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Sam Walton

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A Walmart food drive is asking employees to donate canned goods to help fellow employees who can't afford a decent Thanksgiving dinner -- drawing attention to the company's staggeringly low wages.

It's being promoted by the union that's attempting to unionize Walmart workers.

They need our Rochester Teamsters.

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Sam Walton wrote:
A Walmart food drive is asking employees to donate canned goods to help fellow employees who can't afford a decent Thanksgiving dinner -- drawing attention to the company's staggeringly low wages.
It's being promoted by the union that's attempting to unionize Walmart workers.
They need our Rochester Teamsters.
Way to go Wal-mart. Effing brilliant. Ask your underpaid workers to help out your other underpaid workers. I'm sure in their eyes they are helping these people too. So glad I have not stepped foot into a Wal-mart in over 10 years.
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<quoted text>Way to go Wal-mart. Effing brilliant. Ask your underpaid workers to help out your other underpaid workers. I'm sure in their eyes they are helping these people too. So glad I have not stepped foot into a Wal-mart in over 10 years.
Are you sure this a real story or just another B/S lie that the union pukes are spreading on the internet to force Walmart into becoming a union shop? Sounds like something the other poster "Sam Walton" would push while all of the time isn't aware that his beloved unions are 100% behind Obama's plan to let over 20+ million illegals remain in the U.S. causing more Americans to lose their jobs. Looks like the unions only care about adding more members and of course more money to their coffers at the expense of real Americans. What a shock!!
Sam Walton

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the next door neigbor wrote:
<quoted text>Are you sure this a real story or just another B/S lie that the union pukes are spreading on the internet to force Walmart into becoming a union shop? Sounds like something the other poster "Sam Walton" would push while all of the time isn't aware that his beloved unions are 100% behind Obama's plan to let over 20+ million illegals remain in the U.S. causing more Americans to lose their jobs. Looks like the unions only care about adding more members and of course more money to their coffers at the expense of real Americans. What a shock!!
Read the original post more carefully - this scam is being promoted by the union attempting to organize Walmart employees. The idea (if I need to explain this) so to embarrass and provoke workers, to insure more penetration for the union. They are trying to start a buzz.

Let me go on record as saying I am anti-union. They are parasites living off the backs of their workers, usually riddled with questionable accounting.
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Nov 19, 2013
 
Sam Walton wrote:
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Read the original post more carefully - this scam is being promoted by the union attempting to organize Walmart employees. The idea (if I need to explain this) so to embarrass and provoke workers, to insure more penetration for the union. They are trying to start a buzz.
Let me go on record as saying I am anti-union. They are parasites living off the backs of their workers, usually riddled with questionable accounting.
Sorry Sam, I missed the second from last sentence, but read the last one. That is what I get when I reply to two different people in the same post. BTW:I agree with you 100% about unions.

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the next door neigbor wrote:
<quoted text>Are you sure this a real story or just another B/S lie that the union pukes are spreading on the internet to force Walmart into becoming a union shop? Sounds like something the other poster "Sam Walton" would push while all of the time isn't aware that his beloved unions are 100% behind Obama's plan to let over 20+ million illegals remain in the U.S. causing more Americans to lose their jobs. Looks like the unions only care about adding more members and of course more money to their coffers at the expense of real Americans. What a shock!!
I am not fan of unions in this day and age either. They were necessary a one point in time but have become what they originally set out against. I have friends in trade unions who feel the same way as we do about them but feel they need them for jobs and hate it. At the same time I have no respect and only disgust for Wal-mart. They promote jobs going over seas, screw their employees, suck money out of communities, destroy small independent local businesses, and tear apart the local landscape everywhere they go. They are one of the very few places I would not mind seeing unionize. Though I feel it should be the employees who unionize themselves and not one of these organized unions such as the Teamsters for example who's only cause is to line their own pockets and create a business of rabble rousing. Wal-Mart pushes shoddy Chinese made goods and uses piss poor customer service as a business model. The stores have no merit and succeed not by offering a superior service but by dismantling all competition. It is pure evil. They are just another side of the same problem that the unions are. Both are equally responsible for the lack of good manufacturing jobs in this country.
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Nov 19, 2013
 
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<quoted text>I am not fan of unions in this day and age either. They were necessary a one point in time but have become what they originally set out against. I have friends in trade unions who feel the same way as we do about them but feel they need them for jobs and hate it. At the same time I have no respect and only disgust for Wal-mart. They promote jobs going over seas, screw their employees, suck money out of communities, destroy small independent local businesses, and tear apart the local landscape everywhere they go. They are one of the very few places I would not mind seeing unionize. Though I feel it should be the employees who unionize themselves and not one of these organized unions such as the Teamsters for example who's only cause is to line their own pockets and create a business of rabble rousing. Wal-Mart pushes shoddy Chinese made goods and uses piss poor customer service as a business model. The stores have no merit and succeed not by offering a superior service but by dismantling all competition. It is pure evil. They are just another side of the same problem that the unions are. Both are equally responsible for the lack of good manufacturing jobs in this country.
In no way am I sticking up for Walmart, that said, they at least provide jobs unlike unions that drive jobs overseas. I will always pay more for anything made in the U.S., that is if I can find anything still made here. You being a hunter and outdoorsmen you must be as pissed off as I am by companies like Gander Mountain, Lands End, Deluth Trading(SP?)Dicks just to name a few sporting goods stores where most of their clothing and camping gear are made in China. Look at the ammo they sell, much of it is made in Russia, Spain, South America just to name a few. So I can't blame just Walmart for buying off shore, all big companies do the same. Take stores like Best Buys, Sears, Lowes, Target, ect., most of their "goods" are also from off shore. Must of the meat, cheese, whine, ect. we buy is from overseas. I blame 90% of this on unions, government regulations and people that don't care as long as they an save a dollar.

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the next door neigbor wrote:
<quoted text>In no way am I sticking up for Walmart, that said, they at least provide jobs unlike unions that drive jobs overseas. I will always pay more for anything made in the U.S., that is if I can find anything still made here. You being a hunter and outdoorsmen you must be as pissed off as I am by companies like Gander Mountain, Lands End, Deluth Trading(SP?)Dicks just to name a few sporting goods stores where most of their clothing and camping gear are made in China. Look at the ammo they sell, much of it is made in Russia, Spain, South America just to name a few. So I can't blame just Walmart for buying off shore, all big companies do the same. Take stores like Best Buys, Sears, Lowes, Target, ect., most of their "goods" are also from off shore. Must of the meat, cheese, whine, ect. we buy is from overseas. I blame 90% of this on unions, government regulations and people that don't care as long as they an save a dollar.
Not going to argue with you there either. The only thing I can point out is that Wal-mart specifically causes manufacturing jobs to go over seas. A prime example would be Buck knives. Wal-Mart approches Buck and says you need to supply your knives at this price so we can sell at this price. If you don't your product we will no longer carry. Now Buck cannot fulfill this requirement while making said knives in America. That is why some Buck knives are know made in China. Wal-Mart forced them to. Now sure Buck could have said go ahead drop us, but Wal-Mart being what it is Buck would no longer have any sales presence in many parts of the country. This in turn would cause Buck to lose a large market share to an off-shore company when Wal-Mart replaces them. This would hurt the company and the American manufacturing they where able to maintain by resourcing to China just to appease Wal-Mart. It is these tactics that disgust me about Wal-Mart. Sure Wal-Mart does provide jobs for people, but I feel they in no way create more jobs than they destroy and the few they do replace are of a much lower quality than the ones they replace. In all truth we both have valid points and it is a sticky situation.
About the Russian made ammo thing. I would rather buy American made ammo for sure. Thing is American ammo manufacturers don't make steel cased ammo. Brass ammo is better than steel case %100. Except that my AK's and SKS's are made to chamber seal with crappy steel case ammo. I have had quite a few extraction problems with brass 7.62x39 ammo because of the different expansion qualities. So while it is superior, it is not the right fit. That is another topic to be discussed elsewhere though.

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the next door neigbor wrote:
<quoted text>In no way am I sticking up for Walmart, that said, they at least provide jobs unlike unions that drive jobs overseas. I will always pay more for anything made in the U.S., that is if I can find anything still made here. You being a hunter and outdoorsmen you must be as pissed off as I am by companies like Gander Mountain, Lands End, Deluth Trading(SP?)Dicks just to name a few sporting goods stores where most of their clothing and camping gear are made in China. Look at the ammo they sell, much of it is made in Russia, Spain, South America just to name a few. So I can't blame just Walmart for buying off shore, all big companies do the same. Take stores like Best Buys, Sears, Lowes, Target, ect., most of their "goods" are also from off shore. Must of the meat, cheese, whine, ect. we buy is from overseas. I blame 90% of this on unions, government regulations and people that don't care as long as they an save a dollar.
Also I forgot mention. Wal-Mart sends just as many jobs overseas as any other cause. That is what I mean by saying they are just a different side of the same evil.
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Nov 19, 2013
 
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About the Russian made ammo thing. I would rather buy American made ammo for sure. Thing is American ammo manufacturers don't make steel cased ammo. Brass ammo is better than steel case %100. Except that my AK's and SKS's are made to chamber seal with crappy steel case ammo. I have had quite a few extraction problems with brass 7.62x39 ammo because of the different expansion qualities. So while it is superior, it is not the right fit. That is another topic to be discussed elsewhere though.
I had the same problem with jamming with my AK & SKS unless I use steel cased ammo. Must be the nature of the beast. My AR's will eat any and everything I feed it with no problems, must be a better design. Some of my pistol ammo is brass cased made in Russia and are appox 1/2 the cost of U.S. made, I use it for plinking, but never for carry as I want to make sure it works the way it should when I really need it.

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<quoted text>I had the same problem with jamming with my AK & SKS unless I use steel cased ammo. Must be the nature of the beast. My AR's will eat any and everything I feed it with no problems, must be a better design. Some of my pistol ammo is brass cased made in Russia and are appox 1/2 the cost of U.S. made, I use it for plinking, but never for carry as I want to make sure it works the way it should when I really need it.
See now, I have had problems with Wolf and Tulammo with my Rock River and DPMS. Mostly accuracy and chamber flash. The chambers are spec.ed for the brass to expand and chamber seal with brass and steel cased does not expand enough. I've also noticed the harder primers are harder on the firing pins. Albeit after many many rounds and not very severe. The whole poly coat and laquer in the chamber is BS. The Russian guns have a tighter fit in the chambers to properly seal the low expansion steel. The brass expands a lot more than steel and that is the issue with it not extracting properly. It is not that the AR is better designed why it feeds both ammo types. It is because the AR has a looser chamber and Russian guns have a tighter chamber. If you want a reloadable brass for Russian guns ( I have not gotten in a long time and might have initials right) get PDV ammo. It is Czech ammo made to cycle in guns made to fire steel. It is top notch ammo and makes 7.62x39 with a round nose soft point. Almost like the bullet in a typical 30-30 round. It can be pricey though especially now.

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I would also point out that American ammo manufacturers use the SAAMI standards for ammo and Russian ones usually go by the C.I.P. standards which often have different tolerances for case designs.
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Nov 19, 2013
 
Sam Walton wrote:
A Walmart food drive is asking employees to donate canned goods to help fellow employees who can't afford a decent Thanksgiving dinner -- drawing attention to the company's staggeringly low wages.
It's being promoted by the union that's attempting to unionize Walmart workers.
They need our Rochester Teamsters.
Wegmans pays the same and keeps people under 32 hours. Only Managers and Union teamsters do well with benefits. If you have been out in the job market you will find that most companies are paying shit. Even college graduates with engineering degrees start at 14-16 dollars an hour. Its called outsourcing. All companies are to blame. Call TWC and you get India. Call Frontier and get Belize.

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Wegmans pays the same and keeps people under 32 hours. Only Managers and Union teamsters do well with benefits. If you have been out in the job market you will find that most companies are paying shit. Even college graduates with engineering degrees start at 14-16 dollars an hour. Its called outsourcing. All companies are to blame. Call TWC and you get India. Call Frontier and get Belize.
As a former Wegman's employee I will vouch that they are not a very good company to work for. I never understood the Forbes ratings they used to get. They only promote those who kiss ass regardless of work performance. That was the main reason I left. It was all about cliques there. I even saw people get written up and threaten to be fired for taking products that were being thrown in the dumpster. The managers would claim that is a form of theft.
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Wegman's is about making the Wegman family richer, nothing more. They can do whatever they want, because the $2 billion enterprise is privately held.
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<quoted text>I even saw people get written up and threaten to be fired for taking products that were being thrown in the dumpster. The managers would claim that is a form of theft.
Here's the problem: if they allowed removal of products from the dumpster, then employees pilfering stuff could claim it was designated to be destroyed, and they rescued it for consumption. If they have a blanket corporate policy that free is not allowed, it allows them to better control shrinkage. I think they're making the right call (for them).
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Edwin wrote:
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Here's the problem: if they allowed removal of products from the dumpster, then employees pilfering stuff could claim it was designated to be destroyed, and they rescued it for consumption. If they have a blanket corporate policy that free is not allowed, it allows them to better control shrinkage. I think they're making the right call (for them).
City churches/organizations back up vans and trucks several times a week to load up on all the expired pastries, bread and produce put on the back loading dock at all of the Wegman stores. Its all given away to city folk. FoodLink gets some as well. Not sure what you folks are talking about. Food in dumpsters? WTF are you talking about. I can tell you lots is given away.

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Here's the problem: if they allowed removal of products from the dumpster, then employees pilfering stuff could claim it was designated to be destroyed, and they rescued it for consumption. If they have a blanket corporate policy that free is not allowed, it allows them to better control shrinkage. I think they're making the right call (for them).
I see where your coming from. There is more to it than I think anyone cares to read. The reason they gave was if they allowed employees to have discontinued overstock employees will not buy the products they still sell which just rubbed me the wrong way. More so that they threatened the person with job termination and legal action when she did not know she was doing something wrong. There were other things that bothered me there more than that as well. If I was unable to support myself I would have stayed but I did not need the extra job so I left. I still think they provide great service to there customers though and all in all think it is a good company. I still shop thereand that wont change. Maybe it is just that I'm able to work in something I like to do that I disliked it so much. Might just be I'm not the type of personality to work in that type of job. If it was the only job I could get I would be happy that I had it.

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City churches/organizations back up vans and trucks several times a week to load up on all the expired pastries, bread and produce put on the back loading dock at all of the Wegman stores. Its all given away to city folk. FoodLink gets some as well. Not sure what you folks are talking about. Food in dumpsters? WTF are you talking about. I can tell you lots is given away.
It was not food it was a couple of discontinued Christmas items from months before. Wegman's for sure donates whatever leftover food they can.
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I would like one of Danny's discarded Ferraris. Maybe the red one.

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