Confirmed list of closing Catholic Sc...

Confirmed list of closing Catholic Schools

There are 198 comments on the WHEC-TV Rochester, NY story from Jan 18, 2008, titled Confirmed list of closing Catholic Schools. In it, WHEC-TV Rochester, NY reports that:

News 10NBC has confirmed the list of the 13 Catholic schools closing through a letter the Diocese sent home to parents who have children in Catholic schools.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at WHEC-TV Rochester, NY.

former DOR teacher

Rochester, NY

#185 Jan 23, 2008
Former St Andrew Mom wrote:
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I could not agree more with you. I have been a parent at St Andrew School in Florida for the past 4 years. since the arriveal of Sr. Elizabeth Meeghan I can honestly say I have seen our school headed down the same unfortunate path of those schools she was involved with in Rochester.
I agree, too, Sr. Beth is a "black widow" who changes diocese's often, leaving behind a trail of lifeless parish schools. She made numerous promises to the teachers, students, and parents. She delivered on 0% of them. Good luck in Florida with her.
Silence DoGood

United States

#186 Jan 24, 2008
Interesting on the Superintendent. Where'd you get that item from.

But my my do I agree.

1. Sr. Meeghan, hired as a "cleaner upper" for the Bishop
2. Raise the tuition=fewer students
3. Infuriate the parents by telling them nothing and blind siding them.

As I've said in other posts, I really think by their actions that DOR
-either doesn't want to run the schools,

-has no business sense at all,

-or is radically re-thinking what market they want to serve.

The surely have abandoned the city that is for SURE.

Whether some of the posts about politics are right or not (and I think some might be), it's still a basic business axiom that looking at the DOR actions demonstrate that they don't want to spend the money anymore.

It might be about the business model, but more appropriately it is about the priorities that DOR has chosen.
Armin Tamzarian wrote:
The schools are being closed due to low enrollments and a fiscal crisis involving an operating deficit of over $1.3 million.

All of us in Rochester would like to thank Sr. Elizabeth Meegan, Superintendent of Schools for the Diocese of Rochester, NY from 2001 through 2006, for her role in the demise of our school system.
During her tenure our enrollment decreased on an annual basis from 7868 students in 2001 to 5868 students in 2006.

At the same time our tuition increased by over 40%. Her plan called for increasing the tuition rates to a full cost per pupil amount. The increased revenue would create a pool of monies for financial aid to the poor. What happened?

Many families couldn’t afford the increase, few families qualified for adequate financial aid and the enrollment of our schools went on a downfall.

To compound the problem, she closed/merged a few schools at the same time that she announced her new “tuition plan”. She did nothing to promote the schools, would not meet with the parents of the schools she closed and give little to no support to the administrators and staffs of the schools which remained opened.
As a final insult to the people of the Diocese of Rochester, she personally recruited her successor, Sr. Elaine Poitras. Sr. Poitras was fired by the Bishop of Rochester earlier this month for gross incompetence.

So again, thank you Sr. Beth for all that you contributed to the collapse of a wonderful school system and best of luck to all of you at Saint Andrew School. You are going to need it!
Listen to the actions of DOR not the words. We told them before with Sr. Beth and this is the result.

Buy the schools, hire the teachers yourselves, but don't expect a DOR bailout. It is unlikely.
Charlie The Greek

Kensington, MD

#187 Jan 24, 2008
The Catholic Church has been paying so much hush money for those that were molested by its clergy that it is now unable to keep its schools open.

That should help prevent some children from being molested.
WIT

United States

#188 Jan 24, 2008
St Rita Mom wrote:
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Although there seem to be a lot of expenditures that could be viewed as extravagant, I wonder if it would have really saved all of these schools in the long run, or would it have just kept them going a few more years, only to be faced with this same problem down the road?
That's easy for you to say...your school is still open!
Out of work teacher

AOL

#189 Jan 24, 2008
After 34 years I am out of a job. I have taught in the Catholic schools in Rochester because I wanted God in my classroom everyday. At times I worked 3 jobs to make ends meet .. but I managed just like the parents who worked extra jobs to pay the tuition.
When the announcement came not one mention about the hurt for the staff and teachers in these schools. It is like we didn't exist. There are not enough jobs for all of us that have been displaced. We are on our own.
This week has been awful. It is like a horrible death in a very large family. The parents, children and teachers all have cried. The sad part is that there will not be room for all the displaced children from our school. I wonder if Jesus would have turned away 50% of the children who came to him. The community is also going to suffer as all of these schools have donated to food cupboards, visited nursing homes, collected money for hundreds of charities, put on productions, collected books, toys, and items for the poor. All that is now gone.
I am just very sad!!!!!!!
joe c

Rochester, NY

#190 Jan 25, 2008
great job on voicing your concerns ,as a young adult the task at hand seems insurmountable,but with the catholic youth standing with you as one ,no obstacle can stop you..
Think

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#191 Jan 25, 2008
I am in shock. How can the DOR (Dioceses Of Rochester) retain expensive lawyers to cover the sexual harassment case against a priest and the DOR can not allocate more money to the catholic schools? Where are our priorities? How can the DOR pay to legally defend a priest like Peter Enya-Bodua (who by the way admitted his actions on tape) in a sexual harassment case? We are the paying congregation so why can't we participate (ie vote) in these decisions?

Since: Jan 08

Rochester, NY

#192 Jan 25, 2008
You clearly don't have children who have grown to love and feel safe and secure in an environment. Kids are resilient and life is full of disappointments, but should our Church be the primary source letting us down?? You should think twice about the impact this has on the Catholic faith--shame on you.
not surprised wrote:
Life is full of disappointments. Stop crying about it and move on. Children are VERY resilient. They could teach adults a thing or two. While it is sad that these schools are closing, get over it already and move on! If you've been living under a rock, welcome to the real world of failure and disappointment.

Since: Jan 08

Rochester, NY

#193 Jan 25, 2008
I'm very sad for the teachers--the teachers at my school (yes, one that is closing) are the most wonderful people I have ever met. You have been shafted by the Bishop and the Catholic Church. I wish all the teachers the best and hope you find peace.
Out of work teacher wrote:
After 34 years I am out of a job. I have taught in the Catholic schools in Rochester because I wanted God in my classroom everyday. At times I worked 3 jobs to make ends meet .. but I managed just like the parents who worked extra jobs to pay the tuition.
When the announcement came not one mention about the hurt for the staff and teachers in these schools. It is like we didn't exist. There are not enough jobs for all of us that have been displaced. We are on our own.
This week has been awful. It is like a horrible death in a very large family. The parents, children and teachers all have cried. The sad part is that there will not be room for all the displaced children from our school. I wonder if Jesus would have turned away 50% of the children who came to him. The community is also going to suffer as all of these schools have donated to food cupboards, visited nursing homes, collected money for hundreds of charities, put on productions, collected books, toys, and items for the poor. All that is now gone.
I am just very sad!!!!!!!
Teacher

Rochester, NY

#194 Jan 26, 2008
As a teacher in Catholic Schools we feel for all of you and your families. It is so nice to hear how you support the school. Your children our in our daily prayers. My dream has always been to be a Catholic school teacher. My dream seems to be disappearing.. We need to rememeber to enjoy what we have and live in the moments. I love my students and I am blessed I get to spend the rest of the year with them!
Pat

Granby, CT

#195 Jan 26, 2008
This is great news!
Confused

Honeoye Falls, NY

#196 Jan 29, 2008
Catholic School Alum wrote:
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When the DOR closed St. John's in Greece and "merged" it with St. Charles they told the folks to go to the newly created St. Catherine McCauley School because it had a good location, a cafeteria, and a gym. But the families didn't go there. Instead, they went to Mother of Sorrows which has no gym or cafeteria. The paying "customers" voted with their wallets. They chose Mother of Sorrows. And the task force must have noticed as Mother of Sorrows stayed open. It makes sense to keep a school open that has a stable enrollement.
It does not lessen the pain of those that have had their schools closed and their hearts broken. Why did those schools all have to close? My heart goes out to all the teachers, students and their families that will not be able to go to school as their parents did. It is truly a very, very sad day in Rochester.
God has blessed the Mother of Sorrows community and several others.
Those that received sad news today are in my thoughts and prayers.


Congratulations, you may have helped a school close. You should be proud of your wonderful Christian attitude. I hope you don't lose your spot to a displaced family.
NitaM

United States

#197 Jan 29, 2008
Vouchers now wrote:
While we are all angry is the time to get working. This is simple economics, too many families can not pay both high school taxes and tuition. School Choice needs to be an organized (from the DOR) demand made by all Catholics to our government. I pray there are enough voting Catholics to overcome the power of the teacher's unions. This needs to be organized from the diocese, and it needs to start now, to be ready for November's elections. NO MORE SCHOOLS NEED TO CLOSE!
Vouchers Now,
I totally agree with you, though I am not from the area, it could happen in mine. Why not hold a public Rosary rally through Mary to Jesus and help with organizing a fund raiser and pass the coffers around as Whoopi did in "Sister Act II?" You'd be surprised to see your school will be rolling in dough for His kids. Nothing is impossible with God who is Jesus.
NitaM
John

San Francisco, CA

#198 Jan 29, 2008
My wife was a product of the Catholic School system as was our son. I feel that it is a shame that so many of the schools are closing now due to financial strain. It is the best way to send our children to recieve a good and moral education. We all need to pray for the Catholic Schools so that our children can expect a good education.
suester

Naperville, IL

#199 Feb 15, 2008
The thing that will cause the local Catholic church to circle the drain is to cut off the formation of future Catholic leaders. The immersion experience of Catholic education cannot be overstated. The Bishop is woefully short-sighted due to his inability to allow the laity to carry out their God-given gifts of leadership. He has no faith in the Church.
sosad

United States

#200 Feb 15, 2008
To "Out of Work Teacher"

I have posted before as a former DOR teacher...I totally agree with you...the students are most important, but let us not forget the staffs of these schools..some of whom are retirement age, but have a pitiful retirement...is there a severance package for those displaced? I have heard that the diocese said no...but some parishes are considering it...these teachers who have worked for years are earning so much less than they could in the public sector...they loved their schools and stayed because of the family atmosphere and the love of their religion. DOR isn't thinking about them either.

The Church thinks they are suffering now, but after these schools closeI believe that the population of Roman Catholics in this diocese will reduce even more...

This whole process has been unfair and typical of the Dictatorial Church...Good luck displaced teachers, come over to the public school, we may not be able to pray openly, but we have safeguards against this kind of abuse...I know I make a difference and continue to treat and love my kids as Jesus would want me too!!!
Former DOR teacher

Spencerport, NY

#201 Feb 27, 2008
The church teaches social justice for everyone but their teachers. They should receive severance and health benefits should continue until employment is obtained. Not to do so
violates every thing the Gospel teaches us. Charity should begin at home and that means these teachers.
concerned

Fairport, NY

#202 Feb 27, 2008
You expect to get money from the catholic church? Good Luck! Richest and greediest church in the world. Yet, I'm sure thousands of faithful still drop money in the basket on Sunday, following like a flock of sheep!
VIP

Rochester, NY

#203 Feb 27, 2008
Go get some real jobs now.
RCC for Life

AOL

#204 Feb 28, 2008
Mystified wrote:
<quoted text>You assume that we Catholic school parents simply pay tuition and DON"T attend church weekly or give generously to our parish collections? How presumptive of you and quite frankly dead wrong!!Are you the same person who used the public school system for years for your own children, now to complain that since you no longer have children in school that you shouldn't have such high taxes???
No, I am not "assuming" anything. I have seen it first hand. I was a parent of kids who attended Catholic Schools. And I saw it repeatedly there too. People shelling out money for this and that and then putting only a $1.00 in the collection basket. Not using the envelopes provided by the parish. Complaining about the RCC being a "corporation" as they drove off in thier Beamers on thier way to a ski weekend.
Of course there will always be the reminant faithfull who support thier parish, the way we were taught to both at home and in scripture. But compared to 25 years ago, people today just don't seem to get how important it is to support the RCC financially. The parishes, the schools, the missions, the seminaries, everything Catholic.

They have been led astray by this world and thier pride. They have hardened thier hearts and closed thier ears to the Word of God.

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