Woman accused in slaying, baby's abdu...

Woman accused in slaying, baby's abduction had recent miscarriage

There are 14 comments on the Ghanamma.com story from Apr 19, 2012, titled Woman accused in slaying, baby's abduction had recent miscarriage. In it, Ghanamma.com reports that:

A nurse accused of killing a Texas mother in a parking lot and stealing her 3-day-old son had suffered a miscarriage and believed she needed to show her fiance that she had a child, authorities said Wednesday.

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stacey_atascosit a

United States

#1 Apr 19, 2012
It is awful what this woman's done! She did it infront of a bunch of witnesses too & now wants to stand in front of her judge (that is a strong & strict one) speaking softly and Wats to say shes not guilty! Come on! That finance of hers needs to be looked at, why did she feel she had to lie about having his child? This was a premeditated act! That family & her own is going thru HELL now! Who's to say her family wasn't already going thru hell dealing w/her & the lawyers wanta talk about she needs to get bak to her kids! Come on!!!
Mamanothappy

Houston, TX

#2 Apr 20, 2012
Don't let anger take over your reasoning abilities. This is an obvious case of hormonal rage. Pregnancy hormones made me a crazy person at times. Is there a woman out there that has had a child, can honestly say they didn't have hormonal rage at times?

This was an intelligent person who worked and cared for her family and is cared about by her family. I am shocked and I cried for a long time when I heard about this. But, simply seeing and hearing her history and seeing and hearing her speak, I can see that this was not planned. If she had planned it, she probably would have not done any of the things she did. Nothing made sense. She had to know a better way and she had knowledge and access to care facilities that would have involved no violence and a much better chance of success. If you've never been pregnant, maybe you won't understand this but a woman goes through periods of hormonal flux where we cry and cry for no reason. Say things that make no sense.

After an investigation is conducted and information collected, all this hate will prove to be unnecessary. It appears this was the act of hormonal rage. Her fiance has some answering to do. Was he dumping her right after a miscarriage? If so, I'd like to tell him personally what I think of men that manipulate women and dump them when it's convenient. Even if he had decided to not get married, why would he choose such an emotional time to add to her pain? Typical man.

There are a few good men out there, I know some. But couldn't he tell how deeply she was hurt and stay by her side until the pain of the loss was dimmed by a little time and care?

“If you believe it, stand by it”

Since: May 07

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#3 Apr 21, 2012
It does not matter what the reason is. Punishment is due and should be meted out.
Mamanothappy

United States

#4 Apr 22, 2012
seedtick wrote:
It does not matter what the reason is. Punishment is due and should be meted out.
Punishment? This is the problem in America. Few people understand mental breakdowns. It's not bad character that causes a woman to do crazy things in a hormonal rage. It's a chemical imbalance. Are you a man? That would explain your ignorance. I feel sorry for your mate, whatever gender you may be.
Please, go back to school or to your minister and ask for help.

“If you believe it, stand by it”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#5 Apr 22, 2012
Mamanothappy wrote:
<quoted text>
Punishment? This is the problem in America. Few people understand mental breakdowns. It's not bad character that causes a woman to do crazy things in a hormonal rage. It's a chemical imbalance. Are you a man? That would explain your ignorance. I feel sorry for your mate, whatever gender you may b
Please, go back to school or to your minister and ask for help.
Now, this is exactly the kind of thinking that allows criminals to walk freely among us after they have claimed some type of "chemical imbalance" caused their rampage. And, after reading your attack upon my opinion, I suggest you may need some mental review yourself. It sounds as if you have visions of yourself being a champion for this killer. And that is exactly what she has proven herself to be...it is evident that she planned this attack and then carried it out.
Let the courts sort it out.
Billy

Cypress, TX

#6 Apr 23, 2012
Mamanothappy wrote:
<quoted text>
Punishment? This is the problem in America. Few people understand mental breakdowns. It's not bad character that causes a woman to do crazy things in a hormonal rage. It's a chemical imbalance. Are you a man? That would explain your ignorance. I feel sorry for your mate, whatever gender you may be.
Please, go back to school or to your minister and ask for help.
There are tons of crime that can be attributed to other causes, both biological and self-inflicted. Addition-induced: a crime to meet a physical need. Children are molested every day because of some sort of an imbalance or trauma. Cheaters are murdered due to an emotional unsettling. That said: miscarriages happen every day. Other causes happen every day (we lock up men by the thousands for doing heinous acts caused by them being abused as a child.. and continue to seek harsher penalties...) Do we hold people accountable, or not?

Perhaps mitigating circumstances, so 15 years in prison instead of life? Do we provide treatment?

I prefer the gentler approach, but why is it that one gender's hormone or psychological driven actions are considered more permissible than anothers?
Mamanothappy

United States

#7 Apr 25, 2012
Hormonal rage is a reason not an excuse. There's so much more we need to know about this case. But to act as judge and jury before the facts are out is so wrong. This woman needs medical care now.

This country refuses to deal with mental healthcare issues and this is just one result of the failure of our healthcare system. A great many of our felons are simply lacking mental healthcare. When they get out, it starts all over again.

“If you believe it, stand by it”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#8 Apr 26, 2012
Mamanothappy wrote:
Hormonal rage is a reason not an excuse. There's so much more we need to know about this case. But to act as judge and jury before the facts are out is so wrong. This woman needs medical care now.
This country refuses to deal with mental healthcare issues and this is just one result of the failure of our healthcare system. A great many of our felons are simply lacking mental healthcare. When they get out, it starts all over again.
Then she will get the best care possible while she is incarcerated in a maximum security prison for the rest of her life. Or, she will get the best available care while she awaits her execution date...then we will not need to furnish her any more free care.
You blame everyone for "rushing to judgement" even though we all know the act she committed. Then you make your own "rush to judgement." I guess your "judgement" is somehow better than our "judgement." Well, believe this...the courts will sort it out without any pre-judgement by anyone.
Mamanothappy

United States

#9 Apr 27, 2012
It is not whether she committed the act. You don't know, I don't know what happened to make her snap. Obviously, it's not her nature and totally out of character for her. Only a doctor can try to work this out with her. Doesn't the whole incident sound insane to you?
Im_with_stupid_

New Castle, DE

#10 Apr 27, 2012
I can't believe I just read all this crap. All because you feel you can relate to her does not justify her actions... or your thinking for that matter.
Now what about the woman that died? That kid will grow up with out a mother now, and will probably suffer psychological damage... by the woman you so defend... think for a second without your ego in the equation who the TRUE victim is in this.
Heres another thought for you... say you get drunk, drive a car and kill someone in the process. In court, your "Chemical Imbalance" plea will not stand, and you will be charged with manslaughter, regardless. In this case, you would not blame the government for not having enough drunk driving seminars, etc. Similarly with this woman, you can't blame improper health care. That is a cowards way to reason with things.
She had a choice, it doesn't matter how badly hormonal you feel, you still have free will. She can go ahead and plea "insanity" and the jury might sympothize, only time will tell what the nature of these heinous actions were. Until then, not you, nor I, know a damn thing and so don't pass judgement until all the cards are on the table.
Regardless Mama, I really hope you are playing devil's advocate here because your logic falls short. And generalizing men (ALL) for being ignorant for not understanding your logic also falls short. You are the only ignorant person in this equation, not men... not women... The only thing that sounds insane here was that mother, and you.
Cheers
Im_with_stupid_

New Castle, DE

#11 Apr 27, 2012
Mama, I hope you didn't kill anyone while you were pregnant, and hope that the little logic you possess stopped you from doing so. And the only true institution to blame here is not the health care system but the educational one for your stupidity. =P

“If you believe it, stand by it”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#12 Apr 27, 2012
Mamanothappy wrote:
It is not whether she committed the act. You don't know, I don't know what happened to make her snap. Obviously, it's not her nature and totally out of character for her. Only a doctor can try to work this out with her. Doesn't the whole incident sound insane to you?
No...it sounds like MURDER...that is the only known fact at present. And, only a jury can sort that out. It's OK for a doctor to give testimony, but that is as far as it goes. Let a jury weigh his testimony along with all the other evidence. Quit looking for a reason to excuse her for this act. There is no excuse for it...there is only a dead mother, a motherless child, and a grieving husband.
Mamanothappy

United States

#13 Apr 28, 2012
It amazes me that there's more than one cruel, righteous, over-zealous, judgemental, hate-filled person out there. Do any of you have any experience in losing someone to murder? Or are youall just ranting and raving? It would be understandable. This is a horrific event. But to take the judgement right out of the family's hands and declare yourselves judges, is wrong. Especially if you have no personal experience to draw from.

“If you believe it, stand by it”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#14 Apr 29, 2012
Mamanothappy wrote:
It amazes me that there's more than one cruel, righteous, over-zealous, judgemental, hate-filled person out there. Do any of you have any experience in losing someone to murder? Or are youall just ranting and raving? It would be understandable. This is a horrific event. But to take the judgement right out of the family's hands and declare yourselves judges, is wrong. Especially if you have no personal experience to draw from.
One more time.....
Quit looking for a reason to excuse her for this act. There is no excuse for it...there is only a dead mother, a motherless child, and a grieving husband.

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