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Woman killed in collision with state trooper

There are 99 comments on the Asheville Citizen-Times story from Oct 7, 2007, titled Woman killed in collision with state trooper. In it, Asheville Citizen-Times reports that:

A 72-year-old Rutherfordton woman was killed Saturday when she pulled her car in front of a N.C. State Highway Patrol officer who was attempting to make a traffic stop.

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Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#100 Oct 9, 2007
David wrote:
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What about the witnesses who are not involved in law enforcement. They said that she pulled out in front of the troopers vehicle. She failed to yield the right of way. She was at fault!
If you had witnessed this accident I seriously doubt you would tell the truth given your view of LEO.
Well, I wasn't a witness so it's a moot point.

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#101 Oct 9, 2007
WNCNATIVE wrote:
<quoted text>While you're googling, check out www.odmp.org and get back to me. Idiot.
Name-calling shows a lack of confidence in your position.
Fed Up

Raleigh, NC

#102 Oct 9, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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Name-calling shows a lack of confidence in your position.
Ignoring the other parts of someone's post shows your lack of credibility.

I'll ask for a third time...What about the wreck in McDowell County where the SHP determined the Deputy was at fault?

Does that not count because it discredits your theory that you don't trust police to honestly investigate other police?

And by the way, does looking at The Officer Down Memorial Page have any affect on you?

Since: Apr 07

WNC

#103 Oct 9, 2007
Don't argue with her Fed Up. She's the one that wants to sue APD/BCSO/SHP because they have deeper pockets then the CRIMINAL that actually hit her ex-husband.

But its kinda hard to do that when the USSC ruled that officers now have protection from being sued when they are in a chase.

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#104 Oct 9, 2007
Fed Up wrote:
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Ignoring the other parts of someone's post shows your lack of credibility.
I'll ask for a third time...What about the wreck in McDowell County where the SHP determined the Deputy was at fault?
Does that not count because it discredits your theory that you don't trust police to honestly investigate other police?
And by the way, does looking at The Officer Down Memorial Page have any affect on you?
I guess it depends on whether it is a "media" case or not. It would have been hard to not blame the trooper in McDowell with so many people waiting for the results.

As for your question about the Office Down page, I haven't seen it. I don't want cops to be killed in the line of duty, if that is what your snide remark implies. I just want them to be careful and not think they are above the law. Is that asking too much?

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#105 Oct 9, 2007
Techman wrote:
Don't argue with her Fed Up. She's the one that wants to sue APD/BCSO/SHP because they have deeper pockets then the CRIMINAL that actually hit her ex-husband.
But its kinda hard to do that when the USSC ruled that officers now have protection from being sued when they are in a chase.
Techman, I expected better from you. I suppose the case you are referring to the case out of Georgia, that was the BAD GUY who was injured, not an innocent party. Our case is more like the one in Jackson County where the trooper was found grossly negligent in his high speed pursuit that killed two women. We'll just have to wait and see how it all turns out. And Walt remains in a wheelchair and in a lot of pain. Not that you care.

“Not as smart as I look.....”

Since: Oct 07

Leicester

#106 Oct 9, 2007
I hope the driver who was speeding in the first place has thier eyeballs catch fire and their head explode from guilt. He or she is truly to blame. Slow down people. I've been in enough wrecks to know. SLOW DOWN, you'll get there.
David

Asheville, NC

#107 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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They haven't even done the accident reconstruction yet so we'll just have to see what they determine actually happened. Not that I trust cops to investigate other cops.
Aren't you one of the people on this post that was ready to burn Brandon Watson at the stake before the reconstruction? You were all over that weren't you? Now when it looks like the trooper is not at fault all of a sudden you need to wait for the reconstruction.

I don't know what you have against LEO's but you sure have a bad case of it. By the way, we do police our own. I am charged with that duty where I work. Sometimes we are wrong but most of the time we are right. When we are wrong we deal with it appropriately to include termination. You would not believe the number of bogus or spite complaints that we receive. Regardless of the complaint it is checked out throughly. You're the reason. I don't want to give people like you any ideas that we cover up anything.

Regardless of whether the complaint is real or bogus and it is handled in a timely and appropriate fashion people like you are never going to believe us if we did nothing wrong. You will not let yourself believe otherwise. I really feel sorry for people like you. You are the kind of person who would lie on someone if you did not like them or their profession, may God help you and others like you.
David

Asheville, NC

#108 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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Well, I wasn't a witness so it's a moot point.
If you were I wouldn't trust what you had to say. Given your view of law enforcement I have a gut feeling that you would lie. You're pathetic!

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#109 Oct 10, 2007
David wrote:
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Aren't you one of the people on this post that was ready to burn Brandon Watson at the stake before the reconstruction? You were all over that weren't you? Now when it looks like the trooper is not at fault all of a sudden you need to wait for the reconstruction.
I don't know what you have against LEO's but you sure have a bad case of it. By the way, we do police our own. I am charged with that duty where I work. Sometimes we are wrong but most of the time we are right. When we are wrong we deal with it appropriately to include termination. You would not believe the number of bogus or spite complaints that we receive. Regardless of the complaint it is checked out throughly. You're the reason. I don't want to give people like you any ideas that we cover up anything.
Regardless of whether the complaint is real or bogus and it is handled in a timely and appropriate fashion people like you are never going to believe us if we did nothing wrong. You will not let yourself believe otherwise. I really feel sorry for people like you. You are the kind of person who would lie on someone if you did not like them or their profession, may God help you and others like you.
Who do you think you are accusing me of lying? I have worked somewhat closely with LE for many, many years and would never lie against a cop. There would be no need to. Cops screw up enough that lying isn't necessary.
Fed Up

Chapel Hill, NC

#110 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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Cops screw up enough that lying isn't necessary.
And you just proved his point.

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#111 Oct 10, 2007
Fed Up wrote:
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And you just proved his point.
http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/125/s...

And this, along with many others, proves my point.

Have a wonderful afternoon.

“Why do ya need to know that?”

Since: Feb 07

Leicester

#112 Oct 10, 2007
David, some of us are thankful for the jobs that law enforcement do.

I just dont see, in this instance, why so many are blaming and condemning them. The lady who died pulled out in front of the trooper. It wasnt his fault. And Im sure all of you dream at night of killing innocent victims.(Sarcasm).

In this area, I feel for all of you. Doing a job for very little pay, putting yourselves in danger and for what? So the public at large can abuse you.

It looks like a no-win situation, but it isnt. I, for one, appreciate the fact that several are willing to do a job for protection of the masses while being condemned by the same group.

“Not as smart as I look.....”

Since: Oct 07

Leicester

#113 Oct 10, 2007
Dunnin wrote:
David, some of us are thankful for the jobs that law enforcement do.
I just dont see, in this instance, why so many are blaming and condemning them. The lady who died pulled out in front of the trooper. It wasnt his fault. And Im sure all of you dream at night of killing innocent victims.(Sarcasm).
In this area, I feel for all of you. Doing a job for very little pay, putting yourselves in danger and for what? So the public at large can abuse you.
It looks like a no-win situation, but it isnt. I, for one, appreciate the fact that several are willing to do a job for protection of the masses while being condemned by the same group.
Well said Dunster. I still blame the speeding driver. Bad chain of events.....
Fed Up

Chapel Hill, NC

#114 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle-old/125/s...
And this, along with many others, proves my point.
Have a wonderful afternoon.
Lets just do some basic number crunching...there are about 850,000 sworn police officers in the United States. The article that you provided names about 10 (I didn't read the whole thing...look at the title of the website. That is going to be even more biased than the ultra-liberal media).

Would you like me to pull up statistics for teachers who have abused children, Catholic priests who have molested children, postal workers who have gone on shooting rampage, volunteer firefighters that set fires (aka arson), CEO's who cook the books, etc.?

Every single profession has plenty of bad apples. Why don't you find articles about the countless law enforcement officers who risk their lives daily for the public that would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat if it benefits their agenda? There are millions of interactions between civilians and law enforcement officers around the country everyday that are nothing but professional and by the books. Do you ever hear about those? Nope, they don't sell stories for the media.

Have fun with your agenda. I hope it fails miserably.

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#115 Oct 10, 2007
Fed Up wrote:
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Lets just do some basic number crunching...there are about 850,000 sworn police officers in the United States. The article that you provided names about 10 (I didn't read the whole thing...look at the title of the website. That is going to be even more biased than the ultra-liberal media).
Would you like me to pull up statistics for teachers who have abused children, Catholic priests who have molested children, postal workers who have gone on shooting rampage, volunteer firefighters that set fires (aka arson), CEO's who cook the books, etc.?
Every single profession has plenty of bad apples. Why don't you find articles about the countless law enforcement officers who risk their lives daily for the public that would throw them under the bus in a heartbeat if it benefits their agenda? There are millions of interactions between civilians and law enforcement officers around the country everyday that are nothing but professional and by the books. Do you ever hear about those? Nope, they don't sell stories for the media.
Have fun with your agenda. I hope it fails miserably.
My only agenda is truth. I doubt you would understand that concept.
Fed Up

Chapel Hill, NC

#116 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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My only agenda is truth. I doubt you would understand that concept.
Will you acknowledge the other points raised in my post?

I will not back anyone who breaks the law, police officers included. I am not employed any form of a law enforcement capacity, however, I tend to trust their honesty and integrity over people like yourself. I've never been treated unfairly or unjustly by anyone in the CJ system. I received a speeding ticket. It was my fault. I was respectful to the police officer and guess what? He treated me with respect.

If the Trooper were to be deemed he was at fault and reckless (which from initial reports he is not), than so be it. Let the our lawsuit hungry society swarm in. That seems to be the popular thing to do nowadays. Everyone wants to strike it rich.

If those police officers are guilty of what the drug website accuses them of, then they deserve to be punished just as anyone else would.

Your accusations about me not understanding the concept of honesty are about the furthest from the truth, but there is no sense attempting to defend myself against someone like yourself over an online message board.

Since: May 07

Sherrills Ford, NC

#117 Oct 10, 2007
Fed Up wrote:
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Will you acknowledge the other points raised in my post?
I will not back anyone who breaks the law, police officers included. I am not employed any form of a law enforcement capacity, however, I tend to trust their honesty and integrity over people like yourself. I've never been treated unfairly or unjustly by anyone in the CJ system. I received a speeding ticket. It was my fault. I was respectful to the police officer and guess what? He treated me with respect.
If the Trooper were to be deemed he was at fault and reckless (which from initial reports he is not), than so be it. Let the our lawsuit hungry society swarm in. That seems to be the popular thing to do nowadays. Everyone wants to strike it rich.
If those police officers are guilty of what the drug website accuses them of, then they deserve to be punished just as anyone else would.
Your accusations about me not understanding the concept of honesty are about the furthest from the truth, but there is no sense attempting to defend myself against someone like yourself over an online message board.
Your last sentence sums up my feelings as well.

I only hope no one in your family is ever seriously injured or killed by law enforcement officers.
David

Asheville, NC

#118 Oct 10, 2007
mlc9852 wrote:
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Who do you think you are accusing me of lying? I have worked somewhat closely with LE for many, many years and would never lie against a cop. There would be no need to. Cops screw up enough that lying isn't necessary.
I absolutely believe you would lie. Your hatred for law enforcement is so severe I don't think you could help yourself. If as you say you have worked with LE for many years you know that the vast majority are dedicated,hardworking, honest people. I'm not saying that we don't make mistakes and sometimes screw up royally. But from what you're saying is that we are all a bunch of boobs who can't find out butts. Since you are one of those folks who like to tell us how stupid we are I have a suggestion. If you really want to find out if LEO's cover up for each other find a BLET class and sign up. If you make it through that find a job and see. There is a bond among LEOs I will not deny that. However, I will tell you this. I have been in law enforcement since the 70's and have seen alot. There is no way that I will risk losing my certification much less going to prison for lying for a fellow co-worker. As a matter of fact I put one of my co-workers in prison for 15 years for a crime that they committed. I had known this man for years but that did not change the facts that he was guilty.

That's my fault with you. You don't seem to understand or care that we actually want the same thing, the truth, innocent until proven guilty. You seem to believe that LEO's are guilty until proven innocent. Unless you take my challenge to become an LEO, we're the best you've got like it or not.

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