Illegal immigrants say they want a b...

Illegal immigrants say they want a better future for their families

There are 1012 comments on the www.djournal.com story from Mar 9, 2008, titled Illegal immigrants say they want a better future for their families. In it, www.djournal.com reports that:

BY EMILY LE COZ Daily Journal Jose and Carla Garcia live the American dream: They have jobs, pay taxes, own a home and raise their four children in a safe neighborhood with access to good schools.

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“Natural laws have no pity”

Since: May 07

Location hidden

#1 Mar 9, 2008
Jose and Carla Garcia live the American dream: They have jobs, pay taxes, own a home and raise their four children in a safe neighborhood with access to good schools.

U.S. citizens want a better life for their families too, this being the United States of America then the welfare her citizens should come first. But it's hard to get a decent job when illegals will work for less and in worse working conditions.

excerpt-The Garcias, whose names have been changed to protect their identities, entered America legally with tourist visas but work here illegally because their papers don't authorize them to hold jobs.

So they're criminals plain and simple.

If they're both college-educated then why couldn't they get work back home?

Most of north Mississippi's undocumented immigrants work in manufacturing, agriculture, the restaurant and service industry, and in the black market doing jobs like construction, landscaping, housing cleaning and yard work, said Carley Lovorn, executive director of El Centro, Tupelo's Spanish-language resource center.

I know quite a few citizens that would gladly move there if they thought they had a chance of landing any one of those jobs at a decent wage and health benefits.

Long before the nation was flooded with illegal aliens somebody picked the lettuce, mowed the grass, flipped burgers, dug the ditches, and cleaned hotel rooms. These entry level jobs were done by guest agricultural workers, the working poor, legal immigrants and, in the summer, by students. Given supply and demand in a capitalistic society and there still are plenty of legal immigrants and resident Americans who would do these jobs at a fair and free market wage.

Harvard Professor George Borjas has reported that illegal aliens displaced American workers at a cost in excess of $133 billion dollars in 2005.
The Wall Street investment firm Bear Stearns states we are losing $35 billion a year in income tax collections from jobs that are now off the books.$35B
National Academy of Sciences study estimated that immigration's net benefit to the American economy is only $10 billion. This item is included to illustrate one of the very few real economic benefits of tolerating illegal aliens. Most of the other benefits of illegal aliens "doing the work that Americans won't" at lower wages goes into the pockets of their employers.
A recent report notes that illegals sent and estimated $45 Billion south in 2006, which was up from an estimated $30 Billion in 2004. That money leaving the economy does not produce secondary jobs here. Using a 2:1 money multiplier, that is $90 billion removed from the American economy.$90B
A Census Bureau study estimates that households headed by illegal aliens used $10 billion more in government services than they paid in taxes in 2002. These figures are only for the federal government; costs at the state and local level are also significant. The study also finds that if illegal aliens were given amnesty, the fiscal deficit at the federal level would grow by nearly $29 billion.

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#2 Mar 9, 2008
Deport!!!
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#4 Mar 9, 2008
asian guy wrote:
if they cannot follow the legal procedure to come to the usa, they have no business being here at all.
these illegal aliens talk of only wanting to work here? then, go through the legal process to do so. otherwise, go back home. go something else. just don't come to america, you are not welcome.
LEAVE!!!!
You are Thai and a nasty minded little creep. Stop messing with things that do not concern you. Stay out of discussions about my country will you.

Jeepers.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#5 Mar 9, 2008
Fed Up wrote:
Deport!!!
You have their information, go down there and ferret them out instead of complaining on Topix.

Go ahead and do something instead of just flapping your gums.
Dan

Butler, OH

#6 Mar 9, 2008
Oregon is Disgusting wrote:
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You have their information, go down there and ferret them out instead of complaining on Topix.
Go ahead and do something instead of just flapping your gums.
I will only hire American citizens period.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#7 Mar 9, 2008
Dan wrote:
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I will only hire American citizens period.
Exactly how do you tell if someone is an American citizen period? How will you tell the difference between an Irish man or woman who is here legally or illegally with forged documents?

I remember seeing a couple of news reports that showed how incredibly easy and cheap it is to forge everything from drivers licenses to SS cards. Identity theft is rampant and 'law enforcement' does practically nothing about it since it is dull, accounting work and they do not have the brains to go after sophisticated thieves at any rate.

How do you tell pray tell? Do you hire American citizens whose parents or grandparents are here illegally. Would you, for example, hire that illegal anchor kiddie Alberto Gonzales?
cavalryman

Mcminnville, OR

#8 Mar 9, 2008
Oregon is Disgusting wrote:
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You are Thai and a nasty minded little creep. Stop messing with things that do not concern you. Stay out of discussions about my country will you.
Jeepers.
How do you know he is Thai? He could be Asian/American and visting Thailand. That is the same as me thinking that just because you are posting from The People's republic of Portland, you must be a nasty, stinking, drug induced liberal hippy. So why don't you get out of MY state, and go back to San-Fransico where you belong.

You have no right to tell anyone what they can post on here.

You make me want to puke. Typical lefty, all for free speach, as long as you agree with it. What a Nazi.

Go home.
Glory

Anaheim, CA

#10 Mar 9, 2008
Then do it in their own dam country! It's not America's fault their government is corrupt. And it's not up to American's to pay for it, and it's not fair to our children to have cutbacks, etc. because of the illegal alien overload.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#11 Mar 9, 2008
asian guy wrote:
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idiot!!! I'm american 100%. born and raised in OREGON, mind you.
do you think all americans are white?
talk about racist.
..repeat after me. if they are illegal, there is ONLY one thing that needs to be considered - DEPORTATION.
if you are illegal, you have no business STEALING services and benefits earmarked for americans that are paid for by americans.
GO BACK HOME!!!
I do not believe you. You keep posting through Thailand. If you are Thai then mind your own business and stop meddling in the affairs of my country.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#12 Mar 9, 2008
cavalryman wrote:
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How do you know he is Thai? He could be Asian/American and visting Thailand. That is the same as me thinking that just because you are posting from The People's republic of Portland, you must be a nasty, stinking, drug induced liberal hippy. So why don't you get out of MY state, and go back to San-Fransico where you belong.
You have no right to tell anyone what they can post on here.
You make me want to puke. Typical lefty, all for free speach, as long as you agree with it. What a Nazi.
Go home.
No, he is simply meddling in the affairs of other countries.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#13 Mar 9, 2008
Glory wrote:
Then do it in their own dam country! It's not America's fault their government is corrupt. And it's not up to American's to pay for it, and it's not fair to our children to have cutbacks, etc. because of the illegal alien overload.
If it is just simply a problem of money, go to the $3 TRILLION fiasco that is Iraq. THAT is real money that has a real effect on the USA and not in any good way.

I will never believe that illegal immigration is primarily about legality or economics as long as the knuckle dragging right wing fanatics support Bush, the Republican party, Iraq and McCain.

Those are the breaks kiddo.

“There's only room for ONE flag”

Since: Sep 07

Irving TX

#14 Mar 9, 2008
I did'nt even know which part of this story to comment on! im so tired of these poor little darlings and their frigging sob stories.........college educated and degreed but they decided that their life in messico was'nt good enough for them so they decided to come here, illegally! I love the part where Jose grazes over the part where yeah he's using someone elses ID to work but "I pay taxes", hey Jose what about the real person who's life your putting in jeopardy by earning money with his real ID, the social security benefits that he's going to lose because he did'nt report to them the income that YOU made? yeah real religious folks, kind of the like the Pastor who five days out of the week he beats the crap out of his wife and molests his daughter then the other two days he preaches to the rest of us poor misbegotten people for our sins.......and to change their real names? oh come on Jose and Carla, admitedly you know that what your doing is wrong, obviously your guilt is not strong enough to convince you to STOP BREAKING THE LAW! hell I want a new car because mine keeps breaking down all the time but I really cant afford a second vehicle loan and because I know where my neighbor keeps her spare set and she makes more money than I do im just going to go and "borrow" her beautiful new and shiny BMW and if she does mind well i'll just tell her that Jose and Carla get to break the law and just take what they want, why cant I?
Twocentsworth

United States

#15 Mar 10, 2008
T_LC wrote:
I did'nt even know which part of this story to comment on! im so tired of these poor little darlings and their frigging sob stories.........college educated and degreed but they decided that their life in messico was'nt good enough for them so they decided to come here, illegally! I love the part where Jose grazes over the part where yeah he's using someone elses ID to work but "I pay taxes", hey Jose what about the real person who's life your putting in jeopardy by earning money with his real ID, the social security benefits that he's going to lose because he did'nt report to them the income that YOU made? yeah real religious folks, kind of the like the Pastor who five days out of the week he beats the crap out of his wife and molests his daughter then the other two days he preaches to the rest of us poor misbegotten people for our sins.......and to change their real names? oh come on Jose and Carla, admitedly you know that what your doing is wrong, obviously your guilt is not strong enough to convince you to STOP BREAKING THE LAW! hell I want a new car because mine keeps breaking down all the time but I really cant afford a second vehicle loan and because I know where my neighbor keeps her spare set and she makes more money than I do im just going to go and "borrow" her beautiful new and shiny BMW and if she does mind well i'll just tell her that Jose and Carla get to break the law and just take what they want, why cant I?
I hope like hell that some one catches these Theives .

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#16 Mar 10, 2008
Here come the new neighbors
http://www.immigrationwatchdog.com/
Milt Smith

United States

#17 Mar 10, 2008
We don't have the resources to support the entire population of Central America!!! The illegal invaders here in the US must return to their home countries!!!

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#18 Mar 10, 2008
There up to no good as usual
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer...

Finally we get some muscle
http://www.irli.org/

“Reduce immigration levels”

Since: Dec 06

Kings Mountain, NC

#19 Mar 10, 2008
I am listening to Dobbs radio show. He has Jeff Sessions on.
1 in 25 people in this country are now illegal. This amount will NEVER assimulate!
We MUST get busy and DEMAND that something is done. If we sit back and do nothing we have no one to blame but ourselves.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#20 Mar 10, 2008
Fed Up wrote:
I am listening to Dobbs radio show. He has Jeff Sessions on.
1 in 25 people in this country are now illegal. This amount will NEVER assimulate!
We MUST get busy and DEMAND that something is done. If we sit back and do nothing we have no one to blame but ourselves.
You keep saying this over and over again day after day and yet you do nothing. Go and do something.

Jeepers.
Oregon is Disgusting

United States

#21 Mar 10, 2008
Fed Up wrote:
I am listening to Dobbs radio show. He has Jeff Sessions on.
1 in 25 people in this country are now illegal. This amount will NEVER assimulate!
We MUST get busy and DEMAND that something is done. If we sit back and do nothing we have no one to blame but ourselves.
"The investigation proved an embarrassment for the US Attorney, Jeff Sessions. A year later, in 1986, when Sessions was being considered for a federal judgeship, witnesses recalled his treatment of the Marion Three and several alleged racist remarks he had made about blacks during his tenure as US Attorney. A black former attorney who worked under Sessions said he was once called "boy" by Sessions and that Sessions once spoke fondly of Ku Klux Klan members who lynched a black man. Another witness said Sessions once called a white civil rights attorney a "traitor to his race." Sessions said the remarks about the Klan and the white attorney were jokes. The Senate Judiciary Committee did not find the jokes funny; Sessions was denied a judgeship, becoming the only one of Ronald Reagan's 269 nominees to the federal bench to be rejected. He did go on to become the Attorney General of Alabama.

Sessions, a Republican, later won the Senate seat vacated by Senator Howell Heflin, an Alabama Democrat who had voted against his judgeship. In the Senate, Sessions was one of the biggest critics of President Clinton's temporary appointment of Bill Lann Lee to the Justice Department's top civil rights post in 1997. Lee was at the time of his appointment the western regional counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the same group that opposed Sessions in his voter-fraud campaigns."

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml...

Bigot.

Since: Apr 07

Columbus, OH

#22 Mar 10, 2008
Oregon is Disgusting wrote:
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"The investigation proved an embarrassment for the US Attorney, Jeff Sessions. A year later, in 1986, when Sessions was being considered for a federal judgeship, witnesses recalled his treatment of the Marion Three and several alleged racist remarks he had made about blacks during his tenure as US Attorney. A black former attorney who worked under Sessions said he was once called "boy" by Sessions and that Sessions once spoke fondly of Ku Klux Klan members who lynched a black man. Another witness said Sessions once called a white civil rights attorney a "traitor to his race." Sessions said the remarks about the Klan and the white attorney were jokes. The Senate Judiciary Committee did not find the jokes funny; Sessions was denied a judgeship, becoming the only one of Ronald Reagan's 269 nominees to the federal bench to be rejected. He did go on to become the Attorney General of Alabama.
Sessions, a Republican, later won the Senate seat vacated by Senator Howell Heflin, an Alabama Democrat who had voted against his judgeship. In the Senate, Sessions was one of the biggest critics of President Clinton's temporary appointment of Bill Lann Lee to the Justice Department's top civil rights post in 1997. Lee was at the time of his appointment the western regional counsel for the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund, the same group that opposed Sessions in his voter-fraud campaigns."
http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml...
Bigot.
Printed in the Nation? LOL

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