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Unprofessional activity in Springboro elementary school

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Susan B

Trenton, OH

#1 Oct 14, 2010
How many people are aware of the after school tutoring being done at a Springboro Elementary? This Math tutoring involves a teacher charging $15.00 per student for the hour after school on Wednesday and Thursday. The problem with this is that these are her students and it is a conflict of interest for her to tutor them for money. It is also unprofessional because it is her job to teach these students during class time.
Let's look at this activity more closely to see why it is unprofessional. The teacher commented at a meeting with parents that she would be moving pretty fast in math and some students may lag behind this year. In order to make sure this doesn't happen she would offer tutoring after school for $15.00 an hour. The fact is that if she is moving too fast for some students she needs to slow down. After all, it is her job to teach so that her students (all of them) learn. There are several questions that come up because of this situation that demonstrate the problem with this tutoring. One question is: If a child is in the tutoring does the teacher wait to help him/her after school? Also, what if the students come to the tutoring, pay the money each week and still don't do well in math? Would this mean that the tutoring was not successful? Should the parents get their money back?
If you look at the size of the groups you would also see that extra help for each student is not possible in one hour. Parents are not getting what they are paying for if a group has over five students in it. Even with five students in a group the individual time for each student is, well you can do the math. The fact that worksheets are being used points to a lack of one-on-one tutoring. One group last week had 10 students in it (reported by one of the students). Is there no limit to the number of students in a group?
I have been in education over 25 years and have never heard of a teacher being allowed to tutor his/her own students for money. The teacher should know this is unprofessional, the principal should know this is unprofessional and the superintendent should know this is unprofessional. The superintendent was contacted and is well aware this is happening. How is it that a "School of Excellence" has no idea of what constitutes professionalism?
Thanks

Cincinnati, OH

#2 Oct 14, 2010
Thanks Kelly for the info!
totally anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Oct 14, 2010
Susan B wrote:
How many people are aware of the after school tutoring being done at a Springboro Elementary? This Math tutoring involves a teacher charging $15.00 per student for the hour after school on Wednesday and Thursday. The problem with this is that these are her students and it is a conflict of interest for her to tutor them for money. It is also unprofessional because it is her job to teach these students during class time.
Let's look at this activity more closely to see why it is unprofessional. The teacher commented at a meeting with parents that she would be moving pretty fast in math and some students may lag behind this year. In order to make sure this doesn't happen she would offer tutoring after school for $15.00 an hour. The fact is that if she is moving too fast for some students she needs to slow down. After all, it is her job to teach so that her students (all of them) learn. There are several questions that come up because of this situation that demonstrate the problem with this tutoring. One question is: If a child is in the tutoring does the teacher wait to help him/her after school? Also, what if the students come to the tutoring, pay the money each week and still don't do well in math? Would this mean that the tutoring was not successful? Should the parents get their money back?
If you look at the size of the groups you would also see that extra help for each student is not possible in one hour. Parents are not getting what they are paying for if a group has over five students in it. Even with five students in a group the individual time for each student is, well you can do the math. The fact that worksheets are being used points to a lack of one-on-one tutoring. One group last week had 10 students in it (reported by one of the students). Is there no limit to the number of students in a group?
I have been in education over 25 years and have never heard of a teacher being allowed to tutor his/her own students for money. The teacher should know this is unprofessional, the principal should know this is unprofessional and the superintendent should know this is unprofessional. The superintendent was contacted and is well aware this is happening. How is it that a "School of Excellence" has no idea of what constitutes professionalism?
Unprofessional activity, you say?

I thought for sure this thread would be about the weird late evening & weekend games of musical chairs...short skirts, large (adult beverage?) coolers & sometimes, very scary motorcycle-riding people randomly coming in & out of Five Point Elementary's front door entrance!
Racial slurs

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Oct 14, 2010
totally anonymous wrote:
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Unprofessional activity, you say?
I thought for sure this thread would be about the weird late evening & weekend games of musical chairs...short skirts, large (adult beverage?) coolers & sometimes, very scary motorcycle-riding people randomly coming in & out of Five Point Elementary's front door entrance!
how's that any worse then sonny thomas showing up to help make our schools a better place? and guess who is was friends with!
More anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#5 Oct 14, 2010
totally anonymous wrote:
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Unprofessional activity, you say?
I thought for sure this thread would be about the weird late evening & weekend games of musical chairs...short skirts, large (adult beverage?) coolers & sometimes, very scary motorcycle-riding people randomly coming in & out of Five Point Elementary's front door entrance!
short skirts, coolers, and motorcycle riders you say? now golly gee hem lined should be past the knees at all times or it's just sinful and promotes lustful heathen activity! coolers too? large ones? parents stop bringing those class drinks chilled in a rolling cooler. little Connor can drink right out that there drinkin fountain! large coolers are sinful and promote gossip! motorcycles? can u get a witness? all motorcycles are sinful-even those helpin to shield military funerals from protestors! everyone knows only thugs and degenerates ride those there motorcycles! you haven't even brought up the subject of the minorities I see runnin round here now! Gasp! what is the b-o-r-o being reduced to? different colors? different modes of transportation? different hem lengths? after 3pm m-f anyone has to be committing sinful acts in school!

sounds like there's a very creepy creep peeping in and watching the school at all hours. parents and teachers be vigilant!
A Witness

Cincinnati, OH

#6 Oct 14, 2010
More anonymous wrote:
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short skirts, coolers, and motorcycle riders you say? now golly gee hem lined should be past the knees at all times or it's just sinful and promotes lustful heathen activity! coolers too? large ones? parents stop bringing those class drinks chilled in a rolling cooler. little Connor can drink right out that there drinkin fountain! large coolers are sinful and promote
gossip! motorcycles? can u get a witness? all motorcycles are sinful-even those helpin to shield military funerals from protestors! everyone knows only thugs and degenerates ride those there motorcycles! you haven't even brought up the subject of the minorities I see runnin round here now! Gasp! what is the b-o-r-o being reduced to? different colors? different modes of transportation?
different hem lengths? after 3pm m-f anyone has to be committing sinful acts in school!
sounds like there's a very creepy creep peeping in and watching the school at all hours. parents and teachers be vigilant!
AMEN! Wonder if he/she is watching with binoculars or hiding in the bushes! Maybe the police need to drive by more often - sounds like someone is spending way too much time watching our schools and I hope they aren't obsessing over our kids!
What school which teacher

Cincinnati, OH

#7 Oct 14, 2010
Susan B wrote:
How many people are aware of the after school tutoring being done at a Springboro Elementary? This Math tutoring involves a teacher charging $15.00 per student for the hour after school on Wednesday and Thursday. The problem with this is that these are her students and it is a conflict of interest for her to tutor them for money. It is also unprofessional because it is her job to teach these students during class
time.
Let's look at this activity more closely to see why it is unprofessional. The teacher commented at a meeting with parents that she would be moving pretty fast in math and some students may lag behind this year. In order to make sure this doesn't happen she would offer tutoring after school for $15.00 an hour. The fact is that if she is moving too
fast for some students she needs to slow down. After all, it is her job to teach so that her students (all of them) learn. There are several questions that come up because of this situation that demonstrate the problem with this tutoring. One question is: If a child is in the tutoring does the teacher wait to help him/her after school? Also, what if the
students come to the tutoring, pay the money each week and still don't do well in math? Would this mean that the tutoring was not successful? Should the parents get their money back?
If you look at the size of the groups you would also see that extra help for each student is not possible in one hour. Parents
are not getting what they are paying for if a group has over five students in it. Even with five students in a group the individual time for each student is, well you can do the math. The fact that worksheets are being used points to a lack of one-on-one tutoring. One group last week had 10 students in it (reported by one of the students). Is there no limit to the number of students in a group?
I have been in education over 25 years and have never heard of a teacher being allowed to tutor his/her own students for money. The teacher should know this is unprofessional, the principal should know this is unprofessional and the superintendent should know this is unprofessional. The superintendent was contacted and is well
aware this is happening. How is it that a "School of Excellence" has no idea of what constitutes professionalism?
Sounds like some pretty hefty accusations. I sent an email to the superintendent to get the scoop as well. Which school and which teacher?
Patriot Post

AOL

#8 Oct 14, 2010
Is the union allowed to charge for "after school help" for a student? I guess so, because the coaches are allowed to charge for "summer camp." They use the school facilities and keep the dough ray meee. No questions asked. A real nice bonus and then the kids that participate are sure to be picked for the "team."
Hater

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Oct 14, 2010
Patriot Post wrote:
Is the union allowed to charge for "after school help" for a student? I guess so, because the coaches are allowed to charge for "summer camp." They use the school facilities and keep the dough ray meee. No questions asked. A real nice bonus and then the kids that participate are sure to be picked for the "team."
I know who your son is and I know why you're against any sports programs. There wasn't enough ice cream bribes in the world that was ever going to make him a ball player. Let him be. All boys don't have to be jocks. Parents shouldn't push sports down the throats of boys. There is nothing wrong with the arts. Nothing.

Are you suggesting coach holtrey is doing something inappropriate with the little dribblers camp? Your clarification please.
What school which teacher

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Oct 14, 2010
What school which teacher wrote:
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Sounds like some pretty hefty accusations. I sent an email to the superintendent to get the scoop as well. Which school and which teacher?
Haven't seen a response to this yet. Is this a dirty anti tax anti levy ploy? If not put or shut up and tell us who you claim is being so inappropriate!
Reality Check

Cincinnati, OH

#11 Oct 14, 2010
Patriot Post wrote:
Is the union allowed to charge for "after school help" for a student? I guess so, because the coaches are allowed to charge for "summer camp." They use the school facilities and keep the dough ray meee. No questions asked. A real nice bonus and then the kids that participate are sure to be picked for the "team."
The money generated by summer sports camps does not go to the coaches. It goes to help support the teams (buy equipment, etc.)
totally anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#12 Oct 14, 2010
More anonymous wrote:
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short skirts, coolers, and motorcycle riders you say? now golly gee hem lined should be past the knees at all times or it's just sinful and promotes lustful heathen activity! coolers too? large ones? parents stop bringing those class drinks chilled in a rolling cooler. little Connor can drink right out that there drinkin fountain! large coolers are sinful and promote gossip! motorcycles? can u get a witness? all motorcycles are sinful-even those helpin to shield military funerals from protestors! everyone knows only thugs and degenerates ride those there motorcycles! you haven't even brought up the subject of the minorities I see runnin round here now! Gasp! what is the b-o-r-o being reduced to? different colors? different modes of transportation? different hem lengths? after 3pm m-f anyone has to be committing sinful acts in school!
sounds like there's a very creepy creep peeping in and watching the school at all hours. parents and teachers be vigilant!
Hey, if you define "creepy" as driving by a school building on the way to or from wherever & taking mental notes of such oddities, then please, never become part of a neighborhood watch!
More anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#13 Oct 15, 2010
totally anonymous wrote:
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Hey, if you define "creepy" as driving by a school building on the way to or from wherever & taking mental notes of such oddities, then please, never become part of a neighborhood watch!
I define creepy as someone that's obviously running a campaign of smear by your discussion trying to get others to believe your innuendo in your posts. Large coolers? If you're just driving by how do you assume there are adult beverages? Pot stirring that's how. Short hemlines? It's pretty far from the road to the school-you must have been craning your neck and again making assumptions to try to stir the pot. scary motorcycle riders? what constitutes scary? the motorcycles themselves? Hells Angels drinking their adult beverages from their large coolers while they wear short skirts and invade the elementary school after school hours you say? Get a life. You know exactly the drama you thought you were going to start. That very dirty attempt makes people like me understand people like you sit around to fabricate dirt in your attempts to plant seeds of distrust. It's backfiring on you. You are creepy and I again warn parents be vigilant this doesn't seem normal and your explanation of innocently driving by makes your posts feel even more creepy. The police should perform more drive bys to ensure you aren't creeping around watching the kids or the mothers in short skirts too closely!
totally anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Oct 15, 2010
More anonymous wrote:
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I define creepy as someone that's obviously running a campaign of smear by your discussion trying to get others to believe your innuendo in your posts. Large coolers? If you're just driving by how do you assume there are adult beverages? Pot stirring that's how. Short hemlines? It's pretty far from the road to the school-you must have been craning your neck and again making assumptions to try to stir the pot. scary motorcycle riders? what constitutes scary? the motorcycles themselves? Hells Angels drinking their adult beverages from their large coolers while they wear short skirts and invade the elementary school after school hours you say? Get a life. You know exactly the drama you thought you were going to start. That very dirty attempt makes people like me understand people like you sit around to fabricate dirt in your attempts to plant seeds of distrust. It's backfiring on you. You are creepy and I again warn parents be vigilant this doesn't seem normal and your explanation of innocently driving by makes your posts feel even more creepy. The police should perform more drive bys to ensure you aren't creeping around watching the kids or the mothers in short skirts too closely!
Wow! Hey M.A, I hope you satiated yourself in some way with those less than useless keystrokes!
M A back

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Oct 15, 2010
totally anonymous wrote:
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Wow! Hey M.A, I hope you satiated yourself in some way with those less than useless keystrokes!
I have. Very much. Thanks for asking. I do believe additional patrols will occur so rest assured no one will be running up the utilities with drunken harley davidson riders in short skirts. Your keen observation has been recognized. Thanks for coming out.
Boro parent

Springfield, OH

#16 Oct 15, 2010
This after-school tutoring is occuring in a classroom at Five Points...I have heard first hand from a concerned parent who has a child in the class. I know that teachers often tutor on the side for extra income, but something about this does not seem right.
Contact the school

Cincinnati, OH

#17 Oct 15, 2010
Boro parent wrote:
This after-school tutoring is occuring in a classroom at Five Points...I have heard first hand from a concerned parent who has a child in the class. I know that teachers often tutor on the side for extra income, but something about this does not seem right.
if you think something isn't right why not contact someone in the schools that can sort it out instead of blogging about it?
totally anonymous

Cincinnati, OH

#18 Oct 15, 2010
M A back wrote:
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I have. Very much. Thanks for asking. I do believe additional patrols will occur so rest assured no one will be running up the utilities with drunken harley davidson riders in short skirts. Your keen observation has been recognized. Thanks for coming out.
You're very welcome!
And I sincerely hope because of this communication any further late hours or weekend impromptu parties involving only God knows who come to an abrupt end.
No one wants to see that sort of activity going on in & around public property.
Keep ur friends out

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Oct 15, 2010
totally anonymous wrote:
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You're very welcome!
And I sincerely hope because of this communication any further late hours or weekend impromptu parties involving only God knows who come to an abrupt end.
No one wants to see that sort of activity going on in & around public property.
Yes God forbid there's any after school musicals or plays! Ye gads! Sinful!
totally ananymous

Cincinnati, OH

#20 Oct 17, 2010
Keep ur friends out wrote:
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Yes God forbid there's any after school musicals or plays! Ye gads! Sinful!
Fine.
Whatever your twisted imagination wants to believe is perfectly OK with me.

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