Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32098 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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#19248 Dec 7, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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And you want to deny the power of indoctrination. It is hard for people to break out of the teachings of their childhood. It can be done, I'm proof of that, but it is never easy. I never said we didn't have free will, I said speaking against Mormonism isn't a crime. Leaving Mormonism brings you joy.What you listed are crimes, which will make you very unhappy when caught.
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Not about how right it was for me to have left Mormonism. No conflict whatsoever except from family members who couldn't deal with it.
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A church isn't "saved". People are. The Salvation army does good works among the homeless and poor. Working with them allows me to do the same. Apparently that seems to be a problem with you, not me. And one Captain's opinion isn't church policy. If idiots made a church untrue, then Mormonism certainly fails that many times over.
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You are in complete denial about yours. Show us statements by Smith asking for compassion for homosexuals. Your words were "always", wasn't it? Brigham Young called for death on the spot for people who had interracial marriages. That's a strange type of compassion, if you ask me. I can't see it.
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Your stupidity, betrays you.
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I know what you have admitted to. It was enough. You smoke, drink booze, and coffee. That makes you eligible by church standards to hold any office or practice any priesthood callings. You certainly wouldn't be allowed to have a temple recommend. You're nothing in the Mormon church, just a seat warmer who shouldn't be even taking the sacrament. That is your church's beliefs and teachings.
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I do it for Jesus Christ, not any church. You seem to be unable to grasp that concept. No wonder you are so lost.
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That is only an excuse for not being able to say what the church can do for you, because it is doing nothing for you. They won't even let you have the jobs they let 12 boys do. That has to be a slap in face. Having some 12 year old having more priesthood authority than you would be an embarrassment to anyone except another 12 year old.
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You don't sound happy to me. In fact, you sound just the opposite. You sound "jaded, angry, and bitter"!
My, oh my!
Welp, guess that's the danger of judging me by your warped sense of reality. Your assessment of the world we live in is incorrect, so you judge people all wrong.

Everything is A-OK in my world. And spiritually speaking, I agree with the doctrine of my church, while you do not agree with the doctrine of yours.

That is a conflict you must come to terms with.

http://americablog.com/2012/11/salvation-army...

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#19249 Dec 7, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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What mob? What do I want to burn down? Where have you seen me advocate violence even against church property? I don't. I believe in freedom of religion, even a false one like yours. I also believe in the freedom to try to change the hearts and minds of the people of that church. You just are pissing your pants because people won't shut up and stop telling the truth about the evil nature of your faith. You want a system where the LDS church can spread it's lies without challenge. That isn't going to happen. Get over it.
I've noticed that as your level of frustration rises, so does your level of vulgarity.

You can spout your nonsense ad nauseum. Those solid in the faith simply ignore you.

Since I find you humorous, I jump in from time to time and post. But if you think I take you, or any of this, seriously, you are quite mistaken. As I've said before, I don't play video games, so this is my video game.

Oh, and I'm watching Mr. Bean on Netflix as I type, which should clearly indicate my level of seriousness.

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#19250 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
<quoted text>Welp, guess that's the danger of judging me by your warped sense of reality. Your assessment of the world we live in is incorrect, so you judge people all wrong.

Everything is A-OK in my world. And spiritually speaking, I agree with the doctrine of my church, while you do not agree with the doctrine of yours.

That is a conflict you must come to terms with.

http://americablog.com/2012/11/salvation-army...
Ur cult just admitted being gay isn't a choice..are u crushed yet, militia man?

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19251 Dec 7, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
You don't sound happy to me. In fact, you sound just the opposite. You sound "jaded, angry, and bitter"!
My, oh my!
Funny you accuse of another of what you are concerning Mormons. Nearly all your postings of Mormons have been about your loving to hate them with a seething hateful spiteful malevolence against them.
You have long established how jaded, angry, hateful and bitter you are for Mormons and their beliefs.
I will admit, your speech isn't as trashy as it once was, so that seems to be an improvement in your mental maturity of learning how to speak without all the crass and vile language you once used :)

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#19252 Dec 7, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Funny you accuse of another of what you are concerning Mormons. Nearly all your postings of Mormons have been about your loving to hate them with a seething hateful spiteful malevolence against them.
You have long established how jaded, angry, hateful and bitter you are for Mormons and their beliefs.
I will admit, your speech isn't as trashy as it once was, so that seems to be an improvement in your mental maturity of learning how to speak without all the crass and vile language you once used :)
When SCOTUS says denying gay rights is illegal what r u going to do??? One day it's evil, next day it's legal..it's going to be really hard for u..the life I denied yourself is now embraced. Bless your heart

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#19253 Dec 7, 2012
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>When SCOTUS says denying gay rights is illegal what r u going to do??? One day it's evil, next day it's legal..it's going to be really hard for u..the life I denied yourself is now embraced. Bless your heart
U denied

“Good day to you!”

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Earth

#19254 Dec 7, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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What mob? What do I want to burn down? Where have you seen me advocate violence even against church property? I don't. I believe in freedom of religion, even a false one like yours. I also believe in the freedom to try to change the hearts and minds of the people of that church. You just are pissing your pants because people won't shut up and stop telling the truth about the evil nature of your faith. You want a system where the LDS church can spread it's lies without challenge. That isn't going to happen. Get over it.
Challenging Mormons about their beliefs is one thing. Persecuting Mormons for their beliefs with your malevolent hate speech for Mormons, that's mob mentality.
I keep telling you what you do with Mormons is no different than what Jews did with followers of Jesus 2000 years ago. They found him a rogue and a wolf in sheep's clothing. They saw he wanted to change their beliefs and their very doctrines they had followed for way over a thousand years. They heard him make prophecies that they didn't see come to pass which to them, that made him a false prophet. They watched his own group of intimate followers, his closest aides and friends turn against him and his doctrine.
You are with the Mormons where the Jews were with the Christians 2000 years ago. They attacked their leader and his doctrines as you attack their leader and his doctrines.
And the ironic thing of all these comparisons is your as proud of what you do to Mormons and their beliefs as the Jews were proud of what they did to Christians and their beliefs.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#19255 Dec 7, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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When SCOTUS says denying gay rights is illegal what r u going to do??? One day it's evil, next day it's legal..it's going to be really hard for u..the life I denied yourself is now embraced. Bless your heart
That's funny! What am I going to do? I had no idea I would have to do something if SCOTUS makes same sex marriage legal. I have never denied anyone what they wanted to be, honestly! lol.

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#19256 Dec 7, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>Challenging Mormons about their beliefs is one thing. Persecuting Mormons for their beliefs with your malevolent hate speech for Mormons, that's mob mentality.
I keep telling you what you do with Mormons is no different than what Jews did with followers of Jesus 2000 years ago. They found him a rogue and a wolf in sheep's clothing. They saw he wanted to change their beliefs and their very doctrines they had followed for way over a thousand years. They heard him make prophecies that they didn't see come to pass which to them, that made him a false prophet. They watched his own group of intimate followers, his closest aides and friends turn against him and his doctrine.
You are with the Mormons where the Jews were with the Christians 2000 years ago. They attacked their leader and his doctrines as you attack their leader and his doctrines.
And the ironic thing of all these comparisons is your as proud of what you do to Mormons and their beliefs as the Jews were proud of what they did to Christians and their beliefs.
..so when it's legal for to be gay, are u going to hug the closet and refer to evergreen?? Clinging to that hate makes u sooo bitter. Be happy, u can be free soon !

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#19257 Dec 7, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>That's funny! What am I going to do? I had no idea I would have to do something if SCOTUS makes same sex marriage legal. I have never denied anyone what they wanted to be, honestly! lol.
Cute.. The hate u spew in the name of exgayness makes me feel sorry for u.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19258 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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I've noticed that as your level of frustration rises, so does your level of vulgarity.
Vulgarity? Piss is in the Bible, your Bible:
1 Samuel 25:22
So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.

That is only one example, it is used 6 times. Your divine book is vulgar, oh my!
You can spout your nonsense ad nauseum. Those solid in the faith simply ignore you.
As a smoking drinking, Mormon, that would not be you. That would be the opposite of you.
Since I find you humorous, I jump in from time to time and post. But if you think I take you, or any of this, seriously, you are quite mistaken. As I've said before, I don't play video games, so this is my video game.
Haven't been hearing any humor in your posts for a long time. It appears you can't even be truthful about yourself, with yourself.
Oh, and I'm watching Mr. Bean on Netflix as I type, which should clearly indicate my level of seriousness.
It certainly shows you level of taste in movies.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19259 Dec 7, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Welp, guess that's the danger of judging me by your warped sense of reality. Your assessment of the world we live in is incorrect, so you judge people all wrong.
No, I've got you dead center in my sights.
Everything is A-OK in my world. And spiritually speaking, I agree with the doctrine of my church, while you do not agree with the doctrine of yours.
A smoking, drinking Mormon is anything but spiritually OK. He certainly shows the church isn't true, by the way he lives his life. Praising Mormonism is booze in one hand and a cigar in the other. That's a joke.
That is a conflict you must come to terms with.
http://americablog.com/2012/11/salvation-army...
There's never any conflict doing the work of the Lord. You should try it sometime.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19260 Dec 7, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
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Funny you accuse of another of what you are concerning Mormons. Nearly all your postings of Mormons have been about your loving to hate them with a seething hateful spiteful malevolence against them.
You have long established how jaded, angry, hateful and bitter you are for Mormons and their beliefs.
I will admit, your speech isn't as trashy as it once was, so that seems to be an improvement in your mental maturity of learning how to speak without all the crass and vile language you once used :)
Again, you need to learn how to read. I fight Mormonism, not Mormons. It['s funny that the best representatives of the Mormon church that can be found here are both jack Mormons who are the bottom of the barrel in the eyes of the church.
Pathetic.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19261 Dec 7, 2012
No Surprise wrote:
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Challenging Mormons about their beliefs is one thing. Persecuting Mormons for their beliefs with your malevolent hate speech for Mormons, that's mob mentality.
I keep telling you what you do with Mormons is no different than what Jews did with followers of Jesus 2000 years ago. They found him a rogue and a wolf in sheep's clothing. They saw he wanted to change their beliefs and their very doctrines they had followed for way over a thousand years. They heard him make prophecies that they didn't see come to pass which to them, that made him a false prophet. They watched his own group of intimate followers, his closest aides and friends turn against him and his doctrine.
You are with the Mormons where the Jews were with the Christians 2000 years ago. They attacked their leader and his doctrines as you attack their leader and his doctrines.
And the ironic thing of all these comparisons is your as proud of what you do to Mormons and their beliefs as the Jews were proud of what they did to Christians and their beliefs.
You are a drama queen, aren't you? I'm the same as the Jews going after Jesus? Do you see me calling for the death of Mormons here? I don't advocate violence, I don't even want to pass laws to outlaw Mormonism, but I'm on the same level as those in the past who have killed, murdered, and raped. You'll get over it baby. You are total wussies. LOL!
Wisdom

Rochester, KY

#19262 Dec 8, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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You don't know LDS history.
You base your theory upon two primary false assumptions:
First off, the Gospel of Jesus Christ is not a false religion.
Secondly, the LDS Church has never made any attempt to isolate believers. In fact, quite the opposite is true. Wherever the LDS Church has based it's operations, it has always interacted with the local community, as well as sending emissaries out worldwide to make it's message, presence, and location known.
The "Mormons" did not move to Utah, because Utah did not yet exist. The "Mormons" moved out of the United States into undeclared territory, because they were constantly harassed, threatened, had their property stolen and destroyed, and were even murdered, because their religious beliefs differed from those around them.
Very similar to what happened with the early church, including Christ's disciples.
Church leadership was unsuccessful in obtaining legal redress from civil government, and became tired of constantly having to move and rebuild, so a more permanent solution was sought. By all accounts, that solution was quite successful, in that the church was able to build and grow into a more stable opposing force by the time the U.S. government came around to enveloping them again.
The very existence of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints today, and it's growth worldwide, is testament to the success of inspired decisions made by the LDS pioneers who moved the church west.
All any of you Mormons need to do is name ONE false prophet of any cult at any time in history that did NOT have these four things in common.
1. Man said he is God or has a new message from God.
2. Same man always makes himself the leader.
3. The leader always isolates his followers from the outside world.
4. There is always some type of sexual perversion.

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#19263 Dec 8, 2012
Dana Robertson wrote:
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No, I've got you dead center in my sights.
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A smoking, drinking Mormon is anything but spiritually OK. He certainly shows the church isn't true, by the way he lives his life. Praising Mormonism is booze in one hand and a cigar in the other. That's a joke.
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There's never any conflict doing the work of the Lord. You should try it sometime.
Except that you claim to support gay rights, while the leaders of your church send out their official spokesmen to condemn gays to death:

http://www.change.org/petitions/salvation-arm...

Nope. No conflict there.

Major Craibe sounds like a lot of Islamic Clerics:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11635...

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#19265 Dec 8, 2012
Hey ya'all!

Postum is back!

http://postum.com/

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#19266 Dec 8, 2012
NoMo wrote:
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Ur cult just admitted being gay isn't a choice..are u crushed yet, militia man?
Don't know what cult yer talkin' about.

But this might interest you:

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/salvation-...

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#19268 Dec 8, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Don't know what cult yer talkin' about.
But this might interest you:
http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/salvation-...
This one....u know, the one with a profit and his quorum of lizards.

http://www.mormonsandgays.org/

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#19269 Dec 8, 2012
Cary L Nickel wrote:
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Except that you claim to support gay rights, while the leaders of your church send out their official spokesmen to condemn gays to death:
http://www.change.org/petitions/salvation-arm...
Nope. No conflict there.
Major Craibe sounds like a lot of Islamic Clerics:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11635...
Nope, no conflict, because I'm not here saying the Army isn't homophobic. I'm not claiming it's "the only true church." I'm not blind to it's problems, like you are to Mormonism.

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