White County Jail
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Concerned Parent

Manchester, TN

#1 Jun 30, 2009
I am not proud of it but my son has been in and out of jail in White County many times and I asked him "Is that the way you want to live your life" trying to to get him to change. From what my son says, it's easy in that jail, he said they have new officers weekly and they can get by with anything, and drugs are just as easy to get inside as they are out. He said that only a few officers care about the job and the others just let anything go on or are even involved in it, he said the more you act up in that place the better you are treated, What kind of lesson are we teaching if that is the case, No wonder they keep coming back. I hear the guy that was in the paper for trying to kill the Sheriff is actually a inmate worker of some kind because he was so bad while he was in there. If this is the kind of example we are setting in our county jail no wonder all the criminals won't stay out. The inmates all joke because they say you act up a little and talk to the jail administrator and the supervisors and you get whatever you want, like extra phone calls or inmate jobs which give you extra time off your sentence. Maybe if that place was like that one jail in Arizona with that one Sheriff who is hardcore our troubled youth would not continue down a life of crime and would learn a lesson early on?
Hmmm

Monterey, TN

#2 Jun 30, 2009
No offense but you're going to blindly believe the tales of your son who might not be the best character witness? Do you have any proof to back up what you've heard? If not, I suggest you find out about the 'chair' and how much they all enjoy that.
It still amazes me how people are so willing to believe whatever story that just makes enough sense especially when it conveniently fits into their agenda or the excuses of those they want to believe. Where's the proof people?
No proof = gossip/rumor!
been there

Spring Hill, TN

#3 Jun 30, 2009
Concerned Parent wrote:
I am not proud of it but my son has been in and out of jail in White County many times and I asked him "Is that the way you want to live your life" trying to to get him to change. From what my son says, it's easy in that jail, he said they have new officers weekly and they can get by with anything, and drugs are just as easy to get inside as they are out. He said that only a few officers care about the job and the others just let anything go on or are even involved in it, he said the more you act up in that place the better you are treated, What kind of lesson are we teaching if that is the case, No wonder they keep coming back. I hear the guy that was in the paper for trying to kill the Sheriff is actually a inmate worker of some kind because he was so bad while he was in there. If this is the kind of example we are setting in our county jail no wonder all the criminals won't stay out. The inmates all joke because they say you act up a little and talk to the jail administrator and the supervisors and you get whatever you want, like extra phone calls or inmate jobs which give you extra time off your sentence. Maybe if that place was like that one jail in Arizona with that one Sheriff who is hardcore our troubled youth would not continue down a life of crime and would learn a lesson early on?
I worked at WCSD and what your son tells you is true. CO's try to do things right but the Major tends to give in to the inmates as if he is intimidated by them.There is only one person that is in administration that does things totally by the book and the inmates respect him but he was passed up for a promotion several times because of his desire to "fix" all the crap that goes on.One female Lt.seems to be allowed to do whatever she wants in the jail because she secures alot of "donations" she is a laugh to co-workers and even the inmates know she is crooked. On more than one occassion this thug hugger has been caught smoking with the inmates but nothing was ever done,cells are tossed and inmates punished for tobacco but if she fires it up then policy isn't important.If all jails are ran by the inmates as this one is then I understand why people reoffend,why wouldn't they? This jail was ran much better with the previous administration so there is hope that someday White Co. might again have a jail and not an adult daycare.Of course this is how I observed things and the above mentioned might have a different version so they are free to post it and enlighten the public.
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#4 Jun 30, 2009
Been There, are you who I think you are?
been there

Spring Hill, TN

#5 Jun 30, 2009
wcwchris wrote:
Been There, are you who I think you are?
dunno.
bob

Cookeville, TN

#7 Jun 30, 2009
your son is an idiot. the people working at the justice center take their job seriously. they are underpaid and have no health ins. this however does not stop them from doing the best job possible. you can tell when an inmate is lying because their lips are moving.this is the case with your son. i DO NOT work for the county. but i know the administration is serious about their job. they work hard to uphold strict fair standards without violating the inmates rights. maybe you should enroll your son in a year treatment program, cut him off, and stop making excuses for this career criminal. as for a flow of contraband BULLS**T. the inmates are searched daily. how about increasing the budget so a taller fence can be built or more officers can walk around the building 24/7, or more cameras can be installed. ithese officers are the 2nd lowest paid in tn. and they work hard along with the admin to make this one of tn's best facilities.AGAIN I AM NOT AN OFFICER AND I DO NOT WORK FOR WHITE COUNTY, but am am in the facility almost daily. and having been at taft and south east regional correctional facility both as a state employee i can say without reservation that no other facility works as hard or with more committment or diligence to run a better jail...
Velociraptor

Maryville, TN

#8 Jun 30, 2009
First of all if you haven't worked there or been booked in there then you have no idea how things worked in that jail. Ok everything that mans son said is true to the very word. I also worked there for a while and I can tell you that for the longest time the jail cameras didn't work inside or out. And even when they did work it didn't matter. Many of the officers there were crooked and lazy. The more they act up the better they get treated. It goes for officers and inmates alike. It's very true. Why do you think there is such a high turn over rate for the correctional officers there. Because officers like Lt. Hug-a-thug and her minions always takes the inmates side.Lt. Hug-a-thug belittles officers in front of inmates and puts those officers in extreme danger on a daily basis because she strips all power and authority from them. The Lt.'s even took away the power for the correctional officers to conduct cell searches to find weapons and contraband without approval from the hierarchy. The good officers are the ones that usually quit because they are fed up with the jail hierarchy spooning with the inmates. So what do you get in the end? Crooked officers and inmates that have successfully taken control of the correctional facility with little effort. There was a former SSgt. there that actually knew how to run a jail like its supposed to be run and took great care of his officers. He was passed over for promotion many times as "been there" stated in an earlier comment. All of the professional, by the book officers, were neglected and constantly passed over for promotions. These officers were eventually given offers they couldn't refuse by other departments, military service, or just plain quit. Someone needs to take a very close look at that department before an officer(s) gets killed for doing a job they get paid next to nothing for.
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#9 Jun 30, 2009
Wow, it's good to know that I'm not the only former employee on here. Then again, with the turnover rate the jail has, half of the county has worked there at one point.

I could go into a long rant about my time working in the jail or I could just keep my mouth shut and hope to get hired back when a certain Lt. finds another job. I'll sleep on it.
question

Easley, SC

#10 Jul 1, 2009
what does people think about the former jail administrator..Don Wilson... hes in jail in texas about to be released in oct of this year, serving a three year sentence....was he quilty of what he was accused or was he rail roaded because he was trying to inforce the law in the jail?
bob

Columbia, SC

#11 Jul 1, 2009
good am jackass, i am an independant contractor at the jail, i know how it works, oyher than promotions most of the officers who leave are more useless than people who complain on this web site (you for example). it amazes me that people who have served here both inmate and co have the audacity to bitch about something which they no nothing about. anyone who wishes to be educated could contact this administration and arange a tour, these people try to and succeed to do the best job possible. due to the constant turnover of people they work long hours. instead of crying about something which you obviously know nothing about why dont you post a solution for these "perceived" issues instead of blowing smoke. obviously you lack the "balls" to confront these people in person. sorry i am a poor typist but i used a few complex ( this means big to an idiot like you) words so you wont notice anyway

Since: Jun 09

Wartburg, TN

#12 Jul 1, 2009
Being an independant contractor is not being a correctional officer that has to work for the Sgt's, Lt's and Major by the minute, hour and day. You may be in and out of the jail but you aren't in there hours at a time. Anyone can act a certain way for certain people for a while. There are good and bad correctional officers just like there are good and bad leadership. The c/o's do get low pay, there aren't benefits and certain inmates are usually in more control that the c/o's. When the c/o's used to be allowed to do the job they were hired to do, things ran much better. Now, you do have some "thug huggers" that allow the inmates to get away with way too much. There are some inmates that c/o's are told to leave alone by higher authority. I have also worked in this jail as well as a couple more over the last few years and I have seen way too much to not agree with the Concerned Parent and Velocirptor. But remember crap runs downhill. Whatever is at the top usually trickles down...
Velociraptor

Murfreesboro, TN

#13 Jul 1, 2009
Bob your showing your ignorance by being the only one on here using fowl language. And good lord what would you know. Arrange a tour to find out what really goes on in the jail? HaHa yeah like they would instantly know the crap that goes on in that jail with a five min. tour. And by the way Bob all of the good officers have continually confronted the jail administrator and have continually got in trouble for trying to make a change. Some got fired just for questioning the higher ups and others were pressured into quitting. They try to succeed and do the best job possible? Then tell me Bob why would they hire a woman straight from Dairy Queen who later was arrested for helping an inmate escape. I know of one officer I worked with who was arrested for bringing drugs into the jail. His mug shot was on the front page of the expositor. I worked with many others who were fired for having sexual relations with the female inmates."it amazes me that people who have served here both inmate and co have the audacity to bitch about something which they no nothing about." Bob....that's you. You know nothing and are only pretending to know. Clean up your mouth next time you post on here. Maybe you'll sound half way intelligent.
Good Grief

Monterey, TN

#14 Jul 1, 2009
wcwchris wrote:
Wow, it's good to know that I'm not the only former employee on here. Then again, with the turnover rate the jail has, half of the county has worked there at one point.
I could go into a long rant about my time working in the jail or I could just keep my mouth shut and hope to get hired back when a certain Lt. finds another job. I'll sleep on it.
Chris, I have known you since you wanted to be a reserve officer and you were so lazy and goofy that none of the officers would let you ride with them. I don't know why you are not at the jail any more but my guess is you were so lazy they let you go. I hate to down you but one minute you are against law enforcement and the next comment you post you are for them. You need to choose one side of the fence or the other and stay there. If you truly want to be rehired one day I would keep my mouth shut.
Parenting

Monterey, TN

#15 Jul 1, 2009
Concerned Parent wrote:
I am not proud of it but my son has been in and out of jail in White County many times and I asked him "Is that the way you want to live your life" trying to to get him to change. From what my son says, it's easy in that jail, he said they have new officers weekly and they can get by with anything, and drugs are just as easy to get inside as they are out. He said that only a few officers care about the job and the others just let anything go on or are even involved in it, he said the more you act up in that place the better you are treated, What kind of lesson are we teaching if that is the case, No wonder they keep coming back. I hear the guy that was in the paper for trying to kill the Sheriff is actually a inmate worker of some kind because he was so bad while he was in there. If this is the kind of example we are setting in our county jail no wonder all the criminals won't stay out. The inmates all joke because they say you act up a little and talk to the jail administrator and the supervisors and you get whatever you want, like extra phone calls or inmate jobs which give you extra time off your sentence. Maybe if that place was like that one jail in Arizona with that one Sheriff who is hardcore our troubled youth would not continue down a life of crime and would learn a lesson early on?
Do you think better parenting would have helped your son?
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#16 Jul 1, 2009
Good Grief wrote:
Chris, I have known you since you wanted to be a reserve officer and you were so lazy and goofy that none of the officers would let you ride with them. I don't know why you are not at the jail any more but my guess is you were so lazy they let you go. I hate to down you but one minute you are against law enforcement and the next comment you post you are for them. You need to choose one side of the fence or the other and stay there. If you truly want to be rehired one day I would keep my mouth shut.
Interesting... once again lacking enough of a set to actually put a name to a statement. Put ur name down and I'll respond, until then, you are just another troll.
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#17 Jul 2, 2009
Just another troll.
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#18 Jul 17, 2009
Wow, someone has been busy judging posts lol. Look at all the icons.

It has got back to me that someone thought I may have been referring to them in my previous post about waiting for a certain LT. to leave. To that person, I wasn't referring to you and I believe a mutual friend will clear up my comment.
NOTWILLIS

Monteagle, TN

#19 Jul 18, 2009
wcwchris,
How are those push-ups coming ? Maybe three's a charm. Don't give up on your Dream. Then again maybe they will do another Police Academy Movie and you can get a part.
wcwchris

Morrison, TN

#20 Jul 18, 2009
They are coming fine. Thanks for asking. As far as a new Police Academy movie goes, wouldn't that be AWESOME!?!

Still not going to put a name to your comments huh...
NOTWILLIS

Monteagle, TN

#21 Jul 18, 2009
Chris I have to say I always did appreciate your sense of humor.

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