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Uno Voter

Piqua, OH

#25222 Jun 15, 2013
Springboro Loves Our Children First!

Check this website to find inspiring articles including "Children First Budgeting Works!"

http://educatespringboro.wordpress.com/2013/0...
Hold On

United States

#25223 Jun 15, 2013
Uno Voter wrote:
<quoted text>Your criticism of our school district's new philosophy of Children First Budgeting seems to be the focus in your sheep talk; so why target a Springboro parent, who agrees with our school district's new philosophy, and is a highly popular Springboro school board elected official?
To me, as a taxpaying homeowner and school district voter, I am more interested in hearing about how our school board representatives "feel" about our children's future education and what "actions" are being taken by the BOE to ensure that the children of the Springboro community receive an excellent education while keeping the costs of that education affordable, by carefully adhering to responsible spending.
In 2009, Kelly Kohls campaigned for school board election on the agenda of budget reform and levy alternatives; and in 2011, David Petroni and Jim Rigano were elected as school board representatives of Children FIRST Budgeting for educational and support services, with no holding parents hostage over things like busing and classroom fees.
Rarely do we see elected officials get to work for the people doing what they said they would do during their campaigns to get "elected." But that's just the kind of good parents and great leaders that our school board representatives, Mrs. Kohls, Mr. Petroni, Mr. Rigano are proving themselves to be!
Springboro parents are fortunate to have an elected BOE majority who put our children's best interest FIRST in every decision made!
Voters will remember in November the way things used to be before Kelly Kohls came on board in Janaury 2010! Why would any parent want to reverse to the old OSBA philosophy of schoool board members promoting an endless stream of new levies, emotionally blackmailing Springboro taxpayers for unnecessary increased taxes?
Uh. Highly popular elected school board member? Riiiiight.
Down Home in Boro

Piqua, OH

#25224 Jun 15, 2013
Hold On wrote:
<quoted text>
Uh. Highly popular elected school board member? Riiiiight.
Uh, that's Riiiiight! Highly popular locally elected school board member in the 2009 Springboro School Board elections! Among the four who were running to claim the three open school board seats up for grabs, the ONE children first budgeting "Springboro Parent" received the highest number of votes, according to official records! It's a fact down home in the Boro of our "highlypolular elected school board member!

(by the way....couldn't help noticing your Hold On Fairfax VA
address because I have lots of relatives living there! How's the
weather today?)
just great

Dayton, OH

#25225 Jun 15, 2013
Hold On wrote:
What are the odds on a strike happening? And when would this happen?
let 'em strike...another reason to vote no against the unions and their leaders here in town..had enough of this b.s. along with the corrupt union stoking mayor.
No OEA Indoctrination

Piqua, OH

#25226 Jun 15, 2013
Does the OEA encourage teachers to indoctrinate Ohioís Kids?
Is the OEA monthly newsletter to teachers posted on public websites?
Do we parents know what our children are learning from teacher unionists, who believe along with the OEA, that teachers should not only be members of a labor union, but also should indoctrinate our children on unionism?

As the OEA dictates teachers in their monthly newsletter,ďItís essential that they not only be teacher unionists, but teachers of unionism. We need to create a generation of students who support teachers and the movements of teachers for their rights.Ē
How about they focus on just teaching our kids the core skills they will need in math, reading, writing, and science? How about they leave their political ideology and unionism out of the classroom? As the National Assessment of Educational Progress results show, more than half of Americaís 8th graders fail basic civics tests. Clearly, our teachers have enough to do already.

The OEA needs to keep its left-wing views outside of the classroom and its hands off our kidsí curriculum. This type of indoctrination isnít a surprise coming from a group with a leader who once boldly admitted it was more concerned with getting more power than the best interest of our kids.
Stop Common Core

Piqua, OH

#25227 Jun 15, 2013
Nearly two years ago, the Ohio State Board of Education adopted the Obama administrationís educational program of Common Core only 16 days after it was announced. There was no time for evaluation of the standards by those most closely connected to student learning Ė parents and local teachers.
Now we are seeing the problems inherent in Common Core as a top-down bureaucratic system. Common Coreís one-size-fits-all standards have not sufficiently been proven to work, turning our students into lab rats for federal experimentation. Furthermore, these untested standards are expected to cost Ohio taxpayers multi-millions of dollars to implement at a time when families are already struggling to get by.
Among other costs, Ohio taxpayers will be stuck with the bill for new libraries and equipment. Because Common Core requires standardized tests, schools face the burden of buying additional computers and updating textbooks to comply with this regulation.
And itís not just the costs! Inherent to Common Core is massive intrusive data collection. Additionally, because of the push to standardize many exams, including some that private and homeschool children take, even privately educated students have reason to be concerned.
Contact your legislators and ask them to repeal Common Core! Every student is unique. Itís simply naÔve for bureaucrats to assume all children and classrooms must fit into the same mold. Instead of all the red tape, schools need to hold teachers accountable for their classrooms and allow parents to choose what institution is best for their child. Parents and teachers, who are daily involved with our children, know what individual students need to succeed and how best to reach the goal of a quality education.
For the good of our students, every concerned Ohio citizen should speak out now on the importance of repealing Common Core standards and returning education decisions to the local level where they belong. Make sure everyone you know knows the facts about Common Core. Help us take a stand against education bureaucracy!
Stay Alert Voters

Piqua, OH

#25228 Jun 16, 2013
poundsand wrote:
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Too little, too late. They should resign in shame for a breach of trust with the community.
Breaking trust isnít always intentional. Sometimes the person in authority violates the trust of someone else simply by failing to do his or her job well or accurately.
Citizens need to have confidence in those that are working for the betterment of Springboro sports.
Those parents who are paying these high pay to play fees must speak up and stand up to the Boosters Board bullies (including Tiffany Carlisle and Suzanne Edwards; and whoever is the current treasurer??) and follow the money trail through the accountability system of the by-laws and policies of the "business" agreement between the Springboro Schools BOE and the Athletic Boosters Board officials.
Tiffany Carlisle needs to bring her North Park protests and false accusations that board members are trying to push "parents out of our kid's activities" into the light of public scrutiny.
Last July the public heard from Booster board officials that the Springboro School Board had no authority over the Boosters board officials because the boosters board was an "outside business."
Many school district parents and taxpayers attending that public meeting last July disagree.
Now that we have new leadership of our Springboro Schools athletic program, our school district finally has the "missing link" needed to bring the Springboro Schools athletic program and the athletics boosters board officials together, working in cooperation in the best financial intersts of our school athletic program, instead of the old way of best financial interest of our individual sports coaches.
Waste Watchers

Piqua, OH

#25229 Jun 16, 2013
Just Watching wrote:
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Ms. Villamagna has to do something to justify that $140,000 salary.
Ms Jobe was probably just bored.
Such bully hypocrites are the likes of Ms. Villamagna, who is paid big bucks out of Taxpayers pockets to promote intimidation and ridicule of Springboro parents and our elected school board representatives. If we could get the "paid by taxpayers" political influence of the Ohio Education Association out of our children's classrooms; just think of that $140,000 being used in the best interest of our children's education. Just one bully Villamagna salary would cover the hiring of THREE good classroom teachers.
Budget first education

Piqua, OH

#25230 Jun 16, 2013
Our Children Our Schools wrote:
Why is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations in Springboro? Visit http://www.springboro.org for current negotiation information, the fiscal impact of accepting the OEA contract, and more. Stay informed, at http://www.springboro.org .
Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
TV Land

Piqua, OH

#25232 Jun 17, 2013
Budget first education wrote:
<quoted text>
Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
Wasn't it recently seen and heard during public school board meeting the false accusations (from the "Budget first education" bullies) that the board was using "controversial issues" as a distraction from the negotiations?
No need to ask this blogger for "proof" but to my understanding, one of the board members spoke the TRUTH to the TV camera during public board meeting, telling the community that the discussions of controversial issues going on in the public school board meetings have no influence on the continuing negotiations that appear to be going quite well?
That's the most up-to-date information that has been heard publicly; and so it is most helpful to have the school website to check for any updates that may be posted online.
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25233 Jun 17, 2013
ACT scoring raw scores or how many did my child get right?

An ACT score report includes scores for each of the four subject area tests (English, Mathematics, Reading, and Science) and all associated subscores (which are calculated separately).

The first step in calculating a score for a subject area test is to determine the raw score for that test. The raw score is equal to the number of questions answered correctly on that test (there is no penalty for incorrect answers). Then, the raw score converted to a scaled score between 1 and 36 using a metric that takes into account variations in difficulty among different test administrations.

Below is the percentage of correct answers for each subject and the associated scaled score .

Score English Math Reading Science Composite
36..........99.......... 99..........99..........99.... ......99
35..........99.......... 99.......... 99..........99..........99
34..........99.......... 99.......... 99..........99.......... 99
33..........97.......... 98.......... 97.......... 99..........99
32..........96.......... 97.......... 95.......... 98.......... 98
31.......... 94.......... 96.......... 93..........98.......... 97
30.......... 93.......... 94.......... 91.......... 96.......... 95
29.......... 91.......... 93.......... 87.......... 95..........93
28..........88.......... 91.......... 85.......... 93..........91
27.......... 85.......... 88.......... 82.......... 91.......... 87
26.......... 82.......... 84.......... 78.......... 88..........84
25.......... 78.......... 79.......... 75.......... 84.......... 79
24.......... 73.......... 74.......... 71.......... 77.......... 74
23.......... 68.......... 67.......... 66.......... 71.......... 68
22.......... 63.......... 61.......... 60.......... 63.......... 62
21.......... 57.......... 57.......... 54.......... 56.......... 55
20.......... 50.......... 52.......... 48..........47.......... 48
19.......... 43.......... 47.......... 42..........38.......... 41
18.......... 38.......... 41.......... 35.......... 31..........34
17.......... 33.......... 34.......... 30.......... 24..........28
16......... 29.......... 26.......... 25.......... 19..........21
15......... 24.......... 14.......... 19.......... 14..........16
14......... 18.......... 06.......... 15.......... 11..........11
13......... 14.......... 02.......... 10.......... 08..........06
12......... 11.......... 01.......... 06.......... 05..........03
11......... 09.......... 01.......... 03.......... 03..........01
10......... 04.......... 01.......... 01.......... 01..........01

According to the documents on the Transparency Project our high schoolers in 2011 scored an average of 24.5.

This puts us in solid mid 70% in all subjects, in other words a solid C.

The money for real academic scholarship dollars are in the 30's.

While we may outperform the state averages, this does not translate into real academic scholarship dollars for our children.
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#25234 Jun 17, 2013
Aside from wanting to work less, get a 20% raise in base pay, and maintain the cadillac health care program, what is the OEA proposing to do about actual student achievement that shows up on ACT and OAA tests?
Wild and Wooly Bullies

Piqua, OH

#25235 Jun 17, 2013
sheep wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, this traveling road show is a complete joke.
Lol....Badd Babb Wolves in "sheep" clothing traveling through the Boro bullying our children first is really the joke that is nothing but "wild and wooly" bully talk.
No OEA Indoctrination

Piqua, OH

#25236 Jun 17, 2013
We all want good schools and good teachers for our school children's classroom education; but, what we all need are elected school board members who will attack runaway labor costs; and not attack hard working local taxpayers who are generously supporting our teachers with job security, good wages,great compensation benefits, all within safe and comfortable working conditions. So WHY this OEA attack of "only WE support OUR teachers" war of words against Springboro Taxpayers? Why are the SOT bullies all wrapped up in themselves as the only taxpayers in Springboro who ARE "supporting our teachers?" Such "anri-social" hypocrities are these OEA/SEA union activists!
The OEA members are some of the worst people we will ever have to deal with as to radical social behavior; because to the OEA radicals they are at war with the taxpayers.
They have the destruction of America in their minds and they are terrible people because their ideology makes them corrosive. They openly use children to execute their maniacal plans for social progressive changes at the expense of society, and this defines their essence. Wars are won by taking away from the other side the will to continue fighting. The OEA attacks them directly hoping to rob them of their will to stand opposed to the unionís progressive agenda.
Missing post

Dublin, OH

#25237 Jun 17, 2013
What happened to the post about median increases between teachers and taxpayers ?
I think it was 11% increase for teachers vs 1% for taxpayers since recession began. Where did it go?
accountability

Girard, OH

#25238 Jun 17, 2013
Budget first education wrote:
<quoted text>
Just curious, how is the OEA standing in the way of negotiations? And your suggestion that we should visit the website for current negotiation information is a little disappointing since it hasn't been updated for two months. Do you know more about the negotiations?
It's not surprising Springboro's website hasn't been updated in a while. Although typically overseen/ managed by a teacher or administrator, district websites in many districts are in fact managed by I.T.-savvy high school students.

To find the answer to this question I recommend contacting any Springboro board member. School board members are obviously elected by the people, so while in office they must remain transparent and accountable to their community. Bear in mind, if you choose to contact Don Miller, you'll most certainly get an alternative response regarding the current status of board/ SEA negotiations than if you were to make contact with any of the other four.
sheep

Springboro, OH

#25239 Jun 17, 2013
accountability wrote:
<quoted text>
It's not surprising Springboro's website hasn't been updated in a while. Although typically overseen/ managed by a teacher or administrator, district websites in many districts are in fact managed by I.T.-savvy high school students.
To find the answer to this question I recommend contacting any Springboro board member. School board members are obviously elected by the people, so while in office they must remain transparent and accountable to their community. Bear in mind, if you choose to contact Don Miller, you'll most certainly get an alternative response regarding the current status of board/ SEA negotiations than if you were to make contact with any of the other four.
Or maybe there is no real progress to be reported. I'm sure certain BOE members are keeping Just Watching informed. He could probably tell you.
Good News

Piqua, OH

#25240 Jun 17, 2013
Exciting things are happening in our school district!

It's Unanimous! School Board Adopts Children's First Budget!

Check out this website blog for great news and learn why children's first budget makes sense for teachers...

and please share if you wish:
http://educatespringboro.wordpress.com/2013/0...
Find some reality

Lebanon, OH

#25241 Jun 17, 2013
If the teachers are dumb enough to strike let them. I think based upon what is reported in interest in our district is that we can fill those positions and not miss anything. There are many qualified teachers available, some have left to raise kids, change careers, or practiced in the parochial schools. Thinking that only new teachers would want those high paying jobs is not reality. Also thinking that the only teachers available are working for us now is also not reality. Some of these teachers working for us now will find that the substitutes are better than the teachers they were replacing.
Find some reality

Lebanon, OH

#25242 Jun 17, 2013
Missing post wrote:
What happened to the post about median increases between teachers and taxpayers ?
I think it was 11% increase for teachers vs 1% for taxpayers since recession began. Where did it go?
Where did this information come from? Teachers pay up 11% since the recession began?
My math is rusty but that still looks like 11 times what the community is getting. Why are they going on strike?

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