Springboro schools to seek $5.9 milli...

Springboro schools to seek $5.9 million, five-year levy

There are 13 comments on the Dayton Daily News story from Jun 22, 2010, titled Springboro schools to seek $5.9 million, five-year levy. In it, Dayton Daily News reports that:

The Springboro school board on Tuesday, June 22, took a major step toward asking voters - who have rejected four consecutive levies - for additional taxes in the November election.

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November vengeance

Cincinnati, OH

#1 Jun 29, 2010
"The Springboro school board on Tuesday, June 22, took a major step toward asking voters - who have rejected four consecutive levies - for additional taxes in the November election."

I say, bring it on!

The already severely overburdened taxpayers of this district are MORE THAN ready to take down an ill-timed levy attempt #5, such as this would be!

An integral part of the solution to all of this is a pay & benefits freeze, across the board, for ALL salaried district employees for the next two years.
For many lower level salaried positions that are in essence islands upon themselves in that they require little to no delegation of duty, pay CUTS need to be seriously considered!

But of course, these things will never happen so long as the socialist teachers union is out there scratching & clawing away for their constituents.
Boro too long

Dayton, OH

#2 Jun 29, 2010
I'm prepared for a no vote. The rest of the country hasn't had a decent raise in at least 5 years and we all have to pay out of pocket for our insurance. Noting in life is free for the rest of us. Sorry.
Tell it like it is

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Jun 30, 2010
Kudos to the Oakwood School Board for waiting and not trying to sneak their levy in under the radar like ours did.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/community...

OAKWOOD Oakwood City Schools leaders delayed their first vote on a November school levy because only three of the five Board of Education members were present for the board meeting Tuesday.

When district Treasurer Kevin Philo learned just before the 5:30 p.m. meeting that there were two absences, he checked the Ohio School Law Manual, and discovered that an operating levy vote requires a two-thirds vote of all members, or at least four votes in this case.
November vengeance

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Jun 30, 2010
Tell it like it is wrote:
Kudos to the Oakwood School Board for waiting and not trying to sneak their levy in under the radar like ours did.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/community...
OAKWOOD Oakwood City Schools leaders delayed their first vote on a November school levy because only three of the five Board of Education members were present for the board meeting Tuesday.
When district Treasurer Kevin Philo learned just before the 5:30 p.m. meeting that there were two absences, he checked the Ohio School Law Manual, and discovered that an operating levy vote requires a two-thirds vote of all members, or at least four votes in this case.
Do you really believe that the 2 absent Oakwood school board members didn't have any idea that the levy vote would be on the agenda?
These absences could have very well been carefully pre-planned.

And if Kelly Kohls knew anything regarding Nov 2 may have been voted on this past Tuesday, it wouldn't surprise me one iota if she purposefully chose not to attend the meeting, out of sheer protest.

Despite the recent resignations of Baker, Debtwiller & Colston, the Springboro school district, its teachers & its board ARE STILL stuffed to the gills with an undertone of sickening, distorted elitism.
This faux-elitism by its very nature serves as a grand disconnect between the district & area taxpayers, with OR without kids of school age.

Kudos to parents of district students who've in the past 'dared' to attend board meetings to speak their various grievences against levys, etc.
I sure hope the board sees & hears a lot more from you, very soon!
voter

Englewood, OH

#5 Jul 1, 2010
There is a difference. Some of us will support our school levies IF we see the money is going for the kids and education.

We lack trust of this BOE and how they have handled replacing the CFO (don't have much faith in how they will replace the super or the 5th BOE member) and how they went about putting a levy on the ballot.

Many of us are not anti-levy, but we will not support one until the administration's change and the disconnect disappears and we feel we have more of a voice in our own children's education. This district has shut its parents, its volunteers, and its community out of the process. The BOE does things they way they WANT to do it with little respect of what is best for the children.

NV you are correct about the disconnect, but it isn't just about levies. Simply put, we just really want it to be about the kids. You'll get my and my wife's vote of yes if you demonstrate the money is going for the kids and about educating the kids. Not fluff. Not union demands. Also we are sick of the crazy amount of money spent on athletics at the expense of all else.
Parent of 3 athletes

Dayton, OH

#6 Jul 3, 2010
voter wrote:
You'll get my and my wife's vote of yes if you demonstrate the money is going for the kids and about educating the kids. Not fluff. Not union demands. Also we are sick of the crazy amount of money spent on athletics at the expense of all else.
There is not a "crazy amount of money spent on athletics". Athletics are 100% PAY TO PARTICIPATE right now. 100% of the costs of athletics are currently paid by the parents of the athletes. Please get the facts.
Fighting for Balance

Cleveland, OH

#7 Aug 6, 2010
The Board of Education in Springboro has breached and violated its fiduciary responsibility to this community. It is not about voting "yes" or "no" for this levy. It is about these 3 core elements:

1. Financial responsibility
2. Financial accountability
3. Ability to live within our means!

I am not against a levy; however, today, a levy IS NOT NEEDED. Based on forecasts, and there are many, in 2011, there is plenty of money to operate the district.

WHIO Local News, July 16, 2010, BOE member Don Miller is quoted, "Board Member Don Miller told Dayton Daily News reporter Lawrence Budd, he thinks the board needs to give voters a chance to approve the proposed levy, but that cuts are expected in the next five years even if it passes."

I ask, WHY put this community through the hastle of fighting over a levy when the BOE failed in its duty to take actions since May of 2009? Don Miller says more could / will be done! The fiduciary of this board is breached with the community.

I encourage you to watch this YouTube of Governor Christie from New Jersey. To me, it says it all and addresses the issue in Springboro.

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November Vengeance

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Aug 8, 2010
This is the absolute the best posting in the Springboro forum of Topix for the month of August, so far:
Fighting for Balance wrote:
The Board of Education in Springboro has breached and violated its fiduciary responsibility to this community. It is not about voting "yes" or "no" for this levy. It is about these 3 core elements:
1. Financial responsibility
2. Financial accountability
3. Ability to live within our means!
I am not against a levy; however, today, a levy IS NOT NEEDED. Based on forecasts, and there are many, in 2011, there is plenty of money to operate the district.
WHIO Local News, July 16, 2010, BOE member Don Miller is quoted, "Board Member Don Miller told Dayton Daily News reporter Lawrence Budd, he thinks the board needs to give voters a chance to approve the proposed levy, but that cuts are expected in the next five years even if it passes."
I ask, WHY put this community through the hastle of fighting over a levy when the BOE failed in its duty to take actions since May of 2009? Don Miller says more could / will be done! The fiduciary of this board is breached with the community.
I encourage you to watch this YouTube of Governor Christie from New Jersey. To me, it says it all and addresses the issue in Springboro.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =yuri7p_9pm4XX&feature=rel ated
OK, N.F.S.S. kiss-up people, where are you?
(-;
Dazed and Confused

Cincinnati, OH

#9 Oct 22, 2010
What is more important to spend your tax dollars on than our School system? Damn the roads, damn the new buildings, damn the multi-million dollar athletic fields and damn all of the stupid political signs!
Nick

Cleveland, OH

#10 Nov 2, 2010
Hey I'm a kid that goes to Springboro. All you people that think our school is not worth putting more money into it are stupid. I'm sorry but will just over a quarte a day hert you? No it wolnt. any way i am the won feeling the affects of the cuts. we have no money and we will be in debt next year if we don't pass the levy. then the state will start looking at are schools. and if they feel we cant run our schools, they will come in and run them! we will have no sports no classes except the ones we need to graduate. we need the levy passed or else strickland takes over and i'm guesen you all arn't in for that. remember i go there, i know whats happening.
Proud Student Voter

Dayton, OH

#11 Nov 2, 2010
I am also a student a Springboro and I am appalled at how ill-informed many voters are. Many of our classrooms are filled to the point that students have to sit at the computers in the very back with next to no breathing room. ALL of our athletes have to pay ALL of their own fees (Junior High and High School), and we can't even afford new BOOKS. I voted for the levy today not for me but for the students attending after me.
Proud Student Voter

Dayton, OH

#12 Nov 2, 2010
Nick wrote:
Hey I'm a kid that goes to Springboro. All you people that think our school is not worth putting more money into it are stupid. I'm sorry but will just over a quarte a day hert you? No it wolnt. any way i am the won feeling the affects of the cuts. we have no money and we will be in debt next year if we don't pass the levy. then the state will start looking at are schools. and if they feel we cant run our schools, they will come in and run them! we will have no sports no classes except the ones we need to graduate. we need the levy passed or else strickland takes over and i'm guesen you all arn't in for that. remember i go there, i know whats happening.
I completely agree with you
November Vengeance

Cincinnati, OH

#13 Nov 2, 2010
Nick & Proud Student Voter:

It's interesting to hear both of your stories of classroom overcrowding. However, this flies in the face of reality. 25-30 kids in any given class should be perfectly managable for a quality secondary school teacher.

Often the problem isn't about the TOTAL number of kids, but rather with almost constant discipline with a certain 1, or maybe 2 kids. And really, a problem kid isn't the teachers' issue to deal with so much as it is the PARENTS'. If the parent(s) are slackers & let the kid get away with everything, then the kid, of course, will take advantage of everything he/she can get away with at school as well. In the meantime, the rest of the class suffers.
This is how is was 30 years ago when I was in high school.....and how it is now.

Stop allowing your teachers to brainwash you into believing the sky is going to fall if a given levy fails! Some school levies are mis-guided from the get-go, asking for too much $$.... like THIS one certainly was!

The BEST kind of levy is one that passes overwhelmingly, after the school district & the community it serves begin to settle differences, mend fences & finally come together.

What needs to happen in order to get there?
THIS district needs to trim fat!
Go to http://www.educatespringboro.org/ & click on 'Budget Saving Steps'.

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