Car dealers scam posting as owners on...
DMV Friend

Alden, NY

#425 Mar 2, 2014
Hey genius I dont know who you are !!

But then again what to expect when you cant read as CL CLEARLY points out for sale by owner !!!

You claim that CL is a free website and it is for owners. You low end dealers that sell crappy auction cars are required to pay a 5 dollar fee... what is wrong will that break your deep pockets ?

I guess that is what happens when you can a 6th education.
Tommy Rules

Alden, NY

#426 Mar 2, 2014
Looks like we have a pissed off dealer on here ...

It took long enough for one to be heard
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#428 Mar 2, 2014
It's actually fun to make the lowlife dealer think I'm going to buy his junk...get to the point of signing and back out.....I love watching their face ...it's precious...if I can waste an hour or two it makes my day....ha..ha..
Hey Cody....keep an eye out for me...Your right I am crazy....
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#429 Mar 2, 2014
Sickofbs wrote:
It's actually fun to make the lowlife dealer think I'm going to buy his junk...get to the point of signing and back out.....I love watching their face ...it's precious...if I can waste an hour or two it makes my day....ha..ha..
Hey Cody....keep an eye out for me...Your right I am crazy....
If you don't work and have no credit, no-one here will waste much time with you.
We can spot losers as you pull in the lot in your old ghetto banger.
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#430 Mar 2, 2014
And I have to point out that I'm sure all of our sales men make more money then you make on the EBT.
Maybe you should do some research to see how much we make, as obviously you don't have a clue.
Dorky Dave

Alden, NY

#431 Mar 2, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
Maybe you should do some research to see how much we make, as obviously you don't have a clue.
If you are making so much money then please explain why you cant afford to pay the 5 dollar fee to craigslist to advertise as a dealer. Why is it that you try to hide the fact that you are selling dealer cars.

After all that is the bottom line with this topic. Why dealers post as owners !
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#432 Mar 2, 2014
Dorky Dave wrote:
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If you are making so much money then please explain why you cant afford to pay the 5 dollar fee to craigslist to advertise as a dealer. Why is it that you try to hide the fact that you are selling dealer cars.
After all that is the bottom line with this topic. Why dealers post as owners !
maybe we got permission from cl to post how ever we want?
how do you know what we pay?
have you called the number in our ad?
we you call did we hide any facts?
we dont need to explain anything to you.
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#433 Mar 2, 2014
come see me little man. punks like you need to be taught a few lessons.
Dorky Dave

Alden, NY

#434 Mar 2, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
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maybe we got permission from cl to post how ever we want?
I would doubt that very much as craigslist stated PRIVATE PARTYS ONLY

NO DEALERS !!!!!!!!!!

Sounds to me like a classic case of false advertisement and folks like Sick have the state looking at those who are guilty.

You still have not answered the question of why you just do not post as dealers ... what are you all trying to hide ??
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#435 Mar 2, 2014
You don't own CL.
If you did, you could tell me what to do on it, but you don't.
Now go away.
You have no money to buy a car anyways.
Cl is a privately own company and I can do what ever I want there, if you don't like it then don't go on it.
CL Spam

Rochester, NY

#436 Mar 3, 2014
I've enjoyed this topic for some time now. In a previous post I published the NYS Attorney General's pamphlet on Dealers and Advertising. Long story short, "Thou shalt not mislead". Fairness and honesty are paramount (probably to compensate for the sins of the past).

Free, cheap, whatever, Craigslist IS an advertising medium just as is a sign on your window. CL only has 30 employees world wide so they are somewhat limited as to how they can deal with scammers and spammers. That's why they setup and encourage community policing but due to the volume of scams and spams even Flaggers are limited in what they can do.

Craigslist has always been a community service first and money second. Scams and Spams hurt Craigslist's reputation which, overtime, can and will jeopardize their revenue stream thus their viability.

Dealers who post as owners are wrong on so many counts well, I haven't enough fingers :-)

Also wrong are Dealers who violate other Craigslist rules such as only 1 Ad per car and only 1 car per Ad, advertising services (e.g., financing or insurance) rather than a car and so on.

Here's what we can do as consumers:
* Continue flagging violators
* Continue to shame and shun violators
* Avoid Dealers who abuse Craigslist

Remember a Dealer who violates rules and guidelines is VERY likely to violate you! I rarely go to Craigslist to look for cars anymore. Rather I go to Craigslist to find Dealers I will NOT do business with!
Dorky Dave

Alden, NY

#437 Mar 3, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
You have no money to buy a car anyways.

Cl is a privately own company and I can do what ever I want there, if you don't like it then don't go on it.
It is idiots like you that are ruining a good thing Craigslist. But thanks for being honest yes that must be hard for someone in your profession. Now I can simply copy this post in my email to craigslist this morning to see how dealers feel that they are entitled to get away with scamming people.

You can only dream that you have the cash that I have in my retirement account. I just know if I was in your so called profession I could afford to pay a 5 dollar fee to advertise. Must really suck to be in your shoes to have your dealership run through the mud over not being able to afford a 5 dollar fee. Talk about being broke have fun grocery shopping today at the dollar store.
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#438 Mar 3, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
<quoted text>
If you don't work and have no credit, no-one here will waste much time with you.
We can spot losers as you pull in the lot in your old ghetto banger.
Well, junior,...I've done my working....I'm retired, I don't need to work, I pick and choose what I want to do to keep busy....I am looking for another car to drive in the salt, my cool rides and bikes are stored in a heated shop, unlike your junk...I will find a nice, well taken care of "for sale by owner car" ....but until then, watch for me to come and set up that great deal for you and walk away..ha..ha..but I'll call first..so you can be prepared...ha.ha...looser..
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#439 Mar 3, 2014
CL Spam wrote:
I've enjoyed this topic for some time now. In a previous post I published the NYS Attorney General's pamphlet on Dealers and Advertising. Long story short, "Thou shalt not mislead". Fairness and honesty are paramount (probably to compensate for the sins of the past).
Free, cheap, whatever, Craigslist IS an advertising medium just as is a sign on your window. CL only has 30 employees world wide so they are somewhat limited as to how they can deal with scammers and spammers. That's why they setup and encourage community policing but due to the volume of scams and spams even Flaggers are limited in what they can do.
Craigslist has always been a community service first and money second. Scams and Spams hurt Craigslist's reputation which, overtime, can and will jeopardize their revenue stream thus their viability.
Dealers who post as owners are wrong on so many counts well, I haven't enough fingers :-)
Also wrong are Dealers who violate other Craigslist rules such as only 1 Ad per car and only 1 car per Ad, advertising services (e.g., financing or insurance) rather than a car and so on.
Here's what we can do as consumers:
* Continue flagging violators
* Continue to shame and shun violators
* Avoid Dealers who abuse Craigslist
Remember a Dealer who violates rules and guidelines is VERY likely to violate you! I rarely go to Craigslist to look for cars anymore. Rather I go to Craigslist to find Dealers I will NOT do business with!
OR, you could just avoid using Craigslist.
maybe you can go police all the other car websites??
Bob is a jerk

Alden, NY

#440 Mar 3, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
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OR, you could just avoid using Craigslist.
maybe you can go police all the other car websites??
Why should people that are using Craigslist in the proper way avoid from doing so just to have someone who is clearly breaking the rules of the site continue to do so.

It just does not make any sense

But then again trying to argue with a shady car-dealer what else is to be expected.
usedcardealer

Penfield, NY

#441 Mar 3, 2014
If cl allows someone to brake the rules then they are not really braking the rules as they is different rules for different people.

And your not using cl in the proper way.
You are not buying nothing.
And proper is not flagging anything and everything that you feel is suspicious, doing so you are flagging people that are using cl properly.
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#442 Mar 3, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
come see me little man. punks like you need to be taught a few lessons.
Lessons to be learned.....well put ...except the lesson will be yours...It's pretty obvious your the type that parks in the handicapped parking spots, drives in the middle of the road, ignores stop signs...cheats on taxes...throws your cigarette buts out the window...and doesn't believe in tips....somethings ya just can't hide.....a bully..can do anything you want....time to grow up..dude...ha.ha...
you got it

Rochester, NY

#443 Mar 3, 2014
usedcardealer wrote:
You don't own CL.
If you did, you could tell me what to do on it, but you don't.
Now go away.
You have no money to buy a car anyways.
Cl is a privately own company and I can do what ever I want there, if you don't like it then don't go on it.
Seems like you are the only one that is threating people on these threads, what a shock for a small time dealer hustler. You gave away your "cover" by the words/sentences you used slick. You aren't educated enough to know that you don't use the same phase on this thread as you used on C/L. "You don't own C/L", real smart when you used the same wording while you are trying to sell that 2008 Buick Enclave from your little backyard in Webster. You used "Cory" in one of you B/S replies, would that be the same "Cory" from Marina Dodge who is also a scumbag that posts in FOR OWNERS ONLY- NO DEALERS section? It is the bottom feeders like you that rip people off by selling them junk for an bloated price that give the good dealers a bad name loser. I'll bet that you also do the "buy here - pay here" ripoff where people pay 18-23% on top of the monies owed every month, right? Now would you really like to keep playing tough guy hiding behind your keyboard ?
DMV Friend

Alden, NY

#444 Mar 3, 2014
So Corey works at Marina ????

Usually most of the so called bigger dealers do tend to advertise where they should. Well I just have to look into this and if it is the case a call to store management to let them know how there dealership is being portrayed on CL might but a stop to it.
chickenpoop

Penfield, NY

#445 Mar 3, 2014
DMV Friend wrote:
So Corey works at Marina ????
Usually most of the so called bigger dealers do tend to advertise where they should. Well I just have to look into this and if it is the case a call to store management to let them know how there dealership is being portrayed on CL might but a stop to it.
yah, best to call manager if your afraid of any confrontation.

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