Buttercup Farms developer won't install curbs, sidewalks

A developer won't be required to install curbs and sidewalks along a stretch of Route 194 as initially planned, and the eventual installation might be paid for by those who buy homes in the Buttercup Farms ...

[Frank]

Passing the costs on to unsuspecting homebuyers is nothing new from developers or municipalities - regardless of how unfair or low down it is.

Sidewalks would be welcomed in my area, as new people in developments close to main roads think nothing of walking their dogs and babies two and three abreast out on the road, morning, noon and night. You would think that if they were smart enough to afford a nice house in a nice area, that they would be smart enough to figure that they are risking their lives as well as the safety of drivers.

[Dogwood]

This whole project has never addressed the two land route 194 traffic it will create????
It is overcrowded now.
Rather pathetic!

[Annie]

We can all thank our clueless supervisors for this. Was John awake during this discussion or was he sleeping as he usually does during the meetings?
And Steph, where did you get the numbers you are quoting? If I remember right, the Code Officer spoke up against this waiver during last months meeting.

[Annette Ritchie]

I am not familiar with that area but I would think if a developer is putting up housing, they should be responsible for the sidewalks. And if they are not sure about the future yet, then don't build the houses yet until they are sure.

And also, it should be in the contract for the homeowner when buying, that they are responsible for the sidewalk, etc. Most people would like this convenience before they even buy.

And with the way the housing market is right now, why even bother building?

[Missy Franklin]

Why not have the builder put money in an escrow account to cover the costs of the sidewalks, when they are required?

[jen]

most of the people moving into these new homes are transplants from dc & maryland, oh well! move back to where you came from!

[Bil98z24]

Missy Franklin wrote:

Why not have the builder put money in an escrow account to cover the costs of the sidewalks, when they are required?

Build them now. Poor planning. And dumb idea.

[Steve]

Bil98z24, if you would have read the article, it say the curb installation isn't required, at this time. When it is required, who pays the cost? The builder, who made a nice profit on the home or a homeowner, can't afford a couple thousand dollar curb bill? Stick to trolling on the drug thread!

[Bil98z24]

Steve you are a poor excuse for a human being. I read the article. Build the sidewalks and curbs now. The builder should be required to install them. If they are going to be needed in the future do it now. The builder can easily install curbs and sidewalks while construction is on-going. Not building them now is called poor planning and it is a dumb idea. Do you understand that?

Where did you learn to do such great analyst of a newspaper article? Clown college? I betcha you can tell me the answer to 1 + 1. Idiot.

[Kats meow]

Bil:
It's too late. The supervisors of the township have already allowed the builder to pass off the sidewalks and curbs to the homeowners. I am totally confused as to why they thought this would be the thing to do! I know that if I was looking to buy a house and was told that I would have to put in my own sidewalks and curbs, I would pass on the house. There are plenty other houses out there which have sidewalks and curbs already installed.
These are the same supervisors that passed an ordinance to have sprinkler systems installed in multi-family dwellings "for the safety of the inhabitants" but yet waive the installing of sidewalks and curbs creating an unsafe environment for the people along a busy highway. What in God's name are these 3 thinking?
And despite Stephanie Egger's claim that she researched the cost of installing the sidewalks, she simply used the figures the Code Enforcement Officer quoted at the monthly supervisors meeting. Kudos to him for knowing his job and shame on Stephanie for claiming the information as her own.

[Steve]

Bil98z24 wrote:

Steve you are a poor excuse for a human being. I read the article. Build the sidewalks and curbs now. The builder should be required to install them. If they are going to be needed in the future do it now. The builder can easily install curbs and sidewalks while construction is on-going. Not building them now is called poor planning and it is a dumb idea. Do you understand that?
Where did you learn to do such great analyst of a newspaper article? Clown college? I betcha you can tell me the answer to 1 + 1. Idiot.

You're a real tough guy, sitting behind the computer. It's easy calling people names, when there is no chance of them knocking your teeth, down your throat.

[Bil98z24]

What is wrong with the developer installing the curbs now when they will be needed in the future?

I have nothing to fear from a clown such as your self. If I did see you in person, I'd say the same thing. If you wanna knock my teeth down my throat, go for it. I survive in life by making sure everyone knows this:

I do not differentiate between an enemy and his/her/it's family.

[Bil98z24]

Kats meow wrote:

Bil:
It's too late. The supervisors of the township have already allowed the builder to pass off the sidewalks and curbs to the homeowners. I am totally confused as to why they thought this would be the thing to do! I know that if I was looking to buy a house and was told that I would have to put in my own sidewalks and curbs, I would pass on the house. There are plenty other houses out there which have sidewalks and curbs already installed.
These are the same supervisors that passed an ordinance to have sprinkler systems installed in multi-family dwellings "for the safety of the inhabitants" but yet waive the installing of sidewalks and curbs creating an unsafe environment for the people along a busy highway. What in God's name are these 3 thinking?
And despite Stephanie Egger's claim that she researched the cost of installing the sidewalks, she simply used the figures the Code Enforcement Officer quoted at the monthly supervisors meeting. Kudos to him for knowing his job and shame on Stephanie for claiming the information as her own.

It is almost mind-blowing why the developer is not being forced to install curbs and sidewalks, when everyone seems to agree they will be needed in the future.

Local Government, State Government, Federal Government, they all leave you scratching your head in disbelief.

[Kats meow]

Absolutely mind-blowing!
However, you can't fault everyone in government. You really have to look and see who it is that IS causing all the problems. Those are the ones we need to vote out and get rid of once and for all. I don't know if you have ever sat in on the supervisor meetings, but to keep from answering for their poor decisions they quickly stop taking questions, pound the gavel and move to the next issue. It is truly a circus.

[Steve]

Bil98z24 wrote:

What is wrong with the developer installing the curbs now when they will be needed in the future?

It was stated in the article the the road may be widened and the sidewalks/curbs would have to be redone.

Like I said before, have the builder put money into an escrow account, to pay for the sidewalks/curbs when they are needed. Make Test responsible for the cost.

[Bil98z24]

Steve wrote:

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It was stated in the article the the road may be widened and the sidewalks/curbs would have to be redone.
Like I said before, have the builder put money into an escrow account, to pay for the sidewalks/curbs when they are needed. Make Test responsible for the cost.

The builder mine as well do it now. It makes no sense to put money aside if the cost of everything continues to rise. It will cost more in the future to build then now.

While construction is on-going, it is easier to start a project such as that.

Family's moving into houses do not want no access to sidewalks, curbs etc... if they have kids. And I highly doubt they would want to pay to have them installed a later date. That does not say much for the builder other than "I'm cheap" or "I don't want it to be safe.

Its stupid the developer isn't being required to do the sidewalks/curbs now. Completely stupid.

[Bil98z24]

Kats meow wrote:

Absolutely mind-blowing!
However, you can't fault everyone in government. You really have to look and see who it is that IS causing all the problems. Those are the ones we need to vote out and get rid of once and for all. I don't know if you have ever sat in on the supervisor meetings, but to keep from answering for their poor decisions they quickly stop taking questions, pound the gavel and move to the next issue. It is truly a circus.

I have seen videos of a supervisor meeting. Another townships meeting of coarse. I do know what you mean. Those people have power, and they do not want their judgment criticized. Moving on to another subject is an effective way to cut out all discussion on the mater. It is truly a circus complete with clowns.:-)

[Frank]

Bil98z24 wrote:

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I have seen videos of a supervisor meeting. Another townships meeting of coarse. I do know what you mean. Those people have power, and they do not want their judgment criticized. Moving on to another subject is an effective way to cut out all discussion on the mater. It is truly a circus complete with clowns.:-)

Correct! The old saying, "You can't fight city hall." is not popular for no reason. But that doesn't mean the folks should just give up and go home. That makes it easy for the "leaders".

[Bil98z24]

Frank wrote:

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Correct! The old saying, "You can't fight city hall." is not popular for no reason. But that doesn't mean the folks should just give up and go home. That makes it easy for the "leaders".

Good Point. Make them work for their way above everyone else's pay salaries.

[Kats meow]

Bil98z24 wrote:

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Good Point. Make them work for their way above everyone else's pay salaries.

I don't think the supervisors get paid. Aren't they elected to a non-paying position? Either way, these folks are supposed to be working for the township and not for their own benefit. Look at what the supervisors have done just recently. They put one of the supervisors in the position of Office Manager just so she could get her hands into everyone's business and get paid to do it! There must be a way to get rid of them. If they stay in office for the length of their terms, we will all be sorry!