Since: Jul 10

Cumberland City, TN

#21 Mar 20, 2013
TTH wrote:
The medical system is overloaded with drug seekers and individuals who refuse to accept responsibility for their own welfare (ie., obesity, smokers, non compliant diabetics, at risk behaviors etc.) People want a magic pill and it does not exist.
The medical system is going to get far worse with ObamaCare. Doctors will have no choice but to replace quality with quantity in order to survive. They will have no choice but to increase the numbers of people they can herd thru an office in a day to keep the doors open in the face of dwindling reimbursements. ObamaCare has us on the road to creating a "Third World Country" in regards to healthcare and personally I think that is what Obama wants.
We won`t realize how good we had it until what we have is gone.

Get ready for a bumpy ride my fellow Americans.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#22 Mar 20, 2013
Overloaded with drug seekers.How about Byuta-Januvia the diabetic drugs causing pancreatic cancer. Are these those drug seekers?
Trasilo-causes death,heart failure yep these seekers in for heart surgery.
Oh how about Chantax to quit the smoking habit not bad seekers too bad it has some nasties to go with it -like diabetes or attempted suicide.
Levitor is good if you want your tendons rupturing
This list gos on and on and on. Big time on and on.
And all this will cost ya big time in the wallet.
Does it really matter who pays for this witches brew?
hi there

Sparta, TN

#23 Mar 20, 2013
My question is, if white county didnt cover health insurance for their employees already who did before now? Tax payers?

People are so funny?

Hey who covered free loaders? Tax payers?

What is the difference from 10 years ago and next year, nothing, the answer just might still be tax payers. But 10 years ago obama wasnt in office and couldnt be blamed then.

GO OBAMA!!!!
BadMan

Sparta, TN

#24 Mar 20, 2013
hi there wrote:
My question is, if white county didnt cover health insurance for their employees already who did before now? Tax payers?
People are so funny?
Hey who covered free loaders? Tax payers?
What is the difference from 10 years ago and next year, nothing, the answer just might still be tax payers. But 10 years ago obama wasnt in office and couldnt be blamed then.
GO OBAMA!!!!
The county does not currently offer coverage through the business. If the employees wanted insurance, they used a third party provider.

Obama, like Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter...and on save a few, were but puppets. They were nothing more than mouths on a stick, given credit when required, and crucified after. Politics is a lie. If you think you the voter, taxpayer, worker, veteran, or any other respectable member of society have any more say than the freeloaders you mentioned, you are a fool.
hi there

Sparta, TN

#25 Mar 21, 2013
BadMan wrote:
<quoted text>
The county does not currently offer coverage through the business. If the employees wanted insurance, they used a third party provider.
Obama, like Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter...and on save a few, were but puppets. They were nothing more than mouths on a stick, given credit when required, and crucified after. Politics is a lie. If you think you the voter, taxpayer, worker, veteran, or any other respectable member of society have any more say than the freeloaders you mentioned, you are a fool.
Not a fool, I making a point as to who carried the insurance before all the obama blame now.

Why is it that people believe the county has to foot the entire cost of healthcare for employees. They just have to offer it. Heck if employers have to cover cost 100% it will be like getting a raise when we no longer have to pay our part of the cost. WOO HOO!

Maybe just maybe white county is just trying to blame obama for their want to bring extra money in. Obamacare is helping them get raises.
BadMan

Sparta, TN

#26 Mar 21, 2013
I received a letter a letter outlining three tax options to pay for this. Because it is the county department, not a private employer, taxes or rate increase on utilities are the options to consider. If it were a private employer, we would just tell him "That sucks" and be on our way. Because it is a municipal group, they can (and will) raise your taxes to pay their way.

Note: I did not mean YOU or anyone specific was a fool, just a generality, I am....passionate(?) about this.
ERNIE

Mcminnville, TN

#27 Mar 21, 2013
Why are the Citizens of White County expected to pay for the County Employees ins when some of us can't even afford our own and have to do without?
Sam

Cookeville, TN

#28 Mar 21, 2013
hi there wrote:
My question is, if white county didnt cover health insurance for their employees already who did before now? Tax payers?
Step Away From The TV, It is brain washing you!
Most people who work at a place without ins. get it in other ways. Yes there is some people with no ins. if I had to guess they feel they need a cellphone, cable and a Big TV, internet and computer, beer, and much more first.
It is called Personal Responsible, GET SOME
TTH

Cookeville, TN

#29 Mar 21, 2013
Hey wrote:
Overloaded with drug seekers.How about Byuta-Januvia the diabetic drugs causing pancreatic cancer. Are these those drug seekers?
Trasilo-causes death,heart failure yep these seekers in for heart surgery.
Oh how about Chantax to quit the smoking habit not bad seekers too bad it has some nasties to go with it -like diabetes or attempted suicide.
Levitor is good if you want your tendons rupturing
This list gos on and on and on. Big time on and on.
And all this will cost ya big time in the wallet.
Does it really matter who pays for this witches brew?
ALL drugs have side effects. Those side effects are weighed against potential benefit. Perhaps the decreasing availability of medical care under ObamaCare will have a positive impact upon public health. Unfortunately by allowing those who could have benefited from advanced care to suffer an early demise thru restricted access the population as a whole becomes healthier in a twisted sort of fashion. Sounds like another sick Socialist plan to me.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#30 Mar 21, 2013
TTH wrote:
<quoted text>
ALL drugs have side effects. Those side effects are weighed against potential benefit. Perhaps the decreasing availability of medical care under ObamaCare will have a positive impact upon public health. Unfortunately by allowing those who could have benefited from advanced care to suffer an early demise thru restricted access the population as a whole becomes healthier in a twisted sort of fashion. Sounds like another sick Socialist plan to me.
Did you ever hear of alternative medicine? How about real cures without side effects? How about cancer cured without killing you with the treatment that is as dreaded as the disease itself?
So how did alternative medicine get the shaft?Let's see how to eliminate the competitors to the drug based paradigm?
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/American...
TTH

Cookeville, TN

#31 Mar 21, 2013
First of all an effective drug without side effects does not exist. Anything advertised as such is a sham. No doubt many effective treatments are "undiscovered" in the natural world however it takes research and development to bring those to market. Unfortunately, under ObamaCare little impetus will exist to develop new treatments. The medical industry will only be able to get paid by prescribing those medications and treatments deemed effective by the government. How do you like dem' apples. The same bungling bureaucrats and lawyers that are so incompetent in Washington will be largely in charge of your healthcare.
hi there

Sparta, TN

#32 Mar 21, 2013
Sam wrote:
<quoted text>
Step Away From The TV, It is brain washing you!
Most people who work at a place without ins. get it in other ways. Yes there is some people with no ins. if I had to guess they feel they need a cellphone, cable and a Big TV, internet and computer, beer, and much more first.
It is called Personal Responsible, GET SOME
but people will never take responsibility therefor obama is going to make them. It is sad when there has to be laws passed to make people be responsible isnt it?

I know people who are offered insurance at work who dont have it and yes cell phones, running around gas money, cigarettes, etc are bought but they cant afford insurance. So I am glad someone has the guts to force them to support themselves.
BadMan

Sparta, TN

#33 Mar 21, 2013
hi there wrote:
<quoted text>
but people will never take responsibility therefor obama is going to make them. It is sad when there has to be laws passed to make people be responsible isnt it?
I know people who are offered insurance at work who dont have it and yes cell phones, running around gas money, cigarettes, etc are bought but they cant afford insurance. So I am glad someone has the guts to force them to support themselves.
Obamacare is not forcing people to take responsibility for their actions, it is free/very cheap to the recipient. Obama wants people to let the government take responsibility for everyone. We don't need a federal government so big that this issue (or drones, ndaa, patriot, ect...) every come to question.
listen

Sparta, TN

#34 Mar 21, 2013
TTH wrote:
ObamaCare has us on the road to creating a "Third World Country" in regards to healthcare and personally I think that is what Obama wants.
I agree 100%.
totheuneducated

Sparta, TN

#35 Mar 21, 2013
We already have 2 taxes in White County (Property and Sales) these affect every one why in Gods Name would any fool vote to add themselves a new one?
I have seen again we have some on this tread that have us to believe there are some that do not pay any of the above mentioned taxes so once again I am asking…..“Who does not pay property tax?” and “Who does not pay sales tax?” No one answered me last time but I really want these 2 questions answered by them.
Do they think they are only hurting these they think are not paying the taxes when they add a new one? Yes I pay a lot of property tax and yes I pay a lot in sales tax and if I had my preference nothing would be raised they would cut it else where. But I would rather both of the taxes I have now be raised than to give them a third one to raise in the future if the get in a bind again (AND THEY WILL)
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#36 Mar 21, 2013
TTH wrote:
First of all an effective drug without side effects does not exist. Anything advertised as such is a sham. No doubt many effective treatments are "undiscovered" in the natural world however it takes research and development to bring those to market. Unfortunately, under ObamaCare little impetus will exist to develop new treatments. The medical industry will only be able to get paid by prescribing those medications and treatments deemed effective by the government. How do you like dem' apples. The same bungling bureaucrats and lawyers that are so incompetent in Washington will be largely in charge of your healthcare.
Over 30% of the drugs are plant based and synthesized by Big Pharma to enable a patent which could not be gotten on a natural substance.
Big Pharma at one point, and not that long ago, roamed around the mountains to talk to the hicks to get the skinny on the old folk medicines.Thought they said this kinda stuff was just Quacksville.
Now Big Pharma wants FDA to pull a B vitamin
off the market cause they have big plans for it and big profits in mind.How could this be, this lowly substance.
Germany has already done research on herbal remedies known as Commission E.
There is a Chinese herb called I believe "The Thunder God Vine" which cures some cancers in 40 days.
First round of Chemo $17,000 big ones.Go figure.
This is what ticks me off with Obamacare.I don't choose their methods of CUT,BURN,and POISON but I'm to pay their way and pay my own way while they keep trying to pull the natural medicine off the market to help their friends in Big Get Rich Medicine.
It is a damn crime.
BadMan

Sparta, TN

#37 Mar 21, 2013
First of all, congratulations, you are now a Libertarian. Secondly, The American people are so subdued and ignorant of their governments plans and ideals, they will never stop it. Like Big Pharmacy, The Federal Reserve, NAFTA, The North American Union, ect... I would love to see a bloodless revolution, I believe it could have happened 35 years ago, but its chances are slim today. If you support socialist ideals and a socialist state, you are an enemy of any free state and patriot. Stop filling your eyes and ears with the BS only to pour it back out of your mouth onto your table.
hi there

Sparta, TN

#38 Mar 21, 2013
BadMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Obamacare is not forcing people to take responsibility for their actions, it is free/very cheap to the recipient. Obama wants people to let the government take responsibility for everyone. We don't need a federal government so big that this issue (or drones, ndaa, patriot, ect...) every come to question.
How cheap is it going to be?

You got any rate you can share>
TTH

Cookeville, TN

#39 Mar 21, 2013
"Germany has already done research on herbal remedies known as Commission E.
There is a Chinese herb called I believe "The Thunder God Vine" which cures some cancers in 40 days."

Do you have supporting data or evidence of those claims? Anecdotal claims are easily found. Not trying to argue with you but let's suppose it were true. Under socialized medicine (ObamaCare) money will never be spent to bring such a therapy to market even if true. Personally I like the sterile and proven efficacy of a prepared aspirin tablet as opposed to chewing several pounds of Willow bark. With ObamaCare you would have no choice but to find a Willow tree unless the government decides you need one and you do not have the cash to purchase. Of course you could be correct in one way concerning "alternative medicine." The Mexican medical system will probably see an upswing in business as citizens travel across the border for adequate care, at least those who can afford it.
Honestly

Beechgrove, TN

#40 Mar 21, 2013
dixie wrote:
<quoted text>well how are we gonna pay for it? i hope not by a property tax. the land owners are already keeping up the whole county.
but to the dem-libs we are the rich people. We are supposed to share. Now play nice..........

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