Township voters behind Springboro sch...

Township voters behind Springboro school levy failures

There are 49 comments on the Dayton Daily News story from Nov 6, 2010, titled Township voters behind Springboro school levy failures. In it, Dayton Daily News reports that:

Sylvia Kellner stands on the corner of Remick Blvd and State Route 741 in Springboro, holding a sign to encourage drivers to vote for the Springboro school levy on Nov 2. Staff photo by Ron Alvey History of Springboro levy vote counts since 2008 Patterns of school levy voting in Springboro precincts Updated 6:34 PM Saturday, November 6, 2010 ...

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Yes voter

Dayton, OH

#21 Jul 7, 2012
Sad
sick in springboro wrote:
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I'm with you!!! My child hasn't gotten a bus in the last three yrs.... guess what... I'm a no voter. Although I think it is irresponsible of this STATE not to require busing for high schoolers and Springboro continues to bus families that are within 2 miles ( which is also not required by the state ) I"M STILL A NO VOTER!!!!!! Don't forget to address the parents that support the levy just so the pay-to-play fees can be reduced. It's supposed to be about our kids EDUCATION! Levies are always promoted.. it's for the kids.. but we all know it's for SPORTS, PENSIONS and SALARIES!!!!!! Our kids are truly on the end of list.( believe me, if the levy had passed, there still wouldn't be h.s. busing.)
This BOE needs to make this district accountable!!!!!!!
told ya so

Fairborn, OH

#22 Jul 7, 2012
the city...agenbroad and the township...wade..are locked at the lips....er...I mean hip...two spoiled peas in a pod, and yet the area thinks of them as gods....goes to show ya how ignorant many are in this community.
Twp resident

Dayton, OH

#23 Jul 8, 2012
BoroMommy wrote:
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I agree with you that this is how it should work, however it is not the way it actually does work. When the district levies a tax, they are authorized to collect a certain dollar amount. Once that amount is collected, they have to come back for a new levy (a renewal). When more people move into the district, it actually splits the pie down so that each individual household is paying less. Many times it is hard to see the reduction because other things change in your individual tax bill. We've been in our house 7 years, and our yearly property taxes have gone down about $1000 in that time (some of that reduction is due to a reduction in our appraised value, but about 70% of it is due to levy failures combined with growth). So when the district has growth, it collects the same amount of money from the taxpayers, but has additional students to serve.
Combine that with the funding cuts that the State is coming out with every year, and it can create a need for additional levies.
You have some valid points. However a key point that one has to bear in mind is the number of new students entering the district has dipped markedly over the past few years. What does this decrease in the district's growth rate mean? It means a somewhat decreased need for new resources such as the hiring of new teachers, the purchasing of new school buses, the construction of new school buildings, etc. Whenever the student population numbers change in such a way as this, of course the funding dollars change. The district budget has to be reevaluated and reforecasted by the BOE. Regarding the BOE, it feels good to know Springboro schools has generally a more capable group of people, at least as compared to just a few years ago.
Booster shot

Dayton, OH

#24 Jul 8, 2012
told ya so wrote:
the city...agenbroad and the township...wade..are locked at the lips....er...I mean hip...two spoiled peas in a pod, and yet the area thinks of them as gods....goes to show ya how ignorant many are in this community.
It'll be interesting to find out if certain local high profile political figures will or won't be connected to a supposed investigation surrounding a mysterious $130+ K monetary donation to Springboro Boosters.
Question

Dayton, OH

#25 Jul 8, 2012
Twp resident wrote:
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You have some valid points. However a key point that one has to bear in mind is the number of new students entering the district has dipped markedly over the past few years. What does this decrease in the district's growth rate mean? It means a somewhat decreased need for new resources such as the hiring of new teachers, the purchasing of new school buses, the construction of new school buildings, etc. Whenever the student population numbers change in such a way as this, of course the funding dollars change. The district budget has to be reevaluated and reforecasted by the BOE. Regarding the BOE, it feels good to know Springboro schools has generally a more capable group of people, at least as compared to just a few years ago.
Why do we have class sizes with 30 students this coming year?
told ya so

Fairborn, OH

#26 Jul 8, 2012
Booster shot wrote:
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It'll be interesting to find out if certain local high profile political figures will or won't be connected to a supposed investigation surrounding a mysterious $130+ K monetary donation to Springboro Boosters.
probably wade and agenbroad..had a good night at the poker games they have been known to have...high rollers, both
Twp resident

Dayton, OH

#27 Jul 8, 2012
Question wrote:
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Why do we have class sizes with 30 students this coming year?
Hmm.....Let's see!
Now referencing my 80's-vintage yearbooks....
..........
Yup! I thought so!
Life on Earth DOESN'T come to an end with 30 students in a public school classroom!
Now, Question, would you like to discuss and debate the end of the world as we know it & subpar parenting skills?
crazy

Dayton, OH

#28 Jul 8, 2012
Twp resident wrote:
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Hmm.....Let's see!
Now referencing my 80's-vintage yearbooks....
..........
Yup! I thought so!
Life on Earth DOESN'T come to an end with 30 students in a public school classroom!
Now, Question, would you like to discuss and debate the end of the world as we know it & subpar parenting skills?
Still living in the 80's, let me guess, you turned out ok!
uncle eddie

Fairborn, OH

#29 Jul 8, 2012
drove by the township office today...what a dump...with all the cash they have, you would think they could at least water the lawn and rocks on the side of st rt 73..what about it eddie? Or are you spending all the townships' money defending you and your cronies in court?
Just Watching

Cleveland, OH

#30 Jul 10, 2012
There are two main types of operating tax levies:
&#9251; Regular operating levy — This levy seeks a certain millage rate (the taxation rate) that will generate funds either for a specific period of time or on a continuing basis.(Most are continuing.)
A regular levy does provide increased revenue when new construction occurs within the district (assuming the construction is not abated), but the millage rate is rolled back every three years when property is reappraised for inflationary increases or increased for deflationary reasons. In school districts such as Dayton that are mature or “built out,” there is little growth from new construction, so levies of this type essentially provide no inflationary revenue growth.
&#9251; Emergency levy — An emergency levy is for a specific amount of money, with the millage rate set annually to collect this amount. By Ohio law, an emergency levy cannot last longer than five years and must be renewed or it will expire.
The amount of money collected with this levy does not grow, even with new construction. Renewing an emergency levy does not increase property owners’ taxes.
injustice

Dayton, OH

#31 Jul 11, 2012
uncle eddie wrote:
drove by the township office today...what a dump...with all the cash they have, you would think they could at least water the lawn and rocks on the side of st rt 73..what about it eddie? Or are you spending all the townships' money defending you and your cronies in court?
What a shame. Respectively, Clearcreek Twp OH and Springboro school district is the epitome of public sector rich man, poor man.
uncle eddie

Dayton, OH

#32 Jul 12, 2012
injustice wrote:
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What a shame. Respectively, Clearcreek Twp OH and Springboro school district is the epitome of public sector rich man, poor man.
speaking of rich MEN, betcha Agenbroad will throw more union money into Wade's reelection coffers inspite of the fact Wade has more money to throw around than the mayor. I will vote for Anspach and anyone else who has the guts to run...want Wade GONE! Tired of these two corrupt politicians .
water

Springboro, OH

#33 Jul 12, 2012
uncle eddie wrote:
drove by the township office today...what a dump...with all the cash they have, you would think they could at least water the lawn and rocks on the side of st rt 73..what about it eddie? Or are you spending all the townships' money defending you and your cronies in court?
Water the rocks...that's a good thing to be doing.....

And if they did water the lawn and rocks, you would complain about them wasting money on that too.
uncle eddie

Dayton, OH

#34 Jul 12, 2012
water wrote:
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Water the rocks...that's a good thing to be doing.....
And if they did water the lawn and rocks, you would complain about them wasting money on that too.
ahhh..I SEE that you're a wade groupie. Too bad you've been brainwashed into believing in that corrupt group . Also too bad you don't recognize sarcasm in my previous post.

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#35 Jul 15, 2012
water wrote:
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Water the rocks...that's a good thing to be doing.....
And if they did water the lawn and rocks, you would complain about them wasting money on that too.
thank goodness for "no tax jack". He is one of a very few that has the focus to key on the corrupt politicians and administrative leader for what they are, without the muddling of the school issues. that's one reason the township crooks get away with what they do....too few are watching them.
hand me a kleenex

Dayton, OH

#36 Jul 15, 2012
NABF wrote:
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thank goodness for "no tax jack". He is one of a very few that has the focus to key on the corrupt politicians and administrative leader for what they are, without the muddling of the school issues. that's one reason the township crooks get away with what they do....too few are watching them.
Hey, did you know "Meoff" is no tax Jack's surname?

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#37 Jul 16, 2012
hand me a kleenex wrote:
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Hey, did you know "Meoff" is no tax Jack's surname?
your point being???
water

Springboro, OH

#38 Jul 16, 2012
uncle eddie wrote:
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ahhh..I SEE that you're a wade groupie. Too bad you've been brainwashed into believing in that corrupt group . Also too bad you don't recognize sarcasm in my previous post.
No, not a groupie at all - just someone who can't stand people that complain all the time about everything and choose to be a part of the problem, not part of the solution.
uncle eddie

Dayton, OH

#39 Jul 16, 2012
well, then you don't know me at all. I have served in local politics and tried to affect change..like leading a mule to water...can't make him drink if he doesn't want to.
UR not so literate

Dayton, OH

#40 Jul 16, 2012
uncle eddie wrote:
well, then you don't know me at all. I have served in local politics and tried to affect change...
Oh really? Wow!! Are you sure that in your past as an area politician that you didn't attempt to... EFFECT... change?

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