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Without A Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25568 Jul 6, 2013
swee pea wrote:
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re: Maple Hands
Classic!
Tell me if I'm wrong, but I really don't think it's possible for someone to slip up worse than this.
Without a doubt, Unfortunate Maple Hands has been hanging out in that Christopher Ritter "open springboro" blog being indoctrinated on HOW to think critically with a "closed mind" to anything good in our great schools and beautiful neighborhoods!
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25569 Jul 6, 2013
In 2008, the Zinn Education Project was launched to promote and support the use of A People's History of the United States (and other materials) for teaching in middle and high school classrooms across the U.S. The goal of the project is to give American students accurate and complete versions of U.S. history, with full historical complexity. With funds from an anonymous donor who had been a student of Zinn, the project began by distributing 4,000 packets to teachers in all states and territories. The project now offers teaching guides and bibliographies that can be freely downloaded.

Here is what some noted historians from some of our more liberal colleges in America have to say about Mr. Zinn's book.

Harvard University historian Oscar Handlin wrote in a review in The American Scholar:
Hence the deranged quality of this fairy tale, in which the incidents are made to fit the legend, no matter how intractable the evidence of American history. It may be unfair to expose to critical scrutiny a work patched together from secondary sources, many used uncritically (Jennings, Williams), others ravaged for material torn out of context (Young, Pike). Any careful reader will perceive that Zinn is a stranger to evidence bearing upon the people about whom he purports to write. But only critics who know the sources will recognize the complex array of devices that pervert his pages... On the other hand, the book conveniently omits whatever does not fit its overriding thesis... It would be a mistake, however, to regard Zinn as merely Anti-American. Brendan Behan once observed that whoever hated America hated mankind, and hatred of mankind is the dominant tone of Zinn's book... He lavishes indiscriminate condemnation upon all the works of man — that is, upon civilization, a word he usually encloses in quotation marks.

In the Washington Post Book World, reviewer Michael Kammen, a professor of American History at Cornell, wrote:

I wish that I could pronounce Zinn's book a great success, but it is not. It is a synthesis of the radical and revisionist historiography of the past decade... Not only does the book read like a scissors and paste-pot job, but even less attractive, so much attention to historians, historiography and historical polemic leaves precious little space for the substance of history.... We do deserve a people's history; but not a simpleminded history, too often of fools, knaves and Robin Hoods. We need a judicious people's history because the people are entitled to have their history whole; not just those parts that will anger or embarrass them.... If that is asking for the moon, then we will cheerfully settle for balanced history

Writing in Dissent, Georgetown University history professor Michael Kazin argued that Zinn is too focused on class conflict, and wrongly attributes sinister motives to the American political elite. He characterized the book as an overly simplistic narrative of elite villains and oppressed people, with no attempt to understand historical actors in the context of the time in which they lived. Kazin wrote:

The ironic effect of such portraits of rulers is to rob 'the people' of cultural richness and variety, characteristics that might gain the respect and not just the sympathy of contemporary readers. For Zinn, ordinary Americans seem to live only to fight the rich and haughty and, inevitably, to be fooled by them.

Kazin argued that A People's History fails to explain why the American political-economic model continues to attract millions of minorities, women, workers, and immigrants, or why the socialist and radical political movements Zinn favors have failed to gain widespread support among the American public.

Not too worry, the New York Times columnists fell in love with its hate and blame the US tone.

Who is passing this waste of the rainforest off as education?

And why would this tripe be considered required reading for an A/P History class?
Without A Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25570 Jul 6, 2013
Community Member wrote:
<quoted text>
I have lived here nearly thirty years and let me tell you some of the slimy stuff I have witnessed. All communities face these same issues because no one is watching the chicken coop. You can be thankful we are solvent, the booster $1 million plus scam was unmasked after 20 some years of nobody wishing to ask the uncomfortable questions, the BOE has not tied us up with contracts we can ill afford, we got rid of people with questionable ethics and replaced them with people who put the kids first instead of the union. If I have to pay taxes for schools I want that money going to provide a real education, not one like the Educational Service Center said Malone was providing. When they reported that his program was going in the wrong direction and zero research or experience supported that change, Malone doubled down by doing more of the same. Malone put the first report in his desk and "forgot" to share it with anyone. A couple years later when they do another survey they find the same things only more so. This is Boro Pride, stealing large swatches of our children's education for phony honors? Count me out of your definition.
Malone's what's good for the union is good for the kids philosophy was wrong then and is wrong now.
Parents and teachers have been complaining about malone's inefficiencies on the job for many years. But malone just had some kind of "cult-like" influence as education god for the union masters. malone was very possessive of the students, encouraged their praise and worship which elevated himself as being overwhelmed at what the students were doing for him; but his focus should have been on what educators can do for the student to elevate higher individual achievement.
It isn't unusual for a professional to become so "beloved" of himself in his job, that he forgets it is not "himself" for whom he works. Now that Malone is happily and successfully retired, change in SHS leadership has come and our school districts new philosophy of benefits to our students first.
really now

Dayton, OH

#25571 Jul 6, 2013
with all the geniuses posting forever here, it's amazing it's the same few that run for office...what a friggin joke most of you are...all mouth, no action... frauds I believe is the most accurate description of most of you..
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25572 Jul 6, 2013
US history wrote:
required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on US History by socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Mein Kampf also on this reading list for this summer?
In 2008, the Zinn Education Project was launched to promote and support the use of A People's History of the United States (and other materials) for teaching in middle and high school classrooms across the U.S. The goal of the project is to give American students accurate and complete versions of U.S. history, with full historical complexity. With funds from an anonymous donor who had been a student of Zinn, the project began by distributing 4,000 packets to teachers in all states and territories. The project now offers teaching guides and bibliographies that can be freely downloaded.

Great news considering real professors from some of the more liberal colleges of the land call this book garbage.

Harvard University historian Oscar Handlin wrote in a review in The American Scholar:

Hence the deranged quality of this fairy tale, in which the incidents are made to fit the legend, no matter how intractable the evidence of American history. It may be unfair to expose to critical scrutiny a work patched together from secondary sources, many used uncritically (Jennings, Williams), others ravaged for material torn out of context (Young, Pike). Any careful reader will perceive that Zinn is a stranger to evidence bearing upon the people about whom he purports to write. But only critics who know the sources will recognize the complex array of devices that pervert his pages... On the other hand, the book conveniently omits whatever does not fit its overriding thesis... It would be a mistake, however, to regard Zinn as merely Anti-American. Brendan Behan once observed that whoever hated America hated mankind, and hatred of mankind is the dominant tone of Zinn's book... He lavishes indiscriminate condemnation upon all the works of man — that is, upon civilization, a word he usually encloses in quotation marks.

Michael Kammen, a professor of American History at Cornell University, wrote:

I wish that I could pronounce Zinn's book a great success, but it is not. It is a synthesis of the radical and revisionist historiography of the past decade... Not only does the book read like a scissors and paste-pot job, but even less attractive, so much attention to historians, historiography and historical polemic leaves precious little space for the substance of history.... We do deserve a people's history; but not a simpleminded history, too often of fools, knaves and Robin Hoods. We need a judicious people's history because the people are entitled to have their history whole; not just those parts that will anger or embarrass them.... If that is asking for the moon, then we will cheerfully settle for balanced history.

Writing in Dissent, Georgetown University history professor Michael Kazin argued that Zinn is too focused on class conflict, and wrongly attributes sinister motives to the American political elite. He characterized the book as an overly simplistic narrative of elite villains and oppressed people, with no attempt to understand historical actors in the context of the time in which they lived. Kazin wrote:

The ironic effect of such portraits of rulers is to rob 'the people' of cultural richness and variety, characteristics that might gain the respect and not just the sympathy of contemporary readers. For Zinn, ordinary Americans seem to live only to fight the rich and haughty and, inevitably, to be fooled by them.

Kazin argued that A People's History fails to explain why the American political-economic model continues to attract millions of minorities, women, workers, and immigrants, or why the socialist and radical political movements Zinn favors have failed to gain widespread support among the American public.
Without A Doubt

Piqua, OH

#25573 Jul 6, 2013
US history wrote:
A friend told me required reading for the A/P history class was an alternate take on USHistory by noted socialist historian Howard Zinn. In his view we are a misogynistic, racist, genocidal, land and resource mongering plague upon humanity. Is Meinert Kampf also on this reading list for this summer's enjoyment?
No doubt this type of indoctrination of our children's minds has become deeply entrenched in our high school's program of studies
and requirements. Talking doesn't solve anything; but nothing gets solved until people start talking. And that the good that came from talking about these proposed policy changes in curriculum;
if the board had not brought this to public attention, many of us would not have known just how "cult-like" and "suspicious of the outsiders" that our SEA teachers really have become. After listening to the social studies teacher and the SEA official/librarian, inquiring minds want to know who is choosing books for our school libraries and we must demand that diversity of our community of about 10,000 households is represented with our school tax dollars. Our Union teachers in every classroom may have a stronghold on our students minds in textbook teaching; but our libraries should be filled with resources that open our children's minds to thinking "outside the union tent."

Our teachers are OEA indoctrinated on HOW to think Union First;
and HOW to influence our children's minds to think Union First.
The SEA truly is much like an "educational cult" that encourages praise and worship of the "education gods" and demands financial sacrifices of our school tax dollars be made "religiously" ....
that is, every time that the union masters preach from the bully pulpit ...the time has come for the education gods to "help ourselves" to more of what we don't need -- Your Money!
Hold On

Girard, OH

#25574 Jul 6, 2013
MapleHands wrote:
Truth be told - Springboro has been generally regarded as a pretty nice place to live, with strong schools and community spirit, for quite some time.(40+ years at least, longer than most of the posters on this forum have been around!) For years, if you'd travel around the state you'd hear opinions of Springboro as a nice place with above average demographics that was coninuing to grow, prosper, and produce quality students who became quality members of society.

I'm sure during all these years there was a BOE who was making the decisions that governed our schools - I just never heard from them. I think they just quietly gave their service without trying to grandstand or seek self-importance. Now, I'm not naive to think that all of their decisions were perfect or wouldn't need to be improved upon as the schools and community grew and evolved. But they certainly weren't striving to be in the limelight or of notoriety.

I'm thankful for people who are willing to serve in the BOE capacity - I know I'm not! To be tasked with attempting to make sound decisions that impact our chldren while being criticized by the masses would be a thankless job to say the least. But it sure seems that for every seemingly positive "improvement" that this current BOE has made for our schools, it has taken two steps in the other direction in terms of community morale and pride? The state-wide opinions of Springboro are different these days, and not for the better! All-in-all, I think most agree that Springboro remains a nice place to be compared to most of the alternatives. I just wish the days of when I didn't know the names of the BOE would return - not because I was uniterested, but because the BOE and its individual members weren't newsworthy!

It's hard to find anyone who doesn't subscribe to their own personal agenda in most any situation. That's how it should be. But, by virtue of their positions, I think the BOE has a duty to make the collective agenda of the masses a part of their agenda. Continue to preach all the "fiscal responsibility" you want - but mix a few smiles and the bringing together of the community into your platform. For all of the successful politically-driven policy change that you deem "good" - while driving a crippling wedge into the community that is "bad" - isn't getting us the progress we are hoping for? Step up a rung on method, step back down a rung on morale?

I'm not alone in saying that I'd have a hard time arguing that our schools are in an "overall" better position than they were a few years ago. I'm not sure that I wouldn't be willing to pay some of my share of all the money this BOE "saved" me to get some of the community pride that we have lost back!

Hardly what I call success.
I could have written this post myself. Well said!

-Someone who has lived on Boro nearly 40 years.
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25575 Jul 7, 2013
Sunday, April 16, 2000
Springboro school board under fire by parents

Superintendent's departure led to protests, questions

BY Phillip Pina
The Cincinnati Enquirer
SPRINGBORO — At first glance, this Warren County city appears to be the picture of prosperous and tranquil suburbia, growing rapidly with upscale subdivisions but with a quaint “Old Springboro” downtown area. Yet it is a community seething with turmoil over its children's schools.

Parents mass by the hundreds inside for raucous school board meetings and outside for sign-waving protests that began heating up after the board last month bought out the contract of the popular superintendent. Since then, three other key administrators have announced plans to leave — including, on Wednesday, the high school's principal.

There is much to be done as the schools cope with exploding growth. But first the board must survive an effort to oust it.

Disgruntled parents have collected about 2,000 signatures on petitions asking for school board members to quit. Newspaper ads have been taken out demanding the same. Thousands of letters have been mailed to rouse public interest.

“Until this board resigns, heaven help us,” said Noel Thompson, the father of two students at Springboro.

Springboro is a small city that has seen growth jump nearly 60 percent since 1990 to an estimated 10,500 residents. And as in most growing communities, school leaders have been battling over issues of taxes, space and overall policy.

But what is happening in Springboro is by no means typical, said William Drury, assistant dean of the school of education at the University of Dayton. A school board consultant as well as the former president of the Buckeye Association of School Administrators, he has been keeping an eye on the situation.

“It's the local soap opera,” Mr. Drury said.

In the mid-1990s, the political minority on the Springboro school board — Cindy Garland and Gary Ihle — clashed repeatedly with administrators and lost many votes by a 3-2 count. After a short stint outside politics, Ms. Garland was elected last fall.

As many as 500 residents have shown up at recent board meetings.

“Certainly it's the talk of the town,” said Ed Perkins, who has been serving as interim superintendent since Gary Meier's resignation.

Questions in phone calls to board members and during public meetings include: Why did they let Mr. Meier go? If they questioned his work, why buy out his contract for $280,000? What are they doing to keep key personnel?

In earlier comments, Mr. Ihle has said board members were concerned about the district's operations. It took four tries to pass a school levy in November that allowed Springboro to open a school that had sat vacant two years despite $4.1 million in renovations.

And he said the working relationship with school administrators had become difficult, that communications had broken down.

High School Principal Jack Poore said last week he intends to accept a post as principal at the Miami Valley Career Technical Center near Dayton.

“There is an uncertain feeling about the direction of the district,” said Mr. Poore, who is leaving Springboro after three years. He said he's leaving because of an opportunity, but agrees that staff are uneasy about the administrative turnover and the actions of the school board.

He added that Springboro has been a good district with a lot of good people supporting it.

Springboro passed 22 of 27 state testing standards and has been labeled as showing continuous improvement, and its student performance scores last year were above state averages. It spends about $5,281 per pupil, compared with an Ohio average of $6,642




Ahhhh, yes, the good old days.

Same pro levy protests, "We can't get enough, give us more."
Not holding tight enough

Cleveland, OH

#25576 Jul 7, 2013
Hold On wrote:
<quoted text>
I could have written this post myself. Well said!
-Someone who has lived on Boro nearly 40 years.
You best hold on to your memory, it seems to be a wee bit short on retention according to the Cincinnati paper on events that happened just 13 years ago.
pro v con at bottom

Cleveland, OH

#25577 Jul 7, 2013
(e) The Superintendent shall consider such factors as the professional background of the applicants, their seniority in the District (See Article XII, Section 12.01, Seniority Definition), their work performance and their experience elsewhere. The filling of each position shall be governed by the principle of selecting the best person for the position, as determined solely by the Superintendent.

(f) Except for an open position filed by involuntary transfer, applicants for other vacant positions will be considered in the following order:

(1) applicants seeking reassignment;

(2) displaced employees seeking voluntary transfer;

(3) employees seeking voluntary transfer; then

(4) others seeking employment with the District.

(g) For purposes of this section, the following definitions shall be:

(1) Reassignment: A change of subject or grade level assignment within the building.

(2) Transfer: A change of subject or grade level assignment from one building to another.

(3) Displaced Employee: An employee who is not assigned to the same teaching position and who is without an assignment.

CON
The board proposed removing seniority as a consideration for filling vacant positions in the district. This means that teachers who have faithfully served the district for years could be bypassed for cheaper, less qualified teachers.

Seniority should not be the only consideration, but experience is important to any job. Apparently the board sees educating our children as somehow different – a unique job where experience in the field, relationships with the community, and accumulated tribal knowledge are all meaningless.

PRO
Could also mean that more qualified and more talented individuals could rise to the top. Time in rank is not a good indicator of whether or not a person is qualified for a certain position. There is something to be said for experience, the only qualifier is whether or not said experience was good or bad.

What is wrong with picking the best candidate? How does that provide a disservice to our children?
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25578 Jul 7, 2013
really now wrote:
with all the geniuses posting forever here, it's amazing it's the same few that run for office...what a friggin joke most of you are...all mouth, no action... frauds I believe is the most accurate description of most of you..
You never know who may show up on your local ballot, perhaps a "genius" or two.
The Scoffer

Piqua, OH

#25579 Jul 7, 2013
Hold On wrote:
<quoted text>
I could have written this post myself. Well said!
-Someone who has lived on Boro nearly 40 years.
Hey there Brother Ron... come on down to the Boro hypocrites prayer meeting now; You know that your place of ministry is serving as the "only worthy authority" education god, of the Springboro Schools Board of Education. Let's all pray up some false accusations against our children first; and re-instate Brother Ron as Union First President of the Springboro Board of Education.
(Do I hear applause for Ron, my brothers and sisters who are united against fiscal responsibiity in Springboro education?)
A deal is a deal....and Ron's youth union kids made a deal
with Ron that when they came of age, their vote
for revenge would throw responsible spenders of our school tax dollars right out of elected office! Question is: What say ye, Ron, when you come to full power as chief officer of the
unionism bully pulpit, which bullies will sit on your left and your right?
oops! silly me... there simply is no right side to Mr. Malone's vote for revenge against our children first. Guess that leaves Malone LEFT with the prayer response of...... NO.
Could it be that Ron's calling is to serve in volunteer service of his youth unions group through his church, instead of his disruptive service in our schools?
Con is union position

Cleveland, OH

#25580 Jul 8, 2013
pro v con at bottom wrote:
(e) The Superintendent shall consider such factors as the professional background of the applicants, their seniority in the District (See Article XII, Section 12.01, Seniority Definition), their work performance and their experience elsewhere. The filling of each position shall be governed by the principle of selecting the best person for the position, as determined solely by the Superintendent.
(f) Except for an open position filed by involuntary transfer, applicants for other vacant positions will be considered in the following order:
(1) applicants seeking reassignment;
(2) displaced employees seeking voluntary transfer;
(3) employees seeking voluntary transfer; then
(4) others seeking employment with the District.
(g) For purposes of this section, the following definitions shall be:
(1) Reassignment: A change of subject or grade level assignment within the building.
(2) Transfer: A change of subject or grade level assignment from one building to another.
(3) Displaced Employee: An employee who is not assigned to the same teaching position and who is without an assignment.
CON
The board proposed removing seniority as a consideration for filling vacant positions in the district. This means that teachers who have faithfully served the district for years could be bypassed for cheaper, less qualified teachers.
Seniority should not be the only consideration, but experience is important to any job. Apparently the board sees educating our children as somehow different – a unique job where experience in the field, relationships with the community, and accumulated tribal knowledge are all meaningless.
PRO
Could also mean that more qualified and more talented individuals could rise to the top. Time in rank is not a good indicator of whether or not a person is qualified for a certain position. There is something to be said for experience, the only qualifier is whether or not said experience was good or bad.
What is wrong with picking the best candidate? How does that provide a disservice to our children?
Con is the union position

Pro is in the best interest of the children

Which makes more sense to you?
Dollars and Sense

Piqua, OH

#25581 Jul 8, 2013
Con is union position wrote:
<quoted text>
Con is the union position
Pro is in the best interest of the children
Which makes more sense to you?
The Springboro Board of Education President makes SENSE to me,
as stated in the Springboro Sun on July 4th.

"We have now completed an evaluation of the financial impact of the current SEA proposal. It exceeds the school district's available funds by more than $2 million in years one and two," Kohls said, "In the spirit of transparency, we want to update the public on the BOE and SEA proposed agreements."

The parties remain divided on these key issues:
The board is offering step raises of 4.75 - 5.75 percent per year depending upon level of education when compared to the existing salary schedule. Those not eligible for a step raise would receive a $1,000 annual stipend. The SEA is countering with continued step raises and an additional 2.7 percent raise in base salary in the first year and an additional 1.7 percent in the second year.

The district is offering to pay 80 percent of health, dental and vision insurance premiums, SEA is countering with a continuation of 85 percent paid by the district. Employees now pay $170 per month for family plan coverage. Under the BOE proposal, monthly premiums will increase $57 per month so that employees would now pay $227 per month for the family plan.

The board proposals include a merit/performance-based pay system commencing no later than Feb. 1, 2015.

The proposals presented by the board and SEA agree to maintain the original contract language, thus leaving compensation and healthcare benefits as the remaining issues to resolve.

We have listened to our community. We are committed to providing a quality education, being fiscally prudent and being as fair to our employees as is possible in these difficult economic times,” Kohls said.“The board is also driven by a ‘Children First’ budget
That takes into account all aspects of our children’s education.”

Kohls also announced last week that a tentative agreement between the board and the Springboro Classified Employees Association,(SCEA), the union representing bus drivers, cafeteria workers and other non-teaching staff, is supported by the board,
According to board president, Kelly Kohls.

We are pleased with this tentative agreement,” said Kohls.“We will have an agreement that is a part of our plan to remain sustainable into the future.” She continued,“The SCEA and the BOE agreed to an increase in compensation and changes to the health
Insurance package which the district can accommodate.”

Highlights of the agreement include:
-Step Raises for three years
-$1000 annual stipend for three years;
-Employees will pay 20 percent for healthcare insurance, the district will pay 80 percent of the premium;
-Contract period will be four years

“I am very happy to make this announcement today. Our hope is that we can have similar news about our teacher union negotiations in the near future,” said Kohls.“We promised our community we would approve only agreements that were economically sustainable. We certainly have as far as our classified workers are concerned. This will be our ongoing goal as our negotiation team continues its work.”


entitled boro teachers

Girard, OH

#25582 Jul 8, 2013
Dollars and Sense wrote:
<quoted text>
The Springboro Board of Education President makes SENSE to me,
as stated in the Springboro Sun on July 4th.
"We have now completed an evaluation of the financial impact of the current SEA proposal. It exceeds the school district's available funds by more than $2 million in years one and two," Kohls said, "In the spirit of transparency, we want to update the public on the BOE and SEA proposed agreements."
The parties remain divided on these key issues:
The board is offering step raises of 4.75 - 5.75 percent per year depending upon level of education when compared to the existing salary schedule. Those not eligible for a step raise would receive a $1,000 annual stipend. The SEA is countering with continued step raises and an additional 2.7 percent raise in base salary in the first year and an additional 1.7 percent in the second year.
The district is offering to pay 80 percent of health, dental and vision insurance premiums, SEA is countering with a continuation of 85 percent paid by the district. Employees now pay $170 per month for family plan coverage. Under the BOE proposal, monthly premiums will increase $57 per month so that employees would now pay $227 per month for the family plan.
The board proposals include a merit/performance-based pay system commencing no later than Feb. 1, 2015.
The proposals presented by the board and SEA agree to maintain the original contract language, thus leaving compensation and healthcare benefits as the remaining issues to resolve.
We have listened to our community. We are committed to providing a quality education, being fiscally prudent and being as fair to our employees as is possible in these difficult economic times,” Kohls said.“The board is also driven by a ‘Children First’ budget
That takes into account all aspects of our children’s education.”
Kohls also announced last week that a tentative agreement between the board and the Springboro Classified Employees Association,(SCEA), the union representing bus drivers, cafeteria workers and other non-teaching staff, is supported by the board,
According to board president, Kelly Kohls.
We are pleased with this tentative agreement,” said Kohls.“We will have an agreement that is a part of our plan to remain sustainable into the future.” She continued,“The SCEA and the BOE agreed to an increase in compensation and changes to the health
Insurance package which the district can accommodate.”
Highlights of the agreement include:
-Step Raises for three years
-$1000 annual stipend for three years;
-Employees will pay 20 percent for healthcare insurance, the district will pay 80 percent of the premium;
-Contract period will be four years
“I am very happy to make this announcement today. Our hope is that we can have similar news about our teacher union negotiations in the near future,” said Kohls.“We promised our community we would approve only agreements that were economically sustainable. We certainly have as far as our classified workers are concerned. This will be our ongoing goal as our negotiation team continues its work.”
Two questions for those with an advanced degree who works in the private sector...

How many of you are currently (that means "right now") seeing annual raises between 4.75%- 5.75%?

How many of you currently (again, that means "right now") pay 20%(or less) of total individual package costs for healthcare insurance through your private sector employer?
I am

Springboro, OH

#25583 Jul 8, 2013
entitled boro teachers wrote:
<quoted text>
Two questions for those with an advanced degree who works in the private sector...
How many of you are currently (that means "right now") seeing annual raises between 4.75%- 5.75%?
How many of you currently (again, that means "right now") pay 20%(or less) of total individual package costs for healthcare insurance through your private sector employer?
I am. I am in the Advanced Manufacturing industry. Have a Masters in Engineering. I pay 10% for my healthcare.
Overtaxed and Fed Up

Piqua, OH

#25584 Jul 8, 2013
entitled boro teachers wrote:
<quoted text>
Two questions for those with an advanced degree who works in the private sector...
How many of you are currently (that means "right now") seeing annual raises between 4.75%- 5.75%?
How many of you currently (again, that means "right now") pay 20%(or less) of total individual package costs for healthcare insurance through your private sector employer?
Answer to question (1) No, not one of my family members, friends and neighbors of the private sector kinds.

Answer to question (2) No, not one.

100% of private sector workers are fed up with our teachers union rights of collective bargaining, which is wrong for our children's future education, and the well being of individual citizens. 3029
Remember Us

Girard, OH

#25585 Jul 8, 2013
Remember how the 3 of you that post over and over under a multitude of names? Guess what? We are the young people you made fun of as being children for supporting Dr. Malone. Well hmmm,we are all grown up now and eligible to vote. Here we come, Kelly. All those months ago...who is laughing now?
Question Policy

Girard, OH

#25586 Jul 8, 2013
It's July 8 and no one has taken out a petition for Springboro BOE in Warren County.
a bird in the hand

Girard, OH

#25587 Jul 8, 2013
Question Policy wrote:
It's July 8 and no one has taken out a petition for Springboro BOE in Warren County.
Why not write in the name Bernie Becker? If nothing else our former perv fire chief could serve as an excellent target for miscellaneous flying tomatoes during board meetings!

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