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Silly Season of Politics

Cincinnati, OH

#25497 Jun 30, 2013
Question Policy wrote:
<quoted text>
The point is this: THIS BOE made an issue of groups not being charged usage fees. What I believe as far as usage fees is not really relevant to the topic here - The BOE made the rules, not me. So for them to now choose to not charge the fees to a group who is NOT a member of the community who happens to fit their agenda is rather ironic, don't you think? Are they not doing the same thing that they accused the prior administration of doing - waiving fees that they enacted without a vote?
Please refer to Policy 7510 for usage fees. It seems to me that the groups being brought to teach the classes fall into Category E:
"Use Group E.
Nonschool Related/Community Affiliated Groups or Individuals
Groups or individuals not affiliated with the School District or community may rent a school facility, Charges for use of the facilities will be negotiated by the Superintendent or designee and approved by the Board of Education."
Did I miss the vote when this BOE APPROVED the waiving of the fee? I think not. Again, it is a minor point, but a valid one none the less.
The point is this: silly season of politics can't thrive without a crisis a day; and IF there is NO crisis? NO problem! Union bullies are master builders of false crisis for silliness.
Just Watching

Englewood, OH

#25498 Jun 30, 2013
Kelly Kohls is as shameful an excuse for a BOE president that we'll likely ever see in this community. Come November, it is time for her to go!
Question

Cincinnati, OH

#25499 Jun 30, 2013
input wrote:
<quoted text>
I certainly don't disagree the premise of this point (the greed of teacher's unions) should be a central concern for all common sense taxpayers. However, dissolution / consolidation of school districts in certain areas of the country has everything to do with enrollment declines of school age children. This is likely to happen a lot in the former Rust Belt especially in communities that have failed to effectively respond to the closing or offshoring of businesses & manufacturers. Unlike most of Ohio, the population of N. Warren county continues to grow at a steady pace. So long as this trend continues we'll never have to think about district consolidation.
A money-saving strategy that's recently become somewhat popular in certain rural Ohio districts is two or more districts sharing the salary and time of one administrator, typically the district's treasurer.
Doesn't Springboro schools already share services of the school treasurer?
lol

Cincinnati, OH

#25500 Jun 30, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
Kelly Kohls is as shameful an excuse for a BOE president that we'll likely ever see in this community. Come November, it is time for her to go!
aw, come on now.... is this your best excuse to call attention to your shameful hostility and jealousy? So funny!
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25501 Jun 30, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
Kelly Kohls is as shameful an excuse for a BOE president that we'll likely ever see in this community. Come November, it is time for her to go!
Now you know the real Just Watching would never stoop to such low levels of obfuscation and most certainly would never compose something as drivelish as this.

I would make a case with facts, figures, reason, and logic.

Innuendo, half truths, outright lies, and things taken out of context are the slimy texture of a union hit piece.

While Ms Kohls is by no means a saint, she is also neither the hateful, mean spirited woman the union enjoys painting her as.

As with everyone else, she is a mixture of good points and bad points, in other words, human.

If you wish to debate a particular point of interest feel free to do so.

If all you have is this drivel posted under another's moniker, pity to your lack of self esteem.
No More Tax

Dayton, OH

#25503 Jul 1, 2013
How many Springboro Teachers would do this if they could.

California Teachers going to court for right to opt out of Union Dues.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/01/ca...
Uno Voter

Cincinnati, OH

#25504 Jul 1, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
Kelly Kohls is as shameful an excuse for a BOE president that we'll likely ever see in this community. Come November, it is time for her to go!
As for me and my household of voters, we just don't agree with your opinion of our BOE president. We love Kelly! And it is our opinion that we will see Mrs. Kohls re-elected as school board representative. Those of us who remember the way things were in our school district before Mrs. Kohls came on board in January 2010, will remember in November the good news that children first budgeting works; and re-electing Mrs. Kohls is a vote for continued success in our schools and community.
Uno Voter

Cincinnati, OH

#25505 Jul 1, 2013
It is noticed on this blog and in the newspapers and public meetings lots of opinions, both positive and negative, of all our elected officials. Many opinions are silly and light hearted, some are mean-spiritied, false accusations and intentional distortions of the truth. It just seems to go with the job that the more effective an elected offical
grows, the more negative his/her political opposition goes.
Politics is an ugly "business"
but when smart voters separate opinions vs facts,
the good news is that Springboro schools BOE elected officials are growing more effective,
one year at a time, in a very positive way for our children's future! Springboro loves our children first! Everybody Loves Good Financial News!

Springboro Board of Education Votes in Favor of $9.2 Million Levy for Fall Ballot

Springboro, Ohio (June 20, 2013)—At yesterday evening’s meeting, the Springboro Community City Schools Board of Education (BOE) voted in favor of placing a $9.2 million levy on the November ballot, according to Kelly Kohls, board president.

“We want to underscore that this is a renewal levy, and we are not asking for new money. As a result, taxes will not be raised for residents,” said Kohls.“The renewal is necessary to continue to fund the academic programs that have helped our school district achieve an Excellent with Distinction rating. We are committed to operating the district within the budget that Springboro taxpayers have approved. With the renewal levy, the board believes the district will be sustainable until 2017.”

This renewal levy announcement comes while negotiations are in progress between the Springboro BOE and the Springboro Education Association (SEA), the union representing the teachers and support staff employees.

“The board and administration have worked diligently together to manage the budget,” Kohls added.“By applying fiscally prudent measures across the school district, we have been able to reinstate textbook purchasing, technology upgrades, bus replacements and facility improvements. We have also provided necessary intervention at the elementary grade level, as well as enhanced services for gifted children.”

For more information, visit www.springboro.org .



Waste Watchers

Cincinnati, OH

#25506 Jul 2, 2013
No More Tax wrote:
How many Springboro Teachers would do this if they could.
California Teachers going to court for right to opt out of Union Dues.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/07/01/ca...
Is it true that union dues that all teachers are forced to pay aren't enough to pay for the union president's salary?
Isn't it true that the Springboro Education Association's agenda for our children's future is all about money and power, and who gets elected as board members so that the SEA can control both "money and power?"
Why do our State political leaders refuse to address this inequality in the public services workplace and stop this forced unionism in our local governments which denies our citizens the right to work without being taxed heavily by the big labor union bosses?

Recently I came across this testimony of an interested party who came before the Ohio Senate Insurance, Commerce & Labor Committee
back in 2011 on February 15.
"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Ohio can no longer afford the luxury of public sector collective bargaining. From 2000 to today, Ohio's private sector has lost a net of 612,700 jobs. That means there are over 600,000 fewer workers whose activities generated tax revenues to fund government.
During that same period of time, Ohio workers today are paying for roughly the same size government Ohio had ten years ago in term of employees. From January 1990 to today, Ohio netted a mere 102,200 private sector jobs and 62,100 government jobs.....
...My friends on the Left say that public sector collective bargaining is not the problem. Is that true? With collective bargaining, schools facing fiscal emergencies must cut programs and staff, which only hurts children and younger, but potentially better, teachers. With collective bargaining, the state must cut programs serving the poor and middle class, the group of Ohioans already hit hardest by the economic crisis. With collective bargaining, mayors must cut staffing levels, which undermine our public safety and the careers of young officers and firefighters.
Of course, my friends on the Left have an answer: raise taxes on business and rich Ohioans. Ohio already has the seventh highest state and local tax burden and Ohioo homeowners already have an average of twenty-five levies on their property. Does any reasonable person really believe that higher taxes and more levies will restore our lost prosperity? In homes across Ohio, reduced incomes mean spending cuts. Why should government be different?
Without collective barganing, schools, the state, mayors, and other government leaders could make decisions that keep many programs running and staffing at the same level--not one layoff. Would the decisions be painful for government workers? Of course. Would it be more painful than the pain suffered by the 613,000 private sector Ohioans who lost their jobs over the last ten years? Of course, not---not even close. Not to make too fine a point, but any government worker dissatisfied with the new normal can, of course, leave government and find one of those alleged higher paying jobs in the the private sector. There are thousands of Ohioans eager to replace them as teachers, police officers, firefighters, and state office workers."
Avrey

Longmeadow, MA

#25507 Jul 2, 2013
Waste Watchers wrote:
<quoted text>
Is it true that union dues that all teachers are forced to pay aren't enough to pay for the union president's salary?
Isn't it true that the Springboro Education Association's agenda for our children's future is all about money and power, and who gets elected as board members so that the SEA can control both "money and power?"
Why do our State political leaders refuse to address this inequality in the public services workplace and stop this forced unionism in our local governments which denies our citizens the right to work without being taxed heavily by the big labor union bosses?
Recently I came across this testimony of an interested party who came before the Ohio Senate Insurance, Commerce & Labor Committee
back in 2011 on February 15.
"According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, Ohio can no longer afford the luxury of public sector collective bargaining. From 2000 to today, Ohio's private sector has lost a net of 612,700 jobs. That means there are over 600,000 fewer workers whose activities generated tax revenues to fund government.
During that same period of time, Ohio workers today are paying for roughly the same size government Ohio had ten years ago in term of employees. From January 1990 to today, Ohio netted a mere 102,200 private sector jobs and 62,100 government jobs.....
...My friends on the Left say that public sector collective bargaining is not the problem. Is that true? With collective bargaining, schools facing fiscal emergencies must cut programs and staff, which only hurts children and younger, but potentially better, teachers. With collective bargaining, the state must cut programs serving the poor and middle class, the group of Ohioans already hit hardest by the economic crisis. With collective bargaining, mayors must cut staffing levels, which undermine our public safety and the careers of young officers and firefighters.
Of course, my friends on the Left have an answer: raise taxes on business and rich Ohioans. Ohio already has the seventh highest state and local tax burden and Ohioo homeowners already have an average of twenty-five levies on their property. Does any reasonable person really believe that higher taxes and more levies will restore our lost prosperity? In homes across Ohio, reduced incomes mean spending cuts. Why should government be different?
Without collective barganing, schools, the state, mayors, and other government leaders could make decisions that keep many programs running and staffing at the same level--not one layoff. Would the decisions be painful for government workers? Of course. Would it be more painful than the pain suffered by the 613,000 private sector Ohioans who lost their jobs over the last ten years? Of course, not---not even close. Not to make too fine a point, but any government worker dissatisfied with the new normal can, of course, leave government and find one of those alleged higher paying jobs in the the private sector. There are thousands of Ohioans eager to replace them as teachers, police officers, firefighters, and state office workers."
If we get rid of Leon Harrison of West Carrollton, OH we can lower our taxes and dump Obama Care.
hypocrite bowman go away

Cleveland, OH

#25508 Jul 2, 2013
Bowman has his panties uncomfortably stuck up into his crack over religion's involvement in Boro's summer Constitution, yet we don't hear word one from him about weekly church services that regularly meet in other publicly-funded facilities in our district known as Jonathan Wright and Five Points Elementary.
cowboy

Springboro, OH

#25509 Jul 2, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
Kelly Kohls is as shameful an excuse for a BOE president that we'll likely ever see in this community. Come November, it is time for her to go!
whatever you say, mr babbs.
Lurker

Englewood, OH

#25510 Jul 2, 2013
These churches aren't sponsored by the Board of Eduction and pay rent to use the facilities.
hypocrite bowman go away wrote:
Bowman has his panties uncomfortably stuck up into his crack over religion's involvement in Boro's summer Constitution, yet we don't hear word one from him about weekly church services that regularly meet in other publicly-funded facilities in our district known as Jonathan Wright and Five Points Elementary.
sheep

Springboro, OH

#25511 Jul 2, 2013
No one on this blog has commented on the recent decision by the SERB Board that found probable cause to investigate the unfair labor practice filed against the BOE. Wonder why? Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.....

But I still do believe in the premise "innocent until proven guilty". So we will see where this goes. Unfortunately, if anything dopes happen, it is typically a slap on the wrist.
Waste Watchers

Cincinnati, OH

#25512 Jul 2, 2013
sheep wrote:
No one on this blog has commented on the recent decision by the SERB Board that found probable cause to investigate the unfair labor practice filed against the BOE. Wonder why? Where there is smoke, there is usually fire.....
But I still do believe in the premise "innocent until proven guilty". So we will see where this goes. Unfortunately, if anything dopes happen, it is typically a slap on the wrist.
Everyone reading this blog now knows that these continuous streams of unfair labor practice "fake crisis" law suits are the evil needed by the greedy lawyers to continuously fatten their wallets with our school tax dollars. Just business as usual; status quo slap on the wrist, then on to the creation of another fake crisis as the victim project goes on and on.....
Only way to stop this waste of our money is just say NO to all new taxes on the November ballot. When the union has no new money, then the union will have no new fake law suits.
hypocrite bowman go away

Cleveland, OH

#25513 Jul 2, 2013
Lurker wrote:
These churches aren't sponsored by the Board of Eduction and pay rent to use the facilities.
<quoted text>
Nonetheless, these two churches are non-secular institutions which utilize space bought and paid for by Springboro and Clearcreek Twp taxpayer dollars. Rent paid or not, BOE sponsorship or not, if Bowman isn't a patented hypocrite, he would have begun raising hell at the time either one or both of these churches opened!

Imagine this not-so-impossible hypothetical...

Springboro's school board of the future is dominated with union-lovers the likes of Don Miller, Lisa Babb and David Bowman.
What sort of optional summer classes would you suppose liberals such as this would support?
Studies into the 21st Century Triumph of Gay Marriage?
How to Murder your Fetus 101 ?
Good News

Cincinnati, OH

#25514 Jul 2, 2013
Quiet Teacher wrote:
Although I would love to comment on the recent teacher complaint, I will not.
As a Boro HS teacher with more than 15 years of experience, I fully support the School Board and in private, most of the teachers do as well.
A few teachers are attempting to hijack the District for selfish economic gain. We do not need another levy.
Renewal Levy with no new taxes and no holding parents hostage over things like busing and activities fees!
Rarely do we see elected officials get to work, doing what's right for our schools and community,just like they said they would put our children first if elected! But now it is proven that Mrs. Kohls, Mr.Rigano, and Mr.Petroni are among those rare elected officials who actually practice responsible spending, getting better each year in keeping Springboro both safe and affordable and a great place to live, work, learn and play sports!

Springboro Board of Education Votes in Favor of $9.2 Million Levy for Fall Ballot

Springboro, Ohio (June 20, 2013)—At yesterday evening’s meeting, the Springboro Community City Schools Board of Education (BOE) voted in favor of placing a $9.2 million levy on the November ballot, according to Kelly Kohls, board president.

“We want to underscore that this is a renewal levy, and we are not asking for new money. As a result, taxes will not be raised for residents,” said Kohls.“The renewal is necessary to continue to fund the academic programs that have helped our school district achieve an Excellent with Distinction rating. We are committed to operating the district within the budget that Springboro taxpayers have approved. With the renewal levy, the board believes the district will be sustainable until 2017.”

This renewal levy announcement comes while negotiations are in progress between the Springboro BOE and the Springboro Education Association (SEA), the union representing the teachers and support staff employees.

“The board and administration have worked diligently together to manage the budget,” Kohls added.“By applying fiscally prudent measures across the school district, we have been able to reinstate textbook purchasing, technology upgrades, bus replacements and facility improvements. We have also provided necessary intervention at the elementary grade level, as well as enhanced services for gifted children.”

For more information, visit www.springboro.org .
Another Question

Cleveland, OH

#25515 Jul 2, 2013
Lurker wrote:
These churches aren't sponsored by the Board of Eduction and pay rent to use the facilities.
<quoted text>
So if the constitution classes pay rent and somebody else sponsors them, that would be cool?
Question Policy

Euclid, OH

#25516 Jul 2, 2013
Another Question wrote:
<quoted text>
So if the constitution classes pay rent and somebody else sponsors them, that would be cool?
At least there would be an attempt for the board to follow their own policy. Rent would be negotiated by the supr or designee and the board would then have to vote on it.
Too Many Rules

Cincinnati, OH

#25517 Jul 2, 2013
hypocrite bowman go away wrote:
<quoted text>
Nonetheless, these two churches are non-secular institutions which utilize space bought and paid for by Springboro and Clearcreek Twp taxpayer dollars. Rent paid or not, BOE sponsorship or not, if Bowman isn't a patented hypocrite, he would have begun raising hell at the time either one or both of these churches opened!
Imagine this not-so-impossible hypothetical...
Springboro's school board of the future is dominated with union-lovers the likes of Don Miller, Lisa Babb and David Bowman.
What sort of optional summer classes would you suppose liberals such as this would support?
Studies into the 21st Century Triumph of Gay Marriage?
How to Murder your Fetus 101 ?
Too Many Wrong Rules in Government Public Schools for Christians to argue their God-given rights in the secular world of man-made rules. We are taught to obey the authority of man made laws
until they oppose God's laws.

Thomas Jefferson wrote extensively on oppression, liberty, revolution and the necessary limits of government, saying in his notes on the State of Virginia (1785):
The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.

Since our public schools are now "picking my pocket and costing me an arm and a leg to support highly paid union teachers in every classroom, and then have their students standing up in taxpayers face and testifying "God has no place in this country".....
isn't it time that Christians responded by saying "neither does my money have a place in your teaching?
Every parent should have the choice of schools to "put their money where their mouth is" and invest their school tax money in a classroom education which "teaches for eternity" and not just to pass the Ohio graduation test.
Why can't an affluent community like Springboro provide a choice of classroom education, instead of forced unionism schools?

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