D&C Nestor Ramos Fails to Report the Whole Story

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RFCBF

Rochester, NY

#1 Mar 9, 2014
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/story/new...

Ramos leaves out that a 17 yr old girl would have to go up in front of the room and act out this word in front of other students. What if she didn't want to?

I don't mind my kids swearing or hearing swear words or their teacher writing swear words.
The story is not about swear words and the use of them.
The story is about making kids in school that are not old enough to buy a porn magazine to get up in front of a class at act out sex acts in front of all the other students.
This is something that wouldn't even occur in a sexual education class.

Nestor Ramos and the people that defend this teacher really need to think about what they are defending, and if they are defending it like Nestor Ramos is, then at lest include the whole story in you story. Nestor Ramos didn't mention that 17yr olds that had to act the word out, or how he would have no problem in all the students in the class even watch his own daughter (if he had one) act out a sexual act in front of the class.
RFCBF

Rochester, NY

#2 Mar 9, 2014
Bob Lonsberry is a supporter of the teacher too.
And Bob, like Nestor Ramos leaves out the part of the story that that the kids would have to act out the sex act in front of the class.
Bob didn't even know what the word was, and his show only said it started with a "C", meaning Bob and his show must have only thought it was one 4 letter word.
Bob acted as if it was no big deal, but he never mention that a 17 yr old girl would have to act out sex acts in front of the class.
I guess Bob wouldn't mind if his adult daughter or even under age daughter should us all how they would suk a golf ball through a garden hose?????
rochmetro

Brockport, NY

#3 Mar 9, 2014
I am firmly in your corner on this one.
What a terrible article. Amazing so many parents defend this teacher. Their only excuse seems to be the kids have heard the word before and they should be teaching vulgar words as part of teaching all the language. LOL.
So it is aOK for all teachers to start using this word in the classroom..? These parents must think so. Nestor too.
Rhondas Friend

Rochester, NY

#4 Mar 9, 2014
rochmetro wrote:
I am firmly in your corner on this one.
What a terrible article. Amazing so many parents defend this teacher. Their only excuse seems to be the kids have heard the word before and they should be teaching vulgar words as part of teaching all the language. LOL.
So it is aOK for all teachers to start using this word in the classroom..? These parents must think so. Nestor too.
She wasn't teaching vulgar words, she was making underage children act out sexual acts in front of the class.

It's NOT about curse words, it's about kids being made to re-enact sexual acts in-front of the whole class. It's porn, child porn, it's Pedophilia.
rochmetro

Brockport, NY

#5 Mar 9, 2014
Teaching...written on the board..acting out..I wasn't there..it doesn't belong in the classroom in any capacity. I called the teacher a pedophile earlier..you copying.?agreeing.?.disagreein g ??
Strange.
dew4794

Rochester, NY

#6 Mar 9, 2014
And while we are at it, let's clean-up the trash talk at locker rooms. Anything that teacher could have done would pale in comparison to what goes on in athletics.
Molehills

United States

#7 Mar 10, 2014
Rhondas Friend wrote:
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She wasn't teaching vulgar words, she was making underage children act out sexual acts in front of the class.
It's NOT about curse words, it's about kids being made to re-enact sexual acts in-front of the whole class. It's porn, child porn, it's Pedophilia.
You need to learn the definition of paedophilia. HS seniors is not pedophilia and most being 17-18, are the legal age of consent. Paedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
I'm sure if the anyone said they were uncomfortable with the word or especially acting it out, the teacher would not force them to do it.
It's not porn and it's not paedophilia. It's ribaldry.
Molehills

United States

#8 Mar 10, 2014
RFCBF wrote:
Bob Lonsberry is a supporter of the teacher too.
And Bob, like Nestor Ramos leaves out the part of the story that that the kids would have to act out the sex act in front of the class.
Bob didn't even know what the word was, and his show only said it started with a "C", meaning Bob and his show must have only thought it was one 4 letter word.
Bob acted as if it was no big deal, but he never mention that a 17 yr old girl would have to act out sex acts in front of the class.
I guess Bob wouldn't mind if his adult daughter or even under age daughter should us all how they would suk a golf ball through a garden hose?????
The teacher never had 17 year old girls acting it out. She asked them mime it.
Your comparisons are weak and trite. Again there obviously was no objection from any of the students. You act like it's 7th graders or something.
rochmetro

Brockport, NY

#9 Mar 10, 2014
Teachers don't lower themselves to the conversation levels of teens. If you think just because they know the word it's OK to write and discuss vulagrity you are missing the point entirely. Cock sucker is'nt even used in sex ed. Professional teachers know better. This teacher sound sounds sorely lacking in judgement..almost to a laughable level.
rochmetro

Brockport, NY

#10 Mar 10, 2014
Plus..most places of employment don't tolerate an employee embarrassing them publicly. They shut this one down quickly. Probably more to her file we don't know about.
yet to be determined

Rochester, NY

#12 Mar 10, 2014
Molehills wrote:
<quoted text>You need to learn the definition of paedophilia. HS seniors is not pedophilia and most being 17-18, are the legal age of consent. Paedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
I'm sure if the anyone said they were uncomfortable with the word or especially acting it out, the teacher would not force them to do it.
It's not porn and it's not paedophilia. It's ribaldry.
It was clearly Pedophilia for the adult teacher to allow and witness 16 yr old girls acting out a BJ's in front of 16 yr old boys. If it was no big deal then why not let me see your 16yr old daughter act out a BJ??
dew4794

Rochester, NY

#13 Mar 10, 2014
Rondas Friend had it almost right, not pedophile but ephebophilia, attraction to youth 14-16 girls and 14-18 boys.
Molehills wrote:
<quoted text>You need to learn the definition of paedophilia. HS seniors is not pedophilia and most being 17-18, are the legal age of consent. Paedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children.
I'm sure if the anyone said they were uncomfortable with the word or especially acting it out, the teacher would not force them to do it.
It's not porn and it's not paedophilia. It's ribaldry.
Ha Ha

Fairport, NY

#14 Mar 10, 2014
This whole acting out sex axe is part of the new "Common Core" curriculum. NY state is a big supporter of this!
Davie Z

Rochester, NY

#15 Mar 10, 2014
Why does the D&C allow many if it's people like Nestor Ramos to do stories in-which they leave a big part of the story out?????

Obviously this story was more about kids acting out sexual acts in front of the class and not just a swear word, yet he leaves that part out for some reason and the bosses at the D&C allow it.
Molehills

United States

#16 Mar 10, 2014
yet to be determined wrote:
<quoted text>
It was clearly Pedophilia for the adult teacher to allow and witness 16 yr old girls acting out a BJ's in front of 16 yr old boys. If it was no big deal then why not let me see your 16yr old daughter act out a BJ??
Not it is not Paedophilia is prepubescent. No one acted it out. They mimed it. Acting it out would be giving a BJ.

“ I DO WHAT I LIKE............ .”

Since: Mar 14

AND I LIKE WHAT I DO!!!!!!!!!!

#17 Mar 10, 2014
dew4794 wrote:
Rondas Friend had it almost right, not pedophile but ephebophilia, attraction to youth 14-16 girls and 14-18 boys.
<quoted text>
Not Rhonda's friend at all.
Exactly though... It's not Paedophilia, Hebephilia, or ephebophilia. The teacher didn't have sex or express any attraction to the students, She only treated them like the young adults they really are. Maybe if people quite acting like 17-18 year olds are still children. They won't still act like spoiled bratty teenagers at 25
yet to be determined

Rochester, NY

#18 Mar 10, 2014
Molehills wrote:
<quoted text>Not it is not Paedophilia is prepubescent. No one acted it out. They mimed it. Acting it out would be giving a BJ.
Suzie could get a banana out of her lunch and act out a BJ on the banana.
yet to be determined

Rochester, NY

#19 Mar 10, 2014
FTW Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Not Rhonda's friend at all.
The teacher didn't have sex or express any attraction to the students,
How do you know what the teacher was feeling while watching a 16yr old cute girl give a banana a BJ in front of all those young innocent 16yr old boys???
How do you know she didn't get off on the look of the boys faces or the growing bulge in their pants?? how do you know she did go to the bathroom and finger herself after watching it all happen??

“ I DO WHAT I LIKE............ .”

Since: Mar 14

AND I LIKE WHAT I DO!!!!!!!!!!

#20 Mar 10, 2014
yet to be determined wrote:
<quoted text>
How do you know what the teacher was feeling while watching a 16yr old cute girl give a banana a BJ in front of all those young innocent 16yr old boys???
How do you know she didn't get off on the look of the boys faces or the growing bulge in their pants?? how do you know she did go to the bathroom and finger herself after watching it all happen??
Read the post very carefully. Use a dictionary if need be while you do it.
I said the teacher DIDN'T EVER EXPRESS any sexual attraction to the students. I'm amaking no assumptions on it. Those who are saying she has an inappropriate age based paraphilia are the one's who are making baseless assumptions. In the real world it the burden of proof lies on proving something is. You can never really prove something isn't. I don't know waht the teacher was thinking and neither does the person calling her pervert.
By the way Hebephilia (Attraction to fully developed teens) is not considered an actual paraphilia by any psychologist. Paedophilia is, but there is a clear distinction between the two and neither are at all related.
semper fi forever

Rochester, NY

#21 Mar 10, 2014
FTW Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Read the post very carefully. Use a dictionary if need be while you do it.
I said the teacher DIDN'T EVER EXPRESS any sexual attraction to the students. I'm amaking no assumptions on it. Those who are saying she has an inappropriate age based paraphilia are the one's who are making baseless assumptions. In the real world it the burden of proof lies on proving something is. You can never really prove something isn't. I don't know waht the teacher was thinking and neither does the person calling her pervert.
By the way Hebephilia (Attraction to fully developed teens) is not considered an actual paraphilia by any psychologist. Paedophilia is, but there is a clear distinction between the two and neither are at all related.
I don't think she should have quit her job because of it, I think she should have been fired and arrested. If I'm a work in a company any company that hires 16 and 17 year olds, I'd get fired if I made sexual remarks around them or if I ask them to act out a BJ.
I also think if she was an old male teacher getting 16 yr olds girls to act out a BJ, this would be a whole different story.

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