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Loren Eberly

Alexandria, OH

#6601 Jul 22, 2012
Smith Dairy Installs CNG Fuel Station:

Smith Dairy installs CNG fuel station to save money. This enables Smith Dairy Stockholders (money marketers) to market more stock dividends (money) quarterly in the wholesale and retail price of Smith Dairy products.

Before 1973 consumers paid $.20 to $.22 for a gallon of hazardous waste (gasoline) derived from refining crude oil. Paid $.12 per gallon for fuel oil needed to heat and cool American Dream and burn in diesel engine.

OPEC Nations and Enron Stockholders hold corporations, farmers, businesses, outsourcer sweatshops, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organizations and Churches, Government employees, Parents, Teachers, Veterans, Police, Firemen, and Fathers disqualified for affirmative action with white skin, Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and America’s grandchildren’s children accountable; to pay for the more stock dividends (money) OPEC Nations and Enron Stockholders (money marketers) market quarterly; In the wholesale and retail price of CNG fuel, gasoline, and #2 oil. That gets only CNG fuel, gasoline, and #2 oil.

Needed to measure and maintain the strength and growth of this unaffordable economy and distribute money Human Beings cannot digest; burn in internal combustion engines; or burn to heat and cool their American Dream. Into OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors Stockholders, and Government portfolios; Makes CNG fuel, gasoline, and #2 oil UNAFFORDABLE.
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6602 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I think you are losing your mind. Businesses beg for government interference so they can up their prices? That doesn't even make sense. Why would any business need government for them to increase their prices?
Having a business in the US extends far beyond cheaper labor. It goes much further. To give you an example, this is what you have to fund if you are a business in the US today:
Workman's Compensation insurance , unemployment insurance, health insurance for you and your employees, paid holidays, paid vacations, match SS contributions, match medicare contributions, OSHA regulations fines, costs and updates, unions, time and a half for employees working over 40 hours, city tax, state tax, federal tax, environmental regulations, and I'm sure I forgot some.
Do you think they have any of this in China, Vietnam, Mexico or anywhere else for that matter? Of course not. This is why companies move out of the US.
Yes, businesses are businesses for profit--not to furnish jobs for Americans. We conservatives have been trying to pound that into your liberal heads for years now. It's liberals who insist that corporations are a social obligation to this country. Commie Care is a fine example of that.
You forgot that they aren't allowed to hire 8 year olds either? How do they get by?
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6603 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Exactly. When I was a kid in school, we didn't have a cafeteria, a gym, school busses or air conditioning. When it got hot outside, the nun just opened up a window--no screens to keep the bees out either.
My Lord, how did we survive without taxpayer dollars?
That obviously resulted in a crappy education.
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6604 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I went to the closest one to my house this weekend (about 10 miles away) because I had the craving for their honey BBQ wings. Once you get those, it's a taste that haunts you forever.
The major problem in America is we are getting too cheap; even with our food. So restaurants cut, cut, cut until their most famous meals no longer has the taste it once had.
As an older person (52) I can remember what a real Big Mac tasted like, a real Whopper from Burger King, a real Big Boy hamburger. These outlets catered to the changing mood of this country which is low quality and low cost. KFC never did that. They taste the same as they did 30 years ago. That's why they ended up closing many of their restaurants. Now I fear Mr. Hero is following suit. The Roman Burger doesn't taste the same as it did years ago either, but now they are offering their 10" sandwich for only five bucks.
Fast food worker's are unionized?
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6605 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Nothing I wrote was a lie. The first amendment guarantees the right of people to peaceably assemble. They wrote that in regards to government--not against private businesses. But even if they did, take note of the word "peaceably."
There is nothing peaceful about strikers threatening temporary workers. There is nothing peaceful about throwing rocks at their cars or accosting them as they cross the picket line. There is nothing peaceful about causing a business grief and financial loss. That is threat, not peace.
Speaking of threats, so-called negotiations are threats. What else do you call them? Negotiations is a very nice liberal word meaning threat. It just sounds....... less threatening. Let me explain the difference:
You are selling a car for $15,000. I want to buy the car, but only offer $12,000. We go back and forth until WE BOTH AGREE on a price. That is negotiations. Now if we had the same scenario, and I insist you sell me the car for $12,000 or I take a bat and bash out all the windows and lights causing you financial loss, that is not negotiation, that is threat.
The latter is exactly the way unions operate. If they don't get what they want, they threaten the business with financial loss. The owner(s) of the business have few options. They either give in or take the loss.
I never said it was illegal, but it's theft nonetheless. If you prefer, we can call it legal theft.
The great Walter E Williams made a similar comparison when it comes to healthcare. He said that if he went to his neighbors home, stole money out of his dresser drawer, and gave that money to the elderly lady down the street so she could see a doctor, is that theft or not? Of course it is. He would go to jail. So why is it not theft when Congress or the President does the exact same thing?
See the difference?
You flunked that government class taught by that un-educated nun. didn't you?
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6606 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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With that, I bring you the words of Thomas Jefferson. "Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated."
James Madison rang in on it too. "I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution, that grants Congress the right, of expending on articles of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
While we allow liberals and Democrats to push us further from the roots of our great Constitution, we find ourselves further and further in debt. What is most of our budget these days? Benevolence. Some like to call it the general welfare. Were our founders so insightful that they could see this problem we have today in the future?
So if Congress has no real authority (according to Jefferson and Madison) to take money out of our wallets to pay for Aunt Selma's healthcare, then of course it's theft. If I meet you in a dark alley one night, point my gun at you, and say "This is a taxation, give me all your money!" Is it legal?
Who, exactly, do you think stuck the words "General Welfare" in the constitution?

You want to just ignore those words?

This isn't the Bible. You don't get to pick and choose the parts you get to ignore.
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6607 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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How compassionate is it when you forcibly take money from a person(s) to provide that healthcare?
In my opinion, one of our greatest faults in this country is that the so-called poor have much less stress and have better lives in many ways than the working. They can have as large of a family as they want. Working people can't do that. In the middle of winter, they can keep their heat up to 82 day and night and keep the AC on 60. Many working cannot afford that. They could eat steak and lobster every night of the week if they wish. Working people can't do that. And yes, finally, they have better healthcare (medicaid) than many working families.
Isn't that compassionate enough? People who cannot afford these things for themselves are providing it to other people and their family. You don't see something wrong with our system? Even after all that, by not wanting ObamaCare, we are not compassionate.
You don't know any poor people, do you?

Kramers Attorney

Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#6608 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Who, exactly, do you think stuck the words "General Welfare" in the constitution?
You want to just ignore those words?
This isn't the Bible. You don't get to pick and choose the parts you get to ignore.
The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause. The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."[2][3]

Moreover, the Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.[4][5] Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power,[6][4] but a qualification on the taxing power[7][8][4] which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government.[9][4][10] The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position",[4] as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures.

As such, these clauses in the U.S. Constitution are an atypical use of a general welfare clause, and are not considered grants of a general legislative power to the federal government.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Welfare_...
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6609 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Oh, back to that again? Rush, Fox News, One percenters?
Your charges of others controlling the thoughts of real conservatives are about as old as your charges of racism by the left. Nobody believes it anymore, it's just that you on the left haven't figured that out yet.
You do realize that Roger Ailes, President of Fox News, not only admits to producing his programs with the purpose to manipulate his ignorant viewers but that he openly brags about it?
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6610 Jul 22, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Anything to support your claim here? Welfare people are usually uneducated people who cannot teach themselves yet alone their children. That's why they are on welfare in the first place. You are correct on one thing: no education system is perfect. But we do have better educations systems than others. So why do we keep funding the most failed education systems? Why did Democrats fight to stop School Vouchers in spite of it's success; particularly for minorities? The answer is simple: to promote and protect their campaign contributors, the unions.
School vouchers are nothing more than a GOP program designed to divert tax dollars to their wealthy friends. Do some research on the "success" of Ohio's charter schools.

Kramers Attorney

Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#6611 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You do realize that Roger Ailes, President of Fox News, not only admits to producing his programs with the purpose to manipulate his ignorant viewers but that he openly brags about it?
He's nowhere near as blatant as Brian Ross was on ABC Friday morning.

Kramers Attorney

Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#6612 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You don't know any poor people, do you?
You don't know any middle class people, it would seem.
Che Reagan Christ

Seville, OH

#6613 Jul 22, 2012
Kramers Attorney wrote:
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The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause. The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."[2][3]
Moreover, the Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.[4][5] Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power,[6][4] but a qualification on the taxing power[7][8][4] which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government.[9][4][10] The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position",[4] as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures.
As such, these clauses in the U.S. Constitution are an atypical use of a general welfare clause, and are not considered grants of a general legislative power to the federal government.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Welfare_...
Tell me what Justice Story thought when 4 other justices on his court voted with him and then I will be interested.
Brian Ross

United States

#6614 Jul 22, 2012
Kramers Attorney wrote:
<quoted text>He's nowhere near as blatant as Brian Ross was on ABC Friday morning.
How dare you challenge our double standards by bringing that up.

And don't you dare bring up that Jim Holmes was an occutard now with a court appointed attorney. Don't even bother asking where he got $20,000 worth of hard to get weapons and ammo.
Brian Ross

United States

#6615 Jul 22, 2012
Don't you dare ask if this is Fast and Furious part II.

Don't you dare ask whose interest this aided if this would've been somehow orchestrated.

Kramers Attorney

Since: Apr 12

Hilliard, OH

#6616 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Tell me what Justice Story thought when 4 other justices on his court voted with him and then I will be interested.
I'm simply reminding you that it's official: Obamacare is a tax. The largest tax increase in the history of this planet.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#6617 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Who, exactly, do you think stuck the words "General Welfare" in the constitution?
You want to just ignore those words?
This isn't the Bible. You don't get to pick and choose the parts you get to ignore.
I always understood that you are not very smart, but I think this time you hit a new low. I just explained what our founders meant by the term General Welfare, and you ask me who stuck those two words in there?

You are a fine example of why we should end public school.
xxxrayted

Brook Park, OH

#6618 Jul 22, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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School vouchers are nothing more than a GOP program designed to divert tax dollars to their wealthy friends. Do some research on the "success" of Ohio's charter schools.
It's like talking to a wall. Vouchers are not used specifically for charter schools. Why don't you go on the internet and do some research yourself? You comment on things you know absolutely nothing about.
Loren Eberly

Alexandria, OH

#6619 Jul 22, 2012
Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders:
Before The majority of 53% of US the Government of this Representative Republic that vote and the 47% nonvoters that sit on their dead hands and whine; Successfully elected President, Governor, Representatives of US the Government, County Commissioners, Township Trustees, Mayors, City Council, School Administrators and Board Members.
That believes corporations, farmers, businesses, outsourcer sweatshops, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organizations and Churches, OPEC Nations, Enron Stockholders, Wal-Mart Stockholders, Hillarys, Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders (money marketers) marketing more stock dividends (money) quarterly. In the wholesale and retail price of every product and service Human Beings use for life. And School Boards and Government needs to build, maintain and operate schools, infrastructure, and provide local and national security, and Government services. That gets only product or service has value.
Consumers could buy a state-of-the-art automobile Union Workers manufactured in the USA for about $2,500, buy a gallon of gas for $.20 to $.22, buy a cup of coffee in most restaurants for $.10, and pay for every product and service they use for life with money derived from wages (union contract) investment and independent business profit.
Electing Officials that defies USA Labor Law, The Constitution, and demands of Natural Law: what Mother Nature, God, or Whatever Power decreed to be the reality of the real world, democracy, capitalism, the US Constitution, and free, fair, and affordable commerce and common sense demands.
Demanding every corporation, farmer, business, outsourcer sweatshop, and nonprofit, tax-exempt, organization and Church; markets the cost in the wholesale and retail price of his or her product and service; of every worker, consumer, and taxpayer's wages (union contract), investment and independent business profit. This enables every worker, consumer, and taxpayer to pay healthcare insurance premium or pay healthcare provider. Pay ALL taxes and pay for every product and service they use for life. With money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit. This enables every parent to educate, love, nurse, nurture, discipline, protect, and provide; for every child (job) they conceive. And fund schools, infrastructure, local and national security, government services, and etc.; with money derived from wages, investment profit, and independent business profit.
Defying USA Labor Law, the Constitution, and Realities demands is bankrupting USA. Makes free, fair, and affordable commerce IMPOSSIBLE; Makes funding schools IMPOSSIBLE; Makes balancing every budget IMPOSSIBLE; Makes Union workers, consumers, taxpayers, and Americas grandchildren's children life UNAFFORDABLE; and created Ohio’s $1.35 trillion budget deficit, the $40 trillion social security and the $16 trillion national debt. America’s grandchildren’s children are responsible to pay Chinese, Foreign and Domestic Investors and Stockholders interest with this debt until they are 18 years old. America’s grandchildren’s children cannot afford life and pay this debt with the $7.25 per hour Government mandated labor wage in a hundred million years.
Duke for Mayor

United States

#6620 Jul 22, 2012
Kramers Attorney wrote:
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The United States Constitution contains two references to "the General Welfare", one occurring in the Preamble and the other in the Taxing and Spending Clause. The U.S. Supreme Court has held the mention of the clause in the Preamble to the U.S. Constitution "has never been regarded as the source of any substantive power conferred on the Government of the United States or on any of its Departments."[2][3]
Moreover, the Supreme Court held the understanding of the General Welfare Clause contained in the Taxing and Spending Clause adheres to the construction given it by Associate Justice Joseph Story in his 1833 Commentaries on the Constitution of the United States.[4][5] Justice Story concluded that the General Welfare Clause is not a grant of general legislative power,[6][4] but a qualification on the taxing power[7][8][4] which includes within it a federal power to spend federal revenues on matters of general interest to the federal government.[9][4][10] The Court described Justice Story's view as the "Hamiltonian position",[4] as Alexander Hamilton had elaborated his view of the taxing and spending powers in his 1791 Report on Manufactures.
As such, these clauses in the U.S. Constitution are an atypical use of a general welfare clause, and are not considered grants of a general legislative power to the federal government.[11]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Welfare_...
I think you might be confused.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art1fr...

http://www.law.cornell.edu/anncon/html/art1fr...

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