Molestation charges against teacher shock parents at Duarte element...

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Members of a local school community expressed shock Monday at the child molestation charges brought against a teacher known around the school as an involved and helpful educator.

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Jun 21, 2010
 
Under American justice system, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.

Let's wait for more facts before we throw stones.

Sometimes, underpaid reporters may tilt the story to the wrong perception.
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Jun 21, 2010
 
sevals wrote:
Under American justice system, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Let's wait for more facts before we throw stones.
Sometimes, underpaid reporters may tilt the story to the wrong perception.
Very true, however, we have a society that has an opinion on everything but know nothing. We have a society where hundreds of thousands will show up to a Laker parade and worship athletes instead of pioneers, scientists, inventors, thinkers, freedom fighters. We have a society so quick to judgment, they are like wild animals ready to persecute anybody who breathes wrong.

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If he is in fact guilty, He can look forward to many year's of "special" friends.
Bill

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Jun 22, 2010
 
sevals wrote:
Under American justice system, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Let's wait for more facts before we throw stones.
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ometimes, underpaid reporters may tilt the story to the wrong perception.
You are right about reporters (And most others in the Newspaper industry) being underpaid. If the general public new anything about what is involved in keeping them up to date on what is happening in this world they would amazed at the all the steps involved,the number of people,the odd hours and the dedication. Thank you to the few people who still buy and read newspapers, and no I am NOT a S.G.V. Tribune employee.

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Jun 22, 2010
 
It's a sad situation when a mere accusation from the shadows can warrant an arrest and charges. You don't even have the right to face your accuser.
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Jun 22, 2010
 
So most were surprised that this teacher has had these allegations brought against him, yet in they're previous comments they state how involved he was with students an student affairs at the school.Hmmm.
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Jun 22, 2010
 
To Educated Angeleno: You just summarized the problem precisely: It is a teacher's JOB to be "involved with the students" and it is the sign of a GOOD teacher that they be involved with "student affairs at the school." Had this been a female teacher you would have assumed from these descriptives that she was a hard-working and dedicated educator. But for a male teacher these same attributes automatically indicate a propensity for criminal perversion. If this man is indeed guilty of molesting students, then he should (and will) pay the price in prison. However, your prejudice is all too typical of our society today and as such is it not understandable that so few men actually risk becoming teachers, or for that matter, being involved with children in any way, shape or form? The organizations that serve the needs of children are constantly crying out for more men to be involved in childrens' lives, but what man in their right mind would risk their jobs, families, reputations and freedom to do it???
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Jun 22, 2010
 
Even if he is not guilty of the alleged crimes, his life is completely ruined because many people would always be suspicious of him. On the other hand, if he is guilty, I hope he pays dearly in prison.
What is justice

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sevals wrote:
Under American justice system, a person is presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Let's wait for more facts before we throw stones.
Sometimes, underpaid reporters may tilt the story to the wrong perception.
"Innocent until proven guilty" is not in our constitution, nor is it in our bill of rights. The concept "Innovent until proven guilty in a court of law" come down to us from English common law and it means exactly that. The suspect is to be considered innocent IN THE COURT.- not in all aspects of life.

This teacher was investigated, arrested and charged because our law enforcement and court system found cause to do so. They are our representatives in the justice system. In this way, society does indeed consider this teacher likely to be proven guilty in a court of law. What you erroneously describe as "throwing stones" is our method of protecting the innocent while attempting to arrive at a judgement regarding the matter at hand. If you see this as unfair, perhaps you would like this person to interact with your children. No? I didn't think so.
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Jun 22, 2010
 
unPC wrote:
To Educated Angeleno: You just summarized the problem precisely: It is a teacher's JOB to be "involved with the students" and it is the sign of a GOOD teacher that they be involved with "student affairs at the school." Had this been a female teacher you would have assumed from these descriptives that she was a hard-working and dedicated educator. But for a male teacher these same attributes automatically indicate a propensity for criminal perversion. If this man is indeed guilty of molesting students, then he should (and will) pay the price in prison. However, your prejudice is all too typical of our society today and as such is it not understandable that so few men actually risk becoming teachers, or for that matter, being involved with children in any way, shape or form? The organizations that serve the needs of children are constantly crying out for more men to be involved in childrens' lives, but what man in their right mind would risk their jobs, families, reputations and freedom to do it???
You are absolutely right. Should we look upon those teachers who take on after school tutoring, mentoring, coaching, drama, avid, student body leadership and ect, or only the male teachers' that do it?
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You need to exercise extreme diligence and caution especially when you are working with kids or youths. I have been working with youths for 10 years and I never give or ask for hugs. I'm always cautious and ensure kids get home when they are asked and for female sensitive issues, I have a female leader handle it.
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Lets just hope that if this child or children are accusing this teacher of doing this that it is in fact true statements and they are not making it up. Although, it is true that his life will be ruined no matter what.
About 8-10 years ago a teacher/sport coach was accused of molesting boys in high school where he taught. He was put on unpaid leave from teaching and had been to court a few times. He had spoken to fellow teachers, friends, old teachers of his that became his friends as he grew up, and demanded that he was innocent. Everyone around him knew he would never, ever do this kind of thing. He was a very involved teacher, and enjoyed helping kids in any way he could. But he also felt like no matter what the outcome would be his life was ruined. He would never teach again because of the accusations. He could never do what he loved to do. So, he went in the backyard and shot and killed himself. After the "victim" found out he shot himself he admitted to his parents that he had made the whole story up because he was failing the teachers class and wasn't going to be able to play sports due to his grades. Should that kid get charged for murder? I think so, however he walked because he was a minor.
Hence the saying "Innocent until proven guilty".
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i was there shortly after he started teaching there, he was my student council teacher and i would never imagine something like this happening. i was very close with him and his family. I just hope that whatever the outcome may be, that his wife and children or ok.
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hang'em high!
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Jun 22, 2010
 
beardslee really needs to wakeup and evaluate there teachers.i am not sending my child to that school next year no matter what the cost may be better safe than sorry and i just dont feel safety comes first at beardslee elementary or better yet D.U.S.D........
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Jun 22, 2010
 
Well I think this is all bullshit! None of u should be talking if u donT kno!! I went to beardslee for my whole elementry career and never once did I notice anything wierd about him! Oh and of course did u know that the girl who brought all of this up is a crazy little girl?? She needs help. I bet none of u knew she cut herself and changes "boyfriends" like they were disposible!!! And the law is bullshit!! Innocent until proven guilty? Not even once the jury knows that this is a sexual abuse case he's automatically guilty just because he is a male. Not only that but if it were true which I HIGHLY doubt that has nothing to do with the school or the district!!!! Gosh some people can be so ignorant!!!!!
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Well I think this is all ****! None of u should be talking if u donT kno!! I went to beardslee for my whole elementry career and never once did I notice anything wierd about him! Oh and of course did u know that the girl who brought all of this up is a crazy little girl?? She needs help. I bet none of u knew she cut herself and changes "boyfriends" like they were disposible!!! And the law is ****!! Innocent until proven guilty? Not even once the jury knows that this is a sexual abuse case he's automatically guilty just because he is a male. Not only that but if it were true which I HIGHLY doubt that has nothing to do with the school or the district!!!! Gosh some people can be so ignorant!!!!!
its the school and districts fault .you live in san jose and not in duarte thats why you are not aware of the other problems the school has had this year like perverts taking pictures of kids from the gates of the school and a attempt kidnaping of a little girl too many crimes taking place at one school in one year and i also attended duarte schools from preschool till i graduated from d.h.s beardslee was a safe place when i was a student there but the schools are a reflection of there city and well i guess that kind of says it all...
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concerned parent wrote:
<quoted text>its the school and districts fault .you live in san jose and not in duarte thats why you are not aware of the other problems the school has had this year like perverts taking pictures of kids from the gates of the school and a attempt kidnaping of a little girl too many crimes taking place at one school in one year and i also attended duarte schools from preschool till i graduated from d.h.s
beardslee was a safe place when i was a
student there but the schools are a reflection of there city and well i guess that kind of says it all...
no actually I do live in duarte and I am aware of the problems that have occured. But what makes u think it's the districts fault? Did they tell them to come take those pictures?? NO but what they did do was approach the problem in a good way and tried solving it. And again that has NOTHING to do with these charges!! U can go ahead and send your kids to a private school but hey what makes u think they'll be safe there?do u know about all the cases with church officials and sexual abuse? So basically just because u spend your money it doesn't mean your kids are going to be safe. And about the city? If u hate it so much get the *uck out of it!!!!!!

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concerned parent wrote:
beardslee really needs to wakeup and evaluate there teachers.i am not sending my child to that school next year no matter what the cost may be better safe than sorry and i just dont feel safety comes first at beardslee elementary or better yet D.U.S.D........
Why? Just, because some anti-social kid made an accusation? I remember threatening to call Child Protective Services on my parents, because they spanked me. An accusation of physical abuse would've ruined both them and me. Kids make accusations. Because, they can.
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Jun 23, 2010
 
unPC wrote:
To Educated Angeleno: You just summarized the problem precisely: It is a teacher's JOB to be "involved with the students" and it is the sign of a GOOD teacher that they be involved with "student affairs at the school." Had this been a female teacher you would have assumed from these descriptives that she was a hard-working and dedicated educator. But for a male teacher these same attributes automatically indicate a propensity for criminal perversion. If this man is indeed guilty of molesting students, then he should (and will) pay the price in prison. However, your prejudice is all too typical of our society today and as such is it not understandable that so few men actually risk becoming teachers, or for that matter, being involved with children in any way, shape or form? The organizations that serve the needs of children are constantly crying out for more men to be involved in childrens' lives, but what man in their right mind would risk their jobs, families, reputations and freedom to do it???
Well thank you for the insight.I happen to be an educator here in Los Angeles for over 20 years,and I am a male.In today's litigous society,there are boundries you do not cross wether or not there was good intention.I am very good at what I do which can be supported by the many awards and accolades I have recieved over the years.However, I am careful what I say to students and not once in the 23 years I have been teaching have I have never touched a child,male or female, other than a handshake.

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