Car dealers scam posting as owners on...
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#302 Feb 21, 2014
Suspicious !!! Add one of the many other clues to that and FLAG IT !!! They don't enjoy having to repost...cl tou states 1 add in 1 city...multiple cars/ phone number deserve a FLAG also...
Kimberly is a pig

Alden, NY

#303 Feb 21, 2014
I will flag the following

1. Any cars with no stickers in the windows
2. Any pictures taken at the auction or a car dealership
3. White paper mats on the floor
4 . Phrases like 1 owner just inspected
5 Any phone numbers that are a combination of numbers and letters
6 Like Sick said anything that looks suspicious
DisconnectWithEv an

Penfield, NY

#304 Feb 21, 2014
Doesn't CL have a Rant and Rave section where you can talk about this stuff, instead of here on topix??
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#305 Feb 22, 2014
They sure do and if something gets posted it doesn't last long...the dealers work together and flag the warnings as fast as they show up...There were posts pointing readers here and those got flagged also...
Currently the only thing that can be done is multiple people flag the dealers adds, more than one add per phone number or since they are getting tricky,anything suspicious....The lowlife dealers will get sick of reposting...and when they are forced to repost they will all be together and then its easy to pick them out...
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#306 Feb 22, 2014
A good hard look at the " by owwner" adds will show more than 50% are in the wrong place or from other cities. Car parts, wheels and tires need to be in the car parts section. Cl tou state "1 add for an item in 1 city." Seems pretty clear to me...flagg them all if they are posted wrong...if the complain to cl, they will.be informed of which rule they are breaking...
Dorky Dave

Alden, NY

#307 Feb 22, 2014
DisconnectWithEvan wrote:
Doesn't CL have a Rant and Rave section where you can talk about this stuff, instead of here on topix??
The problem with that is these lowlife dealers quickly flag any ads anywhere pointing out what they are doing wrong. And thankfully here they simply cant do that . Hopefully many CL readers know that this forum is here and can be informed what is going on.
DMV Friend

Alden, NY

#308 Feb 22, 2014
Lets see how many dealers are committing fraud again today by posting as owners .

http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/432147142...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434533620...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433177816...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434524445...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433873713...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434523244...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434522923...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434206223...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434510990...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434507303...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434509062...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434504994...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434173967...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434498636...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434477576...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434483534...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434482959...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433167805...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434477614...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/432089733...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433014440...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/431294964...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434474275...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433185708...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/433790985...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434473125...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/432584276...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/434472699...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/430543985...
http://rochester.craigslist.org/cto/430062077...

Looks like the bastards have been bust today trying to con people !!
Sickofbs

West Valley, NY

#309 Feb 22, 2014
Wow....at $5 an add X 30 adds cl is loosing $150/ day just in Rochester. I'm sure there is as much crap going on in all the other large cities in NY, if I had to estimate, I'd say including NYC, cl is missing out on a solid $1,000 / day....just in NY....This could be up to $25-30 k , just for the US..per day...that's really too bad...and you know what really sucks ----IT GETS WORSE EVERY DAY !!! Flag every one you see.....
DMV Friend

Alden, NY

#310 Feb 23, 2014
I was out last night talking to friends about this forum and one of the people I spoke to works for the someone in the NY state attorney generals office and they are going to see what can be done here.

Sometimes just a phone call over to the folks at CL itself can go along way.
Basketball Diplomacy

Penfield, NY

#311 Feb 23, 2014
DMV Friend wrote:
I was out last night talking to friends about this forum and one of the people I spoke to works for the someone in the NY state attorney generals office and they are going to see what can be done here.
Sometimes just a phone call over to the folks at CL itself can go along way.
You and your so called friends were all drunk.
Nothing is going to change, so get use to it.
Your wasting your time and you've lost again.
DMV Friend

Alden, NY

#312 Feb 23, 2014
Basketball Diplomacy wrote:
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Nothing is going to change, so get use to it.
Your wasting your time and you've lost again.
Folks over at the AG office tend to look down on FALSE advertisement and lets not forget that small used car dealers do not have the best reputation to begin with
Basketball Diplomacy

Penfield, NY

#313 Feb 23, 2014
DMV Friend wrote:
<quoted text>
Folks over at the AG office tend to look down on FALSE advertisement and lets not forget that small used car dealers do not have the best reputation to begin with
Yes if only you were talking about "advertisement" instead of free cl posts.

Nothing will happen. It's CL responsibility to go after people defrauding their company, as cl is the only victims here.
Sickofbs

West Valley, NY

#314 Feb 23, 2014
Basketball Diplomacy wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes if only you were talking about "advertisement" instead of free cl posts.
Nothing will happen. It's CL responsibility to go after people defrauding their company, as cl is the only victims here.
I beg to differ with you ...every prospective purchaser that shows up thinking they are buying a used car from the owner and driver is a victim...that is the whole problem...as the listing says "Private party sale"......seems pretty clear to me....cl does call them adds...read previous posts..
Which low end dealer are you...here's your chance for some free advertising..see how much business it will drum up for you...The only people siding with the low end dealers are low end dealers...NO ONE wants to see that auction junk in the by owner section except the ones that get the added exposure..does that make sense to you?
Basketball Diplomacy

Penfield, NY

#315 Feb 23, 2014
Sickofbs wrote:
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I beg to differ with you ...every prospective purchaser that shows up thinking they are buying a used car from the owner and driver is a victim...that is the whole problem...as the listing says "Private party sale"......seems pretty clear to me....cl does call them adds...read previous posts..
Which low end dealer are you...here's your chance for some free advertising..see how much business it will drum up for you...The only people siding with the low end dealers are low end dealers...NO ONE wants to see that auction junk in the by owner section except the ones that get the added exposure..does that make sense to you?
Well beggars can't be choosers, so learn to deal with it.
When a person goes to see the car or goes to buy it, they will know it's a dealer before they buy it. As you know the dealer will have to sell it as a dealer regardless on how it was posted on cl. If cl doesn't care about these companies taking advantage of their website, then it should be any of your business. If it bothers you so much that things are posted in the wrong section, then stop using the website. The website, CL, is not a public owner website, its private, and the private owners are free to run it any way they choose.
ZannyTheNanny

Penfield, NY

#316 Feb 23, 2014
Basketball Diplomacy wrote:
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Well beggars can't be choosers, so learn to deal with it.
When a person goes to see the car or goes to buy it, they will know it's a dealer before they buy it. As you know the dealer will have to sell it as a dealer regardless on how it was posted on cl. If cl doesn't care about these companies taking advantage of their website, then it should be any of your business. If it bothers you so much that things are posted in the wrong section, then stop using the website. The website, CL, is not a public owner website, its private, and the private owners are free to run it any way they choose.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
But let me warn you, you have no chance in talking this guy into understand, as he has no legs and no brains.
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#317 Feb 23, 2014
Basketball Diplomacy wrote:
<quoted text>
Well beggars can't be choosers, so learn to deal with it.
When a person goes to see the car or goes to buy it, they will know it's a dealer before they buy it. As you know the dealer will have to sell it as a dealer regardless on how it was posted on cl. If cl doesn't care about these companies taking advantage of their website, then it should be any of your business. If it bothers you so much that things are posted in the wrong section, then stop using the website. The website, CL, is not a public owner website, its private, and the private owners are free to run it any way they choose.
You are looking at this from the side of the lowlife dealer...I am looking at it from a prospective buyer because that's exactly what I am...that makes it my business..that's why I'm expressing my distaste for the cheaters, polluters, low end dealers that are making a joke of "by owner"..
You know people like you.......
Sickofbs

Ashburn, VA

#318 Feb 23, 2014
ZannyTheNanny wrote:
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I couldn't have said it better myself.
But let me warn you, you have no chance in talking this guy into understand, as he has no legs and no brains.
That's because you can't think for your self...which low end dealers are you ? Or are you going to ignore that question just like the rest ?
Basketball Diplomacy

Penfield, NY

#319 Feb 23, 2014
Sickofbs wrote:
<quoted text>
You are looking at this from the side of the lowlife dealer...I am looking at it from a prospective buyer because that's exactly what I am...that makes it my business..that's why I'm expressing my distaste for the cheaters, polluters, low end dealers that are making a joke of "by owner"..
You know people like you.......
No one is cheating you.
If anything they are cheating CL, so its CL's business and NOT yours.
If you don't like the site or how CL runs its site, then don't use it, buy your car else were.
Dorky Dave

Alden, NY

#320 Feb 23, 2014
Basketball Diplomacy wrote:
<quoted text>
No one is cheating you.
If anything they are cheating CL, so its CL's business and NOT yours.
If you don't like the site or how CL runs its site, then don't use it, buy your car else were.
Nice attitude it is fine for these dealers to commit FRAUD by coming off as owners and you think it is ok ..... and what is the name of your dealership if that is what you call it.
Basketball Diplomacy

Penfield, NY

#321 Feb 23, 2014
Dorky Dave wrote:
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Nice attitude it is fine for these dealers to commit FRAUD by coming off as owners and you think it is ok ..... and what is the name of your dealership if that is what you call it.
Its not fraud, and if it was CL would be an accomplice as they are allowing them to do it, yet I don't see you going after CL.

Your really stupid to be wasting soo much of your time on such a stupid issue that no one else has a problem with. Nothing is going to happen, its not against the law, CL owns the site and doesn't care so why should you??? Are you going to save the world starting with the used car department??

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