transgender teen faces challenge

Aug 10, 2008 | Posted by: Dyssonance | Full story: www.lohud.com

Michael Arone has been called every pejorative someone could direct at a transgender teen.

Arone, a North Rockland school district 10th-grader, is a male transgender teen who publicly goes by Melissa Andrews and prefers to be referred to as a female.

Arone said classmates have routinely called her "faggot," "she-male," "it" and "queer" in response to her wearing eye shadow and lipstick, straightening her shoulder-length brown hair and carrying a purse to school.

"She's dealing with a hate crime," said her mother, Patricia Arone, 37. "That's the only way to say it, it's hate."

Comments
81 - 100 of 117 Comments Last updated Nov 20, 2012

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#83
Aug 12, 2008
 

Judged:

2

Sean Hannity wrote:
Wow, you don't like it when people have the right not to like you or your kind. It seems to me that your one of those people who are pushing and demanding that everyone tolerate you and like you, when you don't realize that people in America have rights and they have that right to choose whether to like you or not.
It's no wonder why people don't like you or your transgender kind. It's because when you demand tolerance, that's fine, but when when you demand acceptance, that's pushing it and that's pushing it too far and people are saying to you, NO WAY!!!!.
You can't push and demand people to accept you and tolerate you because people have rights and they have the right to choose to like or not like you at all.
Just by your tone and language, you seem to be more of the demanding in your face for tolerance and acceptance.
Who has said that we are asking you to accept or tolerate us? We are only asking that we have a right to our lives. What I do in the bedroom with whomever is there with me is my right, just as you have that right.

You are just about the most stooooooopid (misspelled for your 7th grade education to understand) person I have ever seen on this forum.

“dyssonance hotmail”

Since: Mar 07

Phoenix, AZ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#84
Aug 12, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

ROFL.

Nick, now, see, I've been *nice* to you. I've even stepped out.

And yet you are still arguing the same empty, hollow lies and sad little projections.

Admit it, hon: you are T.

And it scares the HELL out of you.

“Trolls, the canker sores of”

Since: Jul 07

the internet.

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#85
Aug 12, 2008
 

Judged:

2

1

1

Sean Hannity wrote:
"and everyone deserves to have those rights of personal choice respected and not be victimised."
But, no one automatically deserves to have their decisions taken seriously. Basic human rights are one thing. Immoral choices are another.
"It takes a lot of courage to maintain a minority image, far more than is present in those that attack them."
True.
But, while there will always be some who attack the person, there will be many more who will critique the decision to go public. When you take your choices into the public arena, you must allow for others to publicly respond.
There is a difference between tolerance and acceptance. Many homosexual and transgendered groups demand tolerance. OK, no problem. BUT, then they demand acceptance. No way!!!
If you demand that I accept everything that you do, not just tolerate it, then you are intruding on MY FREEDOM to think as I like. You are pushing YOUR beliefs on me.
I don't demand that you accept my beliefs, but you should tolerate them. Stop demanding that I not only tolerate but ACCEPT your atheistic, agnostic, non-Christian, or secular-based ideas and choices.
So So much for a FREE Society here.
Why doesn't everyone have the right to be taken seriously?

Why do you think your values are any more important then any one else's, including mine?

You really need to quit pushing your values and morals on me then.

Tell me just how did we CHOOSE to be gay, lesbian or trans? Did we just wake up one morning and say "well I think I will be ______ today."?

“Trolls, the canker sores of”

Since: Jul 07

the internet.

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#86
Aug 12, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Sean king wrote:
<quoted text>That's because I don't want to be a victim of cyber bullying I consider syber bullies the lowest form of life.
And yet you are being a cyber bully.

Things can only be your way or you're going to scream and shout that you are not getting your rights.*sigh* It's all about equality and you just don't want to hear it.

“Trolls, the canker sores of”

Since: Jul 07

the internet.

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#87
Aug 12, 2008
 
Sean Hannity wrote:
Wow, you don't like it when people have the right not to like you or your kind. It seems to me that your one of those people who are pushing and demanding that everyone tolerate you and like you, when you don't realize that people in America have rights and they have that right to choose whether to like you or not.
It's no wonder why people don't like you or your transgender kind. It's because when you demand tolerance, that's fine, but when when you demand acceptance, that's pushing it and that's pushing it too far and people are saying to you, NO WAY!!!!.
You can't push and demand people to accept you and tolerate you because people have rights and they have the right to choose to like or not like you at all.
Just by your tone and language, you seem to be more of the demanding in your face for tolerance and acceptance.
Are you really that angry at others or are you angry at yourself?
If I remember correctly you have to take some kind of hormones to keep your body stable...and yet you have the nerve to yell at others. Pot, I think you need to meet kettle.

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#88
Aug 12, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Sean king wrote:
<quoted text>That's because I don't want to be a victim of cyber bullying I consider syber bullies the lowest form of life.
Ah, yes. Now I understand where you are coming from. I guess since you posted Dys' WEB site, maybe everyone here should see yours, NICK!

http://nicksnospinzoneannex.blogspot.com/

I can understand why you are so angry with your medical condition, intersexed, Kallman's Syndrome, micropenis and all. In layman's terms, you are suffering from "Little Man's Syndrome", trying to make up for what you don't have by being a total jerk.

I really am sorry to see that you are a nursing student. If they allow you to complete your studies and sit boards, I pity your patients. There is no way you can be a nurse and show the compassion necessary to take care of EVERYONE. I am totally ashamed of the fact that they allow you to practice as a Firfighter/EMT-B. You bring a pall over the profession!! Yes, my background was as a firefighter/EMT-B-IV before getting into nursing. I suppose that I should contact the Connecticut board of nursing and let them read what you have to say and your opinions of those who don't believe the way you do and have them put a stop to your license before you get started. You are a blight to all the nurses across the world!
Sean Hannity Show

Berlin, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#90
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

2

2

1

It seems to me, that you people trying to silence people and shaming their bigotry. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical Christian right dose when they are trying to force their religion on others. It's the same where Mormons are trying to force people to read their religious fliers. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical religious right are doing and that to me impinges and infringes my rights to think, believe, act and do.

That to me sound like you all are infringing on their constitutional rights as well as MINES. It seems to me that you are not only demanding things, you are forcing upon people tolerance and acceptance of your lifestyle, fetish.

That is so unconstitutional and people have rights. People have rights to like what ever they want or not to like anything as well. People have the right to choose and also people have the right to be a bigot. The last time I checked, this is America and the last time I read the US Constitution, Everyone is entitled to their first amendment rights and their Bill of rights. The last time I read the US Constitution & the Bill of rights, their is no mention or wording of transgender, gender Identity or gender expression within the Bill of rights.

If they or I have a constitutional right to be a bigot, so be it. It's protected right and speech in the US Constitution and if you don't like it you can always jump the border and go to another country that wants and likes your fetish and lifestyle.

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#91
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

2

2

2

Sean Hannity Show wrote:
It seems to me, that you people trying to silence people and shaming their bigotry. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical Christian right dose when they are trying to force their religion on others. It's the same where Mormons are trying to force people to read their religious fliers. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical religious right are doing and that to me impinges and infringes my rights to think, believe, act and do.
That to me sound like you all are infringing on their constitutional rights as well as MINES. It seems to me that you are not only demanding things, you are forcing upon people tolerance and acceptance of your lifestyle, fetish.
That is so unconstitutional and people have rights. People have rights to like what ever they want or not to like anything as well. People have the right to choose and also people have the right to be a bigot. The last time I checked, this is America and the last time I read the US Constitution, Everyone is entitled to their first amendment rights and their Bill of rights. The last time I read the US Constitution & the Bill of rights, their is no mention or wording of transgender, gender Identity or gender expression within the Bill of rights.
If they or I have a constitutional right to be a bigot, so be it. It's protected right and speech in the US Constitution and if you don't like it you can always jump the border and go to another country that wants and likes your fetish and lifestyle.
You are correct in talking about your constitutional rights. You have the right not to like someone, anyone, but that right does not extend to depriving them of basic human rights for themselves. It is like your right to freely swing your arms in the air. That right ends when someone's body is hit by you as you have now infringed on their rights!

There has been absolutely no one on this forum who have asked for anything unconstitutional. They have only asked that they be given the right to exist with the same rights as you. You do not have to like it. You do not have to become transgendered, marry or date someone who is or even be friends with one. That is your right. It would seem that someone like you who is intersexed should understand this. Do you identify as male or female? You have posted here as both.

As an aside, I am quite distrubed that the educational system has failed you. At the age of 32, being a college student majoring in nursing, your English skills are very poor. If you ever want to be taken seriously, then you had better be able to present a more polished argument. Right now all you do is babble on. Nursing requires a tremendous amount of reading, writing, comprehension and communications which it appears you have none of.
Sean Hannity Show

Berlin, CT

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#92
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Your Right, even when you try to shame and silence others, that still is unconstitutional and it impinges and infringes on my and any other constitutional rights. They have the right not to like anyone and that doesn't mean you have to force it upon them. They have that right to express their likes and dislikes and impinging and infringing on their dislikes is unconstitutional as well.

The one thing I don't get is when the transgender community demands not only tolerance and acceptance of them, their lifestyle and fetish. They don't seem to realize that they are tramping not only on my rights, but the rights of everyone else as well. It seems to be common knowledge that they would rather trample upon the rights of men and women for their own rights.

“dyssonance hotmail”

Since: Mar 07

Phoenix, AZ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#93
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Ok, that's it. Done with you:
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
It seems to me, that you people trying to silence people and shaming their bigotry.
How are they trying to silence you?

This is an open forum which none of them have control over or authority over.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
What you all are doing amounts to what the radical Christian right dose when they are trying to force their religion on others.
How does it amount to such -- specifics, nick. Just saying it does so proves nothing, and explains nothing.

Demonstrate it.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
It's the same where Mormons are trying to force people to read their religious fliers.
What mormons spreading what fliers, and in what way are they *forcing* people to do so?

I lived in Mesa a mighty long time, and in all that time I didn't see any fliers. And my great uncle is mormon, and has never had any fliers.

Now, the Jehovah's Witnesses leave fliers, but they do not force anyone, and I'm familiar with them as well (I went and married one).

However, the two religious denominations are unrelated.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
What you all are doing amounts to what the radical religious right are doing and that to me impinges and infringes my rights to think, believe, act and do.
In what way or ways does it do this?
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
That to me sound like you all are infringing on their constitutional rights as well as MINES. It seems to me that you are not only demanding things, you are forcing upon people tolerance and acceptance of your lifestyle, fetish.
Well, given you have yet to elucidate any sort of evidence of any of that, I'd say your entire statement is horseshit.

ANd the same argument used to prevent desegregation and prevent SSM.

Oh, and let's not forget to euthanize and "correct" intersex folks.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
That is so unconstitutional and people have rights. People have rights to like what ever they want or not to like anything as well. People have the right to choose and also people have the right to be a bigot.
No, it is not unconstitutional.

You are correct, people do have those rights. They do not have the right to use that bigotry as an excuse to defame, libel, or otherwise harrass the *targets* of that bigotry.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
The last time I checked, this is America and the last time I read the US Constitution, Everyone is entitled to their first amendment rights and their Bill of rights.
Yep. But the first amendment right does not prevent you from being argued with, or disagreed with, or called out on your bigotry.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
The last time I read the US Constitution & the Bill of rights, their is no mention or wording of transgender, gender Identity or gender expression within the Bill of rights.
Nor is their intersex, women, or asian. Your point?
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
If they or I have a constitutional right to be a bigot, so be it. It's protected right and speech in the US Constitution and if you don't like it you can always jump the border and go to another country that wants and likes your fetish and lifestyle.
And if you don't like being called out for it, well, you have the right to do the same thing.

'Cause girl, we ain't movin', and we are winning.

“dyssonance hotmail”

Since: Mar 07

Phoenix, AZ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#94
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Sean Hannity Show wrote:
Your Right, even when you try to shame and silence others, that still is unconstitutional and it impinges and infringes on my and any other constitutional rights.
Incorrect. They are free to try and silence you and it is not unconstitutional to shame you.

THe *government* cannot silence you.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
They have the right not to like anyone and that doesn't mean you have to force it upon them. They have that right to express their likes and dislikes and impinging and infringing on their dislikes is unconstitutional as well.
How are their likes and dislikes being impinged on?
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
The one thing I don't get is when the transgender community demands not only tolerance and acceptance of them, their lifestyle and fetish.
They are not doing any such thing. This may be why you don't get it.
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
They don't seem to realize that they are tramping not only on my rights, but the rights of everyone else as well. It seems to be common knowledge that they would rather trample upon the rights of men and women for their own rights.
What rights of yours are they trampling, and in what way are they being trampled on?

How do they do this?

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#95
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Sean Hannity Show wrote:
Your Right, even when you try to shame and silence others, that still is unconstitutional and it impinges and infringes on my and any other constitutional rights. They have the right not to like anyone and that doesn't mean you have to force it upon them. They have that right to express their likes and dislikes and impinging and infringing on their dislikes is unconstitutional as well.
The one thing I don't get is when the transgender community demands not only tolerance and acceptance of them, their lifestyle and fetish. They don't seem to realize that they are tramping not only on my rights, but the rights of everyone else as well. It seems to be common knowledge that they would rather trample upon the rights of men and women for their own rights.
Please tell us, SPECIFICALLY, what constitutional right transgendered people are are taking away from you or others. Very simple question, now let's hear the answer.

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#96
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

3

2

2

Nick, you don't have a right to the non-existence or closeting of transgender people.

You do have a right to dislike transgender people, but the existence and open lives of such people in no way, shape, or form infringes upon your rights.

The laws of this country that give you the right to dislike us and to express your dislike are the very same laws that give us the right to disagree with you and speak up when you start your bullying rants.

So, what is it you want from us? We will not cease to exist, nor will we waste our lives in some closet, in order to accommodate selfish brats like yourself.

So, short of that, what is it you're trying to accomplish with your hateful posts?

“Bullish on Equal Rights”

Since: Dec 06

Rocky Mountains

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#97
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Dasein9 wrote:
Nick, you don't have a right to the non-existence or closeting of transgender people.
You do have a right to dislike transgender people, but the existence and open lives of such people in no way, shape, or form infringes upon your rights.
The laws of this country that give you the right to dislike us and to express your dislike are the very same laws that give us the right to disagree with you and speak up when you start your bullying rants.
So, what is it you want from us? We will not cease to exist, nor will we waste our lives in some closet, in order to accommodate selfish brats like yourself.
So, short of that, what is it you're trying to accomplish with your hateful posts?
Nick is a trip isn't, IT, er, he or is it she? I'm confused because Nick admits to being intersexed. Should I be afraid of Nick in the bathroom with me because HE could rape me as a male or SHE could seduce me as a female? Hmmmmmm, I'm sooooo confused!

I hope you went to Nick's BLOG and read his/her/it's drivel. He/she/it openly admits to being an opinionated jerk. The real kicker here is that he/she/it has the audacity to make the comments he/she/it does about transgendered persons after admitting being intersexed.

“Just call me Das. ”

Since: Jul 07

United States

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#98
Aug 13, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Rikki S wrote:
<quoted text>
Nick is a trip isn't, IT, er, he or is it she? I'm confused because Nick admits to being intersexed. Should I be afraid of Nick in the bathroom with me because HE could rape me as a male or SHE could seduce me as a female? Hmmmmmm, I'm sooooo confused!
I hope you went to Nick's BLOG and read his/her/it's drivel. He/she/it openly admits to being an opinionated jerk. The real kicker here is that he/she/it has the audacity to make the comments he/she/it does about transgendered persons after admitting being intersexed.
Worse, he's said he hates us because some clown in the APA is trying to get intersex classified as a form of transgender condition.

So, we have a common foe, but it's US he hates, not her.

“=”

Since: Oct 07

Appleton WI

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#99
Aug 13, 2008
 
Sean Hannity Show wrote:
It seems to me, that you people trying to silence people and shaming their bigotry. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical Christian right dose when they are trying to force their religion on others. It's the same where Mormons are trying to force people to read their religious fliers. What you all are doing amounts to what the radical religious right are doing and that to me impinges and infringes my rights to think, believe, act and do.
That to me sound like you all are infringing on their constitutional rights as well as MINES. It seems to me that you are not only demanding things, you are forcing upon people tolerance and acceptance of your lifestyle, fetish.
That is so unconstitutional and people have rights. People have rights to like what ever they want or not to like anything as well. People have the right to choose and also people have the right to be a bigot. The last time I checked, this is America and the last time I read the US Constitution, Everyone is entitled to their first amendment rights and their Bill of rights. The last time I read the US Constitution & the Bill of rights, their is no mention or wording of transgender, gender Identity or gender expression within the Bill of rights.
If they or I have a constitutional right to be a bigot, so be it. It's protected right and speech in the US Constitution and if you don't like it you can always jump the border and go to another country that wants and likes your fetish and lifestyle.
http://www.drunkmotherfucker.com/funny/bullsh...
Matt

Park Ridge, NJ

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#100
Aug 19, 2008
 

Judged:

1

Lots of people get teased in High School, it's a fact of life and not a crime. If Michael (Melissa) had the balls to go to school in drag, I applaud that tenacity. He (she) is going to plenty of it to keep standing up in this conservative world. If everyone would just recognize an individual based on their actions we might get over all this bullshit. Our world will be a better place when common sense prevails over YOUR FEARS hidden behind "The Constitution". Like it or not, Melissa (Michael) is going to succeed in our society because she obviously has the intestinal fortitude to make a stand.
Jenni Adriana

Littleton, CO

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#101
Aug 19, 2008
 
Sean hannity wrote:
Well that's his fault for being who he isn't and that's what he gets for pushing his lifestyle and fetish upon people.
You're an ignorant Fascist fuck-head. Just because you have a radio show doesn't make you an authority on ANYTHING. In fact the ONLY thing it makes you an authority on is blowing smoke out that hole in your butt you call your mouth.

Or, if you prefer a much more Christian reply:

"Judge NOT, lest Ye be judged as well!"

It's sad really, the fact that you're so scared of your own homo-erotic fantasies that you refuse to acknowledge to yourself simply proves that you are far less genuine than Melissa and she's just a high school student. I applaud her courage. That is something you will never have and have never had... obviously. Too bad that twats like you get national celebrity publicity just because you enjoy flapping your gums more than actually DOING anything with your pathetic life. People like you make me sick!
Jenni Adriana

Littleton, CO

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#102
Aug 19, 2008
 
Wow! Holy Shiite Muslim!!!! A national radio host, a supposed authority on many political and social subjects can't even spell the word "does"! Wow... just... wow.

Well, I think that's just one piece of evidence among way way to many that give so many people the want to silence you and shame your ignorant bigotry. Jesus you're an idiot! You're worse than Rush Limbaugh. Wow! You're even sadder than I originally thought.
Jenni Adriana

Littleton, CO

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#103
Aug 19, 2008
 
Dasein9 wrote:
This guy reminds me of something I read last week:
"You can't insult a fool; he's not listening."
And apparently doesn't know how to read either. You make a really good point.

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Type in your comments below
Name
(appears on your post)
Comments
Characters left: 4000
Type the numbers you see in the image on the right:

Please note by clicking on "Post Comment" you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Spring Valley Discussions

Search the Spring Valley Forum:
Title Updated Last By Comments
NY Who do you support for Governor in New York in ... (Oct '10) 14 min Billy O Liar 6,347
NY Who do you support for U.S. Senate in New York ... (Oct '10) 23 hr Steve Douchy 6,364
NY New York Primary Election Sept 14: Will you vote? (Sep '10) Wed Sham Hannuty 16,777
Massive search underway for New City teen Jorge... Jul 21 bensleys thoughts 1
NY Who do you support for Comptroller in New York ... (Oct '10) Jul 20 Sham Hanutty 436
Review: Moonlight Pediatrics (Jul '11) Jul 15 avoid this place 7
COMRAD De Blasio has got to go ! Jul 4 Wyatt 1
•••
•••

Spring Valley News Video

•••
Spring Valley Dating

more search filters

less search filters

•••

Spring Valley Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••
•••

Spring Valley People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Spring Valley News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Spring Valley
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••