Media Plus Consulting - Anyone heard...
Janet

Ireland

#21 Dec 22, 2012
I find it hard to believe that they do not distribute their magazines everywhere that they say they do. If a company is spending 25000 - 30000 Euro on a promotional message - they will surely follow up on the claims of the publisher.

I have my 2nd Skype interview early in the New Year and I was very positive about it until I saw this thread. I guess if things don't work out, I can at least benefit from the two weeks training in Belgium!

Could any of the former employees on this thread please answer some questions about the payment structure of the company. Suppose I get past Belgium, and am sent out onto the field - are I then paid a basic monthly salary? How is commission decided? Do they put you in nice hotels or in cheap hostels?

Thanks guys.
Seamus

Bellingham, MA

#22 Dec 28, 2012
This is in response to Janets question:

I just finished working with Media Plus, technically still do.

The pay is 1000 Euro per month for the first three months. After that, it is commission ONLY. Don't sell anything, don't make any money.

Also, keep in mind, the company takes out 250 Euro from each employee for a "technology security deposit", for equipment like a camera/recorder. However, I did not meet one employee who was given anything from the company. One of many things I instilled distrust.

This company in unique and it is important to know that you are disposable at anytime. If you take the job, look at it as a learning experience and an adventure, not a long time employment option.

If anyone has any questions, I'd be happy to help answer them as honestly as possible.
Jovana

Belgrade, Serbia

#23 Jan 2, 2013
I worked for the company just a couple of months, due to personal reasons I had to stop and I am still kind of regretting that decision.
Most of the things that are mentioned her about the nature of the job, meaning it is hard and stressful are true. However, you have to bear in mind that this is an unique job, but not only a job it is a lifestyle. True, it is not a long term one, you will not spend 30 years in the company and work till you are in pension. But you will have a once in a lifetime adventure. This is not a job for everyone. If you are looking for stability, 9 - 17 job, then you are knocking on the wrong door. If, on the other hand, you want excitement, hard work, challenges, completely different lifestyle, then you are on the right place.
Suz

Croatia

#24 Jan 17, 2013
Ok, same as Janet...now I'm worried...Seamus, is it really so? 1000 a month and then commission only?? I don't know what to believe..there are so many different comments here...

So, Seamus..if it's commission only, how realistic is it to earn something?? I'm a bit surprise 'cause I'm 41 and and experienced sales person and I really doubt they would even consider someone like me for just a 1000 EUR a month or no base salary at all...

Thank you for your answer..:)
MatCuypers

Brussels, Belgium

#25 Feb 4, 2013
I worked for media plus for a while, and I can tell you, it is the worst work experience I have had. They are not a real media agency, they do this "country branding" business so that the big boss who founded "the big media group" (the name itself is very modest!) can use it as a cover for some unsavory real estate business.

Your job is to basically con people. Their media is very low quality with spelling mistakes in it, the content is very poor, and they make you tell big broad lies all day long. But since their publication is not audited, they can say whatever they want when it comes to readership, circulation, distribution and so on.

Expect to barter all over the world to have a roof over your head, but if you barter too nice and plush hotels, they will tell you that this hotel is only for management and not for consultant and that you have to find another one.
Get ready to share your room with other consultants, no privacy at all, no "dietas" or allowances, you will get paid 500 euros the first two months, and the company does not invest anything on their projects and on their consultants. They will take a deposit of 250 Euros out of your first paycheck, but when I got to my first project, we did not even have the material and when I complained about it to other team members, they told me I should keep quiet because the company does not like people who complained!!!
I had to pay some cab rides for business purpose on my money!! They would even be reluctant at paying photocopies. PHOTOCOPIES????????

We even had trouble with some government officials, because our "sales manager" who's the most incompetent girl I have ever met, were parading around telling CEOs that we had met this and that ministers, when it was just big lies, and some CEOs realized she was making up reasons to meet them. In some countries, the business community is small and every one knows each other, so you should be careful what you tell people. Easy to verify!

But then of course, if the promo is not going well, and so far, I do not know how they survived, the big boss will fly to the country where you are and will sack you, telling you that the first reason why the project is not working is YOU!! Because you do not believe in the project and in yourself!
We were even ask to barter a printing shop so that we may print the "country report" for free!!!
Stay away from this company, they are many other agencies on the market who do a much better job, for respected business titles, and were people will treat you good, not like a slave.
They are simply the worst!
David

Denver, CO

#26 Feb 6, 2013
I worked for Media Plus/ Big Media Group from the end of 2009 to the beginning of 2011. I was two years out of undergrad but had lived oversees and was a good sales person. I was the right kind of person for this job. It is DEFINITELY NOT for everyone, actually its not for most people. I worked for Media Plus in six different countries on three continents.

I would like to answer some of the questions that have been posted on here. During my time no one had ever had to 'escape' from their hotel or past customs officials.

The first week of training in Belgium IS another interview. Only about 50% of those who start this training end up being hired. The company pays for your flight to Belgium, and if you are let go, they fly you back to the US. They pay for your stay while in Europe and even provide you breakfast and lunch. Yes, not everyone makes it, so if you have to sell your house, your car, breakup with your fiance don't go to Belgium. They hire young people who can be gone 300+ days a year and don't have a lot keeping them in the US.

Their headquarters are definitely still in Belgium. They have an office in Cyprus for tax reasons just as many US companies have an office in Delaware. Cyprus is part of the EU, it is not some country in the Caribbean or in Africa.

The pay is not great unless you are in the top 5-10% of the company. The guaranteed pay is only about 1000 Euros a month. Where you make money is in commissions. You don't pay for rent, car, cellphone, only pay for food, drinks and clothes in a developing country. In 2010 I made $50K, which was about middle of the road for those who were with the company for more than 3 months. I paid no tax as I made less than $87K and worked outside the US. A couple people made over $100K and a few didn't make $20k.

People are let go quickly. Our projects in Central America were not going well. Out of the nine of us working in the region, three were let go, two were demoted from managers and only two are still with the company now, the rest quit (including myself). Although, the two that are still with the company make GREAT money and really enjoy traveling the world.

You do work 60-70 hours a week and you do work on Sunday evenings. I liked it though, as you are working in your hotel or at a cafe, never in an office. You never have to share a room after the training. In the training you do share a room, of course not a bed, with a member of the same sex.

They do hire a lot of Americans because we are good sales people. European passports are excepted by more countries than US ones, so to say that they hire us for our passports is naive. We were usually on tourist visas because we were only in the country for a few months. Most countries do not require a work visa. The contracts are EU contracts, therefore, Media Plus is not required to pay taxes or be located in the host country. You are given a press pass not show to the companies you are working with, but to help us get free stuff, like tickets to concerts or VIP access at bars and clubs. I never once showed my press pass to a client.

This is a sales job. You do not go into the meeting saying that you are going to sell them advertising for a few reasons. First, if you told them the meeting was about adverting, they would want to know how much it is before you had built any value for the product. The advertising is expensive, that is why you need to build value. Second, you only try to sell companies that can afford it. What would be the point to try and sell a small restaurant that could never afford our prices? That was the consultants own mistake. Unfortunately, you often do not know the revenue of these privately held companies as they do not have to report it. Finally, you don't call it advertising because advertising sounds cheap.

I had a great experience because I was young and it was an AMAZING adventure. Do not attempt if you do not LOVE sales and traveling to developing countries.
Wang Dongg Haamb

Sonoma, CA

#27 Feb 7, 2013
Hello,
I dont work for them now. They did not hire me for the positions I worked at them there. My Englisch Major was it. Then they showed me pictures and I knew then. I think it was a different company so this does not count but I would like to have these pictures as they were very sexy and stimulated.

This is but a sample of the kind of crap we get from peoples trying to come to work in my company and I dont know what to say because we dont know what they are capable of only how stupid they sound which could be the case with the company in question. My dilema is that I dont want to disappoint people and so I hire them and they turn out to be goofs and nuts and weirdo and so we have to let them go eventually after complaints mount and odours surface. This may occur thouisands of miles away from their comfort zone but is a business decision. Different Company is better than me.
Dragana

Rijeka, Croatia

#28 Feb 19, 2013
This is for Mr. Mat Cuypers, hopefully, you will answer.
I have been called to the training in Belgium and have a couple of days to make the decision. I could use your help. So, there aren`t any perks of the company? After the trainee period, what are the earning possibilities? As I understood, the company does not arrange accomodiation but you have to barter for it? After leaving, did you get all the money earned/promised for?
Thank you so much for your help!
MatCuypers wrote:
I worked for media plus for a while, and I can tell you, it is the worst work experience I have had. They are not a real media agency, they do this "country branding" business so that the big boss who founded "the big media group" (the name itself is very modest!) can use it as a cover for some unsavory real estate business.
Your job is to basically con people. Their media is very low quality with spelling mistakes in it, the content is very poor, and they make you tell big broad lies all day long. But since their publication is not audited, they can say whatever they want when it comes to readership, circulation, distribution and so on.
Expect to barter all over the world to have a roof over your head, but if you barter too nice and plush hotels, they will tell you that this hotel is only for management and not for consultant and that you have to find another one.
Get ready to share your room with other consultants, no privacy at all, no "dietas" or allowances, you will get paid 500 euros the first two months, and the company does not invest anything on their projects and on their consultants. They will take a deposit of 250 Euros out of your first paycheck, but when I got to my first project, we did not even have the material and when I complained about it to other team members, they told me I should keep quiet because the company does not like people who complained!!!
I had to pay some cab rides for business purpose on my money!! They would even be reluctant at paying photocopies. PHOTOCOPIES????????
We even had trouble with some government officials, because our "sales manager" who's the most incompetent girl I have ever met, were parading around telling CEOs that we had met this and that ministers, when it was just big lies, and some CEOs realized she was making up reasons to meet them. In some countries, the business community is small and every one knows each other, so you should be careful what you tell people. Easy to verify!
But then of course, if the promo is not going well, and so far, I do not know how they survived, the big boss will fly to the country where you are and will sack you, telling you that the first reason why the project is not working is YOU!! Because you do not believe in the project and in yourself!
We were even ask to barter a printing shop so that we may print the "country report" for free!!!
Stay away from this company, they are many other agencies on the market who do a much better job, for respected business titles, and were people will treat you good, not like a slave.
They are simply the worst!
CMR

Cape Coral, FL

#29 Feb 22, 2013
I interviewed with this company, they told me I would be training in Brussels Belgium... which I was not.. a driver picked me up from the airport late at night when my flight arrived. We drove one hour, to overpelt, belgium where he dropped me off at a huge house on a farm ... with nothing for miles and miles. I was by myself, in this big house... all of the doors were locked except for the room I was assigned to sleep in. I assumed everyone else was asleep that night and just went to bed. I woke up in the morning to the sound of the drivers horn honking to alert me it was time to go to the office. I got in the car and left the door open, assuming that I would be waiting for my other collegues to join me- he yelled at me to close the door now! I told him I thought the others from my training group were going to come to the office with us. He said, you are the only one, and good luck to you here. His comment and demeanor scared me but I forgot about that once I arrived to the office brainwashing training session. I studied marketing and brand management for my Master's, and I am very intuitive.. I was very tired and very jet lagged and trying to adjust.. so I let a lot slide the first few days of training and fell asleep from exhaustion in the creepy mansion when I got home. I had no outside communication with my family or friends because my laptop didnt work on the farm and I couldnt use it at work. The driver would not take me to get a sim card for my international cell phone so I went into survival mode. I slept in bed for 2 weeks and threw up and did not eat so that I got really skinny and finally they sent me home... one of the scariest experiences of my life. My last night there some guys my age that worked for the company came to the house to rest in between their trips, and I told them about my experience... they said for a female this work is really dangerous and this company does not care to even pay for you to fly home usually so consider yourself lucky for three reasons, that you decided not to work here, that you are going home and that you are alive. Some of the girls they knew were put in Malaysian prision because they were selling advertising as a visitor in the country and the company would not help get them out.
I have a family member recently hired by this company can anyone give me any concrete negative info about this company, or its business practice before we make a final decision on this company and spend money moving over seas.. thanks
RS London

London, UK

#30 Feb 28, 2013
The facts: Common sense is not very common!

Let’s have a frank conversation and enough of the gobble...

There is an apparent romanticism on blogs where for once, your voice has a form of significance, that one can air their own dirty laundry, whilst thinking that it was a foreign force that made them cheat, lie or provide false information to clients. The reality is something more of a blazing crash to earth. 99% of the time, those very people are the ones who got sacked for acting in that very way. Maybe you had a pushy manager or an annoying partner… BUT no one in my experience has ever forced me or asked me to do the things mentioned.

My experience of being in the field with MP and other companies no way matches the supposed “reality” of the disgruntled employees that are prevalent on a few niche blogs. I understand, in most cases the people who were given the boot would be very upset because it’s human nature. But the reality of it folks is that you can find negative information on any company you search for. Just look at trip advisor at your favourite restaurant / hotel / resort!

In my opinion, companies like Media Plus and all companies that offer that much freedom, act as a mirror to each individual; if you are given that much responsibility and that much power/ trust and no one is there apart from you to monitor your actions... what do you think will happen? Yes I agree companies like these should hire responsibly and maybe psychometric testing should be introduced.

The unfortunate thing is common sense is not very common and a word or warning to the wise.... working for this company is not for everyone, there is a revolving door and for good reason. Candidates will say anything to get this job and once they realise that it’s much more then free travel they quit. If you apply, you need to be aware that: you have to work hard, that you will be pushed to your mental capacity and that you have to be independent. There will be times of heightened celebration, and there will be times that you want to punch your partner square in the face (or so I heard). But in the end it will open your eyes to the world and I think those feelings and those experiences are the ones that make a career with this company very unique.
ana

Belgrade, Serbia

#31 Feb 28, 2013
hmm so funny...I am also offered the position and not sure what to do.
Brutus Brutee

Sonoma, CA

#32 Mar 1, 2013
ana wrote:
hmm so funny...I am also offered the position and not sure what to do.
Join the TEAPARTY. We will bring everything down by underfunding it and fooling with the election laws so that only right thinking gun owners can vote and stop all retirement and healthcare and universities where they study things no one understands and stop all taxing of the wealthy as they dont want to pay and that is what we are for. Do what god tells you or make something up and stop bathing.
Mammy Stynx

Sonoma, CA

#33 Mar 1, 2013
Howya,

I got a job with a sales co. that included some kinda OJT training. They took us out to a "sample" district. The teacher said "how about here?"..and in to the apartments we went. He poked a number with a peculiar da-dit-da-da that he said was at random, and a woman answered and said to come right up. She was bit drunk. The trainer pretended they had never met and the drunk lady bought the vacuum cleaner right off without no demo. That was the training. Well, after a whole day of slammed doors dragging cleaners that I paid a big deposit for I got smart and took a cab back to that first building and rang that same bell and the same drunk, now a bit drunker, buzzed me in. She bought eight vacuum cleaners and I got mostly cash and left the area on a train. Hoo Gam. Now I work in Human Resources where they too believe anything, and I learn all kinds of secrets. Hoo Gam.
Samba1

Antibes, France

#34 Mar 14, 2013
Frits Netherlands wrote:
I've worked for them about 10 years ago. In my case I was forced to r*p-off people. A project running in the provence of Quebec, Canada was about to fail. Because of my background they considered me to be experienced so my manager and I replaced the consultants that were there.
It turned out that the two of us weren't able to save the project either. Meaning, we just couldn't find enough advertizers among "the captains of industry" we interviewed. The 10 or 12 that did advertize payed between $2500 and $60000 for their "promotional message" (never say advertisement we were tought!). I asked my manager Robert Fernhout (moved to Thailand) what would happen with them. This is what happened. Instead of a readership of e.g. 300.000 which was the case when a report was actually published, only 20 copies were made and each advertizer received one as proof that the issue was published. Expensive advertisement don't you think? To get out of the country without getting arrested I had to lie my way out of the hotel and through customs. Now, I'm not saying that this happened with every report, but after my experience I heard from ex colleagues that this happened in other cases as well.
Another thing is that Media Plus has several press agencies. So for example you work for "International Press". As soon as you made a sale you handed in your notes at the head office. This way your colleague that worked for another subsidiary e.g. "Media Television" knew exactly on what basis you made a sale to someone. Knowing that, it wasn't really hard for your colleague to make another sale a few months later. Chances were that an unlucky "captain of industry" could get hit by more or less the same company up to 7 times in just a few years. Same company, only using different names.
In those days they were still based in Belgium. Later on they moved the company to Cyprus. I guess because regulations are much tighter over there... Mwoeahahahaha!
If you are thinking about working at Media Plus, you don't need to wonder what my advice is ;0)!
P.s. I still have their handbook for the international consultant. It's quite funny!
It would be interesting to catch these people red handed. Please send me a soft copy of their handbook, etc...
gary

London, UK

#35 Apr 11, 2013
I worked with them and left them after few months, a very strange and wicked ppl company, what they say is not true, avoid them if you dont want to enter into trouble. All i can say. Stay away from this time waster company.very very dangerous and bunch of liars they are.
Faith Roberts

Mexico, Mexico

#37 May 8, 2013
I have been in the special report industry a few years and there are many reputable companies in it. There is always emphasis on the sale of advertising because that is how these companies earn money, but this is said upfront. In the reputable companies that does not mean that "captains of industry" as someone called them do not get published. There is seriousness behind the editorial work. However, Media Plus is known in the industry as being particularly sinister and their product is truly terrible. A lot of people are traumatized by their tactics. Their "Apprentice" trainings with people fired on the spot in front of others are absurd and disrespectful. In many of these better companies you are told you don't have the job until you go through a one-week training: this also allows you to figure out if it is for you. Some people after the training realize they don't want the job or the company realizes the person is not right for it. After this training you should be allowed time to go home and sublet your apartment or quit your job. You should NEVER do this before going through a training. Stay away from Media Plus and AFA/NOA as they are unprofessional: there are reports of them not paying people's salaries and commissions and not publishing reports, leaving a string of lawsuits and contracts signed by YOU and not fulfilled.
sypolar

Sofia, Bulgaria

#38 May 21, 2013
The product exists, the TV shows are aired, the Magazines are distributed. You can check on line at the following sites to see their product: www.european-times.com and www.Asiabusinesschannel.tv , for example. You can all the shows, all the interviews, all the magazines.
Not for everybody -- this job is for the adventurous, sales-minded person. the others write negative BS as you can read above. The Feb 28 comment from RS London is accurate, read that before deciding to interview (and most people PASS the 2 week training; only a small percentage don't.
undecided

Europe

#39 Jun 25, 2013
Could someone tell me how is to work in this company?
There are people who talk bad, others good, I would like to know That part is true.
I Understand That the work is hard but I would like to have a more precise idea.

Could anyone help me?
CRO

Europe

#40 Jul 11, 2013
Frits Netherlands wrote:
I've worked for them about 10 years ago. In my case I was forced to r*p-off people. A project running in the provence of Quebec, Canada was about to fail. Because of my background they considered me to be experienced so my manager and I replaced the consultants that were there.
It turned out that the two of us weren't able to save the project either. Meaning, we just couldn't find enough advertizers among "the captains of industry" we interviewed. The 10 or 12 that did advertize payed between $2500 and $60000 for their "promotional message" (never say advertisement we were tought!). I asked my manager Robert Fernhout (moved to Thailand) what would happen with them. This is what happened. Instead of a readership of e.g. 300.000 which was the case when a report was actually published, only 20 copies were made and each advertizer received one as proof that the issue was published. Expensive advertisement don't you think? To get out of the country without getting arrested I had to lie my way out of the hotel and through customs. Now, I'm not saying that this happened with every report, but after my experience I heard from ex colleagues that this happened in other cases as well.
Another thing is that Media Plus has several press agencies. So for example you work for "International Press". As soon as you made a sale you handed in your notes at the head office. This way your colleague that worked for another subsidiary e.g. "Media Television" knew exactly on what basis you made a sale to someone. Knowing that, it wasn't really hard for your colleague to make another sale a few months later. Chances were that an unlucky "captain of industry" could get hit by more or less the same company up to 7 times in just a few years. Same company, only using different names.
In those days they were still based in Belgium. Later on they moved the company to Cyprus. I guess because regulations are much tighter over there... Mwoeahahahaha!
If you are thinking about working at Media Plus, you don't need to wonder what my advice is ;0)!
P.s. I still have their handbook for the international consultant. It's quite funny!
I am right now in the process of hiring, and after reading all these, I become very sceptic. Now, I am in doubt. Because on their websites everything sounds too good to be true. What is their interest to higher and fire people so quickly??? And please, can you share this handbook?
Current Consultant PBM

Mandaluyong City, Philippines

#41 Jul 17, 2013
I am currently working for Media Plus, out in the field in Asia.
The first thing people need to notified of is the fact that 99% of the comments made are by ex-employees who did not suit the job. This job isn't for everyone, agreed - however, if you receive the correct training, then you will fly and this can be the greatest opportunity you will endeavour.
My training took place in Belgium, it is first class. I was recruited and trained by Rajan S Nazran, who has broken record after record in the field, and provides a training like no other. My group (all trained by Rajan) are all doing exceptionally well in the field, loving the job and heading for exceedingly successful futures. This training prepares you properly, so you will not be left feeling disgruntled (like so many of the above) because you were not prepared properly.
There are a high number of quality trainers who will correctly prepare you. If you want an experience like mine - which essentially is the best situation I could have hoped to be in, then my strong advice is to get directly in touch with Rajan, find out when he is training and grab this opportunity by the horns.
If you are deterred by such comments that are to be found on this site, then feel free to reply to me on here - I'll paint the genuine picture.

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