Not happy with Heritage Rec Baseball

Not happy with Heritage Rec Baseball

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busysportsmom

Mount Juliet, TN

#1 Jul 11, 2008
Is it just me or has little league become way too political?!
My son (won't give his age/name for obvious reasons!) was picked for All-stars this year but has warmed the bench, along with the same 5-6 other kids in every tournament they've played this summer. He is not the best nor the worst, he is simply not a coach's son and did not play for the head coach's team in the spring league like the 6 kids who have played every minute of every tournament game!
Out of numerous practices, he has missed 2 to visit his grandparents out of state. I even asked for permission from the head coach and was told "No problem." He is 1/2 hour early for every practice and 1 hour early for every game. We even cancelled our family vacation to attend a tournament and he was lucky to play 1-2 innings and bat once per game for the whole weekend! We paid the same fee everyone else did to play!
This has resulted in 2 things....my son has lost confidence in his playing ability because he has been told the "Stronger Players" are playing and the team is divided, parents included, between the "stronger players" and the "weaker players."
The funny thing is we don't see any difference in any of their playing abilities, they are all equally talented and versatile players! Last weekend the coaches picked 4 MVPs for that tournament and guess who got picked...3 coach's sons and 1 coach's grandson!
My husband and I have tried to speak with the coaches but nothing changed. We've already decided to take our son to Franklin next year because the same coaches will be back again!
What ever happened to playing for fun, learning teamwork, etc? These guys have taken away the enjoyment that my son used to have for baseball in just a matter of a couple of months.
Guess what??!! Your kid's no better than mine or any other kid on the team! You just happened to play the politics when we refuse to....loser!
blahdeedah

Maryville, TN

#2 Jul 12, 2008
quit yer whining.. what are you teaching your kid??
if things dont go your way, you whine on a bulletin board?
He's probably being benched because the coaches are tired of your complaining. Shut up, support the team and maybe he'll get to play.
baseballmomtoo

Sweetwater, TN

#3 Jul 13, 2008
I agree with you,busysportsmom, but I wonder if Franklin is the solution. WE, too, have been playing Heritage baseball, but I hear Bethesda is even worse - all cherry picking. I have not complained even once, but guess what? If you can't beat 'em, join 'em....my husband has volunteered to assist coach this fall. At least now my son won't be last on the batting list. By the way, if your son made All Stars, he must be pretty good. Good luck next season!
steelpred

Clarksville, TN

#4 Jul 16, 2008
Board meetings are open to all parents first sunday of each month at the cafeteria in the middle school (I believe). I have complaints too, but this is the way it is at every league and all you can do is organize enough of the parents to show up at the meetings and become involved. The political people thrive on the common parent not going to these things. Try to organize your parents (political group) and do something or you will find it the same in franklin.
geez

United States

#5 Jul 16, 2008
Let it go lady! How old are you? 12? Calling your son's coach a loser on a blog. Are you kidding? Franklin Coaches, good luck with this one.

Since: Jun 08

Spring Hill, TN

#6 Jul 17, 2008
blahdeedah wrote:
quit yer whining.. what are you teaching your kid??
if things dont go your way, you whine on a bulletin board?
He's probably being benched because the coaches are tired of your complaining. Shut up, support the team and maybe he'll get to play.
Bulletins boards were created so people could express their feelings and concerns...My kid doesn't read them! Oh, my husband spoke to the coach once so we are not whiners or complainers!

Since: Jun 08

Spring Hill, TN

#7 Jul 17, 2008
geez wrote:
Let it go lady! How old are you? 12? Calling your son's coach a loser on a blog. Are you kidding? Franklin Coaches, good luck with this one.
FYI...I'm 40 years old, not 12 and yes it may have seemed silly but in my eyes, his coach was a loser! Anybody that belittles a child in front of the whole team or tells them to "shut up and sit down" when they ask to play, is a loser in my opinion. You obviously don't have kids.

Since: Jun 08

Spring Hill, TN

#8 Jul 17, 2008
steelpred wrote:
Board meetings are open to all parents first sunday of each month at the cafeteria in the middle school (I believe). I have complaints too, but this is the way it is at every league and all you can do is organize enough of the parents to show up at the meetings and become involved. The political people thrive on the common parent not going to these things. Try to organize your parents (political group) and do something or you will find it the same in franklin.
What do you do when the coaches and their buddies ARE the board members?

Since: Jun 08

Spring Hill, TN

#9 Jul 17, 2008
steelpred wrote:
Board meetings are open to all parents first sunday of each month at the cafeteria in the middle school (I believe). I have complaints too, but this is the way it is at every league and all you can do is organize enough of the parents to show up at the meetings and become involved. The political people thrive on the common parent not going to these things. Try to organize your parents (political group) and do something or you will find it the same in franklin.
Thanks for the reply and support. We heard the same about Bethesda but are willing to give Franklin a try. Our older son played there from age 5 until he turned 14 and decided to move to Heritage to play with his friends. We really never had any problems. He always played "Majors" and always made the all-star team. There are so many more teams in Franklin than what they have at Heritage so maybe that's why we didn't see a lot of politics then. They were also picky about coaches keeping teams together as they moved up so you really didn't see teams that were stacked. You see a lot of that at Heritage and Bethesda.
bamajaybird

Decatur, GA

#10 Jul 17, 2008
Remember they are kids! I know you want the best for your child but sometimes you have to ride the bench to grow. Its a team sport!
steelpred

Clarksville, TN

#11 Jul 17, 2008
They usually are on the board, but if you get a group of parents together who are willing to put the once a month in at board meetings, they will also get a vote when board positions are free. I believe they can only serve for 3 years in any position. Put your compaint on record at a board meeting and if he is a bad coach, I'm sure others will pile up and he may consider not coaching. Good luck at Franklin.
blahdeedah

Maryville, TN

#12 Jul 17, 2008
why dont you and your husband play ball with little Johnny out in the backyard? its a TEAM SPORT. Everyone cant play all the time.
I sat on the bench my entire Freshman year in COLLEGE, after being ALL STATE my senior year of high school and pitching a no hitter in the state final.

GET OVER IT.
Baseball Dad

Charlotte, NC

#13 Jul 18, 2008
Wow. After reading some of these comments I'm left to wonder who little league is for: The kids? Or the parents? My son was fortunate enough to play on a team who cared as much about his character as they did his performance. He hadn't played in a couple of years and his hitting reflected it. Did he want to play more? Of course. Did he complain about playing time? No. Did I complain? No. Did the coaches still pour into him as a young athlete and developing baseball player? Yes. Admittedly, watching my own son play the game is the highlight of my day. And sure, I'd have loved it if he could have played more. But given the rules for substitution in all-star play, and such, I can understand the coaches decisions and I respect them - as I do the coaches themselves. Speaking for me only, I'm more concerned with the character of our sons and daughters more than I am how many innings they play or where on the field they play. And as a coach, my experience is that character can be built and reflected from the bench as much as it can be on the field. Just my opinion.
Side note: As for the coaches of my son's team (who must certainly be different than those referenced above)...I'm guessing they didn't receive $1.00 for the months spent with my son. I'd be honored to have my son play with those coaches again. Our team was constantly led with a cheer - and a reminder: "Who are we? Heat!" It's about the team. The kids seem to get it. Can't we? Hope you all are fortunate enough to enjoy the league as we did this next year.
blahdeedah

Maryville, TN

#14 Jul 18, 2008
there ya go.. a voice of reason. Someone who GETS IT.
Supportsthecoach

Cleveland, TN

#15 Jul 18, 2008
Sounds a lot like our "Tournament Team". We had 6 players that played all the time and 4-6 that rotated with each other. After rec ball was over it was time to "play ball" Our kids learned a lot and I was sooooooooo greatful to our wonderful coaches AND parents for their commitment and support. If it wasn't for wonderful men like these coaches that step up every season our kids would not play at all. I feel sorry for your son. I hope that he did not get caught up in all your negativity and hateful banter. I hope that no matter what was going on at the field that you were there to support him at every game and every practice as was I with my 3 sons. I feel sorry for you and Franklin and think that Heritage will lose what one day could have been a great baseball player and hope that you find what YOU are looking for (even though I feel that it has become about you and not about your son)
bsdsd-

Manchester, TN

#16 Jul 18, 2008
Well, it seems to me that you might just have your facts mistaken. I have been involved in rec ball and all star ball for awhile now and I believe you need to research why kids get chosen for the all star tournament team before you throw around your insults. The kids chosen are chosen for stats and if you have a problem with that you might want to shut your mouth and open your eyes and read the stats.THEY DON"T LIE!!!!! They are chosen for overall preformance.

I have been on both sides and know for a fact that yes coaches kids are usually good and on the team for a reason but they do try out like everyone else but again look at the stats and I would bet you money that if you put those kids up against yours they probably have out played and preformed your child. Not being ugly or rude here but it is what it is. Nothing wrong with voicing your opinion but be very careful. Ask yourself... Did my kid have a bad attitude, throw his bat, hit things in the dug out, have an umpire address his bad behavior???? Well you maybe need to stop and understand that this is a team sport and if that is the case they can not nor will not ever put a kid in that can't pull his emotions together and get back in the game. It hurts not only himself but also all the other TEAM players he is playing with.

If your child didn't have an attitude problem, then maybe you might want to work with them in the fall. Give them the lessons to better themselves and hone in on what areas they were not as competitve in and then in the sping let them try out and see how they do. Hard work pays off and nothing is given. YOu might be under the impression that positions are given just because you are a coach but I know for a fact that if the kids we were associated with weren't on or were emotional they would be benched just like everyone else.

There were great teams this year with the heritage groups and these coaches gave their time and didn't earn 1 cent.

My advice is to stop complaing and just know that reputations follow and what a shame for the children that just want to play ball. Another note, YOU might want to coach....
steelpred

Clarksville, TN

#17 Jul 18, 2008
August 17th at 4 and Longview Rec. Center the league is voting on open offices.
volfan

Manchester, TN

#18 Jul 19, 2008
I guess I am a little confused. I know for a fact that the coaches on this particular team were not only looking out for the best interest of the kids but their main focus was to teach the kids the fundamentals of this game and get them to a competitive level. They not only did that but they did it with encouragement and praise. Yes they did get firm with their kids if they were continually argumentative with the coaches and had attitude issues.

I distinctly remember the coaches, esp. the head coach, calling a parent coach meeting and hitting this issue head on. WHERE WERE YOU? We know YOU weren't there so you can't sit here and say these things. They were all addressed and ALL the parents there understood what had happened. The 2 people who weren't at this meeting are the one's complaining. The coaches did their jobs and did them well and ALL our kids came out better for it.
blahdeedah

Maryville, TN

#19 Jul 19, 2008
she's prolly a democrat. one step away from a socialist.
:)
Jim Smith

Spring Hill, TN

#20 Aug 2, 2008
In response to your commits, I have also dealt with similiar situations. Unfortunately, wherever you decide to play you will have political issues. If you decide to go to Franklin i do not think you will see any difference. As far as having fun, a lot of parents and coaches take it very serious and it becomes very competitive. Baseball for my family could be a college education. I wish you luck on your new team and hope you can find a fair coach.Ps, practice your child until he or she is the best and their is no question. Thats what we did. Get involved with the coaches as well.

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