Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32098 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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“The Pleasure is all MINE”

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#24826 May 3, 2013
I say bankrupt so you, being original, the original superior minded white man reply by calling my argument bankrupt.

You can't even stay on the topic. You try to digress so BADLY.

First you tried "so what". that didn't work. They you tried "well your people were bad too" THAT didnt work.

So now you try copying my technique.

Mormonism teaches that blacks came from the mark of cain. This is because Mormon founder Joseph Smith stupidly assumed it was true based on popular beliefs around him, NOT BECAUSE OF A REVELATION FROM GOD.

He lied in producing the Book of Moses and Book of Abraham. Those two writings are fabrications from Joseph Smith only. Because these contained stupid 18th century sentiments on black skin color and obviously did not come from Moses nor Abraham.

Got it? Good.
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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All you can do is pull the Klan card because you have nothing left. You're entire argument is bankrupt. Oh, I'm glad you enjoy my insults. I'll be sure to continue with them, eggplant.

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

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#24827 May 3, 2013
and all you are doing is posting canned replies to just tally up the "I replied to all his posts" card.

Whoopee, so I socked you in the mouth all over this thread and you reply by trying to "touch me last".

Oh you win. Because I'm going to sleep.
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Grasping? Grasping? Yep, you're grasping alright...
And your replies are proof you're not as smart as you think you are.

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

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#24828 May 3, 2013
osirica thinks that only Mormons currently teach that Blacks come from the mark of Cain.

thats all Osirica is saying.

Can you understand english or are you just stupid... i mean what's the malfunction over there.

The Mormon scriptures are the point here.
Father overtime wrote:
And yes Osirica thinks nobody but Mormons had slaves. How about all of your Christian faithful little laddy. Ever occur to you that the country u live in was built on slavery? Go back to kindergarten child. Let the adults interact although NoMo really isn't one. Because truth matters.

“The Pleasure is all MINE”

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#24829 May 3, 2013
And because of your witty reply, somehow magically Blacks were the descendents of Cain!

So your reply is all it took to win the argument. Look at YOU! Big MAN there.

Atta boy... just make a witty reply last and magically it's all better, just like underwear.

Don't even bother addressing the actual evidence. You know "Oath" "Mark" "A WHOLE BODY CHANGING FROM ONE COLOR TO THE NEXT"

Jesus atonement SKIPPING over this curse for 1800 years...

or the fact that Aaron's grandson was Nubian...

Lets just not TALK about that.

LOL... you LOST boy.

Move on to another topic. Go talk about gay stuff, or the urimm and thuminn or whatever you guys try to talk about to get some legitimacy or saving face.
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Like I need your permission to continue replying... Talk about "ego" replies. No one here holds a candle to you, peacock. No one.

Since: Sep 12

Branson, MO

#24830 May 3, 2013
osirica wrote:
<quoted text>You took this long to regurgitate the same tired distraction?

I am conddemning Mormonism for teaching incorrect historical, incorrect interpretations, and incorrect analysis of Biblical scripture.

All this "blaming whitey" crap for slavery can go in another thread. I only responded to your excuse about it. Heck I should be "glad" that slavery happened? Remember dimwit?

All this crap below? It's just a distraction from the main point:

MORMONISM IS WRONG FOR TEACHING THAT BLACK PEOPLE CAME FROM CAIN.

Bottom line, cut to the chase, stop squirming around.
Stop squirming??? Read back, dumbass! You asked me to address your points! Which I did. In fact, you couldn't wait, remember??? It is you who is using the same old tired distractions, eggplant. It's obvious you have no reading comprehension because I didn't post anything about slavery in there, dipshit. LEARN TO READ!!! And you should be thankful. If your ancestors were there, there's a good chance you would never have been alive. If you did make it, even though odds would be against it, you'd probably be handless, have an empty outstretched belly, and be wearing a weed thong.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

Since: Sep 12

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#24831 May 3, 2013
osirica wrote:
And again
You cannot take a lie that someone fabricates and speak truth into it merely by invoking the concept that God "could" have made it true if God wanted.
See, the fact is, God could turn your computer into a ham cheese sandwich yesterday. But obviously he didn't do that. So if I went around trying to make an argument that your computer was transmuted into a ham-cheese sandwich, but you know it wasn't... what am i doing? I'm simply speaking lies...
So is it with Joseph Smith and Mormons. So is it with this entire Curse of Cain black people lie.
So God didn't make the decision, because God simply didn't. It never happened. God didn't decide to make Cain's descendents into 8 legged insects either. He COULD Have, but didnt
<quoted text>
Cool...

Now, your problem is with racism and slavery... and how Africa is superior...

But, if that is the case I have a question for you... do you support the fact that the Egyptians from Africa are the ones that started slavery?

The Egyptians inslaved the Hebrews... right?

Do you have a problem with that?

Since: Sep 12

Branson, MO

#24832 May 3, 2013
osirica wrote:
<quoted text>I say bankrupt so you, being original, the original superior minded white man reply by calling my argument bankrupt.

You can't even stay on the topic. You try to digress so BADLY.

First you tried "so what". that didn't work. They you tried "well your people were bad too" THAT didnt work.

So now you try copying my technique.

Mormonism teaches that blacks came from the mark of cain. This is because Mormon founder Joseph Smith stupidly assumed it was true based on popular beliefs around him, NOT BECAUSE OF A REVELATION FROM GOD.

He lied in producing the Book of Moses and Book of Abraham. Those two writings are fabrications from Joseph Smith only. Because these contained stupid 18th century sentiments on black skin color and obviously did not come from Moses nor Abraham.

Got it? Good.
Geez you really are stupid, eggplant. Oh, because you used a word, no one else can use it, "because that's copying me!" Grow up, dumbass. You might be used to being treated like a child, but this isn't kindergarten.

Since: Sep 12

Branson, MO

#24833 May 3, 2013
osirica wrote:
<quoted text>and all you are doing is posting canned replies to just tally up the "I replied to all his posts" card.

Whoopee, so I socked you in the mouth all over this thread and you reply by trying to "touch me last".

Oh you win. Because I'm going to sleep.
If anyone is giving canned replies it's you peacock. Every post contains the same tired "mark of Cain" bullshit. You're the crowned king of canned. Also, you might think you socked me in the mouth, but I certainly pissed in yours.:-)

Since: Sep 12

Branson, MO

#24834 May 3, 2013
osirica wrote:
<quoted text>And because of your witty reply, somehow magically Blacks were the descendents of Cain!

So your reply is all it took to win the argument. Look at YOU! Big MAN there.

Atta boy... just make a witty reply last and magically it's all better, just like underwear.

Don't even bother addressing the actual evidence. You know "Oath" "Mark" "A WHOLE BODY CHANGING FROM ONE COLOR TO THE NEXT"

Jesus atonement SKIPPING over this curse for 1800 years...

or the fact that Aaron's grandson was Nubian...

Lets just not TALK about that.

LOL... you LOST boy.

Move on to another topic. Go talk about gay stuff, or the urimm and thuminn or whatever you guys try to talk about to get some legitimacy or saving face.
Is that my CD skipping? No! That's eggplant talking (screaming) about the mark of Cain. Hopelessly waiting for an apology. You have to be running out of breath by now, Mandingo.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24835 May 3, 2013
osirica said...
1. You're trying to bring out the Adam-race theory again. Yes we know, you're "not". You're "merelY' trying to separate the religious argument from the evolutionary one... right?
1a. Nooo...lol...not bring out anything. I am trying to help you keep things seperated as they shoild be which you don't want to do. If we discuss the creation of humanity according to the Bible that represents God, we can't logically use evolution that excludes a "god factor".
If we discuss the evolution of humanity according to science, we can't logically use what the Bible says to help prove evolution true. Doesn't work that way though you want it to work that way.
2. Funny, how your point revolves around "who invented what first".
That doesn't prove anything. Did you personally invent it? No. Could you personally invent it? No. There are thousands of black prodigies, 14, 15 years old that can bury you intellectually. Half of them won't get past the ghetto, the other half you can search online.
2a. Some more of your extreme racist prejudice bubbling to the surface again. My point wasn't never, never about "who invented what first" you fricking hypocritical black racist. Can't you ever think as a person? Do you always have to think as black racist? Why can't you ever think as a human?
My point of how humanity "evolved" through
"inventiveness of mind" was WHERE it happened, not "by what colour it happened from you asinine racist. Tan to dark brown ancient humans were the first colours to begin to use their mental capacities for inventiveness.
The inventions of humans took place mostly outside of Africa where you claim Eden was. All of the inventions of the human mind should have taken place to the east of Eden and trailed out to the rest of the world where more and more inventions would have taken place. IT DIDN'T HAPPEN LIKE THAT. That's evidence, not proof, that Eden was somewhere else. Get it? To the east of Eden is where the cradle of human inventiveness should exist in the ancient forms of herding, agriculture, housing, metalsmithing, temples, megalithic buildings, villages and towns and cities and boating and all of that should be able to be shown spreading out to the rest of the world. Get it?
3. You are literally trying to claim that whites are superior to blacks.
3a. Some more of your pathetic black racist ranting...you should really quit with that crap...

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

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#24836 May 3, 2013
1) Osirica explain to this forum who gave you AUTHORITY over ABRAHAM'S religion.

2) Osirica explain to this forum who gave you AUTHORITY to declare Adam and Eve were Black.

3) Osirica explain to this forum how Adam and Eve came from Africa when the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers are described in the Old Testament.

4) Osirica explain to this forum why it's ok for the EGYPTIANS in AFRICA to enslave the Hebrew... but it's not ok for people to enslave blacks.

and
PROVIDE EVIDENCE with your explanations.

If you can't do that then you can not PROVE your and you are debating fruitlessly because your argument is illogical.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24837 May 3, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
You don't realize the implications on yourself you've made in referencing the casual encounter section of Craigslist? Is that what you do in your good Christian loving caring truthful time? Scan apparent sex ads? Just wondering.....

sportxmouse

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#24838 May 4, 2013
*your argument and you are debating fruitlessly because your argument is illogical.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#24839 May 4, 2013
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
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Ahhh... so that IS what you're saying and believe.
Funny that you're so ashamed of being white. It would be so much easier if you could only change the color of your skin. But since you can't you'll trudge on apologizing for it, and accepting the blame for all the injustices wrought upon the black man alleviating him of any and all responsibility. What a heavy burden you must bear.
I'm just trying to talk to you here, not fight. I have no shame of being white. You have admitted to being a cop in LA. No doubt you have been in Compton and South Central. Think about being born there, and trying to get out. While it can be done, the road is hard and very few make it due to restrains imposed by just being born there. This level of poverty has creates a man eat man atmosphere, which over time would break the resolve of any man. This would be true of any race. You can see it in part of Hong Kong with Asians. You can see it in parts of Mississippi and Alabama with whites. You can see it in Mexico city with hispanics. Poverty will always bring the worst out of any people of any color. It's not a race thing, it's a lack of hope thing. A lack of opportunity thing.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#24840 May 4, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't realize the implications on yourself you've made in referencing the casual encounter section of Craigslist? Is that what you do in your good Christian loving caring truthful time? Scan apparent sex ads? Just wondering.....
I don't, some member of a Exmormon group I belong to posted it. Wonder all you want.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24841 May 4, 2013
osirica wrote in a delusional state of mind...
1. Do you really think your stupid friend would distract me while you go on and on trying to get Dana to like you more?
1a. If Dana was a friend I would never be in need of back stabbing enemies...
2. Listen Mormon...
2a. You're high or something that's causing you delusions, I'm not a member of the LDS church. I do discuss their doctrines with idiots that don't understand their doctrines, that's true!)
3. I'm sorry that you think the racial hate in your religion is such a small matter, such a trivial side story...But it's not.
It's the main story, it's the most significant HOLE in your religion.
3a. The articles of racism you speak of in LDS writings, they don't hold a candle to the sheer intensity of the racial hatred that flows from your mind and lips like a frothing rabid animal. Racism is all you are. Racism is all you think. Racism is all you accuse. You have become your own worst racist monster and you can't see it. Over 50% of everything you think to write here is all bout your racist thoughts concerning others. What you do is really, totally mentally unhealthy. As you said..."THink about it."
4. You taught that a curse was placed on the second generation of humanity, to such a degree that not even Jesus ressurrection and grace was enough to lift it, and even though it was Cain's sin, this curse was to be punished upon his descendents that you call black people today.
that is SO FUCKING EVIL. It's the core evil teaching that has caused so much destruction.
4a. Your such a black hating racist you can't even read what was written correctly. You'd rather perpetuate the wrong interpretation than to speak of it in correct context. That shows your racist hating heart of intent to be and remain a racist.
To speak of the theory as the theory goes but addressing it according to what the actual verses state, Cain was never CURSED with black/dark skin. He was MARKED with dark/black skin for protection so he wouldn't be harmed. That is how those verses should actually be understood for that theory. Racists and racially minded people like you call the skin thing a curse. You would actually reference it as a mark, it wasn't referenced as a curse. The mark, no matter what the mark was whether it was a letter or number burned into his hand and or forehead or a rainbow gay flag sewn to wood that grew from his head or back or a halo of pink and blue blinking lights IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE MARK WAS, IT WASN'T CALLED A CURSE BY GOD. Go read the fricking verses and quit calling the mark a curse.

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

Since: Sep 10

Marysville, CA

#24842 May 4, 2013
Livinginthelandofcrazy wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that my CD skipping? No! That's eggplant talking (screaming) about the mark of Cain. Hopelessly waiting for an apology. You have to be running out of breath by now, Mandingo.
Crazy, I'm going to pull a "Not Ashamed" here and ask you to remember who you say you are. I'm asking you to please stop the "eggplant" and "Mandingo" remarks. You say you represent Christ, and even though I disagree with you because you are Mormon, I know your heart wants to be Christlike and that you want to be Christlike. Let's try to do as he would want us to do. You're an intelligent man, you can make your points without doing that.
Please.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24843 May 4, 2013
osirica wrote:
Oh my lord,
this guy is trying to compare historical analysis in GENESIS (1/16th of the Biblical history) with the ENTIRE writings of the Book of Mormon.
Do you really feel the need to base your post on a lie? Is it that important for you to tell lies that you can't discuss what was actually stated? You have to lie so much that addressing what was written just isn't fun or maybe that's boring for you?
You lied. You really lied a lot and for what purpose?
I never compared the Bible to the BOM.
So you lied. You lied and you didn't need to lie.

sportxmouse

“Duty is a Privilege!”

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#24844 May 4, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text>Tsk.... Tsk.... Tsk. Shame on you Dana. Why are you showing Carols pics on here?
Actually that sounds more like you:

POST 10018
not ashamed wrote:
<quoted text> That's bull. I have been Mormon a long time and almost all my skirts are above my knee. Being 5'10 makes long skirts hard to come by and no one has ever said mine was to short. We are modest not nuns. Stop over playing the truth. I still believe any lady Mormon or not should be at the very least modest enough that there is some mystery to her.

“Good day to you!”

Since: Oct 08

Earth

#24845 May 4, 2013
osirica wrote:
Really...
based on my hypocricy?
Ok lets keep this in mind.
Your idiot religion took the bad translation of "OATH" to "black skin color" and canonized it in their own scriptures as a lost book of Moses and Abraham.
Now please tell me the hypocritical double standard on the Christian Bible side.
<quoted text>
The Christian Bible supports racism in many ways according to your logic. I can find more instance of slavery and God making laws for slaves and God telling slaves to obey their master than I'll ever find written in the BOM. And that Bible still endorses slavery and the owning of slaves to this very day, even if their are laws by man against it.
Which is more important to you? Obeying God that endorsed and supported the owning/having slaves or obedience to what man tells you not to do? God never revoked his stance on slaves, what now? You said slavery is racism. Your logic proves your God by your thinking your God is a racist as he endorsed and still endorses slavery. Your God is a racist by your statements of what a racist is. Now what?
Tell me now how you will prove your God that's a racist by you're logic isn't a racist. This should be an interesting response.

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