Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

Who says Mormons aren't Christians?

There are 32098 comments on the CNN story from Oct 12, 2011, titled Who says Mormons aren't Christians?. In it, CNN reports that:

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#22598 Mar 22, 2013
True Christian wrote:
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No Hell? YOU WISH! If Jesus said it, I believe it. Period! He called it Hell and warned us against it. Later, much later, your so-called prophets came along and invented a new god (yes, with a small G) and your people believed a lie. If it were truth, it wouldn't have changed a bazillion times since Joseph Smith received his "revelation" message! That guy was a complete kook. Here's the funniest part about it. YOU KNOW IT TOO, but it's easier to stay in your comfort zone (the ridiculous) than to seek out the Truth.
Of course God can be in three places at once. He can be in a million places at once. That's what makes Him GOD - with a capital G! He is not only omnipresent, He is also omniscient and omnipotent, and THAT is why my God is so much more powerful and worthy to be praised than your own. I don't worship someone smaller. I worship the Almighty! The One who created the heavens and the earth. The One who created us in His own image - possessing a body, a soul, and a spirit. We are ONE individual with three "parts" that make up the whole. The same is true of God, but He is ALL-POWERFUL and able to operate in the miraculous.
Your church has diminished both His person (Diety) and His power (Supremacy).
Although I don't often preach hell fire and brimstone... I'll make an exception:
Mormons believe in Hell, its in the Book of Mormon. I think it is best described here:
Mosiah 2:38
"Therefore if that man represented not, and remaineth and dieth an enemy to God, the demands of divine justice do awaken his immortal soul to a lively sense of his own guilt, which doth cause him to shrink from the presence of the Lord, and doth fill his breast with guilt, and pain, and anguish, which is like an unquenchable fire, whose flame ascendeth up forever and ever."

Although hell is not mentioned by name here, I think it illustrates very well what hell will be like for those who do not repent and turn to Christ.

“ Soon: too late to protest”

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#22599 Mar 22, 2013
Mormons Baptize Notorious Killers
Mass murderers and serial killers are among the millions of deceased who have been posthumously baptized in
Just one of many articles explaining this:
(next post)

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#22600 Mar 22, 2013

“Good day to you!”

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#22601 Mar 22, 2013
Protester wrote:
Mormons have told me that they’ve been told to be ready to move to Salt Lake City.
So, because their leaders were smart enough to prepare for the coming disaster, their people will survive.
Big deal. Because their leaders have deceived them so well, they won’t survive Hell.
I'll call you a fibber/liar and raise a truth on you.
For the last many decades Leaders in the Mormon church have told LDS to remain where they live, not to flock to Utah.

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#22602 Mar 22, 2013
NoMo wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, I'll be sure and do that, except it makes no sense
It was your statement, why would it not make any sense to you?

"One of my (Mormon)co workers told me yesterday how awful some of her "friends" try to make her feel about not being married in the temple. They(her Mormon friends) think they are superior and don't miss a chance to rub it in. I suggested she(my Mormon friend) change wards but evidently that's not as simple as just it sounds."

I said..(revised)
"You should tell your friend she should chat up how good her non-temple wedding went when these co-workers begin to chat about their temple marriage, just saying :)
Is that simpler to understand?

“Too much LDS in the 60's”

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#22603 Mar 22, 2013
Father Overtime wrote:
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And i'll baptize all of your ancestors too. Because you don't know gods work.
You getting wet isn't going to help anyone.

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#22604 Mar 22, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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More of your jibber jabber? The judge disagreed with you
My jibber-jabber to your jibber-jabber. Your friend approached people he didn't know. He spoke accusingly to people he didn't know. He was being purposefully antagonistic and there were probably children walking in with parents when he created his little scene and for what good? He didn't want to ask a question, he wanted to piss people off and he accomplished his task.

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#22605 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Black or White, the teaching was wrong, racism is wrong, discrimination is wrong. it doesn't matter what the majority of the people think, it is wrong. Rather if it is White Christians, Black Christian, Mormons, or any other group you want to use to justify it, it is wrong.
Do you know how fricking insane it is to judge a people of a different century of different views by ours? That's like having people living in the 18th century and them coming back to us and we listening to them judge us how crazy, wrong and insane our ways are compared to how they feel.
With the exception being to murder and rape and such crimes floating from one century to the next, you'll never ever be right or correct to judge a past society's moral values against your own moral values today.

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#22606 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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It's not only my complaint, it is the complaint of many members also.
You're inability to see the difference is a demonstration of your willful ignorance to support cult teachings.
My inability to see the difference??..lol..fricking pleaseeee....
There is a minority of temple weddings that happen every year and there is a huge growing population of Americans choosing elopement which also keeps relatives from coming to the wedding and you nit pick on a small amount of temple weddings and you say I can't see a difference? lolol.....yeah righty...

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#22607 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Where did I ever claim that my Dad was God? I'm just giving you an example how even a man can be 3 different people at the same time in a mortal state. If even a common man do so, how much easier would it be for God?
I wish you would learn how to keep on topic instead of trying to change the conversations by going off in directions no one else is.
You stated...
"An good example is that even a man can be three things at the same time. He can be a son to a mother, a husband to his wife, and a father to his children.
He is 3 in 1. Different aspects, all."
It was a really bad comparison. The trinity god speaks to itself, prays to itself and has a father son relationship with itself. Normal humans(unless with a proven personality disorder case)don't do those things. But your trinity god does them all and more. It claims one part of itself is more powerful than the other two. One claims it does nothing but what it sees the other do. One states it's going to give all things to the other at the day of judgement.
That is your trinity god. And all of that mess and nonsense is totally good with you. Okie dokie...

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#22608 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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You think changing homes is a reasonable response? Have you ever bought a home?
You do go out of the way to be silly sometimes, pathetic.
Having friends that own their own realtor companies, I can tell you from conversation I have had that a select minority of home owners stay in one home longer than ten years. Most home owners go through renting a home and moving about before making that first buy. And most move from that first buy within a few to several years for various reasons, the economy being the bigger reason move again.

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#22609 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
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Tell Father Overtime, he is the one who claimed "there is no Hell."
I believe he was referencing the 'fire and brimstone hell with devils and pitch forks, the age old Christian concept of hell. That is the one he doesn't believe in.
He said what he believes which is a Mormon concept...
"It's called outer darkness, and I do not believe many can get there even if they tried. Our god is all merciful, and he won't send people to outer darkness without fair opportunity."

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#22610 Mar 22, 2013
NoMo wrote:
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Using religion to justify bigotry is about as unchristian as you can get
Black Christians do it. So do Asian Christians and Latino Christians and Native Indian Christians and White Christians. They all think They are the colour of God.

This sanctimonious thinking you and Dana seem to have that Mormons have suddenly cornered the market on bigotry/racism/discrimination simply doesn't amazes me.

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#22611 Mar 22, 2013
NoMo wrote:
Alan Osmond is emceeing the "march for marriage" event on the steps of the Capitol, march 26th. He's promoting his grandchildren, who will provide entertainment..
Reminds me of Fred Phelps, with those kids holding god*hates*fags signs.
More mo-land bad behavior, right?
People said once same sex marriage would find equality with the law and people, people who still disagreed with it would become the victims for having an opinion against it. Same sex marriage advocates said that wouldn't happen and they were liars.
Your statement..."Reminds me of Fred Phelps, with those kids holding god*hates*fags signs." perfectly proves their point.

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#22612 Mar 22, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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It was your statement, why would it not make any sense to you?
"One of my (Mormon)co workers told me yesterday how awful some of her "friends" try to make her feel about not being married in the temple. They(her Mormon friends) think they are superior and don't miss a chance to rub it in. I suggested she(my Mormon friend) change wards but evidently that's not as simple as just it sounds."
I said..(revised)
"You should tell your friend she should chat up how good her non-temple wedding went when these co-workers begin to chat about their temple marriage, just saying :)
Is that simpler to understand?
Eaxactly, your jibberish makes no sense.

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#22613 Mar 22, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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My jibber-jabber to your jibber-jabber. Your friend approached people he didn't know. He spoke accusingly to people he didn't know. He was being purposefully antagonistic and there were probably children walking in with parents when he created his little scene and for what good? He didn't want to ask a question, he wanted to piss people off and he accomplished his task.
Stay clueless.. The judge agreed with him

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#22614 Mar 22, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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People said once same sex marriage would find equality with the law and people, people who still disagreed with it would become the victims for having an opinion against it. Same sex marriage advocates said that wouldn't happen and they were liars.
Your statement..."Reminds me of Fred Phelps, with those kids holding god*hates*fags signs." perfectly proves their point.
Like the Klan is a victim of social change? Youre chasing a losing streak

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#22615 Mar 22, 2013
No Surprise wrote:
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Black Christians do it. So do Asian Christians and Latino Christians and Native Indian Christians and White Christians. They all think They are the colour of God.
This sanctimonious thinking you and Dana seem to have that Mormons have suddenly cornered the market on bigotry/racism/discrimination simply doesn't amazes me.
Sweet please include every other group u can imagine that supports hate..so ur cult won't seem "so bad

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#22616 Mar 22, 2013
Dana Robertson wrote:
Who the hell is against marriage? Why don't stand up and support the right for gay people to do the same?
http://wellbehavedmormonwoman.blogspot.com/20...
It's a matter of having an opinion. If we can't have opinions, we have become a very liberal, socialistic government run society where government tells you correct and incorrect thinking.
Slavery was wrong because people were forced into it.
Discrimination was wrong because it forced people not to interact with each other.
There are laws for interracial marriage, but a large portion of Americans feel marrying within one's race causes a lot less problems. That's an opinion.
There are laws for same sex marriage but people still feel marriage should be between a male and female as nature/God designed it, that's an opinion.
When did having a person opinion against same sex marriage or interracial marriage become such a vile, discriminating thing to have? It's a right to disagree and you think people shouldn't have a right to disagree or else stand ready to be called derogatory names.

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#22617 Mar 22, 2013
True Christian wrote:
It is the Great Mystery because it cannot be fully understood by man. With our finite and limited minds, we are unable to comprehend the Trinity, and yet with our hearts, we can believe in the truth of the this mystery as taught in the Word of God - the Bible NOT the BOM, which is heresy!
The trinity is a man made concept. The gnostics prior to the establishment of the church in Rome had a belief in a single God. There was also the concept of three individual beings each as a God prior to the church in Rome.
The apostles saw evidence of separate beings and each with the power of a God. They saw many examples of these three beings. John saw two of them in his vision. If Paul's vision was like John's than he also saw the Father and the Son. At Jesus's baptism, the disciples of John saw Jesus being baptised and heard God the Father speak as the Holy Spirit descended in the form of a dove. The apostles listened to countless talks by Jesus where he stated he was not the Father and the Father was not he, that they were explicitly different beings and the Father was more powerful than he was. They saw the Holy Spirit act with Jesus and separately.
It wasn't till the bishops began to get together 200 years after the death of Jesus and reading what they had access to that they decided God and three personalities and it was punishment by death as a heretic if one in the church didn't accept that teaching.
The trinity doctrine was forced by threat of murder if the people didn't accept it. Just as they were taught the scriptures were to be had by the church, not the people. Just as they were taught the church would preach the gospel according to their opinion of it, not the people.
Any disbelievers were judged heretic and if unrepentant were usually killed by fire or torture.
That's the history of your man made trinity concept. It never ever came from the lips of God. God never said make a mystery of me. God never said he would make it impossible for the righteous to know and understand him and who and what he was.

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