the best interest of students. THIS BELIEF, however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA."

Dumbing down the curriculum is apparently not in the best interest of the student.

Nothing substantiates this belief in either research or data.

Yet, that was the path Mr. Malone chose for your children.

These are not my conclusions, but the conclusions of professional educators hired by the school district to audit our program of studies before this board ever came to be.
Straight to the Point

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And your point is wrote:
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"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
"We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we're going to succeed." - Ronald Reagan
"What does an actor know about politics?" - Ronald Reagan
And your point is...?
Point Is.... For SURE people are even more stupid than facts.

What does a community activists know for SURE about multi-million dollar budgets, other than what insanely popular Ron Malone saysthat "There needs to be a re-emphasis on the value of the educator." Where's the responsibility in that for our children's education, seeing nothing of VALUE in our teachers except
more, more, more dollar signs?
Who Do You Trust

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And your point is wrote:
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"Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan
"We are trying to get unemployment to go up, and I think we're going to succeed." - Ronald Reagan
"What does an actor know about politics?" - Ronald Reagan
And your point is...?
What does a community organizer from Chicago know about wealth except:

I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody.
-Barack Obama- Remark at a campaign stop in Ohio,
October 13, 2008

For Sure, he has succeeded in Springboro. No new money is needed for the SEA for several years!
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Stay Focused wrote:
Stay Alert Voters! The true story of the next day is that David Bowman and For SURE activists are the real ones Playing Dominos with Springboro Schools. The SURE group is teamed with the SEA and Ron Malone to dismantle the Children's First Budget success. Just watching at the park today will reveal the status quo re-run of the re-instate Ron Malone hostile takeover as staged by Lisa Babb and Ron's Kids during March 2012; Many of our Boro Alumni have been running all over town soliciting help with the Vote for Revenge campaign
of Ron Malone and the Springboro Education Association to gain control of the board's budget and put the money back into the SEA treasure chest where insanely popular Ron Malone thinks it should be. Don't be deceived by the politics of personal destruction, distortion, and discredit of our unprecedented success in Springbor Schools. The OEA members/union activists are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
There is NO reasoning with the Springobro Education Association members, the SURE group, nor the Neighbors for Springboro Schools. They are angry, hostile, mean-spirited, bitter, and totally without gratitude and appreciation of the simple joys of home, family, faith, and love; and care only for the collective forced investment of other's labor, which the SEA feels their dollar "VALUE" is greater than all.
As we have seen recently when the contract settlement gave the SEA all they said they wanted from taxpayers; still they greedily protested "give us more; we don't want increased pay; we just want it all and we demand the board to PAY it all to the SEA, because Ron Malone says so..."There needs to be a re-emphasis on the VALUE of the educator."
"Running around town"! How quickly you forget Kelly Kohls call out to the Warren County Tea Party for their attendance at a school board meeting. There were many there who were NOT even from our community & who were not eligible to vote in Springboro. You reap what you sow!
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"Running around town"! How quickly you forget Kelly Kohls call out to the Warren County Tea Party for their attendance at a school board meeting. There were many there who were NOT even from our community & who were not eligible to vote in Springboro. You reap what you sow!
I must have missed that communication.

I do know about the inordinate number of union people from other districts who showed up to watch the show when negotiations were ongoing. When I asked them why they wanted to waste their time here with this, they replied " to show support."

Warm bodies are warm bodies I suppose.

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"Running around town"! How quickly you forget Kelly Kohls call out to the Warren County Tea Party for their attendance at a school board meeting. There were many there who were NOT even from our community & who were not eligible to vote in Springboro. You reap what you sow!
you statement is incorrect
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Ask Ron Malone wrote:
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Question: Dr. Malone, What do you think of the school board's direction?
Answer: The major concern I have with decisions being made out there is that the major emphasis seems to be on the physical part of education.
Comments from Springboro Parents: With which part of education do you have a major concern, Dr. Malone? Would it be one of these
NOW MET NEEDS that are IN the current budget through 2017:
-$1.1 million for an 11 additonal new buses (bought 10 last year)
-$1.5 million in computers, wifi, backbone, which equals 350 laptops and 1,000 computers
-$3.7 million in capital improvements
-2.4 million in test books and new curriculum and text book adoptions
$8.7 million in total in the forecast through 2017!
Is the Illusion of Excellence Harmful?

Districts love to point to their fine report card rating as evidence of high performance. Real estate agents love to tout those excellent ratings as proof that a home in the community is a good value. But at some point, Ohioans may want to take a serious look at what is really happening in their school districts. Parents and taxpayers need to know that “excellent” may not be as advertised. It is a disservice to the general public, to parents and especially to children when we pretend that more and more districts are doing a stellar job, when they are not. The stakes are much higher than they are for 1st grade soccer players, who are all superstars. Policymakers must acknowledge that there are serious flaws in an evaluation system that says that the majority of districts are doing excellent work, when all of the data comparing Ohio students nationally and internationally paint a very different picture.

A major disconnect exists when Ohio’s standards suggest that 51.7% of 8th graders are performing at an accelerated or advanced level in reading and the national data suggest that only a small fraction of these 8th graders are anywhere near an advanced level.
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Find out just what the people will submit to and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them.
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"Running around town"! How quickly you forget Kelly Kohls call out to the Warren County Tea Party for their attendance at a school board meeting. There were many there who were NOT even from our community & who were not eligible to vote in Springboro. You reap what you sow!
David Bowman and the SURE group of trouble makers in our school board meetings grandstanding in front of TV news reporters need to remember that their fight against board president, Kelly Kohls, is over, and Kelly Kohls and all Springboro familes and school employees are the victors!

Indeed we all reap what we sow -- in November 2009 and November 2011, the majority of voters in the school district went to the polls and "sowed seeds of trust in our reform-minded school board representatives candidates" ...and now ALL school employees, students, and school district taxpaying homeowners have reaped an unprecedented harvest of good will and good financial management under the leadership of our school board members Kelly Kohls, Jim Rigano, David Petroni, Wendy Kull, and Don Miller! Thank You!
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What is missing from this list of "accomplishments" is the "rest of the story". I don't have the facts at hand (admonish me for not doing my homework) but my belief is that we now have fewer teachers, a narrower AP offering (which was already narrower than most good high schools), larger class sizes amongst other issues. Yes, some good things have been done. However, I believe we have missed the opportunity to take the district to even a higher level of accomplishment in terms of preparing our kids for college or a trade. My concern is that the BOE is managing to the minimum required by law and not providing the higher level of education expected by the most parents of our community.
Most parents of our community would ask Mr. Malone, who has been a SHS principal for the PAST thirteen years, WHY he "whiled away" his opportunity to take the district to even a higher level of accomplishment in terms of preparing our kids for college or a trade? Why would Mr. Malone encourage a high school student to interrupt her OGT class and e-mail the Board of Education in protest of school board authority? Why would Mr. Malone bring his employment crisis, of whether or not to accept a great promotion to district office, to the attention of a young student who was
taking her OGT?
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Mr. Malone, during the past thirteen years of your employment as SHS principal, isn't it true that you have focused more on being a "PAL" than on the strong principles of being a "Professional Educator?"
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"Running around town"! How quickly you forget Kelly Kohls call out to the Warren County Tea Party for their attendance at a school board meeting. There were many there who were NOT even from our community & who were not eligible to vote in Springboro. You reap what you sow!
Did You Know that a fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject?

The time has now come to forget all the personal,religious,and political persecution "empowerment" of the Springboro Education Association's fanatical attacks on (Springboro parent and BOE elected official) Kelly Kohls, that have occurred in front of the TV cameras during pre-arranged bully attacks of the SEA played out before the community during our public school board business meetings?

For SURE, some protest that Mrs. Kohls "brought it on herself" but exactly what does that mean to the voters who educated themselves to her reasons for running for election in 2009; and then went to the polls to cast the highest number of votes in her favor?
Some would protest that the hostile takeover of the union activists "brought it on the reform-minded Mrs. Kohls"...and
with such mean-spirited, non-professional bullying, that even their SEA disguise of being "professional educators" was clearly seen through.

Mrs. Kohls said from the beginning of her service to our schools and community that her end game was not "just to get re-elected" but that she would ask the tough questions in the best interest of our children's education, that had never been addressed by previous board members. And that's just the kind of leader that is always a winner, no matter which avenue of public service to others is pursued. Now, does Mrs. Kohls have enemies? Yes, an entire Union army of hostility attacking her character and good service with an on-going destructive war of words and an unlimited dollar VALUE in campaign funding! Now you might think that this is a bad thing for Mrs. Kohls; but to those of us who believed in Kelly's principles of leadership from the beginning (and still do believe) this is a good thing. And Why is that? Simply put, it means that Kelly Kohls has stood up for something good in her service as board representative! Our schools and community have been made stronger, because Kelly was strong enough to stand for real Principles of good leadership.
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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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I do know about the inordinate number of union people from other districts who showed up to watch the show when negotiations were ongoing. When I asked them why they wanted to waste their time here with this, they replied " to show support."
Warm bodies are warm bodies I suppose.
Before one particular board meeting during negotiations I remember overhearing an outsider tell a person sitting near him... "whether or not I come back (to Boro BOE meetings) depends on what type of production we're able to get tonight."

Maybe it's time to consider designating a seating section specifically for non-district attendees.
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Ask Ron Malone wrote:
Mr. Malone, during the past thirteen years of your employment as SHS principal, isn't it true that you have focused more on being a "PAL" than on the strong principles of being a "Professional Educator?"
lol! How true! Malone's tenure as SHS princiPAL was sure all about being the students best PAL! Not to mention that Malone and former business mgr George Long absolutely were two bad mamba jambas with dem bus traffic flags.
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Got Kindness wrote:
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ooops! somebody forgot Principal Ron's Principles of the Kindness Project! Not to worry -- you are forgiven!'Love Ya!
Cowardly bigots such as yourself like to go out of their way to "forgive" those who they oppose, never shifting a moment's thought in their myopic minds to the distinct possibility that it's they themselves who are committing sins against their neighbors. At the end of the day when the dust is settled, the only ones left to have pity for are the bigots.
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Cowardly bigots such as yourself like to go out of their way to "forgive" those who they oppose, never shifting a moment's thought in their myopic minds to the distinct possibility that it's they themselves who are committing sins against their neighbors. At the end of the day when the dust is settled, the only ones left to have pity for are the bigots.
Give it a rest on the trash talk! Talk is the only thing "Cheap" in wealthy and affluent zip code 40566 -- And on this Topix blog, you get what you pay for! If you are not a satisfied customer of Topix trash talk, then take your higher-minded slander elsewhere, such as "for S-U-R-E" in the direction of the Springboro Board of Education public school board meetings!
-btw, don't forget to pre-arrange to be sure you get your three minutes of trash talk fame in front of the TV cameras!
Love what you're doing "just for the kids!"
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Doug Wiedeman wrote:
In The Direction of Out
POSTED ON AUGUST 5, 2013 //
By David Bowman
"If you believe that the past year has been a great one for our schools, a year that saw the reputation of our schools strengthen, a year that brightened the future of our children, a year that made you proud to say you are from Springboro, than by all means vote to continue on in this direction. If you believe that divisive politics, guns in classrooms, charter schools, creationism, attorney fees, bad media coverage, poor employee relations, and diminishing academic options are great for our children, will increase our property values, and will make our town a place people will increasingly want to call home, vote to continue in this direction."
Ask Mr. Malone who is responsible for that one, or better yet his peers at the Warren County Educational Services Center who audited his program of studies.
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From the 2012 report by the Warren County Educational Service Center.
Mr. Malone had been reviewed numerous times previously and made aware of his program of studies shortcomings.
Why did Mr. Malone choose not to pursue the direction and recommendations provided for the benefit of the children?
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bxs0_xA64y_HS ...
"SHS still offers general level classes (Algebra 1A and !B, physical science, US HIstory, and World History) Thus, not all students experience a college preparatory curriculum. Documents provided to the TAV Team indicate that contrary to the High Schools That Work (HSTW) philosophy, SHS believes that offering low level courses is in the best interest of students. THIS BELIEF, however, WAS NOT SUBSTANTIATED BY RESEARCH OR DATA."
Dumbing down the curriculum is apparently not in the best interest of the student.
Nothing substantiates this belief in either research or data.
Yet, that was the path Mr. Malone chose for your children.
These are not my conclusions, but the conclusions of professional educators hired by the school district to audit our program of studies before this board ever came to be.
Based on the large number of parents that have acknowledged knowing about the chosen path of Mr. Malone in past years, have you ever questioned WHY these parents remained silent?
The recent survey of kid's choice of principal characteristics most highly favored revealed proof that Mr. Malone was insanely popular because he did not hold teachers accountability for student's academic success. Of what value is that to the professional educator's responsibility to our students?
Yet, Mr. Malone expounds largely on his gaining control of the board so that he can re-emphasis the dollar value of the educator?

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springboros zip is 45066 and for the kids how about looking forward and not back to donald duck era

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