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Cincinnati, OH

#22282 Oct 5, 2012
junk food nation wrote:
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pop and junk food - profit margin A
tee shirts / sweats - profit margin D
High junk food & pop profit margin is the primary reason why wrestling vending machines filled with garbage out of our schools has been such an arduous task.
Have vending machines filled with garbage been "wrestled" out of our schools? Don't think so.
Wouldn't that require the arduous task of prying open Malone's treasure chest of coins in the principal's fund?
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE

United States

#22283 Oct 5, 2012
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.

Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Down in the Boro

Cincinnati, OH

#22284 Oct 5, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Sounds like you think the system works best if everybody's household budget is spread out and you get to "reset our priorities" to meet your greedy self-interest agenda??
Don't think that's going to happen.
Guess the joke's on you for getting stuck in a joker town.
No embarrassment on us down in the boro.

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the jokes on ewe

Dayton, OH

#22285 Oct 5, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit.
Hey, Barack! Thanks for stopping by to make this unannounced 'Boro small town campaign stop. Now, get the fudge out!
Can Not Win

Cincinnati, OH

#22286 Oct 5, 2012
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.

Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.

According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.

However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”

The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”

The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”

Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.

Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.

Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”

Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.

Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.

He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.

“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”

Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.

“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.

Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.

“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”

Neither Lolli nor Grigsby could be reached for comment.

On Tuesday, Grigsby’s case was referred to Magistrate Judge Karen L. Litkovitz.

Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
OMG yellow jourlism

Cincinnati, OH

#22287 Oct 6, 2012
another waste of taxpayers money - schools can and do "offer" positions and withdraw them - she knows that and this is another Yellow paper article from the bully's of the boro community. the position is only dependant on the BOE - who got the job - if its a black lady they won't even get to steps of courthouse- the only way that she has to have case heard is she has written proof - which seriously doubt.
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
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OMG yellow jourlism

Cincinnati, OH

#22288 Oct 6, 2012
read the "houche act (sp?) " for public employees which teachers are part. she doesn't even pass the 1st sentance - we get a copy every 4 years
idiot detector

Dayton, OH

#22289 Oct 6, 2012
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”
Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.
“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.
Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.
“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”
Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
Anderson..."...hoping it's not for political reasons"...that's rich coming from " MR.I Wantabe.."
Boro Bad Apple

Cincinnati, OH

#22290 Oct 6, 2012
We all remember NFSS babble gal, Tammy Grigsby, jumping up at the board meeting when the school superintendent resigned; trying to blame and shame our entire school district for causing her to lose her king of the babble bullies, David Baker.
We all remember that Tammy Grigsby's son led Malone's Youth Union community wide disrespectful protest against school district authority during March 2012; with the SEA Youth Union group threatening school board members with voting them out of office (once they became old enough to vote). We all remember that Tammy Grigsby among other of Baker's NFSS gals (including Lisa Babb and Tina Schrof) have received supplement contracts, which have been approved in public board meetings. So now, Tammy Grigsby seeks to "hurt our school children" by slapping on an expensive law suit against school district taxpayers, because she thinks she should be hired as boro bully teacher for "our children's future?
Sure glad our Springboro Schools didn't get stuck with Tammy Grigsby, who oviously is the bad apple that disires spilling her rot throughout the whole
barrel.

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SOS to BOE

Cincinnati, OH

#22291 Oct 6, 2012
Can Not Win wrote:
Tammy Grigsby, a Springboro resident who teaches at Middletown High School, is suing the Springboro Board of Education in U.S. District Court for alledgedly withdrawing a teaching position offered to her this summer “due to and in retaliation for” her political activity and affiliation with a pro-levy group.
Named in the federal civil rights action are the Springboro school board and individuals who were board members at the time of Grigsby’s application, including Kelly Kohls, Don Miller, David Petroni, James Rigano and Scott Anderson.
According to her lawsuit, filed Sept. 28, Grigsby applied for a teaching position this summer at Springboro High School. She went through two rounds of interviews and on June 12 “was told by the assistant principal that she had been selected and was being offered the position as a math teacher at Springboro High School,” according to her complaint.
However, a few days later, Grigsby reportedly was told by the assistant principal that “we have a problem.”
The lawsuit asserts that Gene Lolli, then Springboro superintendent, told Grigsby that he had conducted a third set of interviews at the direction of the school board,“particularly the former vice president (now acting president) Kelly Kohls, who represented that she spoke for the school board.”
The interviews were conducted, according to what Grigsby said she was told by Lolli,“to legitimize the withdrawal of the offer to Ms. Grigsby and conceal the fact that Ms. Grigsby was being denied the position for which she had been selected because of her First Amendment protected activity (i.e. her public comments and work with Neighbors for Springboro Schools.)”
Neighbors for Springboro Schools is a group that advocates for the passage of school levies and for school-related concerns in Springboro.
Board members Petroni and Rigano are two of the founders of Educate Springboro, and Kohls is a founding member of Educate Ohio. These groups draw attention to school funding and fiscal conservancy. Kohls also is president of the Warren County Tea Party.
Kohls said Friday this was the first she had heard about the lawsuit. When asked if Grigsby’s claims were true, Kohls said:“I can’t answer that. I never heard that claim.”
Kohls said board members were not presented with Grigsby nor her application this summer. Kohls said she did know that Grigsby was associated with the Neighbors for Springboro Schools group, since Grigsby had “attempted to conduct a forum for candidates,” in 2009.
Anderson, who has since resigned as president of the school board, also said he was unaware of the lawsuit when contacted Friday.
He said it would not have been protocol for the board to see Grigsby’s application, and he did not hear or witness a conversation about Grigsby while on the board.
“I leave it up to our administration to put forth good people, but legally we can say no to anybody,” Anderson said of the board.“Hopefully it’s for the right reasons and not for political reasons.”
Members of the Ohio School Boards Association said school boards are not supposed to be partisan, but political concerns do surface.
“All of the issues swirling around levies have political dimensions, not partisan dimensions,” said Damon Asbury, director of legislative services for the OSBA.
Rick Lewis, OSBA executive director, added that potential political differences should not play a role in whether a teacher is hired.
“You shouldn’t be required to check your freedom of speech and your political views at the door,” Lewis said.“They shouldn’t be conditions of employment.”
Neither Lolli nor Grigsby could be reached for comment.
On Tuesday, Grigsby’s case was referred to Magistrate Judge Karen L. Litkovitz.
Grigsby is seeking “compensatory damages, economic losses, punitive damages, declaratory and injunctive relief and reasonable attorney fees and costs in this matter.”
Please Stand firm in Saving Our Schools from hiring teachers like Tammy Grigsby.

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Court Jester

Cincinnati, OH

#22292 Oct 6, 2012
THIS TOWN IS A JOKE wrote:
Most of you blast the deal that your BOE gave to SYB but in the same breath think that cutting pay to participate fees by the BOE was a great concession to the taxpayers. The hypocrisy that is typed on this blog is quite funny.
Why don't each of you present your bank statements to the BOE and the person with the most money can help pay our deficit. For those of you are afraid to show your bank statement ormour embarrased because you don't have much money in your account, maybe we can find someone on this blog to help you manage your money because some think they would be better at it than others.
Shouldn't we just model our behavior the boro sports coach way
and just get "lawyered up" refusing access to our bank statements
like Holtrey, Benjamin, Wilhite and Pelfrey?

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thanks Kelly

Dayton, OH

#22293 Oct 6, 2012
SOS to BOE wrote:
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Please Stand firm in Saving Our Schools from hiring teachers like Tammy Grigsby.
Not only did Tammy Grigsby work with NFSS for their misguided pro levy efforts but she also put time in toward last fall's Babb for Boro campaign. Before that election a small coven including Grigsby & Babb organized to knock on doors and canvass the neighborhood with Babb door hangers.

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an ally

Dayton, OH

#22294 Oct 6, 2012
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.

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swee pea

Dayton, OH

#22295 Oct 6, 2012
an ally wrote:
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.
If Kelly Kohls cut herself from your frequent inbox list I'd be willing to bet it was because you stopped being optimistic / positive. c'mon...reply "yes", because you & I know this is the truth.
Boro Belief

Cincinnati, OH

#22296 Oct 6, 2012
an ally wrote:
Kelly better start remembering those who have backed her all the while exposing themselves to public ridicule...she can be forgetful...I KNOW. Kelly, better call and thank those who have helped you.
As for me and my household of voters, we believe that Kelly's record of public service to our schools and community speaks for itself. Thanks, Kelly, for standing firm on strong principles of the board's new philosophy of children first budgeting. And we believe the continuing personal and legal attacks on Kelly are coming from a hostile union activists group in their continuing efforts to discredit a Springboro school board representative who does not conform to OSBA expectations.

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an ally

Dayton, OH

#22297 Oct 6, 2012
swee pea wrote:
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If Kelly Kohls cut herself from your frequent inbox list I'd be willing to bet it was because you stopped being optimistic / positive. c'mon...reply "yes", because you & I know this is the truth.
you couldn't be more wrong...and BTW...stop drinkin the kool-aid, you brain cells might recover....good grief..what zombies...I supported your god. all I asked for was recognition of my support. if I don't get it, i'll be one less supporter, somethng Kohl has neeed before.

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DDN IGNORES SPRINGBORO

Cincinnati, OH

#22298 Oct 6, 2012
Football that is.
https://www.facebook.com/SpringboroOhio
Some valid points. In fairness, the DDN can't cover everybody the way the schools want. But they do seem to give the Panthers less love than you might think.
Court Jester

Cincinnati, OH

#22300 Oct 7, 2012
an ally wrote:
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you couldn't be more wrong...and BTW...stop drinkin the kool-aid, you brain cells might recover....good grief..what zombies...I supported your god. all I asked for was recognition of my support. if I don't get it, i'll be one less supporter, somethng Kohl has neeed before.
Sounds like somebody wants a pity party--
well, it's a pity that you are so petty feeling sorry that you did not get your "five minutes of fame" for "electing Kohl" in November 2009. When you sacrificed "your support" did you get a verbal agreement that you would get "public recognition payback?"
Now you're all "soured up" and threatening to withhold "your support" next time around if an elected official does not "bend to your will?" Your case in the "boro courts of silliness" is dismissed because of your "no credibility."

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Grapevine

Cincinnati, OH

#22301 Oct 7, 2012
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Anderson..."...hoping it's not for political reasons"...that's rich coming from " MR.I Wantabe.."
Wasn't Neighbors for Springboro Schools president, Tammy Grigsby, one of the levy ladies who allegedly stormed into BOE member Scott Anderson's bank declaring financial ruin on the bank if Scott Anderson did not vote for putting the fifth unnecessary school levy on the ballot?

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jimmy cricket

Dayton, OH

#22302 Oct 7, 2012
Court Jester wrote:
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Sounds like somebody wants a pity party--
well, it's a pity that you are so petty feeling sorry that you did not get your "five minutes of fame" for "electing Kohl" in November 2009. When you sacrificed "your support" did you get a verbal agreement that you would get "public recognition payback?"
Now you're all "soured up" and threatening to withhold "your support" next time around if an elected official does not "bend to your will?" Your case in the "boro courts of silliness" is dismissed because of your "no credibility."
you people are just as bad as the pro levy people...way over the top like some like of cult. get over yourselves

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