Our recommendation: Springboro voters should say 'yes' the first time to school levies

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Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#25956 Jul 22, 2013
No Doubt wrote:
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No reason, no reason at all to elect a person to office who will use their influence to stifle the first amendment rights of our neighbors, directing staff not to hire a qualified candidate because their political views differed:
Lawsuit: Teacher wasn't hired because of political feud
Former leader says school board president ordered him not to hire teacher
Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/news/local-news/news-warr...
Ding Dong, Ding Dong

Anyone care to read the depositions from Mr. Lolli, Mr. Long, et. al?

Clearly stated within the confines of those statements, that were sworn under oath, the administrators we could "ill afford to lose" chose to deny Ms. Grigsby a job and then colluded with each other to make it happen.

Ms. Kohls may not have championed Ms. Grigsby, but she certainly had no control over the interview process nor the selection process. Ms. Kohls remained but one vote out of five on the board that ratifies the selections.

The guilty parties by their own admission, Mr. Lolli, Mr. Long, Mr. Renshaw, and Ms. Warner.

Whose name is conspicuously absent from the professional mugging?

Mr. Malone, the principal of the building Ms. Grigsby was attempting to enter.

People above Mr. Malone are involved, people below Mr. Malone are involved.

Where is Mr. Malone with his vaunted experience and educational credentials in the hiring of the best qualified math teacher?
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#25957 Jul 22, 2013
No Doubt wrote:
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No reason, no reason at all to elect a person to a position that is responsible for oversight of millions of dollars of our tax money when they allow corruption, embezzlement, and fraud to occur under their watch:
http://www.wdtn.com/dpp/news/local/warren/spr...
Wow is this a stretch and a blatant attempt to recast history.

As a single member on the board of education your influence is limited to what you can persuade others is important.

One out of five never carries the day.

Until the arrival of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, there was neither the will nor the desire to get to the bottom of the pay to participate scam.

With the Budget and Finance Committee the taxpayers for the first time had the opportunity to delve into the murky waters of athletic funding in this community. What was uncovered through the diligent and persistent efforts of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano was the massive fraud that had been ongoing for nearly two decades.

As part of the formula for deciding how much pay to participate was going to be for each athlete, an accurate accounting of the amount of monies raised by the Boosters to support our athletic programs needed to be derived.

After five months of consistent prodding by the Budget and Finance Committee in pursuing an accounting from the group, and five months of delay and excuses on why they could or would not deliver those numbers, Mr. Harves would not have surrendered the books and himself to the police.

The larger question is where was Mr. Malone during the past 12 years he was associated with the high school as principal. Mr. Malone attended every game or event that he could. Mr. Malone enjoyed good relations with all of the players involved in the programs raising money for our children. Mr. Malone could not help but notice that our concession stands did quite well at football games, and fund raisers like casino night brought in great bundles of cash. How did Mr. Malone not notice the take was light?

Working in the concession stands as a volunteer the first time I noted that the funds were handled in a haphazard manner. No one counted them, they just stuffed them into a brown paper bag and handed them off to a principal and assistant principal. When I queried them the second time they came through about where the money was going, they replied "The Boosters." Who are the Boosters I asked, they replied they did not know any names but that was to whom they gave the money. No money, from my observation, was ever counted or recorded, it was just scooped up and sent off into the night.

For 12 years that he was principal Mr. Malone observed this program and all of its shortcomings.

School Policy 6330 states

E. Advisors, coaches, or sponsors shall be selected at the direction of the Superintendent or designee and their duties shall consist of preparing the annual budget and purpose clause of their activity group; supervising the activities of their group, including preparation of fund raising potentials and maintaining group financial oversight; and such other duties as assigned by the principal or Superintendent.

F. All school sponsored athletic fund raising activities shall have proper approval by the Athletic Director, and Superintendent/Designee.

Revised 3/14/06

Who was the Athletic Director's boss at the High School? The Principal.

Who was charged with supervising the activities of these groups at the High School? The Principal

Who was the man who did not protect the students, the parents, and the taxpayers from massive fraud for during his tenure as principal?

Mr. Malone
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#25958 Jul 22, 2013
No Doubt wrote:
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No reason, no reason at all to elect a person that will allow and encourage their tea party friends to make extremely insensitive, racially charged remarks as they wave a confederate flag in our school board meeting, once again putting Springboro in the headlines and making a mockery of our district:
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...
I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire

That sentiment and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution sum up the fallacy of your position.

The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791, as one of the ten amendments that comprise the Bill of Rights.

That pretty much sums up a local school board meeting.

While you and your ilk may be for censorship of thought for adults, I stand firmly in the camp that allows ideas to rise and fall on their own accord.
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#25959 Jul 22, 2013
No Doubt wrote:
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No reason, no reason at all to elect a person that uses her position as a board of education member to further her interests as a tea party member and to promote her extreme version of politics within our local community and school district:
https://www.au.org/blogs/wall-of-separation/w...
I love your source and its author, a man with an agenda of his own and a vested interest in seeing things that do not exist but support his primary occupational narrative.

Rob Boston

Rob Boston is senior policy analyst at Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Rob, who has worked at Americans United since 1987, also serves as assistant editor of AU's "Church & State" magazine. Rob is the author of three books: "Close Encounters with the Religious Right: Journeys into the Twilight Zone of Religion and Politics" (Prometheus Books, 2000); "The Most Dangerous Man in America? Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition" (Prometheus Books, 1996) and "Why the Religious Right Is Wrong About Separation of Church and State" (Prometheus Books, 1993; second edition, 2003).

As a man who makes his living pandering inflammatory prose to a constituency that provides the funding for his organization that provides him with his living.

People like this man conquer anything, they just keep ginning up the fear factor so the cash keeps rolling.

The disparagement of those who believe that government should be transparent, fiscally responsible, and accountable for its actions is difficult to understand. Which part of that formula do you disagree with partially or in total.

Transparency of action allowed the entire community to weigh in on whether or not we should rent our public facilities to an organization wishing to teach a class on the United States Constitution.

Transparency in government allowed the public to weigh in on whether or not we should investigate the possibility of a charter school in this district.(This was just an investigation of the idea's pros and cons mind you, the union and its supporters vehemently opposed any such search for answers)

Fiscal Responsibility means we are not slaves to wave after wave of levy campaigns demanding more money, more money, ever more money.

Fiscal Responsibility translates to we learn to live within our means rather than our wants and desires.

Accountability allows the community that pays this bill some semblance of control holding public employees and elected officials responsible for the good and the bad.

Accountability is bringing the days of "Oh well, that just the way it is" to a close, as people and officials are held responsible for their actions.

What do you find so offensive about those concepts?
Uno Voter

Piqua, OH

#25960 Jul 22, 2013
Let's get Straight to the Point (Money and Power) and Set The Record Straight in the best interest of the education business in Springboro!

...In the direction of Unity for our children's future education:

Springboro School Board Approves Agreement with Teachers and Unprecedented 15 Percent Rollback on November Renewal!

"This is outstanding news for our employees, taxpayers and students and their families," said Kohls. We have an agreement we can afford and that will make our school district more competitive. We will be able to retain our best teachers and attract new top-notch teacher staff."

That's Great News -- Everybody Wins! Everybody in our school district leadership and our taxpaying community of homeowners has been given a Fair Deal!

So Why Are Our "Neighbors For Springboro Schools" not celebrating our Success that has been achieved by our BOE/SEA "working
together" for a fair employment contract, with pay increases for our teachers? Why are our "Neighbors For Springboro Schools" protesting throughout our community that our superintendent is now the "Victim Project" and they must now "berate and bully-down" our BOE elected officials, because the "superintendent" did not get it all his way! How petty and disruptive are those false accusations of the NFSS against our school district leadership and professional educators? Listen up, good neighbors, I want my one voice and my one vote to be heard loud and clear ....in the direction of Unity... I have had opportunity during the past year to observe our school superintendent at work during committee meetings, parents meetings, and public school board business meeting and work sessions; and I have grown to admire and appreciate our superintendent's love for his work, by leading our school community of professional educators and our community of taxpaying homeowners, to work together in mutual respect of our differences and in celebration of our individual contributions of value and worth in our schools and community.
I want my voice to be heard by our Neighbors for Springboro Schools, asking that your efforts to pull our school superintendent into your continuing hostile war of words against Springboro taxpayers and our elected school board representatives be stopped. Please step down from your bully pulpit! You are embarrassing our entire community with your mean-spirited grandstanding in front of the TV news cameras.
Brain Drain Alert

Piqua, OH

#25961 Jul 22, 2013
Healthy Choice wrote:
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How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just following my destiny. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? Well there's a principle of nature (principle of nature) That almost every creature knows. Called survival of the fittest (survival of the fittest) And check it this is how it goes. The animal that eats gotta scratch and fight and claw and bite and punch. And the animal that doesn't, well the animal that doesn't winds up someone else's lu-lu-lu-lu-lunch (munch, munch, munch, munch, munch) I'm just sayin'. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just following my destiny. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? There's a principle in business (principle in business) That everybody knows is sound. It says the people with the money (people with the money)[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/how-bad-can-i-be-l... ] Make this ever-loving world go 'round So I'm biggering my company, I'm biggering my factory, I'm biggering my corporate sign. Everybody out there, take care of yours and me? I'll take care. of. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.(shake that bottom line) Let me hear you say 'smogulous smoke'(smogulous smoke) Schloppity schlop (schloppity schlop) Complain all you want, it's never ever, ever, ever gonna stop. Come on how bad can I possibly be? How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just building an economy. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? Just look at me pettin' this puppy. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? A portion of proceeds goes to charity. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? Let's see.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) All the customers are buying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the money's multiplying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the PR people are lying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the lawyers are denying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) Who cares if a few trees are dying?(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) This is all so gratifying. How bad. How bad can this possibly be!?
How low can you go in your solo limbo dance of anger, hostility and greed? Not a chance that you will pull the good people in our schools and community down to your "low" level of open springboro "root rot!" .... not in MY community...!

God Bless America! Let Freedom Ring and Individual Responsibility Rule over our land of free... and home of brave!

"Wouldn't it be better for the human spirit and for the soul of this nation to encourage people to accept more responsibility to care for each other rather care for each other rather than leaving those tasks to paid bureaucrats." - Ronald Reagan

President Reagan never failed to remind us that we strengthen our country by emphasing personal freedom, believing in liberty and responsibility, and letting people prosper, grow, and follow their individual dreams.
Twp resident

Girard, OH

#25962 Jul 22, 2013
No Doubt wrote:
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No reason, no reason at all to elect a person that will allow and encourage their tea party friends to make extremely insensitive, racially charged remarks as they wave a confederate flag in our school board meeting, once again putting Springboro in the headlines and making a mockery of our district:
http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs.dll/arti...
We musn't forget that in addition to a relatively small number of mercenaries from Europe, the death toll for the American Civil War is now estimated to be 750,000 (combined North and South).
The Civil War wasn't just about North Abolitionists vs. South Slave Owners. A major factor that contributed to the South's eventual seccession was "states rights" a.k.a...Southern states having issues with increasing interference from Washington D.C. over affairs they view as "local", especially in regard to European cotton trade.(hmm? does this maybe sound a bit familiar?)

Almost a century and a half after Lincoln's assasination, does racism against blacks still exist in America? Sure it does. On the other hand, we have to be honest with ourselves. Flys on every wall can hear racist comments being uttered against whites every bit as much as those being spoken against blacks, asians or hispanics. Yeah, Sonny Lewis may indeed be a little rough in his mode of delivery, but he's 100% correct in the respect that Americans owe the South the honor of a return of its Civil War legacy. Confederate Civil War soldiers were every bit as American as were Union soldiers. If Civil War soldiers were still alive today they'd be ashamed of two things.

1)They's be ashamed racism still exists.
2)They'd be ashamed Americans in genenal choose to look at the Confederate Flag with disdain.
Set the Record Straight

Piqua, OH

#25963 Jul 22, 2013
All About Money wrote:
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Education in Springboro Schools is all about money and power and who gets to control both. A school house divided cannot provide wholeness for our children's future.
We have a power struggle going on between our children first board members and Malone's union first members; The decisions made during these employment contract negotiations will support our financial victory for our children's first budget; or reverse our school district's money to the control of Malone's "business as usual" forced unionism/indoctrination for
our children's classroom education.
Did You Know? TRANSPARENCY, as used in science, engineering, business, the humanities and in a social context more generally, implies openness, communication, and accountability?

It's True! Transparency is operating in such a way that it is easy for others to see what actions are performed. For example, a cashier making change at a point of sale by segregating a customer's large bills, counting up from the sale amount, and placing the change on the counter in such a way as to invite the customer to verify the amount of change demonstrates transparency.

How fortunate are "we the people" in Springboro to have BOE elected officials, David Petroni and Jim Rigano, educating Springboro of Transparency in our unanimously approved
(by the five-member board) Children's First Budget!

Because of good stewardship and good fortune our school district is in an outstanding financial position (according to the regular reports to the community given by our school Treasurer at school board business meetings)--a position that is so good that our school district is now in a position to rollback 1.5 mills on our renewal levy! And, listen up, good Neighbors for Springboro Schools, to this Great News....worth repeating:

...A position that is so G-O-O-D that our school district is now in a position to rollback 1.5 mills on our Renewal Levy WITHOUT IMPACTING ANY OF OUR CURRENT PROGRAMS OR PLANS!

It's a commitment to Springboro taxpayers that our school district leaders will continue to be G-O-O-D stewards and continue to be the most efficient (and amazingly AWESOME!)effective school district in the state!

Listen Up, good Neighbors for Springboro Schools, and Learn.
The advantages of living in "Affluent and Wealthy Zip Code 45066" is that come November School Renewal Levy time in November, the tables are turned on the SEA; and the SEA now has the blessing for themselves of "spreading their wealth" among Springboro taxpayers,
who first earned the wealth that so generously financially supports the SEA! How A-W-E-S-O-M-E is That!
NFET

Girard, OH

#25964 Jul 22, 2013
Straight to the Point wrote:
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I'm just not seeing a thing that needs to be questioned, but lots to be celebrated. So in my efforts to preserve Unity with the NFSS, I'll just say to the Board "Thanks for the great pay increases for teachers and the tax reduction on the levy!
What "unity" with NFSS might you be referring to? After this 1.3 million rollback, there will be an approximately 7 million surplus over the next 5 years. The word "compromise" doesn't exist in NFSS- language! All they want is more...more...more of our money so if the BOE is taken over in January, Babbsey and Phoney Maloney or whoever will be more than happy to very quickly figure out new and creative ways to waste our money. To learn how to efficiently do this all they'd have to do is dust off BOE minutes from the Baker era.

The acronym NFSS more accurately ought to be N.F.E.T.
Neighbors For Entitled Teachers.
Time For Nursery Rhyme

Piqua, OH

#25965 Jul 22, 2013
Healthy Choice wrote:
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How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just following my destiny. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? Well there's a principle of nature (principle of nature) That almost every creature knows. Called survival of the fittest (survival of the fittest) And check it this is how it goes. The animal that eats gotta scratch and fight and claw and bite and punch. And the animal that doesn't, well the animal that doesn't winds up someone else's lu-lu-lu-lu-lunch (munch, munch, munch, munch, munch) I'm just sayin'. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just following my destiny. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just doing what comes naturally How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? There's a principle in business (principle in business) That everybody knows is sound. It says the people with the money (people with the money)[ From: http://www.metrolyrics.com/how-bad-can-i-be-l... ] Make this ever-loving world go 'round So I'm biggering my company, I'm biggering my factory, I'm biggering my corporate sign. Everybody out there, take care of yours and me? I'll take care. of. Mine, mine, mine, mine, mine.(shake that bottom line) Let me hear you say 'smogulous smoke'(smogulous smoke) Schloppity schlop (schloppity schlop) Complain all you want, it's never ever, ever, ever gonna stop. Come on how bad can I possibly be? How ba-a-a-ad can I be? I'm just building an economy. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? Just look at me pettin' this puppy. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? A portion of proceeds goes to charity. How ba-a-a-ad can I be? How bad can I possibly be? Let's see.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) All the customers are buying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the money's multiplying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the PR people are lying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) And the lawyers are denying.(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) Who cares if a few trees are dying?(How ba-a-a-ad can I be?) This is all so gratifying. How bad. How bad can this possibly be!?
Hey there ba-a-a-ad, ba-a-a-a-ad, ba-a-a-a-ad, Sheep ...

you are full of bull, for S-U-R-E!
sheep

Springboro, OH

#25966 Jul 22, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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Wow is this a stretch and a blatant attempt to recast history.
As a single member on the board of education your influence is limited to what you can persuade others is important.
One out of five never carries the day.
Until the arrival of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano, there was neither the will nor the desire to get to the bottom of the pay to participate scam.
With the Budget and Finance Committee the taxpayers for the first time had the opportunity to delve into the murky waters of athletic funding in this community. What was uncovered through the diligent and persistent efforts of Mr. Petroni and Mr. Rigano was the massive fraud that had been ongoing for nearly two decades.
As part of the formula for deciding how much pay to participate was going to be for each athlete, an accurate accounting of the amount of monies raised by the Boosters to support our athletic programs needed to be derived.
After five months of consistent prodding by the Budget and Finance Committee in pursuing an accounting from the group, and five months of delay and excuses on why they could or would not deliver those numbers, Mr. Harves would not have surrendered the books and himself to the police.
The larger question is where was Mr. Malone during the past 12 years he was associated with the high school as principal. Mr. Malone attended every game or event that he could. Mr. Malone enjoyed good relations with all of the players involved in the programs raising money for our children. Mr. Malone could not help but notice that our concession stands did quite well at football games, and fund raisers like casino night brought in great bundles of cash. How did Mr. Malone not notice the take was light?
Working in the concession stands as a volunteer the first time I noted that the funds were handled in a haphazard manner. No one counted them, they just stuffed them into a brown paper bag and handed them off to a principal and assistant principal. When I queried them the second time they came through about where the money was going, they replied "The Boosters." Who are the Boosters I asked, they replied they did not know any names but that was to whom they gave the money. No money, from my observation, was ever counted or recorded, it was just scooped up and sent off into the night.
For 12 years that he was principal Mr. Malone observed this program and all of its shortcomings.
School Policy 6330 states
E. Advisors, coaches, or sponsors shall be selected at the direction of the Superintendent or designee and their duties shall consist of preparing the annual budget and purpose clause of their activity group; supervising the activities of their group, including preparation of fund raising potentials and maintaining group financial oversight; and such other duties as assigned by the principal or Superintendent.
F. All school sponsored athletic fund raising activities shall have proper approval by the Athletic Director, and Superintendent/Designee.
Revised 3/14/06
Who was the Athletic Director's boss at the High School? The Principal.
Who was charged with supervising the activities of these groups at the High School? The Principal
Who was the man who did not protect the students, the parents, and the taxpayers from massive fraud for during his tenure as principal?
Mr. Malone
You noticed all of these problems...why didn't you do more to stop it? And funny - I thought you didn't like to deflect, demean, etc.? You preach to everyone else about that. Now, you are going after Dr. Malone because he is running for BOE. Interesting....
Grapevine Schooling

Piqua, OH

#25967 Jul 22, 2013
And who else but Mr. Malone, our has been a SHS principal, and now "insanely popular in the community" prospective school board candidate, actually indoctrinated our 2012 high school students to show disrespect to school board authority, as Mr. Malone used our students to boost his own ego and "pitted our SEA members/student union activists against our BOE members" in a very childish popularity contest, to interrogiate Board Authority in public meeting and PROVE that Mr. Malone was the most "beloved" of all; without whom our high school students' education could not thrive! Mr. Malone's cult-like influence of "all praise and worship of me, thou beloved of students" caused one high school student to report to the DDN that she had to interrupt her working on her OGT, so that she could write an e-mail to the three board members who were trying to take her beloved principal from the hollowed halls of SHS.
Now this very group of Boro Alumni are rallying all over town that these same three board members just "don't give them and their teachers no respect" and so they write to the DDN their grievances against the board, and continue grandstanding their bully maney-acts in front of the TV cameras using the excuse of pre-arranged participation at public board meetings, to continue this political oppression of Unionism Rule over the elected board representatives authority to rule. Mr. Malone has proven by example that he has not inspired and motivated "Princiapl Ron's Kids" to Respect Authority -- which is the firm foundation on which all good citizenship is built.
Those amongst us having influence over our insanely popular community education god should pray that our has been a high school principal feels "led" to a volunteer ministry in his chosen house of praise and worship inside the walls of Springboro Baptist church. Education gods of false religion of Unionism have NO place on our Springboro Board of Education.
Grapevine Schooling

Piqua, OH

#25968 Jul 22, 2013
sheep wrote:
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You noticed all of these problems...why didn't you do more to stop it? And funny - I thought you didn't like to deflect, demean, etc.? You preach to everyone else about that. Now, you are going after Dr. Malone because he is running for BOE. Interesting....
Now We the People Are Going After Dr. Malone because he is
not a good FIT with our school district's reform-minded, new philosophy of Children First Budgeting for our children's
educational needs in the 21st century.
Mr. Malone has publicly recognized this, but his ego just won't get out of the way and allow him to give up all this priaise and worship of the SEA maney-acts, who are trying to get control of the board's power; so that the Union controls our school tax dollars to spend the union first way.
There's just no way that Malone-Stuckey-Babb on the ballot are going to add up to yes on the school renewal levy at the polls.
Malone's Proficiency in Math scores can be over-rated inside the union tent; but not a chance in the real world of ten thousand; many who have no high regard for the leadership of our "insanely popular" educatin god of unonism.
Malone again naturally

Girard, OH

#25969 Jul 22, 2013
To think that only yesterday
'Boro blue & white, and "gay"
Kids not looking forward to the retirement of
Dr. Malone 'cause he was overpaid.

Melodrama 'round the town
But reality comes around
Beloved, yes, but do the students know of
Parents taxed to little pieces?

Now Malone's going to run for BOE
Oh, Heaven, help us!
If he really cares for our kids
Why won't he really retire?

In this NFSS hour of 'need'
We truly are indeed
Malone again, naturally
Doug Wiedeman

Cleveland, OH

#25970 Jul 22, 2013
sheep wrote:
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You noticed all of these problems...why didn't you do more to stop it? And funny - I thought you didn't like to deflect, demean, etc.? You preach to everyone else about that. Now, you are going after Dr. Malone because he is running for BOE. Interesting....
Who else but Mr. Malone was charged with overseeing the fund raising activities in his school?

I do not see what is demeaning about the question, unless you do not expect people to do the job they are being paid to perform.

I do not recall once Mr. Malone coming out in public asking the Boosters to cooperate with the school board and release their records. Mr. Malone certainly had ample platforms and opportunities to do this service for the community. Mr. Malone chose instead to remain quietly on the sideline while his children's athletic funds were being further looted, providing Mr. Harves with valuable time to cover his tracks.

I cannot believe that Mr. Malone had never met Mr. Harves in the 12 years Mr. Malone was principal and the coinciding 12 years that Mr. Harves held the purse strings of the Booster monies. Mr. Harves was in financial charge of an organization which raised millions of dollars for Springboro athletics over Mr. Malone's tenure as principal, it is hard to imagine Mr. Harves and Mr. Malone did not speak during this 12 year period.

This is the man you wish to charge with responsibility of a $45,000,000 school district budget?
No Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25971 Jul 22, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
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I love your source and its author, a man with an agenda of his own and a vested interest in seeing things that do not exist but support his primary occupational narrative.
Rob Boston
Rob Boston is senior policy analyst at Americans United for Separation of Church and State. Rob, who has worked at Americans United since 1987, also serves as assistant editor of AU's "Church & State" magazine. Rob is the author of three books: "Close Encounters with the Religious Right: Journeys into the Twilight Zone of Religion and Politics" (Prometheus Books, 2000); "The Most Dangerous Man in America? Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition" (Prometheus Books, 1996) and "Why the Religious Right Is Wrong About Separation of Church and State" (Prometheus Books, 1993; second edition, 2003).
As a man who makes his living pandering inflammatory prose to a constituency that provides the funding for his organization that provides him with his living.
People like this man conquer anything, they just keep ginning up the fear factor so the cash keeps rolling.
The disparagement of those who believe that government should be transparent, fiscally responsible, and accountable for its actions is difficult to understand. Which part of that formula do you disagree with partially or in total.
Transparency of action allowed the entire community to weigh in on whether or not we should rent our public facilities to an organization wishing to teach a class on the United States Constitution.
Transparency in government allowed the public to weigh in on whether or not we should investigate the possibility of a charter school in this district.(This was just an investigation of the idea's pros and cons mind you, the union and its supporters vehemently opposed any such search for answers)
Fiscal Responsibility means we are not slaves to wave after wave of levy campaigns demanding more money, more money, ever more money.
Fiscal Responsibility translates to we learn to live within our means rather than our wants and desires.
Accountability allows the community that pays this bill some semblance of control holding public employees and elected officials responsible for the good and the bad.
Accountability is bringing the days of "Oh well, that just the way it is" to a close, as people and officials are held responsible for their actions.
What do you find so offensive about those concepts?
No Doubt it was really wrong to judge our neighbor and Springboro parent so harshly; but it was done out of ignorance of being ill-informed by the OEA indoctrination war of words against Kelly Kohls. No Doubt "Fiscal Responsibility" means we are not slaves to wave after wave of levy campaigns demanding more money, more money, ever more money. No Doubt, BOE member Kelly Kohls, has liberated the minds of the people from the false religion of unionism indoctrination! No Doubt, as a man thinks, so he is!
We Love Thinking Freely! We Love Kelly!
No Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25972 Jul 22, 2013
Malone again naturally wrote:
To think that only yesterday
'Boro blue & white, and "gay"
Kids not looking forward to the retirement of
Dr. Malone 'cause he was overpaid.
Melodrama 'round the town
But reality comes around
Beloved, yes, but do the students know of
Parents taxed to little pieces?
Now Malone's going to run for BOE
Oh, Heaven, help us!
If he really cares for our kids
Why won't he really retire?
In this NFSS hour of 'need'
We truly are indeed
Malone again, naturally
No Doubt we all remember during business meeting discussion of the principal's fundraising project of school pictures; when the superintendent told the public that unless Principal Ron profited from this service to the students and their parents; that there was no motive for him to invest his time in offering this service to his students and their parents. No Doubt Dr. Malone has prescribed himself these "fund-raisings entitlements" for so long that his ego is addicted to owning false pride of "doing it all for the love of kids!" Such a hypocritical quack is Dr. Malone!
No Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25973 Jul 22, 2013
All About Money wrote:
<quoted text>
Education in Springboro Schools is all about money and power and who gets to control both. A school house divided cannot provide wholeness for our children's future.
We have a power struggle going on between our children first board members and Malone's union first members; The decisions made during these employment contract negotiations will support our financial victory for our children's first budget; or reverse our school district's money to the control of Malone's "business as usual" forced unionism/indoctrination for
our children's classroom education.
No Doubt all Springboro Taxpayers trusted the SEA/union activists who were rallying that all they wanted was a fair pay increase for our teachers; and if the BOE did not accept the SEA demands, then the SEA would choose to strike against taxpayers, causing chaos and disruption even more so in our strongly divided school community against the community taxpaying homeowners.
Finally, what a celebration felt among taxpayers when the BOE announced we have settled by delivering to the union what they want; but what do you think happened on that very night the great news was given, except one of the Sure Parents went right up to the TV news crew and, lo and behold, started complaining about BOE president refusing to allow her to ask questions about getting more money from the renewal levy approved!
No Doubt, we can all expect to be held captive audience, again, as these angry bird Sure parents aka Neighbors for Springboro Schools get all pre-arranged for public disruption, fighting social justice for union greed, at the next public school board meeting.
The contract is settled, but Lisa Babb is already puffed up and ready to expound hot air at the board, contesting the board's judgement of being fair to ALL, just not acceptable to unionism rules of demanding it "Unfairness" unless the Union takes it all.
sheep

Springboro, OH

#25974 Jul 22, 2013
Doug Wiedeman wrote:
<quoted text>
Who else but Mr. Malone was charged with overseeing the fund raising activities in his school?
I do not see what is demeaning about the question, unless you do not expect people to do the job they are being paid to perform.
I do not recall once Mr. Malone coming out in public asking the Boosters to cooperate with the school board and release their records. Mr. Malone certainly had ample platforms and opportunities to do this service for the community. Mr. Malone chose instead to remain quietly on the sideline while his children's athletic funds were being further looted, providing Mr. Harves with valuable time to cover his tracks.
I cannot believe that Mr. Malone had never met Mr. Harves in the 12 years Mr. Malone was principal and the coinciding 12 years that Mr. Harves held the purse strings of the Booster monies. Mr. Harves was in financial charge of an organization which raised millions of dollars for Springboro athletics over Mr. Malone's tenure as principal, it is hard to imagine Mr. Harves and Mr. Malone did not speak during this 12 year period.
This is the man you wish to charge with responsibility of a $45,000,000 school district budget?
Or do we charge with responsibility someone with a $45 million budget that can't control her personal budget and needed to file bankruptcy?

And as I see it - you chose to remain silent as well.
TV Land

Piqua, OH

#25975 Jul 22, 2013
All About Money wrote:
<quoted text>
Education in Springboro Schools is all about money and power and who gets to control both. A school house divided cannot provide wholeness for our children's future.
We have a power struggle going on between our children first board members and Malone's union first members; The decisions made during these employment contract negotiations will support our financial victory for our children's first budget; or reverse our school district's money to the control of Malone's "business as usual" forced unionism/indoctrination for
our children's classroom education.
Recently our family has been turning off the TV on the board meetings. Although it would be interesting to be informed about school business, and how our taxes are spent, we've noticed that more time is spent allowing the citizens to talk about how they want the money spent; but mostly how much they don't want Mrs. Kohls to have any say in money matters or leadership of our school district; although she was elected by all the voters, we noticed that some parents have consistently claimed that they will take back "their board" and that "their community" agrees that Mrs. Kohls should not be allowed to serve in this elected position.
It is understood that Mrs. Kohls is a parent, too, but these few parents keep bullying her to get her politics of fiscal responsibility out of "their" school.
We have seen these brutal verbal attacks launched against board member Mrs. Kohls by Springboro parents, demanding that she show respect for our teachers and give them more money, because these professional educators are entitled to more, not because they have earned more, only because they teach in Springboro and Springboro homeowners are wealthy enough to "pay" more. We have seen these parents "taunt" Mrs. Kohls by ridiculing, "where are the parents who support you?" (Obviously, the majority of parents have no complaints; so why should we all run to board meetings to argue our rights to be represented by Mrs. Kohls). We can clearly see that these parents, who cause such ugliness against Mrs. Kohls, are only "playing to TV news cameras" and stroking their own egos of false massive bully power.
We have seen enough the past few months to know that we will definitely vote no to school levy in the fall. It's impossible to know all the facts that have caused parents (in the name of caring about their kids education) to bully another parent such as we have seen Mrs. Kohls bullied; but there has been no professional "Efforts" made by any of the Springboro educators to tone down this cruel and uncivil "tongue lashing" that a few parents pre-arrange to launch on Mrs. Kohls at every meeting. Renewal levy vote is coming up soon, and the time is now for our professional educators to call off these "school yard bullies" and union bullies; and let's see some of that talk about "caring about ALL our kids and ALL our parents" put into action. Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees; and it's hard to watch bully Springboro parents beat down another Springboro parent in the name of "demanding respect." We are plowing through that contract posted on the website, but we aren't seeing a whole lot of stuff "for the kids best interest." There seems to be rules and rules granting the Union more power over the school district leaders and the elected officials who represent the Taxpayers. And stealing lots of classroom time away from the students to give the union more time to hold their meetings, including indoctrination meetings of new-hires and building principals and staff. All in All, it looks like the union got Two more years of More Entitlement Pay and less time "invested" in our children's classroom instruction.
Why should taxpayers vote for renewal of status quo?

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