not John Agenbroad too ?

not John Agenbroad too ?

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who knows

Dayton, OH

#1 Oct 27, 2008
John Agenbroad, mayor of Springboro apparently made a statement that he was a recipient of a silver star while in the Marines during the Vietnam War. Guess what...he received no such medal. Larry Budd is writing an article about it.
Terry Blair

West Chester, OH

#2 Oct 28, 2008
who knows wrote:
John Agenbroad, mayor of Springboro apparently made a statement that he was a recipient of a silver star while in the Marines during the Vietnam War. Guess what...he received no such medal. Larry Budd is writing an article about it.
I've known John Agenbroad since 1987.
I've been at lots of Veterans ceremony's where he has been the speaker.
I have never heard John say that he has a Silver Star and don't beleive that he has ever said he has one.
I think that this is politics at its dirtiest and think someone should be held libel.
John Agenbroad is a True Patriot not a Wanabee.
leave it alone

AOL

#3 Oct 28, 2008
Terry Blair wrote:
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I've known John Agenbroad since 1987.
I've been at lots of Veterans ceremony's where he has been the speaker.
I have never heard John say that he has a Silver Star and don't beleive that he has ever said he has one.
I think that this is politics at its dirtiest and think someone should be held libel.
John Agenbroad is a True Patriot not a Wanabee.
Mr. Blair...I do not understand your implication that there are dirty politics involved.
I researched Mr. Budd's story in the DDN back to chron.com ( Chicago Tribune) and would suggest that you do the same before you go into a tirade. The Chicage Tribune have referred to 333 people whose profiles have been researched and they are documenting that these people have falsified their profiles on the Who's Who publication.
They are further documenting a look at an additional 273 obituaries that have been published in the past 10 years and have found that four out of five people have falsely misrepresented their official military records.
Mr. Agenbroad was reflected as one of them in the two documented articles.
I would think that the Springboro City Council will be conducting their own investigation and discussions with Mr. Agenbroad.
As again the Tribune article documents that their is in fact a 2007 law that makes it a federal crime to falsely claim, verbally or in writing, that one has earned a medal for valor. Both Mr. Budd and Mr. Crewsdon of the Chicago Tribune received a comment from Mayor Agenbroad that you should review Mr. Blair before BLOWING OFF about dirty politics. Let the Springboro City Council and the FBI continue with due diligence in their investigations and you should keep politics out of it by not tying your name to it.
Time to go

Cincinnati, OH

#4 Oct 30, 2008
If he said it, he needs to resign
How could you do that

AOL

#5 Oct 30, 2008
Time to go wrote:
If he said it, he needs to resign
Other folks are saying that they have heard Mr. Agenbroad state in public places that he has earned the silver medal during his tour of duty...validating the Tribune and DDN stories.

If anyone has further input or knowledge to this effect...please let us know.
What is the truth

AOL

#6 Oct 31, 2008
The following is the Article that appeared in the Chicago Tribune after an extensive investigation.
I would hope and demand that the Springboro City Manager, the 6 members of Springboro City Council and the appropriate law enforcement agencies along with Mayor Agenbroad will be issuing their findings to the accusations.

Claims of medals amount to stolen valor

Dale Messmer, an anti-drug lecturer, falsely claimed a Navy Cross—"to my undying shame," he says. War heroes, he says, don't need to brag. "I've learned that most guys who have done that sort of thing, they don't talk about it."
Michael Roshkind, a former senior executive at Motown Records, said he had awarded himself the Navy Cross "to make myself a hero to my wife, or something like that. I'm not proud of that, but it's history."

Asked whether he intended to contact Who's Who and correct his biography, Roshkind replied: "Why would I do that? I have no interest in that."
A man from Issaquah, Wash., who acknowledged falsely claiming the Navy Cross said he couldn't explain why. Then he offered this insight:
"I did it for my own self-gratification," said James William Massick, who owns a heavy-equipment manufacturing company.

Top excuses for unverified medals of valor

One of the most common responses among those contacted by the Tribune was that they had no idea their Who's Who profiles claimed medals for valor they did not hold. Others responded by hanging up the phone or maintaining that they in fact had earned the medals.

But none provided to the Tribune proof in the form of a military document or an actual medal.
In addition, Who's Who officials were able to show the Tribune annual updates in which many of these men signed and returned profiles verifying their bogus claims to the medals in question.
"I do not believe any of these people are going to admit what they did," said Who's Who publisher James Pfister. "But I know Who's Who never puts data in the awards section unless it comes from the listee."

For its listings, Who's Who says it relies on information furnished exclusively by its "biographees," included by invitation on the basis of past achievement or future promise.
Biographees complete extensive personal histories and are given the chance to check their profiles before they appear in print. Once a year they receive an update form in which they can correct errors or add new accomplishments.

Some of the biographies described exploits that could not have occurred, such as a man who claimed the Distinguished Service Cross in Vietnam for having rescued men from a burning truck near Khe Sanh, when his military records showed he was a clerk-typist stationed in Hawaii. Another man claimed to have earned a Silver Star during the 1968 Tet Offensive--a time, according to the birth date in his Who's Who profile, when he was 14 years old.

John Agenbroad, the four-time mayor of Springboro, Ohio, whose profile in Who's Who credited him with one Silver Star, spoke in several interviews with the Tribune about the medal. Asked if he owned that decoration, he initially replied, "Yes, I do."

But his military records list no Silver Star. And Agenbroad, who has campaigned on his war record, later acknowledged he didn't have one. He said he was unaware he was in Who's Who and didn't recall sending information to the publisher.

How did he explain the Who's Who entry? "I have absolutely no answer for that," he said. "I don't know why I would do that, but obviously I did."
Agenbroad has since sent a letter to Who's Who asking that his biography be modified to delete the medal, according to Who's Who.
ould be made much easier.
How do you feel

AOL

#7 Nov 1, 2008
Time to go wrote:
If he said it, he needs to resign
I agree

Quotes from Chicago Tribune Article on Monday,
Oct. 27,2008

John Agenbroad, the four-time mayor of Springboro, Ohio, whose profile in Who's Who credited him with one Silver Star, spoke in several interviews with the Tribune about the medal. Asked if he owned that decoration, he initially replied, "Yes, I do."

But his military records list no Silver Star. And Agenbroad, who has campaigned on his war record, later acknowledged he didn't have one. He said he was unaware he was in Who's Who and didn't recall sending information to the publisher.

How did he explain the Who's Who entry? "I have absolutely no answer for that," he said. "I don't know why I would do that, but obviously I did."
Agenbroad has since sent a letter to Who's Who asking that his biography be modified to delete the medal, according to Who's Who.

Mayor> Can you please let our community know if you made these statments?
Time to go

Cincinnati, OH

#8 Nov 2, 2008
AOL, Wht don't you go to the next City Council meeting and demand an investigation.
what is the truth

AOL

#9 Nov 2, 2008
Time to go wrote:
AOL, Wht don't you go to the next City Council meeting and demand an investigation.
Time to go>> It is for integrity, not to mention honesty and this City Council are all ELECTED OFFICIALS...they desire and seek these positions to serve the people.

It is their RESPONSIBILITY to be in tune with the truth. I assure you this community will be watching during their regularly scheduled council meeting on Nov. 6.

Many of us are researching other avenues and I would like to point out one web site that illustrates how rampant this problem is. It illustrates why Mayor Agenbroad needs to state the truth as an elected official leading the City of Springboro. I would certainly expect the Council Members to uphold the integrity of their offices and demand answers and the TRUTH.

http://www.pownetwork.org/phonies/phonies.htm

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT STOLEN VALOR, PHONIES AND WANNABE'S

THIS IS NOT WHAT I VOTED FOR WHEN I CAST MY VOTE FOR THE MAYOR IN NOV. 2007
Time to go

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Nov 2, 2008
obviously you voted for the wrong guy....the city won't do a thing unlees he's convicted of a crime...or there's a HUGE public out cry....and unfortunatly I don't see either happeneing.
what is the truth

AOL

#11 Nov 2, 2008
Time to go wrote:
obviously you voted for the wrong guy....the city won't do a thing unlees he's convicted of a crime...or there's a HUGE public out cry....and unfortunatly I don't see either happeneing.
So it's pretty much business as usual with the City Council? If that happens...and this Council doesn't demand answers and or the truth...it will certainly be making a strong statment and is a form of condonement and DRAWS BIG TIME QUESTIONS TO THEIR CHARACTER as well. Stay tuned.

Doesn't the City Council have a legal committee composed of residents and city staff along with council members that oversee?
who knows

Dayton, OH

#12 Nov 2, 2008
Time to go wrote:
obviously you voted for the wrong guy....the city won't do a thing unlees he's convicted of a crime...or there's a HUGE public out cry....and unfortunatly I don't see either happeneing.
you're exactly right. John is like a god in this community. one of the council members is his next door neighbor. another received campaign dollars from John when she ran for reelection last year. you won't find the council as a whole do anything. your best bet to actually speak up AT the council meeting. besides, John said in the paper when he finds out the whole story, he would have a statement.
what is the truth

AOL

#13 Nov 2, 2008
who knows wrote:
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you're exactly right. John is like a god in this community. one of the council members is his next door neighbor. another received campaign dollars from John when she ran for reelection last year. you won't find the council as a whole do anything. your best bet to actually speak up AT the council meeting. besides, John said in the paper when he finds out the whole story, he would have a statement.
Then he should make an updated statement saying where he is at in his investigation. The Tribune Articles date back a week since they appeared and it's been 5 days since the coverage in the two local newspapers and almost a week since the story appeared in the DDN.

He owes his colleagues on council along with the city staff not to mention the citizens of Springboro an update.

It's always been my experience...when nothing is said it is almost always an admission of guilt.

The hope is that people will forget.

So, again Mayor make some type of statement to the people who have entrusted you to lead the City of Springboro
Stand up

Cincinnati, OH

#14 Nov 2, 2008
It's time for EVERYONE to attend the City Council meeting on Thursday to show their discontent. When the public shows up, they (and the PRESS) pay attention.
In the know

Cincinnati, OH

#15 Nov 2, 2008
I would suggest everyone read the City Charter. An elected official can not be removed from office unless convicted of a crime. Hence, unless he resigns due to public pressure, he's here to stay.
who knows

Dayton, OH

#16 Nov 2, 2008
Stand up wrote:
It's time for EVERYONE to attend the City Council meeting on Thursday to show their discontent. When the public shows up, they (and the PRESS) pay attention.
good luck...apathy runs amuck here...
In the know

Cincinnati, OH

#17 Nov 2, 2008
who knows wrote:
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good luck...apathy runs amuck here...
That's exactly why the Mayor's been around so long....
How about the truth

AOL

#18 Nov 3, 2008
It seems a definition of the Silver Star Medal is in order and the breech of STOLEN VALOR it implies when a military person states he has it...when in fact he doesn't.

SILVER STAR MEDAL
(All Services)

For distinguished gallantry in action against an enemy of the United States or while serving with friendly forces against an opposing enemy force.

The Silver Star is the THIRD HIGHEST military award designated soley for HEROISM in combat. Established in 1918 as the Citation Star, in 1932 it was redesignated as a medal with a retroactive provision that allowed servicemen as far back as the Spanish-American War (1898) to receive it for gallant actions.

----------

Army & AF wear a Bronze Oak Leaf Cluster for subsequent awards.
Navy, USMC & CG wear a Gold Star for each subsequent award.

A silver Oak Leaf Cluster is worn in lieu of 5 Bronze OLCs.
A Silver Star is worn in lieu of 5 Gold Stars.



amazing

Cincinnati, OH

#19 Nov 3, 2008
it's amazing that the mayor is still the grand marshal for the chistmas parade in springboro. Who's in charge?
who knows

Brook Park, OH

#20 Nov 3, 2008
amazing wrote:
it's amazing that the mayor is still the grand marshal for the chistmas parade in springboro. Who's in charge?
why the immates of course...LOL

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