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Cincinnati, OH

#26794 Aug 23, 2013
In great appreciaiton of our Springboro Schools Board of Education representatives for all that you do for our school community, Springboro families, and community of taxpaying homeowners!
Children's First Budget Works on the right side for Everyone!
serious deja vu

Cleveland, OH

#26795 Aug 24, 2013
yes man wrote:
On the face of Todd Petrey exists two mouths, each of which speaks and repeats the agenda of the person directly in front of it.
I agree.

Hey...Wait!....That's funny!.... I think I've seen this posted somewhere before.
Oh yeah! I have! It's because it was I that originally posted it!

It's good to know Petrey's ongoing masquerade isn't being lost on others in this community.
Did You Know

Cincinnati, OH

#26796 Aug 24, 2013
Pinhead alert wrote:
<quoted text>
Mr. Beck, wonderful that he did het help from affirmative action:
"Beck briefly attempted to begin his higher education as an Ivy League student at Yale University by enrolling within a special affirmative action program for non-traditional students. Beck enrolled for only one course in "Early Christology" before quitting his studies at Yale."
Where's all the people who call out the hypocrites?
Did you know that Mr. Beck is of the Morman religion;
and that the Mormon religion has it's own bible, which is inspired by their leader?

The Holy Bible is the only book of life that is inspired by the One True God, Our Heavenly Father.

The Holy Bible teaches God' Laws for all man-kind.

The United States Constitution teaches man-made laws.

Our government schools are building a curriculum focused on the success of each student well beyond high school graduation. As our government schools implement the Common Core Curriculum, we are striving to support our teachers and staff with the technology, curriculum, materials and professional development they need for innovative instruction.

Our homes and churches are building a value system, based on individual family beliefs, as our foundation for teaching our family religious befliefs to our own children, for eternity.
Ingenuity

Cincinnati, OH

#26797 Aug 24, 2013
"Never tell people how to do things. Tell them what to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity." -General George S. Patton
Big Deal For All

Cincinnati, OH

#26798 Aug 24, 2013
rebuttal wrote:
<quoted text>
1. I'll make you a deal. No "God" in science classed so long as liberal educators agree to remove their agenda of man-made global warming from science classes.
2. Divisive? Hardly. A divisive majority wouldn't have accomplished much at all, especially the following:
$1.1 million for an 11 additional new buses bought 10 last year.
$1.5 million in computers, wifi, backbone, which = 350 laptops and 1,000 computers
$3.7 million in capital improvements
$2.4 million in text books and new curriculum and text book adoptions
$8.7 million in total in the forecast through 2017.
3. Remenber the political spectrum runs in BOTH directions. Both Malone and Stuckey are professed union liberals who are capable of doing a lot of damage via taking needed resources away from our children and putting into the union's collective pocket.
4. Wow where in the land of hypocrisy do I start? Anderson, Colston and Thomsen used their board seats for their own business and professional self interests.
5. OK I'll give you this one.
6. The primary responsibility of boards of education is to manage to BUSINESS AFFAIRS of school districts. Our country has largely been built around excellent teachers. But frankly an educators place is not in the board room. It is in the classroom.
7. Principles matter! You bet they do! This coming Monday when high school students meet their new principal for the 1st time, they'll see she has a higher standard of principles than her predecessor!
National news? Liberal Huffington Post doesn't count as national news!
"We are all full of weakness and errors; let us mutually pardon each other our follies; it is the first law of nature."
(Voltaire)

'l
leave it in the church

Cleveland, OH

#26799 Aug 24, 2013
Did You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Did you know that Mr. Beck is of the Morman religion;
and that the Mormon religion has it's own bible, which is inspired by their leader?
The Holy Bible is the only book of life that is inspired by the One True God, Our Heavenly Father.
The Holy Bible teaches God' Laws for all man-kind.
What an inbelievable bigot you are. You do realize America's public schools teach students who are not only Christian but also Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist among numerous others. Obviously you're much too high and mighty to take into consideration the almost twelve percent of America that is either agnostic or has made conscious decisions that God doesn't exist. I dare you to read your bigoted post out loud at next week's board meeting.
New era Same story

Cleveland, OH

#26800 Aug 24, 2013
Big Deal For All wrote:
<quoted text>
"We are all full of weakness and errors; let us mutually pardon each other our follies; it is the first law of nature."
(Voltaire)
'l
"Of all religions, the Christian of course inspire the most tolerance, but until now Christians have been the most intolerant of all men."

-Voltaire
Meet the BOE Candidates

Cincinnati, OH

#26801 Aug 24, 2013
Lerxst- wrote:
The bottom line is that the voter is going to have to wade through all the bull and figure out which side they believe. At this point, as far as the Malone/Babb/Stuckey contingent is concerned, all I have heard is they are running and they are "for the children." Well, aren't we all "for the children?" That tells me nothing. Tell me why I should vote for them. What will they do that the current board has not that is in the best interest of the children. I hope the answer is not to simply throw more money at what ever perceived problem exists. We've been there and done that.
As for the current board they have a record. Not perfect but, on balance from where I sit, it looks pretty good compared to when they took the reins. Give me a reason to vote for Malone/Babb/Stuckey, not a reason to vote against the current board.
As you decide I would encourage all of you to not rely on the noisy minority of parents who have resorted to personal attacks on the current board; outright misrepresentation about what the board has/is doing; and worse, are completely clueless about the financial state of the current school system. In the past they told us to pass levy after levy for fear that doom, gloom, chaos and utter panic would set upon us. Well, still waiting for it. They have their side of the story and I respect their desire to do what they think is the right thing. I simply question their motives and their knowledge of the current state of financial affairs and what it takes to do better.
Doing the research to make informed decisions requires work, but also comes with some risk. Look at Doug Weideman's posts. He clearly comes to the table prepared with numbers. What does he get in return? Crackpots who feels the need to publish his address and plane registrations. This tells me some people are not interest in the facts, so there will be no changing their minds whatsoever. The problem with them is they negate the informed persons vote.
If you don't like the current board…fine. At least make an informed decision…not one based on pure emotion. The kids of this community deserve as much.
Springboro Commuity Schools Board ofEducation candidates Dr.Ron Malone, David Stuckey and Charles Anderson have scheduled an organizational campaign meeting Sunday, August 25, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. at Clearcreek Park in Springboro. The purpose of the meeting is to give the public an opportunity to meet the candidates, hear their educational philosophies, and if interested, sign up for various activities associated with the campaign.
bombs away

Dayton, OH

#26802 Aug 24, 2013
Meet the BOE Candidates wrote:
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Springboro Commuity Schools Board ofEducation candidates Dr.Ron Malone, David Stuckey and Charles Anderson have scheduled an organizational campaign meeting Sunday, August 25, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. at Clearcreek Park in Springboro. The purpose of the meeting is to give the public an opportunity to meet the candidates, hear their educational philosophies, and if interested, sign up for various activities associated with the campaign.
what are the coordinates....latitude and longitude
Update

Cincinnati, OH

#26803 Aug 24, 2013
New era Same story wrote:
<quoted text>
"Of all religions, the Christian of course inspire the most tolerance, but until now Christians have been the most intolerant of all men."
-Voltaire
...however, since 1983, in the State of Ohio's Public Schools,
the false gods of unionism have earned the red ribbon salute for being the very most intolerant of any change in their rigid, oppressive rules of religiously collective bargaining rights, which are all wrong for our children's future.

There is nothing that beats a progressive villain better than giving people the freedom of choice. Progressives HATE choice just like the socialist/communist hates capitalism. Choice destroys their order of tyranny!
Ask Ron Malone

Cincinnati, OH

#26804 Aug 24, 2013
Meet the BOE Candidates wrote:
<quoted text>
Springboro Commuity Schools Board ofEducation candidates Dr.Ron Malone, David Stuckey and Charles Anderson have scheduled an organizational campaign meeting Sunday, August 25, 2013 at 3:00 p.m. at Clearcreek Park in Springboro. The purpose of the meeting is to give the public an opportunity to meet the candidates, hear their educational philosophies, and if interested, sign up for various activities associated with the campaign.
Question: Dr. Malone, What do you think of the school board's direction?
Answer: The major concern I have with decisions being made out there is that the major emphasis seems to be on the physical part of education.
Comments from Springboro Parents: With which part of education do you have a major concern, Dr. Malone? Would it be one of these
NOW MET NEEDS that are IN the current budget through 2017:
-$1.1 million for an 11 additonal new buses (bought 10 last year)
-$1.5 million in computers, wifi, backbone, which equals 350 laptops and 1,000 computers
-$3.7 million in capital improvements
-2.4 million in test books and new curriculum and text book adoptions
$8.7 million in total in the forecast through 2017!
Stay Focused

Cincinnati, OH

#26805 Aug 24, 2013
The OEA members/union activists are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
There is NO reasoning with the Springobro Education Association members, the SURE group, nor the Neighbors for Springboro Schools. They are angry, hostile, mean-spirited, bitter, and totally without gratitude and appreciation of the simple joys of home, family, faith, and love; and care only for the collective forced investment of other's labor, which the SEA feels their dollar "VALUE" is greater than all.
As we have seen recently when the contract settlement gave the SEA all they said they wanted from taxpayers; still they greedily protested "give us more; we don't want increased pay; we just want it all and we demand the board to PAY it all to the SEA, because Ron Malone says so..."There needs to be a re-emphasis on the VALUE of the educator."

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Got Kindness

Cincinnati, OH

#26806 Aug 24, 2013
leave it in the church wrote:
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What an inbelievable bigot you are. You do realize America's public schools teach students who are not only Christian but also Muslim, Hindu, and Buddhist among numerous others. Obviously you're much too high and mighty to take into consideration the almost twelve percent of America that is either agnostic or has made conscious decisions that God doesn't exist. I dare you to read your bigoted post out loud at next week's board meeting.
ooops! somebody forgot Principal Ron's Principles of the Kindness Project! Not to worry -- you are forgiven!'Love Ya!

Since: Sep 12

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#26807 Aug 25, 2013
is it not unique that the only country in the world that wont get you arrested for talking about relgion is the is the one that whose posts are degradeing people for their relgion .....BAZEEEGA
TV Land

Cincinnati, OH

#26808 Aug 25, 2013
boroson54 wrote:
is it not unique that the only country in the world that wont get you arrested for talking about relgion is the is the one that whose posts are degradeing people for their relgion .....BAZEEEGA
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it."
-Aristotle-

Can we really be corrupted by hearing something we disagree with?

Yet, that seems to be the policy argued by the educators in the Springboro School Board of Education public meetings.

Springboro families are still talking about the narrow-mindedness of Springboro Education Association officer, Sarah Thornbury, who publicly professed herself as a Christian who believed religion should be kept in the church!
Certified Thank You

Cincinnati, OH

#26809 Aug 25, 2013
Thank You, Lisa Babb!
According to the Board of Elections website, you are no longer listed as a certified school board candidate.

(After leading our high school students in that March 2012 re-instate Ron Malone nasty campaign against Springboro School Board authority, how could you possibly have thought that you were a credible 2013 school board candidate?)

Happy days are here again as we all head to the November polls to do the right thing for our children's future! Children's first budget works in the best interest of Springboro Education Association school employees, and our Springboro community of taxpaying homeowners!
The Next Day

Cincinnati, OH

#26810 Aug 25, 2013
Ask Ron Malone wrote:
<quoted text>
Question: Dr. Malone, What do you think of the school board's direction?
Answer: The major concern I have with decisions being made out there is that the major emphasis seems to be on the physical part of education.
Comments from Springboro Parents: With which part of education do you have a major concern, Dr. Malone? Would it be one of these
NOW MET NEEDS that are IN the current budget through 2017:
-$1.1 million for an 11 additonal new buses (bought 10 last year)
-$1.5 million in computers, wifi, backbone, which equals 350 laptops and 1,000 computers
-$3.7 million in capital improvements
-2.4 million in test books and new curriculum and text book adoptions
$8.7 million in total in the forecast through 2017!
What is missing from this list of "accomplishments" is the "rest of the story". I don't have the facts at hand (admonish me for not doing my homework) but my belief is that we now have fewer teachers, a narrower AP offering (which was already narrower than most good high schools), larger class sizes amongst other issues. Yes, some good things have been done. However, I believe we have missed the opportunity to take the district to even a higher level of accomplishment in terms of preparing our kids for college or a trade. My concern is that the BOE is managing to the minimum required by law and not providing the higher level of education expected by the most parents of our community.
Stay Focused

Cincinnati, OH

#26811 Aug 25, 2013
Stay Alert Voters! The true story of the next day is that David Bowman and For SURE activists are the real ones Playing Dominos with Springboro Schools. The SURE group is teamed with the SEA and Ron Malone to dismantle the Children's First Budget success. Just watching at the park today will reveal the status quo re-run of the re-instate Ron Malone hostile takeover as staged by Lisa Babb and Ron's Kids during March 2012; Many of our Boro Alumni have been running all over town soliciting help with the Vote for Revenge campaign
of Ron Malone and the Springboro Education Association to gain control of the board's budget and put the money back into the SEA treasure chest where insanely popular Ron Malone thinks it should be. Don't be deceived by the politics of personal destruction, distortion, and discredit of our unprecedented success in Springbor Schools. The OEA members/union activists are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the union’s progressive agenda.
There is NO reasoning with the Springobro Education Association members, the SURE group, nor the Neighbors for Springboro Schools. They are angry, hostile, mean-spirited, bitter, and totally without gratitude and appreciation of the simple joys of home, family, faith, and love; and care only for the collective forced investment of other's labor, which the SEA feels their dollar "VALUE" is greater than all.
As we have seen recently when the contract settlement gave the SEA all they said they wanted from taxpayers; still they greedily protested "give us more; we don't want increased pay; we just want it all and we demand the board to PAY it all to the SEA, because Ron Malone says so..."There needs to be a re-emphasis on the VALUE of the educator."
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#26812 Aug 25, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
What is missing from this list of "accomplishments" is the "rest of the story". I don't have the facts at hand (admonish me for not doing my homework) but my belief is that we now have fewer teachers, a narrower AP offering (which was already narrower than most good high schools), larger class sizes amongst other issues. Yes, some good things have been done. However, I believe we have missed the opportunity to take the district to even a higher level of accomplishment in terms of preparing our kids for college or a trade. My concern is that the BOE is managing to the minimum required by law and not providing the higher level of education expected by the most parents of our community.
We now have more teachers, not fewer

They did delete an A/P History class with single digit enrollment

Mr. Malone had 13 years to expand A/P classes, he failed to do so even after being admonished and reminded numerous times an High Schools That Work audits performed by the Warren County Educational Services Center.

Some classes have more interest, some have less. Most of the "fun" and easy electives have large demand, what a shock. Others are ridiculously small and should be cut from the offerings all together with their freed up resources devoted to areas of greater need.

The first thing one must do to ensure continuity is take care of its financial house, repair its long neglected infrastructure, make necessary investments in equipment, textbooks, and technology to carry out our mission, and ensure the safety of our students.

All of this was done without having to confront the community with the prospect of another contentious levy campaign. In fact this renewal levy is for a smaller amount because it was discovered we did not require all that extra money.

The next battle with the new administration firmly entrenched, new leadership throughout the district that is devoted to actual student achievement rather than paying homage to the hollow state minimums that had preceded them, and a school funding mechanism that for once is solid enough to trust.
The First Day

Cincinnati, OH

#26813 Aug 25, 2013
The Next Day wrote:
<quoted text>
What is missing from this list of "accomplishments" is the "rest of the story". I don't have the facts at hand (admonish me for not doing my homework) but my belief is that we now have fewer teachers, a narrower AP offering (which was already narrower than most good high schools), larger class sizes amongst other issues. Yes, some good things have been done. However, I believe we have missed the opportunity to take the district to even a higher level of accomplishment in terms of preparing our kids for college or a trade. My concern is that the BOE is managing to the minimum required by law and not providing the higher level of education expected by the most parents of our community.
Admonishment of Shame On You for bloviating on this blog without taking the time to do your homework and learn the facts about exciting things happening in our schools and community!

In case you missed the opportunity to read our school Superintendent's warm and wonderful "Welcome Back" to our students and their classroom teachers in the recent issue of Star Press, let's spend a minute or so reviewing some great expectations of our New school year!

"It is an exciting time to be in our schools! We are beginning the 2013-2014 school year with NEW tools in place for teaching and learning. Our efficiency plans are allowing the district to turn around savings as investments back into our classrooms. Some of the many improvements our students will see this year are:

-NEW curriculum that differentiates instruction encourages and aligns with the Common Core Curriculum, including an exciting technology-rich math and language arts curriculum pilot project in grades six through eight.

-INCREASED reading intervention and gifted intervention in our elementary grades.

-More than $1.1 million upgrade to technology including wireless access and replacing more than 1,100 of the district's aging computers.(W-0-W!-- how exciting is that for SURE parents?)

-Our preschool with district staff and resources to encourage early critical thinking skills while building a continuous curriculum from pre-K through 12th grade.

-These investments--as well as needed buses, building maintenance and more--are MET in the current budget. Our central mission is to accelerate student achievement while maintaining a balanced budget.

-The way it was is not who we are today or who we should be tomorrow. We are MORE than failed levies! We are MORE than hyperbolical headlines! We are NOT defined by yesterday!

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