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Circle of Greed

Cincinnati, OH

#26187 Jul 30, 2013
US history wrote:
A friend told me required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on USHistory by noted socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Meinert Kampf also on this reading list for this summer's enjoyment?
Is this the "platform" of common decency that Belanger, Malone,Stuckey,Babb think needs to be restored to the elected majority of the Springboro Board of Education? In what way does this narrow-minded tunnel vision of the Springboro Schools Social Studies Department reflect the diversity of the entire community of taxpaying homeowners who vote in this school district. The Springboro Schools Board of Education must serve both the school community and the community as a whole, in the best interest of ALL the people; NOT just the "collective best interest of the SEA people who are employed by ALL the people.
Our school board president, Kelly Kohls, has done an excellent job in bringing the BOE unanimous vote of contract with increased pay for the SEA and slight reduction in renewal taxes for Springboro families to pay! It's a win-win for all. So why do we have our SEA union employees huffing and puffing hostility and greed trying to blow our children's excellent school house down? Where's the value to the Taxpayer to this type of Non-professional irresponsible education?
encore

Cleveland, OH

#26190 Jul 30, 2013
The Bottom Line wrote:
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Bad Babb for Boro! How low can she go?... H E double hockey sticks hath NO fury like a Lisa Babb scorned at the polls!
Some vote for me, more vote 'gainst me
I'll run anyway
If you don't like thoughtless spending
Then, just move away

You can beg and you can plead
But I can't see the light......(that's right!)
I need your votes to 'feed the pig'
'though your pocket's tight ('cause we are...)

Mo-ving toward a lib-er-al board
And I am your lib-er-al girl
You know that we are mo-ving toward a lib-er-al board
And I am your lib-er-al girl
Stay Alert Voters

Cincinnati, OH

#26191 Jul 30, 2013
Remember Us wrote:
Remember how the 3 of you that post over and over under a multitude of names? Guess what? We are the young people you made fun of as being children for supporting Dr. Malone. Well hmmm,we are all grown up now and eligible to vote. Here we come, Kelly. All those months ago...who is laughing now?
Here is an example of the "return on our investment" in the young people's future. All of that money we paid in taxes for a quality education that Dr. Malone never delivered for our children's future -- What do Springboro taxpayers get in return for our money-- young people seeking revenge -- rubber stamped by Dr. Malone with: No Class Bully - Product of Springboro Education Association Forced Unionism. Where's the pride in that insanely popular leadership?
Vipers and Hypocrites

Cincinnati, OH

#26192 Jul 31, 2013
Circle of Greed wrote:
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Stay Alert Voters!
It does appear that Jamie Belanger has come out of the darkness inside the union tent, and joined the Malone/Stuckey/Babb United Circle of Greed, trying to gain control of board president, Kelly Kohls, and throw her "fiscal responsibility" good service to our schools and community out of elected office! But where is the Responsible Education for our children's future in this united hostility of SEA activist, Ron Malone, Dave Stuckey, Lisa Babb and Jamie Belanger, against our Children First, Springboro families, and taxpaying homeowners?
Those non-professional public schools educators of Unionism in our Springboro school district classrooms, Ron Malone and Dave Stuckey, now boast proudly to Springboro families that they are "seeking control of Springboro board." It appears that Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey have planted in the minds of our Boro Alumni the seeds of hatred and revenge against Springboro parent, Kelly Kohls (whose children are students in our Springboro Schools, and who serves her school and community as BOE president).
Mrs. Kohls is only one Springboro parent who has been targeted by Mr. Malone and Mr. Stuckey as the SEA vows to take out of elected office all three of our Children's First Budget reform minded board representatives. Disregarding our school district's celebration of success, Mr. Malone still spreads lies and false accusations againsts the "Three" Children's First Budget reform minded board representatives vowing to Vote for Revenge against "fiscal responsibility" and re-instate the SEA BOE majority in November, reversing our success to the greed and lust of the SEA for power and control over our children's minds in the classroom.

In one local newspaper report, this group of alumni suppporting the Malone/Stuckey/Babb/ hatred and vote for revenge against Springboro parent, Kelly Kohls, stated: The board had turned the district into "an international laughingstock...." This is just another lie spread by these SEA maney-acts in their continuing efforts of hostile takeover of our local school government.
As a concerned Springboro taxpaying homeowner, I see it differently. It is this same "group of union activists" who are promoting Vote for Revenge that are the ones running to the newspapers and the TV News cameras, who are really the embarrassment and laughingstock of the non-professional educators who have it all in Springboro, except COMMON DECENCY toward their neighbors. Common Decency is a much needed emphasis in our Springboro Education Association's behavoir, but just like self- respect, it can't be purchased with more of our school tax dollars.
Vipers and Hypocrites

Cincinnati, OH

#26193 Jul 31, 2013
US history wrote:
A friend told me required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on USHistory by noted socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Meinert Kampf also on this reading list for this summer's enjoyment?
lol...what hypocrites are those SURE parents who stand up in public meeting pretending to protect our kids from being "exposed" to the indecency of a symbolic flag (swirled around by another Springboro Parent trying to get his 5 minutes of shock and awe fame in front of the TV cameras); BUT this same parent isn't offended at all by our students being forced to read the "indecency of Howard Zinn." even more, lol and omg....
this SURE parent who pulled in one of the board members to join her in "shaming and blaming" another Springboro parent, who wasn't even present at the meeting, was the same SURE parent who was told by the board president that she would have to CEASE her military mom potty mouth language in front of our children and the TV cameras, or else our board meetings would be thrown off the air! lol... what hypocrites for SURE! Where's the Responsible Education in that united effort to embarrass and make a laughing stock of the indoctrinated influence of the non-professional educators of the Springboro Education Association.
Stand Up For Kids

Cincinnati, OH

#26194 Jul 31, 2013
Without A Doubt wrote:
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Parents and teachers have been complaining about malone's inefficiencies on the job for many years. But malone just had some kind of "cult-like" influence as education god for the union masters. malone was very possessive of the students, encouraged their praise and worship which elevated himself as being overwhelmed at what the students were doing for him; but his focus should have been on what educators can do for the student to elevate higher individual achievement.
It isn't unusual for a professional to become so "beloved" of himself in his job, that he forgets it is not "himself" for whom he works. Now that Malone is happily and successfully retired, change in SHS leadership has come and our school districts new philosophy of benefits to our students first.
Developing Character is Priority in the Education of Our Children!Don't you agree that our Board of Education school board candidates should offer more for our Children First, than just their reputation in the community as "insanely popular?"

"If you will think about what you ought to do for other people, your character will take care of itself. Character is a by-product, and any man who devotes himself to its cultivation in his own case will become a selfish prig." -Woodrow Wilson -
The Scoffer

Cincinnati, OH

#26195 Jul 31, 2013
Great Choice wrote:
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He's the next common sense member of our community to restore decency to our board of education..
Great Choice? get real ....don't you mean the bottom of
the barrel is our only "choice" in this too bad for Boro Babb/Malone/Stuckey/Belanger reversal of our success to
status quo business as usual in the Baker/Dettwiller/Lolli/Long bad old days of unionism rule.
partisan

Springboro, OH

#26196 Jul 31, 2013
The Scoffer wrote:
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Great Choice? get real ....don't you mean the bottom of
the barrel is our only "choice" in this too bad for Boro Babb/Malone/Stuckey/Belanger reversal of our success to
status quo business as usual in the Baker/Dettwiller/Lolli/Long bad old days of unionism rule.
who said crap don't float....look at Malone/babb/stuckey...a lot of it appears to be surfacing lately.
lol in boro

Cincinnati, OH

#26197 Jul 31, 2013
partisan wrote:
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who said crap don't float....look at Malone/babb/stuckey...a lot of it appears to be surfacing lately.
...not sure who said that, but sounds like that educated ex-military potty mouth mom for SURE.
partisan

Springboro, OH

#26198 Jul 31, 2013
lol in boro wrote:
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...not sure who said that, but sounds like that educated ex-military potty mouth mom for SURE.
wrong again, buffalo breathe...like the rest of you school levy Nazis.
Shattered Image

Cincinnati, OH

#26199 Jul 31, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
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You are the professional educators, the ones who know best how to educate, where are your answers?
Where in your contract proposals are anything remotely related to improving the education of our children?
Aside the need for more money, less time at work, and less overseeing of the job being performed, where are the children in your mix?
Where are the answers from the professional educators?
Ms. Cook's response to a continual 80% failure rate in math on the Ohio Achievement Assessment test was to "convince" the union to teach less each day, effectively reducing the number of class periods per year by 25 out of 175.
Ms. Cook performed this miracle by reducing each class by 7 minutes each day and adding more class periods. 7 minutes per day x 175 days per teaching year = 1225 minutes per year
1225 minutes per year / last years 49 minute classes = 25 periods of instruction lost in every class
Genius.
How low can the Springboro Education Association go in "underperforming" their duties for our children's education?
Our has been a high school principal for 13 years, Ron Malone, states in a recent interview ... I'm interested in continuing to work in education...I don't know what the next couple of years look like right now for me.....
Poor Mr. Malone... he loves being insanely popular in the community, but now that he has taken the retirement buyout for his greatest financial gain, he suffers buyer's remorse; and laments identity crisis. It was good to be invested in his work as the education god of unionism at Springboro High School; but this harmful illusion of himself now isn't working for his ego; because he forgot to remember that his status as education god was just
the work of the union masters; who created Mr. Malone to bend to the SEA's will and servitude. Poor Mr. Malone, who doesn't know quite how to introduce himself without a job attached to his name. "We'll see what happens," he says. "I'm not sure the FIT," (as he refers to his work of SEA education god)"is as good now as when I came to Springboro in 2000." The bottom line is ..."There needs to be a re-emphasis on the value of the educator."
But what value does this 41 years of education expertise have to our children's 21st century quality classroom education?
Reject Forced Unionism

Cincinnati, OH

#26200 Jul 31, 2013
Sickening wrote:
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Students went home and told their parents they were made to skip class and go to parts of the HS building and clap for their HS Principal they did not have a choice they were forced. So stopping education to praise a retiree- do they do this for all retirees?
This education system has held up false gods and forced children to praise them.
Maybe this should be the new Controversial Topic. Praising false gods is a sin.
Students were also forced to write letters of appreciation to district employees for appreciation day.
Indoctrination exists inside our schools.
It's ironic the public fuss being made in this school district over teaching the constitution "the founding fathers original intent way." While much has been written in recent years to try to dismiss the fact that America was founded upon the bliblical principles of Judeo-Christianity, all the revisionism in the world cannot change the facts. Anyone who examines the original written, personal correspondence, biographies, and public statements of the individuals who were instrumental in the founding of America will find an abundance of quotations showing the profound extent to which their thinking and lives were influenced by a Christian by a Christian worldview.
That is not to say that all of the Founding Fathers were Christians. Clearly, they were not. But the point is that even those who were not Christians were deeply influenced by the principles of Christianity--a mind-set that helped to shape their political ideals. It is possible to be so distracted with whether Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson ever put their personal faith in Jesus Christ that one misses the fact that the Founders almost all THOUGHT from a biblical perspective, whether they believed or not. Clearly, there was a predominant Christian consensus in colonial America that shaped the Founders' thinking and their writing of the founding documents and laws, resulting in the republic we have today.
The Declaration of Independence identified the source of all authority and rights as "Their Creator," and then accentuated that individual human rights were God-given, not man-made. Thus, there would be no king or established religion to stand in the way of human liberty or dignity --uniquely Judeo-Christian ideas.
truth to power

Cleveland, OH

#26201 Jul 31, 2013
Reject Forced Unionism wrote:
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It's ironic the public fuss being made in this school district over teaching the constitution "the founding fathers original intent way." While much has been written in recent years to try to dismiss the fact that America was founded upon the bliblical principles of Judeo-Christianity, all the revisionism in the world cannot change the facts. Anyone who examines the original written, personal correspondence, biographies, and public statements of the individuals who were instrumental in the founding of America will find an abundance of quotations showing the profound extent to which their thinking and lives were influenced by a Christian by a Christian worldview.
That is not to say that all of the Founding Fathers were Christians. Clearly, they were not. But the point is that even those who were not Christians were deeply influenced by the principles of Christianity--a mind-set that helped to shape their political ideals. It is possible to be so distracted with whether Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson ever put their personal faith in Jesus Christ that one misses the fact that the Founders almost all THOUGHT from a biblical perspective, whether they believed or not. Clearly, there was a predominant Christian consensus in colonial America that shaped the Founders' thinking and their writing of the founding documents and laws, resulting in the republic we have today.
The Declaration of Independence identified the source of all authority and rights as "Their Creator," and then accentuated that individual human rights were God-given, not man-made. Thus, there would be no king or established religion to stand in the way of human liberty or dignity --uniquely Judeo-Christian ideas.
Indeed America's Founding Fathers hotly debated the root question of separation of church and state. In the colonial era, and through the civil war period, it wasn't unusual for such debates to escalate into fistfights and life-threatening duals. A few times fistfights actually broke out on the floor of the U.S. Congress. If nothing else, our children ought to be made aware of our Founding Fathers' level of PASSION in regard to this, and other related issues.
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26202 Aug 1, 2013
truth to power wrote:
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Indeed America's Founding Fathers hotly debated the root question of separation of church and state. In the colonial era, and through the civil war period, it wasn't unusual for such debates to escalate into fistfights and life-threatening duals. A few times fistfights actually broke out on the floor of the U.S. Congress. If nothing else, our children ought to be made aware of our Founding Fathers' level of PASSION in regard to this, and other related issues.
On March 23,1775 when Patrick Henry spoke the now famous phrase, "Give me liberty or give me death!" to arouse the Second Virginia Convention to arms against the tyranny of Great Britain, he noted that "we have done everyting that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming upon us."
During the critical years of 1765-1776, the American colonies had been forced to endure taxation without representation, searches and seizures without probable cause, the confiscation of firearms, and on and one. Though the colonial leaders had tried to remain loyal to the Crown and reconcile their differences, they were finally compelled to break away in revolt.
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26203 Aug 1, 2013
The Declaration of Independence was then written as a proclamation to the world of their reasons for separating from England. But while the Declaration gives a detailed list of legal offenses that England had left unresolved, the Founders saw these as more than isolated wrongs.
Rather, they saw them as a part of a predetermined plan to take away their religious liberties and re-establish the Church ofEngland to rule over their hearts and souls, thus enslaving the colonies. In that light, one understand the power of Patrick Henry's fiery words.
Faced with such propsects, the Declaration stated that the American colonists were set to defend
"the laws of nature and of nature's God" -- words ththe Founders stood. The laws of nature were understood to mean the will of God for man as revealed to man's reasons. However, because man is fallen and his reason does not always comprehend this law, God gave His law in the Bible to make it absolutely clear.
We ought to obey God rather than men.- Acts 5:29
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26204 Aug 1, 2013
Thus, it was the churches that became the primary source that stirred the fires of liberty, telling the colonists that the English government was usurping their God given rights, and the King and Parliament were violating the laws of God. The Founding Fathers were convinced that it was their sacred duty to start a revolution to uphold the law of God against the unjust and oppressive laws of men. And the fight for political liberty was seen as a sacred cause because civil liberty was an inalienable right, according to God's natural law. The nNew England ministers, in particular, were decisive in rallying the popular moral support for the war against England. They pressed their congregations to overthrow King George because they believed that rebellion to tyrants was obedience to God. From many pulpits, ministers recruited troops and strengthened them in battle with partriotic sermons.
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26205 Aug 1, 2013
While the church leaders were well schooled in the fact that the Bible placed great emphasis on due submission to civil authroities (Romans 13), they noted there are also many passages that approve resistance to ungodly authority. For instance, when the apostiles were commanded by the Sanhedrin to cease preaching that Jesus Christ had risen from the dead, Peter boldly asserted: "We ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29)
Therefore, it is no coincidence that one of the watchwords of the American Revolution was "No Kind but King Jesus." For most of the patriots, their faith gave them the courage to stand on God's Word and risk their lives and properties to break the tyranny of an unjust human authority. In their Christian worldview, obedience to God took precedence over country or government, and their primary allegiance was to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26206 Aug 1, 2013
Indicative of this spirit in 1755, the Luteran pastor John Peter Gabriel Muhlenberg preached a sermon on Ecclesiastes 3:1, "To everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven." Concluding the message, he declared, "In the language of the Holy Writ, there is a time for all things. There is a time to preach and a time to fight. And now is the time to fight." He then threw off his clerical robes to reveal the uniform of a Revolutionary Army officer. That Afternoon, at the head of 300 men, he marched off to join GeneralWashington's troops and became Colonel of the 8th Virginia Regiment.
Ministers turned the colonial resistance into a righteous cause and served at every level in the conflict, from military chaplains to members of state legislatures to taking up arms and leading troops into battle. And, ultimately, after two main British armies were captured by the Continental Army at Saratoga in 1777 and Yorktown in 1781, the other words of Patrick Henry to his fellow Virginians proved true: "Three millions of people, armed with the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us."
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26207 Aug 1, 2013
All About Money wrote:
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Education in Springboro Schools is all about money and power and who gets to control both. A school house divided cannot provide wholeness for our children's future.
We have a power struggle going on between our children first board members and Malone's union first members; The decisions made during these employment contract negotiations will support our financial victory for our children's first budget; or reverse our school district's money to the control of Malone's "business as usual" forced unionism/indoctrination for
our children's classroom education.
In 1836, Noah Webster, often called "the Father of American Education" expressed the purpose of schools was meant for the advancement of the Christian faith: "In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed... No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people."

Unfortunately, in time, a philosophical shift took place in America, and the biblical principles for education were slowly eroded and abandoned, with sad and tragic consequences that continue to unfold. John Dewey, known as "The Architect of Modern Education," said, "There is no God, and ther is no soul. Hence, there are no needs for the props of traditional religion." Those props have been knocked away, and the loss of moral standards has opened the door to untold numbers of unwanted teen pregnancies, abortions, drug abuse, alcoholism, violence, and suicide.

If we believe that the Founders were correct in asserting that America would fail if it lost its religious foundations, it is primarily incumbent upon Christian believers to reaffirm and reclaim our Christian educational heritage with the same passion and commitment of the Founders. There are many ways and many levels at which to instigate change, buyt it begins with a willingness to become engaged in the battle.
Springboro Taxpayer

Cincinnati, OH

#26208 Aug 1, 2013
truth to power wrote:
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Indeed America's Founding Fathers hotly debated the root question of separation of church and state. In the colonial era, and through the civil war period, it wasn't unusual for such debates to escalate into fistfights and life-threatening duals. A few times fistfights actually broke out on the floor of the U.S. Congress. If nothing else, our children ought to be made aware of our Founding Fathers' level of PASSION in regard to this, and other related issues.
Our children ought not be required to "bow down" to the false gods of the man-made false religion of Unionism, all under the flag of "Excellent with Distinction" draped across our taxpayer-funded public school buidings in zip code 45066; boasting proudly of knowledge and wealth; and all the while violating the laws of common decency and disrespect for the Dignity of Human Life.
Springboro Schools do not need a "policy change on religious and controversial issues." Springboro Schools needs a policy change
on funding the Springboro Education Association's teachings of our children their "policies of indeceny and disrespect for the Dignity of Human Life."
Why are our Neighbors for Springboro Schools "doing their job of demanding more taxes" to replace the false grass on the football field; but have voiced no concern over the state mandated common core which is implementation of the government's false doctrine of the praise and worship of the education gods of Unionism? ndresponsibility olicy d

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